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Posted: **October 5th, 2015, 8:36 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:The following script should put a gun where the selection box topleft is, but the gun seems to appear at a random position!

You're almost there. You just need

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    g.putcells([cell_list], gpos[0], gpos[1])

and you'll be all set. Index numbers start with zero instead of one -- it takes a little getting used to. Looks like a good first script!

... That's an impressively silly-looking p46 gun, though. Just the one gun in the upper right could produce the same stream of gliders. What is all the rest of it for? It looks familiar somehow.

Gustavo6046 wrote:also, {four gliders hit a boat and eventually make another boat in a different location with a different orientation}

What about it? Why is this reaction worth drawing anyone else's attention to?

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 7:57 am**

dvgrn wrote:... That's an impressively silly-looking p46 gun, though. Just the one gun in the upper right could produce the same stream of gliders. What is all the rest of it for? It looks familiar somehow.

Vacuum gun! Though I wish the script could adjust the period of a gun with the help of snarks...

dvgrn wrote:[...] You just need
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    g.putcells([cell_list], gpos[0], gpos[1])
and you'll be all set. Index numbers start with zero instead of one -- it takes a little getting used to. Looks like a good first script!

Thanks. I have experience from UnrealScript so this should be no surprise.
Also, how much should I offset the gun so that the output line up with the selected glider?

This is the current code. Rotate will misalign the output and the input!

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import golly as g

rot = int(g.getstring('How many times to rotate 90 degrees clockwise from southeast direction? Inputting a non-number character will result in error!'))

def positionGun():
    if len(g.getselrect()) == 0:
        nos()

    elif rot < 0:
        nos2()

    else:
        placeGun(g.getselrect())

def placeGun(gpos):
    g.putcells([-92, -60, -91, -60, -67, -60, -66, -60, -92, -59, -91, -59, -67, -59, -69, -58, -67, -58, -69, -57, -68, -57, -93, -56, -92, -56, -84, -56, -83, -56, -93, -55, -92, -55, -85, -55, -84, -55, -84, -54, -83, -54, -82, -54, -81, -54, -80, -54, -83, -53, -82, -53, -81, -53, -80, -53, -70, -53, -69, -53, -69, -52, -49, -52, -48, -52, -83, -51, -82, -51, -81, -51, -80, -51, -71, -51, -70, -51, -69, -51, -49, -51, -48, -51, -84, -50, -83, -50, -82, -50, -81, -50, -80, -50, -93, -49, -92, -49, -85, -49, -84, -49, -72, -49, -61, -49, -60, -49, -59, -49, -93, -48, -92, -48, -84, -48, -83, -48, -74, -48, -73, -48, -71, -48, -67, -48, -66, -48, -63, -48, -58, -48, -48, -48, -47, -48, -73, -47, -71, -47, -63, -47, -57, -47, -48, -47, -47, -47, -72, -46, -68, -46, -67, -46, -66, -46, -58, -46, -92, -45, -91, -45, -68, -45, -60, -45, -59, -45, -92, -44, -91, -44, -70, -43, -69, -43, -60, -43, -59, -43, -71, -42, -70, -42, -69, -42, -68, -42, -67, -42, -58, -42, -71, -41, -68, -41, -63, -41, -57, -41, -48, -41, -47, -41, -71, -40, -68, -40, -63, -40, -58, -40, -48, -40, -47, -40, -70, -39, -69, -39, -61, -39, -60, -39, -59, -39, -49, -37, -48, -37, -49, -36, -48, -36, -61, -31, -57, -31, -62, -30, -56, -30, -46, -30, -45, -30, -62, -29, -46, -29, -45, -29, -62, -28, -61, -28, -57, -28, -60, -27, -59, -27, -58, -27, -60, -25, -59, -25, -58, -25, -51, -25, -49, -25, -48, -25, -62, -24, -61, -24, -57, -24, -51, -24, -49, -24, -47, -24, -62, -23, -52, -23, -47, -23, -62, -22, -56, -22, -51, -22, -49, -22, -47, -22, -77, -21, -76, -21, -61, -21, -57, -21, -51, -21, -49, -21, -48, -21, -78, -20, -76, -20, -78, -19, -79, -18, -78, -18, -69, -18, -67, -18, -63, -18, -61, -18, -68, -17, -67, -17, -62, -17, -61, -17, -68, -16, -62, -16, -57, -7, -51, -7, -56, -6, -55, -6, -50, -6, -49, -6, -57, -5, -56, -5, -51, -5, -50, -5, -46, 5, -44, 5, -40, 5, -38, 5, -45, 6, -44, 6, -39, 6, -38, 6, -45, 7, -39, 7, -60, 16, -59, 16, -34, 16, -28, 16, -60, 17, -59, 17, -33, 17, -32, 17, -27, 17, -26, 17, -78, 18, -77, 18, -71, 18, -70, 18, -54, 18, -53, 18, -52, 18, -34, 18, -33, 18, -28, 18, -27, 18, -82, 19, -81, 19, -78, 19, -77, 19, -71, 19, -70, 19, -67, 19, -66, 19, -55, 19, -51, 19, -82, 20, -81, 20, -67, 20, -66, 20, -55, 20, -54, 20, -52, 20, -51, 20, -36, 20, -36, 21, -35, 21, -55, 22, -54, 22, -52, 22, -51, 22, -37, 22, -35, 22, -53, 23, -36, 26, -60, 27, -52, 27, -36, 27, -35, 27, -77, 28, -71, 28, -61, 28, -58, 28, -54, 28, -51, 28, -37, 28, -35, 28, -17, 28, -15, 28, -78, 29, -76, 29, -72, 29, -70, 29, -57, 29, -55, 29, -16, 29, -15, 29, -79, 30, -75, 30, -73, 30, -69, 30, -57, 30, -55, 30, -16, 30, -79, 31, -75, 31, -73, 31, -69, 31, -57, 31, -55, 31, -79, 32, -69, 32, -61, 32, -58, 32, -54, 32, -51, 32, -48, 32, -47, 32, -60, 33, -59, 33, -58, 33, -54, 33, -53, 33, -52, 33, -47, 33, -46, 33, -78, 34, -77, 34, -71, 34, -70, 34, -48, 34, -90, 37, -78, 37, -76, 37, -90, 38, -89, 38, -88, 38, -78, 38, -76, 38, -72, 38, -48, 38, -47, 38, -87, 39, -76, 39, -75, 39, -72, 39, -71, 39, -70, 39, -47, 39, -46, 39, -88, 40, -87, 40, -83, 40, -82, 40, -81, 40, -73, 40, -72, 40, -69, 40, -48, 40, -83, 41, -81, 41, -73, 41, -72, 41, -69, 41, -81, 42, -78, 42, -77, 42, -72, 42, -71, 42, -70, 42, -79, 43, -76, 43, -78, 44, -77, 44, -78, 45, -51, 47, -50, 47, -51, 48, -50, 49, -49, 49, -48, 49, -48, 50, -84, 51, -83, 51, -81, 51, -80, 51, -84, 52, -83, 52, -81, 52, -80, 52, -84, 53, -83, 53, -81, 53, -80, 53, -86, 54, -84, 54, -83, 54, -81, 54, -80, 54, -78, 54, -86, 55, -85, 55, -84, 55, -80, 55, -79, 55, -78, 55, -85, 56, -79, 56, -90, 62, -89, 62, -75, 62, -74, 62, -90, 63, -89, 63, -86, 63, -85, 63, -79, 63, -78, 63, -75, 63, -74, 63, -86, 64, -85, 64, -79, 64, -78, 64], gpos[0] + 17, gpos[1] - 28)
    g.select([gpos[0] - 76, gpos[1] - 89, 79, 126])
    arot = rot
    while arot>0:
        g.rotate(1)
        arot -= 1

def nos():
    g.show("Select a glider first!")

def nos2():
    g.show("Rotation is invalid! Type 3 for 90-degree counterclockwise.")

positionGun()

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 9:39 am**

This is an useful gun?

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x = 225, y = 207, rule = LifeHistory
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B2A2B$197.2A!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 12:55 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:This is an useful gun?

No. It's an awesome gun in its way, fun to watch. You've created a pi-heptomino by crashing two gliders together from two separate guns. Two gliders is the minimum recipe if you have to build a pi out of nothing but gliders, so you're doing well there.

It's certainly not useful, though: no one will ever take this gun and use it in a larger pattern (except maybe just to prove me wrong)... because the gun is way too big already.

The only likely useful thing about it is that the output circuit is transparent -- a gun like this could be used in a merge circuit, to do some kind of computation. However, the pattern could use a lot of cutting down with Occam's Razor, so to speak.

You could throw out one of the guns, delete the whole pi-to-century-to-Herschel-to-glider mechanism, move the pieces around a little and maybe add a Snark, or use an edge-shooter instead of the remaining gun.

You'd end up with a pattern that does exactly the same thing, but is much smaller and simpler. Simpler is generally better, if you want "useful". But even then the gun won't be a new discovery in any way. People have known for over fifteen years now how to use that H-to-G to make merge circuits.

