New methuselahs
New methuselahs
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Re: New methuselahs
4218-gen:
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x = 31, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$16bo$16bo18$o$o28bo$o27bo$28bo$28b3o!
Re: New methuselahs
Would above 40k be notable? (I don't have one, just asking) [Not for it's own thread] {batteries not included}Kiran wrote:Not notable
Re: New methuselahs
How was that 40k made anyway? I want to see if I can top it off with a few more generations at most
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
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Re: New methuselahs
It was made from a 15-cell methuselah found by Richard Wobus, presumably found by the Online Life-Like CA Soup Search:muzik wrote:How was that 40k made anyway? I want to see if I can top it off with a few more generations at most
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3o20$3bo$3bo$3bo5$20b3o$9b3o10bo$22bo$21bo!
Despite being the longest lived notable methuselah, 40514M has too large a bounding box to be considered as good a methuselah as the 15-cell one, or Lidka.
Re: New methuselahs
Someone should probably invent some sort of measurement, involving the amount of generations for stabilisation compared to the bounding box.gameoflifeboy wrote:Despite being the longest lived notable methuselah, 40514M has too large a bounding box to be considered as good a methuselah as the 15-cell one, or Lidka.muzik wrote:How was that 40k made anyway? I want to see if I can top it off with a few more generations at most
Help wanted: How can we accurately notate any 1D replicator?
Re: New methuselahs
Oh, please don't! Check out the last three columns in the table in Kiran's link --muzik wrote:Someone should probably invent some sort of measurement, involving the amount of generations for stabilisation compared to the bounding box.
People have been inventing methuselah metrics for forty-six years now, including Gustavo last year who added "escapeability" to an already very overcrowded field.Kiran wrote:Not notable
As a rough approximation, no two Life enthusiasts will be interested in exactly the same methuselah metric, and all metrics about equally arbitrary (or seem that way to somebody).
The best methuselah according to one metric will be different from the best according to another metric... there are so many different "best" methuselahs that none of them end up being really notable.
Basically, in the absence of a large prize for The Methuselah With The Highest Value Of Some Particular Metric, my experience has been that methuselah metrics are pretty much useless, except for causing arbitrary disagreements...!
Re: New methuselahs
12677-gen:
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x = 128, y = 170, rule = B3/S23
125b2o$127bo$127bo$127bo44$35bo$35b2o107$bo$2bo$2bo$3o9$16bo$16bo$16bo
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Re: New methuselahs
@fsrm, did you follow Kiran's Not notable link?fsrm wrote:12677-gen...]
The pattern you posted starts with 17 ON cells in a 128x170 bounding box.
With 11 ON cells in a 6x4 bounding box, you can get a methuselah that lasts about 5000 ticks longer than your 17-cell one.
That means that it's possible to write a script that could randomly generate millions (at least) of different methuselahs that start with less than 17 cells and last longer than 12,677 generations.
But it's not clear that any of those millions of methuselahs would be worth drawing any special attention to, really. What would you say is interesting about the one you posted?
Re: New methuselahs
I was about to post this (copied from one of your posts), you beat me to it:
This was found in 1997:
This was found in 1997:
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#C 14321M -- Nick Gotts, 3 November 1997
x = 34, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
31b3o$30bo$30bo3$3o!
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