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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 5:27 pm

Toad-producing methuselah:

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x = 47, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
23bo$22b3o$21bo2bo$21b2o2b2o$24bo2bo$25b2o$27bo$3b2o20bo2bo$3b2o15b2o
2bo4bo$21b3o10b3o$29bo3bo2bo$27b2o$17b3o3bo2bo9bo3b3o$23bo2bo6b3o5b2o$
3o15bo4b3o15b2ob2o$16bo18bo5b3o2bo$8bobo23b2o7bo2bo$8bobo8b2o7bo5bobo
2b3ob3o$2b2o6bo6b3obo6bo5b2o2bobo2bo$2b2o3bobo6b2o3bo6bo6bo6b2o$7b3o9b
2o15b3obobo$9b2obo4bo2bo10bo5bo3bo$9bo2bo17bobo$9bo3bo16bob2o3bo$10bo
2bo17bobo3b2o$12b3ob2o3bo9b3o4b2o$16b3ob3o9b2o3b2o$16bo2bo2b2o9b5o$21b
2o11b3o$10b2o7b3o13bo$9bo2bo7bo$10b2o!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by A for awesome » March 9th, 2015, 5:29 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Two-glider destruction of mango:

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RLE
Simple 1-glider destruction that is already known:

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x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$3bo2bo$4b2o$3o$2bo$bo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by towerator » March 9th, 2015, 5:38 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Two-glider destruction of mango:

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x = 25, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
15b2o$14bo2bo$13bo2bo$14b2o7$23bo$22b2o$22bobo3$b2o$obo$2bo!
Mango to traffic light glider conversion:

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x = 41, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
40bo$38b2o$39b2o14$30bo$29bo$29b3o4$6bo$7bo$5b3o3$2bo$obo$b2o18bobo$
21b2o$22bo4$15b2o$14bo2bo$13bo2bo$14b2o7$23bo$22b2o$22bobo3$b2o$obo$2b
o!
1. why two when 1 is enough?

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x = 12, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o$9b2o$8bo2bo$7bo2bo$8b2o!
2. And why 7 when 2 are enough?

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x = 13, y = 17, rule = B3/S23
10bo$10bobo$10b2o10$2b2o$bo2bo$o2bo3b2o$b2o3b2o$8bo!
I strongly suggest you to seek to even remotely optimize your patterns before posting them... supposing they are interesting. And by this, I mean, by OUR criteras, not yours...
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 7:42 pm

Holy Cows! You discover quite fast! Never though a mango could turn into a TL in only two gliders!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by simsim314 » March 10th, 2015, 2:04 am

Three different ways to destroy mango with single glider (took me 2 minutes to find them all) + Mango->TL with two gliders:

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x = 51, y = 90, rule = B3/S23
25bo$24bo$24b3o$49bo$48bo$2b2o18b2o18b2o4b3o$bo2bo16bo2bo16bo2bo$o2bo
4b2o10bo2bo16bo2bo$b2o5bobo10b2o18b2o$8bo61$23b2o$22bo2bo$21bo2bo$22b
2o6$33b2o$33bobo$33bo6$37b2o$37bobo$37bo!

EDIT Funny enough you could produce TL from beehive as well (why in hell anyone would place there 5 gliders??):

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x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5bo$5b3o2$2b2o$bo2bo$o2bo$b2o3$12b3o$12bo$13bo!
EDIT2 Here is a task for you: find 10 more mango->TL using timed glider pairs (that means you don't need to wait for the first interaction to finish to start a second one).
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by simsim314 » March 10th, 2015, 2:09 am

Gustavo6046 wrote:Toad-producing methuselah
Gustavo toads are pretty common. And methuselahs by definition start from LOW NUMBER OF INITIAL CELLS. Here is a task for you - find 8 cells methushelah that produces 5 toads.