Your LWSS->G would be a legitimate new-record useful discovery, if you spent a few minutes to finish it, but I don't seem to be able to get your attention about that.

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 1:18 pm**

LWSS-to-G:
I want to proudly present you... Get Prepared because here it comes!!!

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x = 187, y = 181, rule = LifeHistory

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19.2A3BA3.2B3.18B$116.3A17.2AB.3B.24B$119.A17.B3.2B.22B$45.A.2A51.A

17.2A20.25B$45.2A.A19.A29.3A17.4B17.26B$66.3A28.A22.3B15.28B$40.A2.5A

17.A25.2B4.2A20.4B14.29B$27.2A9.3A2.A4.A2.2A6.2B4.2A24.8B3.B16.5B12.

4B2.24B$26.B2A2B6.A7.BAB.A2.A6.8B3.B19.7B4.4B13.6B11.4B.24B.B2A$27.4B

6.2A6.B2A.A.A6.7B4.4B17.9B.6B12.8B2.36B.BA.A$28.4B2.5B4.A4B.A.2A5.9B.

6B15.10B.6B11.14BD11B2A18B5.A$27.10B5.ABAB3.A7.10B.6B14.19B11.13B3D9B

2A17B6.2A$27.12B3.A2BA2.2A6.19B14.19B11.7B.4BDBD29B$28.12B.2B2A12.19B

15.17B10.15BD19B3D7B2A$27.16B16.17B16.15B11.19B2.2B2.11BD4B3.A2BA2.2A

$26.17B17.15B17.17B8.17B10.10B3D2B3.ABAB3.A$26.17B17.17B13.22B2.2B.

15B12.6B2.6B5.A4B.A.2A$27.18B13.22B2.2B3.21BD22B15.4B.7B7.B2A.A.A$26.

22B2.2B3.21BD24B.4BDBD13B.8B19.8B7.BAB.A2.A$27.17BD24B.4BDBD23B2.4B3D

9B2A2B3.8B16.8B6.A4.A2.2A$27.15BDBD23B2.4B3D23B2.4BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A16.

8B6.5A$28.14B3D23B2.4BD24B4.18B10.A15.2AB2.6B$28.14BD24B4.29B10.4B.3B

.B12.3A11.A.AB.7B7.2A.A$27.41B10.4B.16B12.3B20.A11.A4.6B8.A.2A$28.17B

.4B.16B12.3B5.12B13.4B29.2A4.6B$28.17B2.3B5.12B13.4B6.9B15.2A28.A6.6B

$30.17B.4B6.9B15.2A5.11B14.A29.3A3.8B$30.17B3.2A5.11B14.A5.2AB.7B16.

3A29.A2.8B5.B$30.17B3.A5.2AB.7B16.3A.A.AB2.4B20.A28.2AB.8B4.3B$29.18B

4.3A.A.AB2.4B20.A.A5.2B2AB48.13B3.5B$29.17B7.A.A5.2B2AB20.2A7.2A51.

11B2.8B$25.A4.9B2A5B8.2A7.2A82.22B$25.3A4.7B2A3B101.23B$28.A.13B102.

23B$27.A.A6B.6B101.2A22B$27.BA2B.4B.7B100.2A22B$28.2B3.4B.6B101.B.19B

.B2A$29.2B3.9B104.19B.BA.A$28.B2AB3.8B105.B3.B.10B6.A$29.2A5.8B112.

10B4.2A$37.7B113.10B$38.6B7.2A101.14B$38.2B3D2B6.A20.2A79.14B$38.2BD

4B3.BA.A20.A71.2A7.14B$38.B3D4B2.B2A18.BA.A70.A2.A2.2A2.13B$38.11B20.

B2A72.2A2.A.A2.B3D7B$38.11B18.3B76.2A.B3.2BD4B.2B$38.11B17.4B76.A2.2B

2.2B3D2B$39.11B15.4B74.2A.A.BA2B.6B$39.2B.7B15.4B75.A.2A.A.A8B$38.11B

14.4B80.A.A.8B$38.10B14.4B78.2A2.A4.5B$36.12B13.4B77.3A.2A4.6B$34.13B

13.4B77.A4.B6.6B$33.17B9.4B79.3AB2AB3.7B$33.18B7.4B82.A.2AB.8B$31.2AB

.13B2A2B5.4B87.10B$30.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB5.4B88.6B2A3B$30.A8.B4.8B3.4B89.

6B2A2B5.2A$29.2A15.6B2.4B90.10B5.A$45.7B.4B90.11B2.BA.A$45.6B.4B91.

12B.B2A$46.9B91.15B$46.8B91.16B$45.8B89.2B.16B$36.A8.7B89.2A18B$36.3A

6.6B90.2AB.17B$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B91.B.4B.8B2.4B$33.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B98.7B

4.4B$34.A3.4B.4B3DB99.6B5.4B$40.11B101.4B6.4B$32.5A2.12B103.3BA5.4B$

31.A4.A2.12B104.BA.A5.4B$27.2A.A.BAB4.11B106.A.A6.4B$27.2A.A.2AB5.7B

10.2A98.A8.4B$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A100.3A6.4B$27.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A102.A

7.4B10.2A$27.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A112.4B9.A$35.2A18B115.4B10.A$37.18B

109.2A5.4B5.5A$37.18B110.A5.4B4.A$37.17B111.A.AB.7B2.B3A$37.14B115.2A

B.7B3.2B.A$39.12B117.12B4A$40.3B.7B117.7B2A3BAB2.2A$43.5BA4B115.7B2A

2B.B3A2.A$D2BD43BABA5B113.10B3.B.A.2A$.3BD42B2A6B112.8B8.A$D3BD49B2A

38.2A70.9B7.2A$.4D47B.B2A39.A69.4B2.3B$.51B2.B40.A.AB65.4B3.5B$42.10B

44.2A2B63.4B7.2A$42.9B46.4B61.4B8.A$43.6B49.4B59.2D2B10.3A$43.6B50.4B

57.DBDB13.A$45.4B51.4B23.2E30.3BD$46.3BD51.4B22.E30.4B$47.3BD51.4B18.

BE.E29.4B$48.3DB31.E19.4B14.2E.BCE29.4B$49.4B4.E9.E15.3E12.B.3B.4B12.

B2C2B30.4B$50.4B3.3E5.3E18.E10.18B6.4B29.4B$51.4B5.E3.E20.EC3.B5.2B2C

16B3.6B28.4B$52.4B3.EC.B.CE19.8B3.2B2C16B2.6B28.4B$53.4B2.7B21.8B.20B

.7B27.4B$54.4B3.3B23.38B25.4B$55.4B.5B21.15B.2B2.20B23.4B$56.9B19.17B

8.18B21.4B$57.9B6.2B3.2B2.19B11.16B20.4B$58.42B12.14B20.4B$59.32B.7B

12.16B18.4B$59.14B2C25B11.14B.BCE15.4B$57.16B2C26B8.ECB.3B3.6B.BE.E

13.4B$57.4B2C27B2.8B8.E.EB7.6B4.E12.4B$56.4BC2BC7B.2B.3B.4B11.6B8.E9.

7B4.2E10.4B$55.ECB2.B2C2B.B.4B6.4B12.5B8.2E4.2E2.8B15.4B$54.E.EB2.5B

4.4B4.4B14.4B13.E.E12B12.4B$54.E6.2B7.4B2.4B15.3B14.E3.11B11.4B$53.2E

6.4B6.8B17.4B11.2E3.4B2C5B10.4B$63.CE7.6B20.CE17.3B2C5B9.4B$63.E9.4B

21.E18.10B8.4B$64.3E5.6B21.3E16.9B7.4B$66.E4.8B22.E16.9B6.4B$70.4B2.

4B38.8B6.4B$69.4B4.4B38.8B4.4B$68.4B6.4B38.6B4.4B$67.4B8.4B37.6B3.4B$

66.4B10.4B36.6B2.4B$65.4B12.4B34.7B.4B$64.4B14.4B33.6B.4B$63.4B16.4B

33.9B$62.4B18.4B32.8B$61.4B20.4B30.8B$60.4B22.4B20.E8.7B$59.4B24.4B

19.3E6.6B$58.4B26.4B21.E4.7B$57.4B28.4B19.EC4.7B$56.4B30.4B18.4B.8B$

55.4B32.4B19.11B$54.4B34.4B17.12B$53.4B36.4B16.12B$52.4B38.4B15.11B$

51.4B40.4B13.9B$50.4B42.4B9.2B.10B$49.4B44.4B7.16B.B4.3B$48.4B46.4B3.

28B$47.4B48.33BCE$46.4B50.32BCE$45.4B52.30B.B$44.4B54.29B$43.4B57.25B

$42.4B59.17B5.B$41.4B60.14B$40.4B61.14B$39.4B66.3B4.2B$38.4B68.B6.2B$

37.4B75.B2CB$36.4B77.2E$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.

4B$27.4B$26.4B$25.4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.BD2B$17.

