Let's create a language!

[BokaBB]

C sound is a combination of ts sounds pronounced quickly. Test and see doed it sounds like c.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Can you give an example word in the language with c please?

[BokaBB]

Don't know if I wrote any so far,but there are some new.
Cem - mushroom
Cak-death
Cakeo- to die
And more other:
Ten - writing,inscription
Tenut - book
Tene- pen,pencil,anything used for writing
Napme - God
Rat-fear
-rat - a scary version of something
Beo - good
Ven - evil
-beo - indicates that the thing is good
- ven - indicates that the thing is evil
Gao - plant
Gaomi - green colour
-mi - colour suffix
Rigemi - yellow
Tene - fire
Teneo - to burn
Tenemi - red
Tenepmi- orange colour
Tenep - orange
Elok - sky
Elokmi - blue
Nage - Vine (plant)
Nag - vine (drink)
Nagmi - purple,violet,pink
Hol - snow
Holmi - white
Zem - night
Zemi - black
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[PC101]

Cem - mushroom
Cak-death

Cakcem - deadly mushroom

[BokaBB]

Cem - mushroom
Cak-death

Cakcem - deadly mushroom

We need to make concensus when we use preffixes and when suffixes.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

We have to make a list of suffixes. We can't just create suffixes for any meaning we want as we go along. There is a difference between a suffix and a compound word, too. Also, we shouldn't always put words together to make new words. That's not how most languages work. Some word might be meaning-wise the combination of two or more words, but usually it's an entirely different word and not simply a combination of the others.

[BokaBB]

We have to make a list of suffixes. We can't just create suffixes for any meaning we want as we go along. There is a difference between a suffix and a compound word, too. Also, we shouldn't always put words together to make new words. That's not how most languages work. Some word might be meaning-wise the combination of two or more words, but usually it's an entirely different word and not simply a combination of the others.

I think we need more participants that can help.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Okay good idea but who? Saka and Moosey can probably help but we need more people.

[BokaBB]

Okay good idea but who? Saka and Moosey can probably help but we need more people.

Ask a few random people about that. But stop efforts if they are not interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

Okay good idea but who? Saka and Moosey can probably help but we need more people.

Ask a few random people about that. But stop efforts if they are not interested.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

Yes I certainly don't want to force people to do it and if they don't want to they wouldn't do a good job either. Should we send a PM to them? Please specify "them", I want to recruit good people.

[yujh]

This is only a place for my language.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

This is only a place for my language.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

What?

[yujh]

This is only a place for my language.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

What?

What what?

[Schiaparelliorbust]

What?

What what?

Why did you just quote someone and not write anything else?

[BokaBB]

What?

What what?

Why did you just quote someone and not write anything else?

Ask a few people who seem intelligent and not have much jobs. If they once reject, don't even attempt second time with them. You can also ask few randoms and hope they are interested.
No, moderators,I am not equipping a terrorist organization.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

I don't see what's wrong with asking moderators. We could send PMs to people and I can also make my signature explaining the project and asking people to come and help.

Edit: Add something to the language. This page doesn't have much about it.

[yujh]

What?

What what?

Why did you just quote someone and not write anything else?

I mean I don’t want to see anything like this anymore from bokabb

[BokaBB]

I will add few until the end of this day.
yujh, can you contribute some vocabulary?
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Schiaparelliorbust]

table = sama
chair = dansa
bowl = sinef
spoon = yore
fork = polit
knife = karsh
plate = serme
cup = revai

I changed my signature as I said I would do.

[BokaBB]

table = sama
chair = dansa
bowl = sinef
spoon = yore
fork = polit
knife = karsh
plate = serme
cup = revai

I changed my signature as I said I would do.

Thanks.
Omu-water
Omut-Juice,drink,liquid
Omeo- to flow
Nag- food, breakfast, lunch,dinner
Nage- cutlery
Nageo- to eat
Dek - wheat
Og- bread
Dekog- wheat bread
Dek- - preffix for something made of wheat (alternatives can be easily made)
Son- air,gas
Sone - lungs
Soneo- to be gas - like,to expand
Fun - sweet taste, anything good tasting
Fune - fruit
Gon - acidic taste
Gone - acid,stomach
Goneo - to throw up (food from the stomach when you are sick)
Mer - hot,peppery taste, anything that tastes bad
Mere - pepper,any spice
Os - salty taste
Ose - salt
Ret - head
Suret - cap
Su- - a protection or a cover for
Emeral - eyes
Emeo - to see
Deme- picture
Suemeral - glasses
De or e- - something you sense with
Naeral - ears
Naeo - to listen
Denae- sound
It - nose
Iteo - to smell
Deite - smell
Born - arm
Mil - hand
Sumil - glove
Seg - finger,thumb,toe
Segeo- to touch
Anet - body
Suanet - jacket,jumper,shirt,T - shirt
Olt - leg
Suolt- pants
Mis - goot
Sumis - shoe
Also, imperative is same as infinitive.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Saka]

I'll say this again. We need to clearly define all of the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics.
What does the glpyh "c" represent? Is it the voiceless palatal plosive, /c/? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant affricate, /tʃ/, or the voiceless alveolar sibilant affricate, /ts/? What does "sh" represent? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant, /ʃ/, or an aspirated unvoiced sibilant fricative, /sʰ/?

And phonotactics, what consonant clusters should be allowed? I suppose we don't want words that are really hard to pronounce for most people like /ʁʒjənˈʁlwej/.

Also, in the case of "deadly mushroom" we have not even defined adjective order so we don't know if it's "cakcem" or "cemcak". One of them will roughly mean "mushroom of death" and the other "death of a mushroom".