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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 11:05 am

Well I never seen a natural toad before in soup searches, after years(!), but now I found a way to turn a AC into an unnamed still life (who knows the next Eater 6):

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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 2.6 LOOP 8 THEME 7 ]]
#N Aircraft carrier to big snake (aka anaconda or eater line eater or Eater 6)
#o Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046), March 10 2015
#R 15 -9
#r 3/23
#C I know, maybe never going to be even a tip notable :P
x = 6, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
2b2o$obo2bo$4b2o$2bo!
Its theoretical would-be eating "animation":

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#N Eater 6 eating?
#o Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046), March 10 2015
x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3/S23
5b2o$4bo2bo$4b2obo$7bob2o$b2o4bo2bo$obo5b2o$2bo!
Stabilize!

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#N New stabilized eater siamese
#o Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046), March 10 2015
x = 7, y = 8, rule = B3/S23
2ob2o$o3bo$b3o2$b3o$o2b3o$2o4bo$5b2o!
Now I need to synthesize the snark's Farg (previously unnamed SL that was in one part of snark), as my new goal.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by simsim314 » March 10th, 2015, 11:27 am

Gustavo6046 wrote: I never seen a natural toad before in soup searches, after years
Years of what? Toads are 11-th most common object. They present in 5% of soups - that means you need to run about 20 random patterns to get a toad. See this haul just as an example.

BTW why are you posting random SLs?

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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Kazyan » March 10th, 2015, 11:41 am

That first pattern is called a "Big S". You only see them occasionally, but they show up about once per every three pulsars you'll find. It does not have any eating action we know about, nor any synthesis use that I'm aware of besides as a base for some trivially-synthesized SLs.

I don't see what the siamese thing you posted does. Welding still lifes together is not a new idea; we do it all the time when Herschel conduits would otherwise be slightly incompatible.

The main catalyst of the snark has already been synthesized by Ivan Fomichev (codeholic on this forum), and Freywa (I'm not sure which of their signature names is their real name) has already named it the Petersen--though that name is not in use; we usually just call it "the snark catalyst".
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 12:36 pm

Please help! I tried to use the following

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x = 330, y = 193, rule = B3/S23
31$281b2o$281b2o$166bo$166b3o10b2o$169bo8bo2bo$168b2o8bobobo$177b2obob
o$171bo7bobob2o$170bobob2o2b2obo2bo$166b2o2b2o8bobobob2o$166b2o9b2obob
3o2bo$178bo2bo3b2o91b2o3b2o$178bob5o$179bo4bo94bo3bo$180b4o25b2o5b2o
62b3o$182bo26b2o5bo63b3o$174bobo7bo29bobo$175b2o6b2o29b2o$175bo34b2o$
210bobo$211bo$277bo5bo$276bo5b3o$276b3o3b3o2$209b5o66b2o3b2o$207b3obob
3o64b2o3b2o$206bo4bo4bo22bo$205bob2obo2b2obo8b2o10b3o$205bobo3b2o2bo8b
o2bo8bo32bo13bo$204b2obo2bo2b2o8bobobo8b2o31bobo10bobo$202bo2bobo4bo
10bobob2o40b2o10b2o$202b2o2b2ob4o8b2obobo7bo46b2o$208bo12bo2bob2o2b2ob
obo45b3o$208bobo7b2obobobo8b2o2b2o42bobo$209b2o7bo2b3obob2o9b2o43b2o$
219b2o3bo2bo34bo$221b5obo33bo$221bo4bo34b3o$222b4o$223bo$221bo$221b2o
33b2o$201b2o50bo$120b2o8bo70bobo54bo$120b2o6b3o70bo51bo2b3o$127bo$112b
2o13b2o$113bo131b3o$113bobo122b2o5bo$114b2o5bo117bo6bo$120b3o7b2o107bo
bo$119bo2bo6bobo69b2o37b2o7b2obo$119b3o9bo69bo46bo5b2o$120bo4b2o76bo
44bo7bo$124bo2bo74b4o43b3o4bo$116bo7bo2bo73bo4bo47b2o$115bobo6bo76b5ob
o37b2o$115b2o10bo71b2o2bobobo30b2o4b2obo$134bobo61bo2b2obo2b2o9b2o18b
2o5bob2o$123bo2bo71b2obo2b2o3bo4b2o2b2o26b2o19b3o$123bo2bo74bo2bobob2o
3bobo51bo$124b2o8bo2bo63b2obo4bo4bo36bo16bo$78b2o54bo2bo65bobob2o41bob
o$78b2o54b2o67bobobo8b2o25b2o6b2o$64bo10b2o6bo3b2o115bo2bo8bo27bo$64bo
bo7b3o5bo3bobo116b2o10b3o21b3o$53b2o12b2o6b2o6b5o53b2o76bo21bo33b2o$
53b2o12b2o9b2o4b3o54bobo131bobo$67b2o9b2o61bo133bo$64bobo$64bo11bo$74b
obo$75b2o41b2o$117bobo$119bo28b3o$148bo$149bo$83bo$84bo$82b3o$110b3o$
112bo43b2o132b2o$111bo44bobo131bobo$156bo11bo121bo$166bobo$91bo61b2o9b
2o118b2o$89bobo54b3o4b2o9b2o12b2o104b2o$90b2o53b5o6b2o6b2o12b2o100b3o$
144bobo3bo5b3o7bobo113bo$92b2o50b2o3bo6b2o10bo112bo15b3o$92b2o59b2o
104b2o36bo$153b2o104bobo36bo$260b3o56b2o$261b2o55bobo$261b2o10b2o42b3o
$95b3o161bobo10bobo42b2o$97bo162bo13bo30b2o10b2o$96bo208bobo10bobo$
305bo13bo$257b2o3b2o$257b2o3b2o$316b2o3b2o$88b2o169b3o3b3o48b2o3b2o$
87bobo169b3o5bo$89bo170bo5bo45b3o3b3o$312bo5b3o$313bo5bo4$80b3o178b3o$
82bo178b3o$81bo178bo3bo51b3o$316b3o$259b2o3b2o49bo3bo2$314b2o3b2o$73b
2o$72bobo$62bo11bo$62bobo$65b2o9b2o$51b2o12b2o9b2o4b3o$51b2o12b2o6b2o
6b5o$62bobo7b3o5bo3bobo174b2o$62bo10b2o6bo3b2o174b2o$76b2o239b2o$76b2o
239b2o!
as a MWSS gun, however it doesn't work. Nevertheless, I did just added some three eaters to have atleast an period-180 oscillator (previously unknown period for an oscillator):