2D2B$18.2D!

and can still be optimizated!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 2:01 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:LWSS-to-G:
I want to proudly present you... Get Prepared because here it comes!!!
...
and can still be optimizated!

Heh, you can say that again. It works great, and is ready to accept another LWSS after 1652 ticks. And you found a block that could cleanly suppress the extra loaf. So you got through the first two steps of the walkthrough. Good, that didn't take you very long at all.

Steps 3 and 4 you seem to have ignored completely. Time for the Optimization Game.

A Silver reflector is kind of big and slow, so not exactly the best choice for a G-to-H. And you used a syringe a little later anyway. Why not just use a syringe right away, and save a lot of time and space? Or maybe a Snark or two first, to get the glider to a good place, but you might not need that.

Try following the link at the end of the walkthrough:

dvgrn wrote:If you're really lucky (or have a little help from Hersrch) the output of your LWSS-to-G will line up with the input of the syringe, and you'll have a complete LWSS-to-G that's smaller and faster than the smallest one currently known.

What's the size of that "smallest one currently known"? After how many ticks is it ready to accept another LWSS?

So you don't have the smallest and fastest LWSS->G yet. But if you get through the rest of the walkthrough, step by step, you can beat both of those records.

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 2:21 pm**

DONE YEAH PREPARE YOUR CHIN TO FALL

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x = 185, y = 176, rule = LifeHistory
95.2A$94.A.A$88.2A4.A$86.A2.A2.2A.4A$86.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$89.A.ABABAB$89.
A.AB2AB$90.AB.2B$93.3B$89.B3.4B6.2A$89.5B2AB6.A$89.5B2AB3.BA.A$89.10B
.B2A$.D86.13B$2DB84.14B$DBDB82.15B$2.3B80.4B2.8B$2.4B78.4B5.6B$3.4B
76.4B4.9B$4.4B74.4B5.2A3.5B$5.4B72.4B7.A4.5B$6.4B70.4B5.3A6.5B$7.4B
68.4B6.A9.5B$8.4B66.4B18.5B$9.4B50.A13.4B20.4BD$10.4B49.3A10.4B22.5B$
11.4B51.A8.4B24.5B$12.4B49.2A7.4B26.5B$13.4B48.5B3.4B28.5B$14.4B49.3B
2.4B30.5B$15.4B38.2A7.9B32.5B$16.4B37.A8.8B34.5B$17.4B33.2A.A.B3.10B
36.5B$18.4B32.A2.3AB.2B2A7B37.5B$19.4B32.2A2.BA3B2A7B38.5B$20.4B33.4A
12B39.5B$21.4B32.A.2B3.7B.B2A38.5B$22.4B32.3AB2.7B.BA.A38.5B$23.4B34.
A4.4B5.A39.5B$24.4B28.5A5.4B5.2A39.5B$25.4B27.A10.4B46.5B$26.4B28.A9.
4B46.5B$27.4B26.2A10.4B46.5B$28.4B38.4B46.5B$29.4B38.4B46.5B$30.4B38.
4B7.A39.4B$31.4B38.4B6.3A38.4B$32.4B38.4B8.A38.4B$33.4B38.4B6.A.A38.
4B$34.4B38.4B5.A.AB38.4B$35.4B38.4B5.A3B38.4B$36.4B38.4B6.4B37.4B$37.
4B38.4B5.6B36.4B$38.4B38.4B4.7B36.4B$39.4B38.4B2.8B.4B.B30.4B$40.4B
38.17B.B2A30.4B$41.4B38.18B2A31.4B$42.4B37.16B.2B33.4B$43.4B36.16B36.
5B$44.4B35.15B38.5B$45.4B32.2AB.12B40.5B$46.4B30.A.AB2.11B41.5B$47.4B
29.A5.10B43.5B$48.4B27.2A5.2B2A6B44.5B$49.4B32.3B2A6B45.5B$50.4B32.
10B46.5B$51.4B31.8B.B2A.A43.5B$52.4B29.7B3.B2AB3A42.5B$53.4B28.6B6.B
4.A42.5B$54.4B28.6B4.2A.3A44.5B$55.4B27.5B4.A2.2A47.5B$56.4B25.8B.A.A
51.5B$57.4B24.8BA.A.2A.A48.5B$58.4B14.2A7.6B.2BAB.A.2A49.5B$59.4B14.A
6.2B3D2B2.2B2.A53.5B$60.4B13.A.AB3.4BD2B3.B.2A54.5B$61.4B13.2AB2.4B3D
B2.A.A2.2A53.5B$62.4B4.A9.11B2.2A2.A2.A53.5B$63.4B3.3A7.11B7.2A55.5B$
64.4B5.A6.11B65.5B$65.4B3.2AB4.11B67.5B$66.4B2.3B5.7B6.2A63.5B$67.4B
2.3B4.8B5.A65.5B$60.2A6.8B5.8B.BA.A67.4B$61.A6.21B.B2A69.4B$61.A.AB2.
24B72.4B$62.2AB.25B73.4B$64.27B74.4B$64.26B76.4B10.2A$64.26B77.4B9.A$
64.22B.B80.4B10.A$65.20B77.2A5.4B5.5A$66.18B79.A5.4B4.A$68.15B80.A.AB
.7B2.B3A$69.13B82.2AB.7B3.2B.A$69.12B85.12B4A$68.12B86.7B2A3BAB2.2A$
68.6B.4B87.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$69.9B88.10B3.B.A.2A$69.8B88.8B8.A$68.8B88.9B
7.2A$59.A8.7B88.4B2.3B$59.3A6.6B88.4B3.5B$57.2A3.A4.2B3D2B87.4B7.2A$
56.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B85.5B8.A$57.A3.4B.4B3DB84.5B10.3A$63.11B83.5B13.A$
55.5A2.12B82.5B$54.A4.A2.12B81.5B$50.2A.A.BAB4.11B81.5B$50.2A.A.2AB5.
7B10.2A71.5B$53.A.4BA3.8B9.A71.5B$50.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A70.5B$50.2A
.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A70.5B$58.2A18B71.5B$60.18B70.5B$60.18B69.5B$60.17B
69.5B$60.14B71.5B$62.12B70.5B$63.3B.7B69.5B$66.5BA4B66.5B$23.D2BD43BA
BA5B63.5B$24.3BD42B2A6B62.5B$23.D3BD49B2A60.5B$24.4D47B.B2A59.5B$24.
51B2.B59.5B$65.10B61.5B$65.9B61.5B$66.6B62.5B$66.6B61.5B$68.4B60.5B$
69.4B58.5B$70.4B56.5B$71.4B54.5B$72.4B52.5B$73.4B50.5B$74.4B48.5B$75.
4B46.5B$76.4B44.5B$77.4B42.5B$78.4B40.5B$79.4B38.5B$80.4B36.5B$81.4B
34.5B$82.4B32.5B$83.4B30.5B$84.4B28.5B$85.4B26.5B$86.4B24.5B$87.4B22.
5B$88.4B20.5B$89.4B19.4B$90.4B10.A6.4B$91.4B7.3A5.4B$92.4B5.A7.4B$93.
4B4.2A5.4B$94.9B4.4B$95.6B5.4B$95.8B2.4B$93.15B$93.14B$93.13B$91.2AB.
10B$90.A.AB3.B2A3B$90.A6.B2A3B$89.2A6.4B$98.3B$99.2B.BA$98.B2ABA.A$
97.BABABA.A$95.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$95.4A.2A2.A2.A$99.A4.2A$97.A.A$97.2A!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 2:30 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:DONE YEAH PREPARE YOUR CHIN TO FALL

Getting better fast!

What's the repeat time now? Is it smaller than 556 ticks yet?

What's the bounding box now? Is it smaller than 65x125? Your job is to beat the smallest LWSS-to-G converter currently known, which is something like

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x = 315, y = 125, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A6.A$13.2A5.A.A$21.A4$4.2A$4.2A3$26.2A$26.A$27.3A$29.A5$7.2A$8.A$
5.3A$5.A4$23.2A$23.A.A$25.A$25.2A$27.A$25.3A$24.A$24.2A6$26.2A$26.2A$
2.2A$.A.A$.A$2A$25.A$23.3A$22.A$22.2A2$15.2A$14.A2.A15.C2.C274.A2.A$
15.2A15.C277.A$32.C3.C273.A3.A$32.4C274.4A8$12.2A$13.A$10.3A$10.A6$3.
2A$4.A$4.A.A15.2A$5.2A15.2A8$52.2A$52.2A$3.2A$2.A2.A2.2A$3.2A2.A.A13.
2A$5.2A16.A.A$5.A19.A$2.2A.A2.A16.2A$2.A.2A.A.A41.A11.2A$6.A.A41.A.A
10.2A$3.2A2.A41.A2.A$.3A.2A43.2A$A$.3A.2A$3.A.2A$49.2A$13.2A35.A$13.
2A7.2A23.3A$22.A2.A21.A8.2A$20.A.A.2A30.2A$20.2A.A$23.A$23.3A$26.A$2A
23.2A$2A5$16.A$15.A.A17.2A$15.A.A10.2A5.A.A$16.A11.2A7.A$17.3A17.2A$
19.A$24.A$23.A.A.2A$23.A.A.A.A$20.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$20.A2.A2.2A.4A$22.2A
4.A$28.A.A$29.2A!