Here's a chart if you want to fill it out. I'm too lazy right now to put all the words so far, so put them in yourselves.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LvRLsb ... sp=sharing

I will not contribute vocabulary until we clearly define the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics of this language.

[BokaBB]

I'll say this again. We need to clearly define all of the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics.
What does the glpyh "c" represent? Is it the voiceless palatal plosive, /c/? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant affricate, /tʃ/, or the voiceless alveolar sibilant affricate, /ts/? What does "sh" represent? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant, /ʃ/, or an aspirated unvoiced sibilant fricative, /sʰ/?

And phonotactics, what consonant clusters should be allowed? I suppose we don't want words that are really hard to pronounce for most people like /ʁʒjənˈʁlwej/.

Also, in the case of "deadly mushroom" we have not even defined adjective order so we don't know if it's "cakcem" or "cemcak". One of them will roughly mean "mushroom of death" and the other "death of a mushroom".

Here's a chart if you want to fill it out. I'm too lazy right now to put all the words so far, so put them in yourselves.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LvRLsb ... sp=sharing

I will not contribute vocabulary until we clearly define the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics of this language.

Phonology is clear from one my previous comment plus ch.
Orthography too since I said.
Just phonotactics....
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[BokaBB]

I'll say this again. We need to clearly define all of the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics.
What does the glpyh "c" represent? Is it the voiceless palatal plosive, /c/? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant affricate, /tʃ/, or the voiceless alveolar sibilant affricate, /ts/? What does "sh" represent? The voiceless postalveolar sibilant, /ʃ/, or an aspirated unvoiced sibilant fricative, /sʰ/?

And phonotactics, what consonant clusters should be allowed? I suppose we don't want words that are really hard to pronounce for most people like /ʁʒjənˈʁlwej/.

Also, in the case of "deadly mushroom" we have not even defined adjective order so we don't know if it's "cakcem" or "cemcak". One of them will roughly mean "mushroom of death" and the other "death of a mushroom".

Here's a chart if you want to fill it out. I'm too lazy right now to put all the words so far, so put them in yourselves.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1LvRLsb ... sp=sharing

I will not contribute vocabulary until we clearly define the phonology, orthography, and phonotactics of this language.

Double - posting to make you notice this.
Also,we removed w and replaced with w.
You can help with phonotactics if you desire. Anyone can participate. I am indeed contributing myself this time.
Also,we also have ch.
Have a good day!

BokaBB

[Saka]

C and sh should be Ц and Ш in Serbian,not 100% sure what IPA sounds exactly they are,but I think it is partially clear.
Phonology is clear from one my previous comment plus ch.
Orthography too.
Just phonotactics....
Have a good day!

BokaBB

My google machine says that <Ц> represents the sound /ts/, and <Ш> represents /ʂ/. That second sound is pretty rare cross-linguistically, so I propose we change it to /ʃ/ or just eliminate it altogether.

I found this post by you:
viewtopic.php?p=106182#p106182
And I would just like to say that using examples in English is a terrible idea. There are so many dialects and accents and variations that you can never be sure. This is why we use the IPA, so everyone is clear about what a certain sound is.
Like this:

E:as e in elephant

There are 2 letter "e"s in the word "elephant" and both are pronounced differently. For me, the first one is [ɛ] and the second one is [ə].
This post is also a direct contradiction with "sh should be Ш in Serbian", although I suppose allophony is Ok...
Even more problematic is

A:as a in a(article)

It can be pronounced [ə], [ɜ], and [eɪ]

Grammar and word order is still unclear as well.

I have edited the chart to include my guessing of the phonology and the orthography. I am still unsure about the vowels represented by the letters "e" and "a".

What about having the letter "j" represent the sound /j/, so it fits the IPA? I also suggest changing "sh", and "zh" to "sy" ,and "zy" (or "sj" and "zj" if we do replace "y" with "j")

[BokaBB]

C and sh should be Ц and Ш in Serbian,not 100% sure what IPA sounds exactly they are,but I think it is partially clear.
Phonology is clear from one my previous comment plus ch.
Orthography too.
Just phonotactics....
Have a good day!

BokaBB

My google machine says that <Ц> represents the sound /ts/, and <Ш> represents /ʂ/. That second sound is pretty rare cross-linguistically, so I propose we change it to /ʃ/ or just eliminate it altogether.

I found this post by you:
viewtopic.php?p=106182#p106182
And I would just like to say that using examples in English is a terrible idea. There are so many dialects and accents and variations that you can never be sure. This is why we use the IPA, so everyone is clear about what a certain sound is.
Like this:

E:as e in elephant

There are 2 letter "e"s in the word "elephant" and both are pronounced differently. For me, the first one is [ɛ] and the second one is [ə].
This post is also a direct contradiction with "sh should be Ш in Serbian", although I suppose allophony is Ok...
Even more problematic is

A:as a in a(article)

It can be pronounced [ə], [ɜ], and [eɪ]

Grammar and word order is still unclear as well.

I have edited the chart to include my guessing of the phonology and the orthography. I am still unsure about the vowels represented by the letters "e" and "a".

What about having the letter "j" represent the sound /j/, so it fits the IPA? I also suggest changing "sh", and "zh" to "sy" ,and "zy" (or "sj" and "zj" if we do replace "y" with "j")

Sh maybe can be the sound you want,while A will be IPA a and E IPA e.
Pv will be allowed from the phonotactics,you decide the rest and oversee what clusters were used.
I think it looks the best with h and y.
I again repeat we Serbs have no sounds that are similar to any high degree and I don't distinguish them well.
This makes this project harder.
Maybe we can make both variants sounds for sh legal?
Please be active.
Have a good day!

BokaBB