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x = 284, y = 191, rule = B3/S23
55$234b2o$234b2o$119bo$119b3o10b2o$122bo8bo2bo$121b2o8bobobo98bo$130b
2obobo97b3o$124bo3bo3bobob2o94bo3bo$123bobo2bob2o2bo2bo93bob3obo$119b
2o2b2o3bo4bobobob2o91b5o$119b2o9b2obo2b2o2bo$131bo2bo3b2o$131bob2ob2o$
132bo4bo$133b4o25b2o5b2o$135bo26b2o5bo63bo2b2o$137bo29bobo63bobo$136b
2o29b2o63b2o$163b2o66b2o$163bobo65b2obo$164bo67b3o$133b2o$133bobo$135b
o97b2o3b2o$135b2o99bo$162b2ob2o66bo5bo$160b3obob3o56bobo6b2ob2o$108b2o
49bo4bo4bo22bo32b2o8bobo$108bo49bobob2o2b2obo8b2o10b3o33bo9bo$106bobo
49bobo3b2o2bo8bo2bo8bo46bo$106b2o49b2obob2o2b2o8bobobo8b2o$155bo2bobo
4bo10bobob2o$155b2o2b2ob4o8b2obobo3bo3bo$161bo12bo2bo2b2obo2bobo30bo$
161bobo7b2obobobo4bo3b2o2b2o24b2o17b2o$162b2o7bo2b2o2bob2o9b2o25b2o16b
2o$172b2o3bo2bo$147b2o25b2ob2obo$148bo25bo4bo$148bobo24b4o$149b2o25bo$
174bo35bobo$174b2o34b2o$211bo$73b2o8bo$73b2o6b3o$80bo$65b2o13b2o$66bo$
66bobo122b2o$67b2o123bo$172bo19bobo$74b2o78b2o16bobo18b2o$74b2o78bo17b
2o$156bo51b2o$155b4o49b2o7bo$69bo84bo4bo56b2o$68bobo83b5obo38b2o15bobo
$68b2o82b2o4bobo30b2o6b2o$151bo2bo5b2o9b2o18b2o$151b2obobobo2bo5b2o2b
2o$77b2o75bo2bob3o4bobo$77b2o75b2obo3bo5bo36bo$29bobo58b2o64bobob2o41b
obo18b2o$29bo2bo56b2o65bobobo8b2o25b2o6b2o17b2o$14bo6bo10b2o6b2o49bo
65bo2bo8bo27bo27bo$13bobo5bo8bo3b2o4b2o116b2o10b3o21b3o$6b2o4bob2o6bo
9b2o138bo21bo$6b2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo$12bob2o5b3o2bo2bobo43b2o$13bobo7b
4o49b2o20bo$14bo9b2o49bo21b2o$97bobo3$32bo$33b2o33bo$32b2o34b2o$67bobo
35b2o132b2o$104b2o132b2o$106bo133bo3$39bobo$40b2o71b2o9bo$40bo71b4o7bo
bo121bo$107bobo2bo2b3o5b2obo119b2o$106bo2bo2b2o9b2ob2o3b2o113bobo$105b
2o9bo6b2obo4b2o$97b2o4b2o3bo8bo5bobo$97b2o6b2o10bo6bo$53bo52bo2bo102b
2o16b2o$53b2o52bobo102b2o17b2o$52bobo175bo23b2o16b2o$253b2o17b2o$255bo
2$213bo$213bo9bo$45b2o165bobo8b2o47bo$46b2o163b2ob2o6bobo37bo9bo$45bo
164bo5bo44b2o8bobo$213bo47bobo6b2ob2o$210b2o3b2o52bo5bo$272bo$269b2o3b
2o$38bo176b3o$38b2o175bob2o$37bobo177b2o49b3o$216b2o49b2obo$214bobo50b
2o$212b2o2bo51b2o$269bobo$269bo2b2o$30b2o$31b2o$30bo$213b5o$212bob3obo
$213bo3bo50b5o$12bo9b2o190b3o50bob3obo$11bobo7b4o190bo52bo3bo$10bob2o
5b3o2bo2bobo239b3o$4b2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo239bo$4b2o4bob2o6bo9b2o$11bobo
5bo8bo3b2o4b2o174b2o$12bo6bo10b2o6b2o174b2o$27bo2bo239b2o$27bobo240b2o
!
Applaud the whole new... 686P180 !
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by biggiemac » March 10th, 2015, 1:03 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote: period-180 oscillator (previously unknown period for an oscillator):
By no means is that claim true.