(don't count the second LWSS in the bounding box, just the catalysts in the LWSS->G converter.) EDIT: switched to LifeHistory and fixed an eater.

How can you reduce the size and improve the repeat rate of your converter, very easily, just by moving pairs of Snarks?

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 2:33 pm**

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x = 169, y = 114, rule = LifeHistory
84.2E$68.2E14.E$57.2E8.B2CB10.BE.E$55.2B2CB7.4B7.2B.BCE$55.4B8.4B6.5B
$48.2E5.6B5.5B4.7B$47.B2CB2.2B.8B.7B3.7B$48.2B2.22B.7B2.2E.E$49.35BE.
2E$47.36B$46.2B2C32B$45.3B2C32B57.2A$46.35B.B.2E2.2E48.A.A$46.38BE.E
2.E42.2A4.A$45.7B.30B.B.E.E41.A2.A2.2A.4A$45.6B.4B2.B3.23BCE.2E40.2A.
A.A.A.A2.A$46.9B2.3B3.21B.B47.A.ABABAB$46.8B3.B2CB3.20B49.A.AB2AB$45.
8B5.2E5.4B.13B51.AB.2B$36.A8.7B14.4B.11B55.3B$36.3A6.6B16.18B52.4B6.
2A$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B17.18B49.3B2AB6.A$33.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B18.17B7.2E40.3B
2AB3.BA.A$34.A3.4B.4B3DB19.16B2.2E2.E2.E37.10B.B2A$40.11B20.6B.8B2.E.
E2.E.E36.13B$32.5A2.12B21.4B3.7B3.B.2E.E6.B29.14B$31.A4.A2.12B22.4B2.
7B2.2B2.E7.2B28.15B$27.2A.A.BAB4.11B24.4B2.6B.2BCB.E6.3B27.4B2.8B$27.
2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A16.4B.8BC.E.2E4.4B26.4B5.6B$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A18.12B.2E
2.E3.5B25.4B4.9B$27.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A19.9B5.2E3.5B25.4B5.2A4.4B$
27.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A21.9B4.E3.5B25.4B7.A5.4B$35.2A18B24.4BD2B2.BE.E
2.5B.E23.4B5.3A7.4B$37.18B25.2B3D2B.BCE2.5B3E22.4B6.A10.4B$37.18B26.D
2B2D3B3.5BE24.4B19.4B$37.17B27.9B.5B.CE11.A10.4B21.4B$37.14B27.B.19B
11.3A7.4B23.4B$39.12B26.20B16.A5.4B25.4B$40.3B.7B23.2B.20B15.2A4.4B
27.4B$43.5BA4B20.EC23B14.9B6.2A21.4B10.2A$D2BD43BABA5B18.ECB.23B14.6B
7.A23.4B9.A$.3BD42B2A6B19.B4.24B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A24.4B10.A$D3BD49B2A
25.B2.15BD19B4.A2.A19.2A5.4B5.5A$.4D47B.B2A27.9B.4BDBD20B3.B2A21.A5.
4B4.A$.51B2.B27.7B.B2.4B3D9B2A14B22.A.AB.7B2.B3A$42.10B29.3BEC7.4BD
11B2A13B24.2AB.7B3.2B.A$42.9B29.5BE8.29B27.12B4A$43.6B30.3B3E16.4B.
17B27.7B2A3BAB2.2A$43.6B29.4BE17.5B2.15B28.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$45.4B28.5B
14.2A.2BA.2B2.15B28.10B3.B.A.2A$46.4B26.5B15.A.2BA.A.B3.13B28.8B8.A$
47.4B24.5B17.A2.BA.A2.13B29.9B7.2A$48.4B22.5B19.A3.A.A.2A4.8B27.4B2.
3B$49.4B20.5B18.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B26.4B3.5B$50.4B41.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B25.4B
7.2A$51.4B40.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B24.4B8.A$52.4B40.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B24.4B
10.3A$53.4B47.A.A9.B2AB22.4B13.A$54.4B47.A11.2A22.4B$55.4B81.4B$56.4B
79.4B$57.4B77.4B$58.4B75.4B$59.4B73.4B$60.4B71.4B$61.4B69.4B$62.4B67.
4B$63.4B65.4B$64.4B63.4B$65.4B61.4B$66.4B59.4B$67.4B57.4B$68.4B55.4B$
69.4B53.4B$70.4B51.4B$71.4B49.4B$72.4B47.4B$73.4B45.4B$74.4B43.4B$75.
4B41.4B$76.4B39.4B$77.4B37.4B$78.4B35.4B$79.4B33.4B$80.4B31.4B$81.4B
29.4B$82.4B27.4B$83.4B25.4B$84.4B23.4B$85.4B21.4B$86.4B19.4B$87.4B10.
A6.4B$88.4B7.3A5.4B$89.4B5.A7.4B$90.4B4.2A5.4B$91.9B4.4B$92.6B5.4B$
92.8B2.4B$90.15B$90.14B$90.13B$88.2AB.10B$87.A.AB3.B2A3B$87.A6.B2A3B$
86.2A6.4B$95.3B$96.2B.BA$95.B2ABA.A$94.BABABA.A$92.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$92.
4A.2A2.A2.A$96.A4.2A$94.A.A$94.2A!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 2:39 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:
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Yeah, there are lots of options, but don't forget that you have to get a glider out somewhere, or the whole thing turns into a really big fancy LWSS eater. You can eat an LWSS a lot more simply than that.

All of my questions from the last post would still apply to this new pattern, if it were still an LWSS->G.

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 3:14 pm**

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84.2E$68.2E14.E$57.2E8.B2CB10.BE.E$55.2B2CB7.4B7.2B.BCE$55.4B8.4B6.5B
$48.2E5.6B5.5B4.7B$47.B2CB2.2B.8B.7B3.7B$48.2B2.22B.7B2.2E.E$49.35BE.
2E$47.36B$46.2B2C32B$45.3B2C32B$46.35B.B.2E2.2E$46.38BE.E2.E$45.7B.
30B.B.E.E$45.6B.4B2.B3.23BCE.2E$46.9B2.3B3.21B.B$46.8B3.B2CB3.20B$45.
8B5.2E5.4B.13B$36.A8.7B14.4B.11B$36.3A6.6B16.18B$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B17.
18B$33.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B18.17B7.2E35.A11.2A$34.A3.4B.4B3DB19.16B2.2E2.E
2.E33.A.A9.B2AB$40.11B20.6B.8B2.E.E2.E.E25.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$32.5A2.12B
21.4B3.7B3.B.2E.E12.A12.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$21.B9.A4.A2.12B22.4B2.7B2.
2B2.E14.3A10.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$21.B5.2A.A.BAB4.11B24.4B2.6B.2BCB.E17.A
10.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$27.2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A16.4B.8BC.E.2E15.2A12.A3.A.A.2A
4.8B$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A18.12B.2E2.E15.4B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$27.2A.A3.BABA2.
10B4.BA.A19.9B5.2E18.3B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$27.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A21.9B4.E
18.4B7.2A.2BA5.15B$35.2A18B24.7B2.BE.E8.E9.5B10.3B4.15B$37.18B25.7B.B
2E7.3E8.6B11.2B.B.17B$37.18B26.8B8.E11.8B2.29B$37.17B27.9B3.B3.2E9.
14BD11B2A13B$37.14B27.B.10B.8B10.13B3D9B2A14B$39.12B26.20B13.7B.4BDBD
20B3.B2A$40.3B.7B23.2B.20B12.15BD19B4.A2.A$43.5BAB.2B20.2E23B11.16B.
2B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$E2BE43BABA.4B18.2EB.23B8.17B14.6B7.A$.3BE42B2A6B
19.B4.24B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$E3BE49B2A14.B10.B3.14BD22B15.2A4.4B$.4E47B
.B2A30.6B.4BDBD13B.8B16.A5.4B$.51B2.B29.5B.B2.4B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.4B
$42.10B32.2E7.4BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A10.4B$42.9B34.E8.18B10.A24.4B$43.
6B33.3E16.B2.B.3B.B12.3A22.4B$43.6B33.E42.A23.4B$45.4B101.4B$46.4B
101.4B$47.4B101.4B$48.4B101.4B$49.4B101.4B10.2A$50.4B101.4B9.A$51.4B
101.4B10.A$52.4B94.2A5.4B5.5A$53.4B94.A5.4B4.A$54.4B93.A.AB.7B2.B3A$
55.4B93.2AB.7B3.2B.A$56.4B94.12B4A$57.4B93.7B2A3BAB2.2A$58.4B92.7B2A
2B.B3A2.A$59.4B91.10B3.B.A.2A$60.4B89.8B8.A$61.4B87.9B7.2A$62.4B85.4B
2.3B$63.4B83.4B3.5B$64.4B81.4B7.2A$65.4B79.4B8.A$66.4B77.D3B10.3A$67.
4B75.DBDB13.A$68.4B73.3BD$69.4B71.4B$70.4B69.4B$71.4B67.4B$72.4B65.4B
$73.4B63.4B$74.4B61.4B$75.4B59.4B$76.4B57.4B$77.4B55.4B$78.4B53.4B$
79.4B51.4B$80.4B49.4B$81.4B47.4B$82.4B45.4B$83.4B43.4B$84.4B41.4B$85.
4B39.4B$86.4B37.4B$87.4B35.4B$88.4B33.4B$89.4B31.4B$90.4B29.4B$91.4B
27.4B$92.3BD25.4B$93.3BD23.4B$94.3DB21.4B$95.4B19.4B$96.4B10.A6.4B$
97.4B7.3A5.4B$98.4B5.A7.4B$99.4B4.2A5.4B$100.9B4.4B$101.6B5.4B$101.8B
2.4B$99.15B$99.14B$99.13B$97.2AB.10B$96.A.AB3.B2A3B$96.A6.B2A3B$95.2A
6.4B$104.3B$105.2B.BA$104.B2ABA.A$103.BABABA.A$101.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$101.
4A.2A2.A2.A$105.A4.2A$103.A.A$103.2A!

Finally for a while, I done what you said:

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x = 173, y = 123, rule = LifeHistory
84.2E$68.2E14.E$57.2E8.B2CB10.BE.E$55.2B2CB7.4B7.2B.BCE$55.4B8.4B6.5B
$48.2E5.6B5.5B4.7B$47.B2CB2.2B.8B.7B3.7B$48.2B2.22B.7B2.2E.E$49.35BE.
2E$47.36B$46.2B2C32B$45.3B2C32B$46.35B.B.2E2.2E$46.38BE.E2.E$45.7B.
30B.B.E.E$45.6B.4B2.B3.23BCE.2E$46.9B2.3B3.21B.B48.2A$46.8B3.B2CB3.
20B49.A.A$45.8B5.2E5.4B.13B44.2A4.A$36.A8.7B14.4B.11B43.A2.A2.2A.4A$
36.3A6.6B16.18B40.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B17.18B42.A.ABABAB$33.
A.A2.2A4.4BD2B18.17B7.2E33.A.AB2AB$34.A3.4B.4B3DB19.16B2.2E2.E2.E33.A
B.2B$40.11B20.6B.8B2.E.E2.E.E36.3B$32.5A2.12B21.4B3.7B3.B.2E.E37.4B6.
2A$21.B9.A4.A2.12B22.4B2.7B2.2B2.E37.3B2AB6.A$21.B5.2A.A.BAB4.11B24.
4B2.6B.2BCB.E37.3B2AB3.BA.A$27.2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A16.4B.8BC.E.2E34.10B.
B2A$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A18.12B.2E2.E33.13B$27.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A19.9B5.
2E33.14B$27.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A21.9B4.E33.15B$35.2A18B24.7B2.BE.E8.E
23.4B2.8B$37.18B25.7B.B2E7.3E22.4B5.6B$37.18B26.8B8.E24.4B4.9B$37.17B
27.9B3.B3.2E11.A10.4B5.2A4.4B$37.14B27.B.10B.8B11.3A7.4B7.A5.4B$39.
12B26.20B16.A5.4B5.3A7.4B$40.3B.7B23.2B.20B15.2A4.4B6.A10.4B$43.10B
20.2E23B14.9B6.2A11.4B$D2BD51B18.2EB.23B14.6B7.A13.B3D$.3BD50B19.B4.
24B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A14.D3B$D3BD49B2A14.B10.B3.14BD19B4.A2.A16.D3B$.4D
47B.B2A30.6B.4BDBD20B3.B2A18.4B$.51B2.B29.5B.B2.4B3D9B2A14B20.4B$42.
10B32.2E7.4BD11B2A13B22.4B$42.9B34.E8.29B24.4B$43.6B33.3E16.B2.B.17B
25.4B$43.6B33.E24.15B27.4B$45.4B58.15B28.4B$46.4B58.13B30.4B$47.4B55.
13B33.4B$48.4B52.A.2A4.8B33.4B$49.4B49.3AB2A6.6B34.4B10.2A$50.4B47.A
4.B8.5B35.4B9.A$51.4B47.3A.2A9.B.B36.4B10.A$52.4B48.A.A9.3B31.2A5.4B
5.5A$53.4B47.A.A9.B2AB31.A5.4B4.A$54.4B47.A11.2A32.A.AB.7B2.B3A$55.4B
93.2AB.7B3.2B.A$56.4B94.12B4A$57.4B93.7B2A3BAB2.2A$58.4B92.7B2A2B.B3A
2.A$59.4B91.10B3.B.A.2A$60.4B89.8B8.A$61.4B87.9B7.2A$62.4B85.4B2.3B$
63.4B83.4B3.5B$64.4B81.4B7.2A$65.4B79.4B8.A$66.4B77.D3B10.3A$67.4B75.
DBDB13.A$68.4B73.3BD$69.4B71.4B$70.4B69.4B$71.4B67.4B$72.4B65.4B$73.
4B63.4B$74.4B61.4B$75.4B59.4B$76.4B57.4B$77.4B55.4B$78.4B53.4B$79.4B
51.4B$80.4B49.4B$81.4B47.4B$82.4B45.4B$83.4B43.4B$84.4B41.4B$85.4B39.
4B$86.4B37.4B$87.4B35.4B$88.4B33.4B$89.4B31.4B$90.4B29.4B$91.4B27.4B$
92.3BD25.4B$93.3BD23.4B$94.3DB21.4B$95.4B19.4B$96.4B10.A6.4B$97.4B7.
3A5.4B$98.4B5.A7.4B$99.4B4.2A5.4B$100.9B4.4B$101.6B5.4B$101.8B2.4B$
99.15B$99.14B$99.13B$97.2AB.10B$96.A.AB3.B2A3B$96.A6.B2A3B$95.2A6.4B$
104.3B$105.2B.BA$104.B2ABA.A$103.BABABA.A$101.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$101.4A.2A
2.A2.A$105.A4.2A$103.A.A$103.2A!

I though on removing all conduits and put a G-to-H-to-boat and remaking everything else snark. This should be good.

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 3:26 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:
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That got the glider back, but now the converter is bigger and slower. That's kind of a step in the wrong direction.

How many ticks do you have to run this pattern, before you can paste another LWSS in the same location and have the converter work again? That's the repeat rate of the pattern. The target to beat is 556 ticks.

You still have a pair of Snarks you can move diagonally, up to 10 spaces. Every time you move a pair of Snarks inward by 1 diagonal cell, you save 8 ticks on the repeat rate. That's because the glider doesn't have to travel so far, either coming or going, and it travels at 1/4 of lightspeed.

You'll probably have to do more than just adjust the Snarks -- there are lots of other options to try. Did you try looking at Step 3 of the walkthrough again?

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 3:48 pm**

Or, just to start the discussion, you have a 246-step right-turn Herschel conduit in there. (You're turning left with it, because you're starting from a mirror-image Herschel).

What is that conduit good for, exactly? It's not producing any gliders -- it eats every glider that it produces. And a right or left turn could be done a lot faster and smaller with a Snark.

So what happens if you take the R246 out, keep everything else, and re-connect the glider to the syringe using Snarks?

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 4:05 pm**

This don't work, but at this point I am outdone...