All oscillator periods above 43 can be realized using snarks and glider loops. The only periods that were unknown when this page was last updated (years ago) are 19, 23, 34, 38, 41:
http://entropymine.com/jason/life/status.html#oscper

Multiples of 30, being easy to construct from GGGs and simple doublers/triplers like that, are just another example of low hanging fruit that was discovered in the early 1970s.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:12 pm

biggiemac wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote: period-180 oscillator (previously unknown period for an oscillator):
By no means is that claim true.

All oscillator periods above 43 can be realized using snarks and glider loops. The only periods that were unknown when this page was last updated (years ago) are 19, 23, 34, 38, 41:
http://entropymine.com/jason/life/status.html#oscper

Multiples of 30, being easy to construct from GGGs and simple doublers/triplers like that, are just another example of low hanging fruit that was discovered in the early 1970s.
I must say it was easy, though I originally tried to do a MWSS gun -- and this don't make me stop begging for help with my gun. Also, c'mon, not in the early 1970s it would be found -- if it isn't notable, then why isn't its LifeWIki page marked for rapid deletion? Also, if it is so common and easy to do, why can't I find any in LifeWiki?
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by towerator » March 10th, 2015, 1:17 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote: I must say it was easy, though I originally tried to do a MWSS gun -- and this don't make me stop begging for help with my gun. Also, c'mon, not in the early 1970s it would be found -- if it isn't notable, then why isn't its LifeWIki page marked for rapid deletion? Also, if it is so common and easy to do, why can't I find any in LifeWiki?
First of all, do you realize you need THREE gliders to create a MWSS?
Second, That's not even an oscillatore, these are three distinct oscillators.
Third, this page is utterly useless, and I hope dvgm will delete it
Fourth, damn, stop trying to make pages for every isngle of your undiscoveries...
Fifth, there isn't a page for every variations of the HWSS on LWSS because they are easy to build and it's better to do one single page.
Sixth, for obvious reasons almost every single oscillators of this size have a different volatility.