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99.2A$99.A13.B.2B6.B$96.BA.A8.B2.7B.2B.B2A$93.B.BA.A7.17B2A$92.2A3BA
3.2B3.18B$92.2AB.3B.24B$93.B3.2B.22B$96.25B$65.2E3.2A23.26B$64.E2.E.E
.A22.28B$60.2A3.3E.E.A.AB18.29B$59.A.A7.A2.2AB.2A14.4B2.24B$59.A7.3A
4.2B2AB12.4B.24B.B2A$58.2A6.A7.4B6.36B.BA.A$56.3B7.2A6.6B3.4BD11B2A
18B5.A$55.5B.7B7.6B2.4B3D9B2A17B6.2A$55.13B7.7B.4BDBD29B$55.14B5.15BD
19B3D7B2A$53.17B3.20B2.2B2.11BD4B3.A2BA2.2A$51.39B10.10B3D2B3.ABAB3.A
$50.38B12.6B2.6B5.A4B.A.2A$50.14B3D20B15.4B.7B7.B2A.A.A$47.17BD23B18.
8B7.BAB.A2.A$34.2A10.18B3D21B17.8B6.A4.A2.2A$35.A7.38B2.3B.B2A15.8B6.
5A$35.A.AB3.39B6.BA.A12.2AB2.6B$36.2AB.42B8.A11.A.AB.7B7.2A.A$38.45B
7.2A10.A4.6B8.A.2A$38.34B2.10B17.2A4.6B$38.32B4.6B.4B15.A6.6B$39.31B
6.B.B3.4B14.3A3.8B$40.B2.27B5.3B5.4B16.A2.8B5.B$38.28B.4B4.B2AB5.4B
14.2AB.8B4.3B$38.27B3.4B4.2A7.4B13.13B3.5B$37.2A25B5.2B2A13.4B14.11B
2.8B$37.2A25B6.BABA29.22B$38.B.23B8.2BAB26.23B$41.20B11.B2AB25.23B$
41.3B2.14B13.4B23.2A22B$42.B3.11B6.2A9.3B23.2A22B$47.10B6.A8.2A.2B24.
B.19B.B2A$50.7B3.BA.A8.A3.B26.19B.BA.A$49.10B.B2A6.BA.A31.B3.B.10B6.A
$48.13B8.B2A40.10B4.2A$47.15B5.3B43.10B$48.3B2D12B.4B40.14B$48.3BD2BD
14B40.14B$47.5BDBD13B41.14B$47.5B3D12B42.13B$48.21B40.B3D7B$47.22B40.
2BD4B.2B$47.23B39.2B3D2B$48.22B39.6B$46.24B38.7B$43.2B.7B.B2.11B.B2A
35.8B$42.2A9B3.8B.B3.BA.A33.8B$42.2AB.6B3.6B11.A33.8B$43.B2.6B2.4B14.
2A30.2AB2.6B$45.7B.4B46.A.AB.7B$45.6B.4B47.A4.6B15.2A$46.9B47.2A4.8B
4.B8.A$46.8B55.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A$45.8B55.2B2A13B.B2A$36.A8.7B57.18B$36.
3A6.6B59.17B$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B62.13B$33.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B61.12B$34.A3.4B.
4B3DB61.10B$40.11B60.11B$32.5A2.12B60.7B.2B$31.A4.A2.12B59.11B$27.2A.
A.BAB4.11B61.11B$27.2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A52.11B7.2A$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A53.11B
2.2A2.A2.A$27.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A51.2AB2.4B3DB2.A.A2.2A$27.2A.2A2.A
2BA.14B.B2A51.A.AB3.4BD2B3.B.2A$35.2A18B53.A6.2B3D2B2.2B2.A$37.18B52.
2A8.5B.2BAB.A.2A$37.18B61.8BA.A.2A.A$37.17B62.8B.A.A$37.14B66.5B4.A2.
2A$39.12B66.6B4.2A.3A$40.3B.7B65.6B6.B4.A$43.5BA4B63.7B3.B2AB3A$E2BE
43BABA5B62.8B.B2A.A$.3BE42B2A6B62.10B$E3BE49B2A60.3B2A6B$.4E47B.B2A
54.2A5.2B2A6B$.51B2.B56.A5.10B$42.10B59.A.AB2.11B$42.9B61.2AB.12B$43.
3BD2B65.15B$43.BDBD2B65.16B$45.2D2B65.16B.2B$46.4B64.18B2A$47.4B62.
17B.B2A$48.4B60.4B2.8B.4B.B$49.4B58.4B4.7B$50.4B56.4B5.6B$51.4B54.4B
6.4B$52.4B52.2D2B5.A3B$53.4B50.D.DB5.A.AB$54.4B51.D6.A.A$55.4B58.A$
56.4B54.3A$57.4B53.A$58.4B$59.4B$60.4B$61.4B$62.4B$63.4B$64.4B$65.3BD
25.B$66.3BD23.2B$67.3DB21.3B$68.4B19.4B$69.4B10.A6.4B$70.4B7.3A5.4B$
71.4B5.A7.4B$72.4B4.2A5.4B$73.9B4.4B$74.6B5.4B$74.8B2.4B$72.15B$72.
14B$72.13B$70.2AB.10B$69.A.AB3.B2A3B$69.A6.B2A3B$68.2A6.4B$77.3B$78.
2B.BA$77.B2ABA.A$76.BABABA.A$74.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$74.4A.2A2.A2.A$78.A4.2A
$76.A.A$76.2A!

Look:

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x = 136, y = 140, rule = LifeHistory
67.2A$66.A.A$60.2A4.A$58.A2.A2.2A.4A$58.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$61.A.ABABAB$61.
A.AB2AB$62.AB.2B$65.3B$65.4B6.2A$63.3B2AB6.A$63.3B2AB3.BA.A$61.10B.B
2A$60.13B$59.14B$58.15B$57.4B2.8B$56.4B5.6B$55.4B4.9B$54.4B5.2A4.4B$
45.A7.4B7.A5.4B$43.3A6.4B5.3A7.4B$42.A8.4B6.A10.4B$41.A.A6.4B19.4B$
40.BA.A5.4B21.B3D$39.3BA5.4B23.D2B$37.4B6.4B25.D2B$35.6B5.4B26.4B$34.
7B4.4B28.4B$27.B.4B.8B2.4B30.4B$26.2AB.17B32.4B$26.2A18B34.4B5.B$27.
2B.16B35.4B3.2B$30.16B36.4B.3B$31.15B37.7B$32.12B.B2A36.5B$32.11B2.BA
.A35.5B$33.10B5.A34.7B$33.6B2A2B5.2A32.4B.4B$33.6B2A3B37.4B3.4B$33.
10B37.4B5.4B$29.A.2AB.8B36.4B7.4B$27.3AB2AB3.7B34.4B9.4B$26.A4.B6.6B
33.4B11.4B$27.3A.2A4.6B33.4B13.4B$29.2A2.A4.5B32.4B15.4B$32.A.A.8B30.
4B17.4B$28.A.2A.A.A8B29.4B19.4B$28.2A.A.BA2B.6B28.4B21.4B$31.A2.2B2.
2B3D2B26.4B23.4B$31.2A.B3.2BD4B3.B21.4B25.4B$29.2A2.A.A2.B3D4B2.B20.
4B27.4B$28.A2.A2.2A2.11B19.4B29.4B$29.2A7.11B18.4B31.4B$38.11B17.4B
33.4B$39.11B15.4B35.4B$39.2B.7B15.4B37.4B$38.11B14.4B39.4B$38.10B14.
4B41.4B$36.12B13.4B43.4B$34.13B13.4B45.4B$33.17B9.4B47.5B$33.18B7.4B
49.5B$31.2AB.13B2A2B5.4B51.5B$30.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB5.4B53.5B$30.A8.B4.8B
3.4B55.5B$29.2A15.6B2.4B57.5B$45.7B.4B59.5B10.2A$45.6B.4B62.4B9.A$46.
9B64.4B10.A$46.8B59.2A5.4B5.5A$45.8B61.A5.4B4.A$36.A8.7B62.A.AB.7B2.B
3A$36.3A6.6B64.2AB.7B3.2B.A$34.2A3.A4.2B3D2B66.12B4A$33.A.A2.2A4.4BD
2B66.7B2A3BAB2.2A$34.A3.4B.4B3DB66.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$40.11B66.10B3.B.A.2A
$32.5A2.12B65.8B8.A$21.B9.A4.A2.12B64.9B7.2A$21.B5.2A.A.BAB4.11B64.4B
2.3B$27.2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A54.4B3.5B$30.A.4BA3.8B9.A54.4B7.2A$27.2A.A3.
BABA2.10B4.BA.A53.4B8.A$27.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A53.2D2B10.3A$35.2A18B
54.DBDB13.A$37.18B53.3BD$37.18B52.4B$37.17B52.4B$37.14B54.4B$39.12B
53.4B$40.3B.7B52.4B$43.5BA4B49.4B$D2BD43BABA5B46.4B$.3BD42B2A6B45.4B$
D3BD49B2A43.4B$.4D47B.B2A42.4B$.51B2.B42.4B$42.10B44.4B$42.9B44.4B$
43.6B45.4B$43.6B44.4B$45.4B43.4B$46.4B41.4B$47.4B39.4B$48.4B37.B.2B$
49.4B35.2B$50.4B33.3B$51.4B31.4B$52.B32.4B$84.4B$54.3B26.4B$54.4B24.
4B$55.3BD23.3B$56.3BD22.2B$57.3DB21.B$58.4B19.2B$59.4B10.A6.3B$60.4B
7.3A5.4B$61.4B5.A7.4B$62.4B4.2A5.4B$63.9B4.4B$64.6B5.4B$64.8B2.4B$62.
15B$62.14B$62.13B$60.2AB.10B$59.A.AB3.B2A3B$59.A6.B2A3B$58.2A6.4B$67.
3B$68.2B.BA$67.B2ABA.A$66.BABABA.A$64.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$64.4A.2A2.A2.A$
68.A4.2A$66.A.A$66.2A!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 4:22 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:This don't work, but at this point I am outdone...

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x = 134, y = 140, rule = LifeHistory...[/quote]
Yes, that doesn't [u]quite[/u] work, because gliders can be two different colors.

Pick an orientation and phase and just look at the leading cell of the glider.  Think of it as being on a chessboard.  The leading cell could be on the white squares of the chessboard, or it could be on the black squares.

So that's what "glider color" means.  Gliders are like the bishops in chess -- if a bishop starts on the white squares, it can never move to the black squares.  Snarks are "color-preserving" reflectors, so they don't change a glider's color when they turn it.

Notice if you run your latest pattern to T=364 or T=368, the active glider doesn't quite line up with your red-marked glider location.  No matter how you move that first Snark, it will never line up.  That just means you have to use different conduits, to put that red-marked glider on a different colored "bishop square".

You've done great so far, so take a break from the project as long as you want -- you've done a lot of new stuff pretty quickly.

[quote="Gustavo6046"]Look:
[code]x = 136, y = 140, rule = LifeHistory...[/quote]
Aha -- you've got it!  That one is fixable.  There's just one Snark that's offset a little, and you're suddenly missing an eater in your Fx77 conduit.  Fix that, whenever you're ready, and then look at moving pairs of Snarks in until you can't move them any more.

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 4:24 pm**

I am still doing some randomness (or better, randonMESS) in Golly.
look this reaction:

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x = 14, y = 20, rule = LifeHistory
7.2A$3.A.A2.A$.3A.2A$A$.3A.2A$3.A.2A5$11.A$10.A.A$10.A2.A$11.2A2$12.A
$11.B2A$10.BABA$10.3B$10.2B!

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 4:37 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:I am still doing some randomness (or better, randonMESS) in Golly.
look this reaction...

Messy is right.

It leaves a blinker behind.

It uses up an eater2 and a loaf.

All you get out is a glider.

So -- why do you want me to look at it? Why is it any more interesting than this --

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x = 18, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A7$11.2A.A$11.2A.3A$17.A$11.2A.3A$12.A.A$12.A.A$13.A!

or all the many, many other ways to destroy an eater2 and get a glider out?

Posted: **October 6th, 2015, 4:51 pm**

I am listening!

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 7:56 am**

I got a nice H-to-P reaction, though I think it will be useless:

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x = 19, y = 23, rule = LifeHistory
17.2A$17.A$14.BA.A$13.2B2A$12.4B$9.B.4B$7.7B$7.6B$6.2B3C2B$2A4.4BC2B$
2A3.4B3CB$3.10B$3.10B$3.10B$2.11B$2.11B3D$3.12BD$5.8B3D$4.2BC7B$4.BCB
CB$4.BCBCB$5.BCB$6.B!

Almost W-to-Blinker:

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x = 30, y = 16, rule = LifeHistory
.A$A.A$.2A3$19.E$18.2E$17.E$17.2E4$26.2A$26.A.A$28.A$28.2A!

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 11:02 am**

any reflector that change color?

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 11:07 am**

Go get one of my syringes and attach a H-to-G to its output. Corny, but still small enough to be viable.

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 11:09 am**

Thank you Freywa, but I found that the smallest and easiest H-to-H also changes the color!
Anyway, functional W-to-LS;

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x = 195, y = 145, rule = LifeHistory
181.2E$182.E$166.E15.E.EB$160.E5.3E14.2EB$160.3E6.E7.2E6.3B$163.E4.2E
6.B2EB5.4B$162.2E4.B8.3B3.7B.3B$162.8B6.B.B3.12B$164.6B5.18B2E$161.
12B.19B2E$157.B2.32B.B$156.35B$155.2E34B$155.2EB.8B2E9B.10B$156.B3.7B
EBEB2.5B3.8B$162.6BEB3.5B4.7B$161.7B5.5B.11B$160.7B6.17B$159.4B.5B4.
17B$158.4B5.2E4.16B$157.4B6.E5.13B.4B$156.4B8.3E2.12B4.2E$155.4B11.E
2.12B4.E$154.4B15.11B6.3E$153.4B16.11B8.E$152.4B17.11B$151.4B18.10B$
150.4B19.10B$149.4B20.11B$148.4B20.12B$147.4B4.2E14.12B2.B$146.4B6.E
11.15B.B2E$133.2E10.4B7.E.EB3.B.20B2E$134.E9.4B9.2EB.11B.10B.2B$132.E
10.4B12.24B$44.7B3.B77.5E5.4B5.2E6.22B$43.9B.3B81.E4.4B5.E7.23B$42.
15B39.2A36.3EB2.7B.BE.E8.22B$39.19B38.A.A34.E.2B3.7B.B2E9.21B$37.23B
38.A4.2A28.4E12B13.20B$36.24B34.4A.2A2.A2.A24.2E2.BE3B2E7B12.21B$35.
2A16BE7B33.A2.A.A.A.A.2A23.E2.3EB.2B2E7B12.20B$34.BABA2B2.10B2E8B34.B
ABABA.A26.2E.E.B3.10B10.2EB2.17B$31.5BA2B2.10BE10B35.B2ABA.A29.E8.8B
8.E.EB5.15B$28.3B.7B3.9B2E7B38.2B.BA30.2E7.9B7.E9.13B$27.12B5.15B38.
3B43.3B2.4B5.2E7.2EB.10B$25.14B5.16B28.2A6.4B41.5B3.4B12.E.EB3.7B$25.
17B3.8B4.4B28.A6.B2A3B39.2E7.4B11.E6.10B$25.18B3.7B5.4B27.A.AB3.B2A3B
40.E8.4B9.2E6.11B3.B$25.18B4.5B7.4B27.2AB.10B35.3E10.4B13.14B2.3B$23.
2A18B5.3B9.4B28.13B34.E13.4B11.20B$15.2A.2A2.A2BA.14B.B2A16.4B27.14B
48.4B8.23B.B$15.2A.A3.BABA2.10B4.BA.A16.4B26.15B48.4B6.25B2E$18.A.4BA
3.8B9.A17.4B27.8B2.4B31.4B13.4B5.25B2E$15.2A.A.2AB5.7B10.2A17.4B26.6B
5.4B31.4B7.2A4.4B3.27B$15.2A.A.BAB4.11B27.4B24.9B4.4B31.B2AB5.B2AB4.
4B.28B$19.A4.A2.12B27.4B22.4B4.2A5.4B31.BA2B5.3B5.27B2.B$20.5A2.12B
28.4B20.4B5.A7.4B31.ABAB3.B.B6.31B$28.11B29.4B18.4B7.3A5.4B31.2A2B.6B
4.32B$22.A3.4B.4B3DB30.4B16.4B10.A6.4B31.10B2.34B$21.A.A2.2A4.4BD2B
31.4B14.4B19.3BD22.2A7.45B$22.2A3.A4.2B3D2B32.4B12.3DB21.3BD22.A8.42B
.B2E$24.3A6.6B.B31.4B10.3BD23.3DB21.A.AB6.39B3.BE.E$24.A8.8B32.4B8.3B
D25.4B10.A10.2AB.3B2.38B7.E$33.8B33.4B6.4B27.4B7.3A12.21B3D18B10.2E$
34.8B33.4B4.4B29.4B5.A15.23BD17B$34.9B33.4B.5B31.4B4.2A15.20B3D14B$
33.6B.4B33.8B25.2A6.9B14.38B$33.7B.4B33.6B27.A7.6B14.39B$17.2A15.6B2.
4B33.4B28.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B3.19B$18.A8.B4.8B3.4B31.6B28.A2.A4.19BD
15B5.18B$18.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB5.4B29.4B.3B28.2AB3.20BDBD4B.7B7.17B$19.2AB
.13B2A2B5.4B27.4B2.4B28.14B2A9B3D4B2.6B7.7B.9B$21.18B7.3BD25.4B4.4B
28.13B2A11BD4B3.6B6.2E7.8B$21.17B9.3BD23.4B6.4B28.29B6.4B7.E6.2E2.5B$
22.13B13.3DB21.4B8.4B27.17B.B.2B12.B2A2B4.3E7.E3.5B$24.12B13.4B19.4B
10.4B27.15B4.3B12.2A.B2A2.E7.E.E3.5B$26.10B14.4B10.A6.4B12.4B26.15B5.
A2B.2A11.BA.A.A.3A3.2E4.5B$26.11B14.4B7.3A5.4B14.4B26.13B5.A.A2B.A14.
A.A.A2.A8.5B$27.2B.7B15.4B5.A7.4B16.4B27.13B2.A.AB2.A15.2A3.2A9.5B$
27.11B15.4B4.2A5.4B18.4B25.8B4.2A.A.A3.A32.5B$26.11B17.9B4.4B20.4B24.
6B6.2ABA2.4A.A30.5B$26.11B18.6B5.4B22.4B23.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A29.5B$26.
11B18.8B2.4B24.4B22.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A29.B2D2B$26.B3D4B2.B2A14.15B26.
4B22.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A30.3D2B$26.2BD4B3.BA.A13.14B28.4B20.B2AB9.A.A38.2D
BDB$26.2B3D2B6.A13.13B30.4B20.2A11.A40.3D$26.6B7.2A10.2AB.10B32.4B74.
D$25.7B18.A.AB3.B2A3B35.4B$24.8B18.A6.B2A3B36.4B$23.8B18.2A6.4B39.4B$
23.8B27.3B40.3B$21.2AB2.6B27.2B.BA40.2B$20.A.AB.7B26.B2ABA.A38.4B$20.
A4.6B26.BABABA.A39.4B$19.2A4.6B24.A2.A.A.A.A.2A37.3BD$25.6B24.4A.2A2.
A2.A38.DBDB13.A$24.8B27.A4.2A41.2D2B10.3A$25.8B24.A.A48.4B8.A$24.9B
24.2A50.4B7.2A$24.9B77.4B3.5B$24.10B77.4B2.3B$24.5B2A3B78.9B7.2A$24.
5B2A4B78.8B8.A$24.11B79.10B3.B.A.2A$24.12BA77.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$3.B22.8B
2.3A75.7B2A3BAB2.2A$26.7B6.A74.12B4A$17.2A7.5B5.3A2.2B2A67.2AB.7B3.2B
.A$18.A5.7B5.A4.2BA67.A.AB.7B2.B3A$18.A.AB2.8B.BA.A3.BABA67.A5.4B4.A$
19.2AB.9B.B2A3.2B2A67.2A5.4B5.5A$21.13B4.4B74.4B10.A$10.B5.B4.12B4.4B
74.4B9.A$9.A2B.7B.12B3.4B37.A36.4B10.2A$8.A.A23B.4B36.3A35.4B$9.AB.
26B36.A37.4B$12.25B31.2B4.2A$10.26B32.8B3.B30.D$9.26B19.A12.7B4.4B27.
D$5.29B.3B.B12.3A12.9B.6B25.B3D$4.37B10.A14.10B.6B13.A10.4B$.B.23BD
11B2A2B5.B3.2A12.19B12.3A7.4B$2A24B3D9B2A2B3.8B13.19B14.A5.4B$2AB.22B
DBD13B.8B17.17B13.2A4.4B$.B3.2B.20BD22B18.15B14.9B6.2A$7.25B2.2B.15B
17.17B14.6B7.A$8.21B8.17B13.22B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$10.17B11.19B2.2B3.
21BD19B4.A2.A$10.16B12.15BD24B.4BDBD20B3.B2A$10.17B12.7B.4BDBD23B2.4B
3D9B2A14B$10.17B11.13B3D23B2.4BD11B2A13B$10.A7B3.5B11.14BD24B4.29B$9.
A.A.A.AB3.2BAB14.8B2.29B10.2B.B.17B$8.A.2A.2A.A4.ABAB13.6B11.4B.16B
10.3B4.15B$8.A3.A3.A4.ABAB14.5B12.3B5.12B6.2A.2BA5.15B$9.2A3.2A6.AB
15.4B14.4B6.9B6.A.2BA.A5.13B$11.3A.A.A22.3B16.2A5.11B6.A2.BA.A2.13B$
11.A4.2A20.4B17.A5.2AB.7B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$38.2A20.3A.A.AB2.4B8.A.4A2.A
B2A6.6B$39.A22.A.A5.2B2AB6.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$36.3A24.2A7.2A7.A.A2.A2.2A
.2A9.B.B$36.A45.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$90.A.A9.B2AB$91.A11.2A!

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 11:20 am**

Nice! Now, here are some things you could do to make it smaller:

•Replace the elaborate destroy-and-recreate-boat + syringe with a one-step W-to-H:

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x = 35, y = 31, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.5D10.D3.3D2.D3.D$D3.D.D13.2D2.D5.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D2.D.D2.D5.D3.D
$D.D.D.3D4.D.D2.D2.D2.4D2.5D$D.D.D.D7.D3.5D.D3.D.D3.D$2D.2D.D6.D.D5.D
2.D3.D.D3.D$D3.D.D5.D3.D4.D3.3D2.D3.D10$13.B.2B.3B.B$11.17B$10.6B2A
11BD$9.2B2E3B2A9B3DB$9.3BE14BDBD$8.2B2E15BD$9.BE7B2.2B2.2B$8.9B$8.9B$
7.8B$6.2AB.4B$5.A.AB.2B2AB$5.A6.2A$4.2A!

•Try not to overcomplicate the conduit sequence e.g. an H-to-C-to-H is better than a H-to-B-to-R-to-W-to-Q-to-H

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 11:41 am**

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x = 79, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
65.2E$66.E$50.E15.E.EB$44.E5.3E14.ECB$44.3E6.E7.2E6.3B$47.E4.2E6.B2CB
5.4B$46.EC4.B8.3B3.7B.3B$46.8B6.B.B3.12B$48.6B5.18BCE$45.12B.19BCE$
41.B2.32B.B$40.35B$39.EC34B$39.ECB.8B2C9B.10B$40.B3.7BCBCB2.5B3.8B$
46.6BCB3.5B4.7B$45.7B5.5B.11B$44.7B6.17B$43.4B.5B4.17B$42.4B5.CE4.16B
$41.4B6.E5.13B.4B$40.4B8.3E2.12B4.CE$39.4B11.E2.12B4.E$38.4B15.11B6.
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4B20.12B$31.4B4.2E14.12B2.B$30.4B6.E11.15B.BCE$17.2E10.4B7.E.EB3.B.
20BCE$18.E9.4B9.ECB.11B.10B.2B$16.E10.4B12.24B$16.5E5.4B5.2E6.22B$21.
E4.4B5.E7.23B$18.E2CB2.7B.BE.E8.22B$17.E.2B3.7B.BCE9.21B$17.E3C12B13.
20B$15.2E2.BC3B2C7B12.21B$14.E2.E2CB.2B2C7B12.20B$14.2E.E.B3.10B10.EC
B2.17B$17.E8.8B8.E.EB5.15B$17.2E7.9B7.E9.13B$27.3B2.4B5.2E7.ECB.10B$
25.5B3.4B12.E.EB3.7B$25.EC7.4B11.E6.10B$26.E8.4B9.2E6.11B3.B$23.3E10.
4B13.14B2.3B$23.E13.4B11.20B$38.4B8.23B.B$39.4B6.25BCE$23.4B13.4B5.
25BCE$24.4B7.2A4.4B3.27B$25.B2AB5.B2AB4.4B.28B$26.BA2B5.3B5.27B2.B$
27.ABAB3.B.B6.31B$28.2A2B.6B4.32B$29.10B2.34B$21.2A7.45B$22.A8.42B.BC
E$2A20.A.AB6.39B3.BE.E$.A6.2A13.2AB.3B2.38B7.E$.A.AB.2B2AB14.21B3D18B
10.2E$2.2AB.4B15.23BD17B$3.8B15.20B3D14B$4.9B12.38B$4.9B10.39B$5.BE7B
2.2B2.20B3.19B$4.2B2E15BD15B5.18B$5.3BE14BDBD4B.7B7.17B$5.2B2E3B2A9B
3D4B2.6B7.7B.9B$6.6B2A11BD4B3.6B6.EC7.8B$7.22B6.4B7.E6.2E2.5B$9.B.2B.
3B.4B12.B2A2B4.3E7.E3.5B$17.4B14.2A.B2A2.E7.E.E3.5B$17.3B18.BA.A.A.3A
3.2E4.5B$15.2AB23.A.A.A2.A8.5B$14.A.AB23.2A3.2A9.5B$14.A42.5B$13.2A
42.5B$57.5B$57.B2D2B$57.3D2B$57.2DBDB$58.3D$59.D!

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2A.A$7.2AB3A$8.B4.A$7.2A.3A$8.A.A$8.A.A$9.A!

Interesting:

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23B$7.22B$7.22B$8.19B$11.15B$12.9B.3B$13.7B3.B!

Posted: **October 7th, 2015, 1:26 pm**

Gustavo6046 wrote:Interesting: [known destructive glider+boat->wing reaction]

Interesting. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

In between building good working circuit structures -- a little oversized, maybe, but perfectly functional -- you are continuing to post random messy reactions. Confusingly, you've been labeling them as if they're actual conduits.

Some of the time you mention that a discovery is random, messy, and/or useless. But the other half the time you don't seem to know this.

Gustavo6046 wrote:I am still doing some randomness (or better, randonMESS) in Golly.
look this reaction: {eater2 destruction by a glider}...
I got a nice H-to-P reaction, though I think it will be useless...
Almost W-to-Blinker...
G-to-R:...

If you don't put in the effort to understand what everyone has told you on the last few pages of this thread, I think you will continue to be unable to make real discoveries in this area. You'll need patience and focus as well as wild hope and enthusiasm.

I would personally really appreciate it if you would learn to be very careful to use "X-to-Y" type names only when a conduit actually changes an X into a Y --

and then

-- this is the important part --

if another X comes in later at the same input location,
you have to get another Y out at the same output location.
Hand-waving and magical restoration of broken pieces is not allowed.

In other words, an X-to-Y conduit is something that you yourself could actually use in one of your LWSS-to-G or C-to-LWSS patterns.

Until you find something like that, unfortunately, your experiments are not actual conduits. Pieces of them get destroyed and are not rebuilt, and there's no realistic hope that those pieces will ever be rebuilt efficiently.

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