That's CERTAINLY NOT polluting the wiki that you will attract attention. I'll request the page's deletion.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:27 pm

towerator wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote: I must say it was easy, though I originally tried to do a MWSS gun -- and this don't make me stop begging for help with my gun. Also, c'mon, not in the early 1970s it would be found -- if it isn't notable, then why isn't its LifeWIki page marked for rapid deletion? Also, if it is so common and easy to do, why can't I find any in LifeWiki?
First of all, do you realize you need THREE gliders to create a MWSS?
Second, That's not even an oscillatore, these are three distinct oscillators.
Third, this page is utterly useless, and I hope dvgm will delete it
Fourth, damn, stop trying to make pages for every isngle of your undiscoveries...
Fifth, there isn't a page for every variations of the HWSS on LWSS because they are easy to build and it's better to do one single page.
Sixth, for obvious reasons almost every single oscillators of this size have a different volatility.

That's CERTAINLY NOT polluting the wiki that you will attract attention. I'll request the page's deletion.
First, this is the only page I do in LW in much time, and I'm not doing a page for every of mine discoveries ulimately.
Second, I could easily turn it into a single oscillator... somehow.
Third, it weren't my intention if it is utterly useless, but because of each oscillator's period it is notable somehow.
Fourth, I am not doing pages for variations of the HWSS on LWSS.
Fifth, I didn't realized that almost every single oscillators of that size have a different volatility.
Also, is 1388P180 (one 686P180 variant) "three distinct oscillators"?

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x = 342, y = 283, rule = B3/S23
147b2o$147b2o2$144b3o$146bo3$155bo$154b2o$137bo16bobo$137b2o$136bobo4$
162b2o$161b2o$129b2o32bo$130b2o$129bo3$170bo$169b2o$122bo46bobo$122b2o
$121bobo4$177b2o$176b2o$114b2o62bo$115b2o$114bo3$185bo$184b2o$107bo76b
obo$107b2o$106bobo2$208b2o$208b2o$192b2o$191b2o$99b2o92bo$100b2o$99bo
3$200bo57b2o$199b2o7bo49b2o$92bo106bobo5b3o$92b2o112b5o$91bobo111b2o3b
2o$206b5o$206b5o$206bo2bo$205bo3bo48b3o$205bo51bo3bo$84b2o119bob2o$85b
2o119bo49bo5bo$84bo171b2o3b2o2$203b2o3b2o$203bo5bo49bo$257b2obo$77bo
126bo3bo51bo$77b2o126b3o48bo3bo$76bobo177bo2bo$255b5o$255b5o$254b2o3b
2o$255b5o$256b3o5bobo$69b2o135b2o49bo7b2o$70b2o134b2o57bo$69bo4$272bo$
62bo210b2o$62b2o208b2o$61bobo192b2o$256b2o4$279bobo$54b2o224b2o$55b2o
223bo$54bo3$231b2o$231b2o54bo$47bo68bo171b2o$47b2o67b3o10b2o156b2o$46b
obo70bo8bo2bo$118b2o8bobobo$127b2obobo$121bo4bo4bob2o$120bobo3b2obobo
2bo95b3o$116b2o2b2o4bo3b2o2bob2o91bo3bo60bobo$39b2o75b2o9b2o2bob2o2bo
157b2o$40b2o86bobobo2b2o91bo5bo60bo$39bo88bob5o93b2o3b2o$129bo4bo$130b
4o25b2o5b2o$132bo26b2o5bo64bo$134bo29bobo63bob2o68bo$32bo100b2o29b2o
64bo72b2o$32b2o126b2o68bo3bo67b2o$31bobo126bobo68bo2bo$161bo69b5o$130b
2o99b5o$130bobo97b2o3b2o$132bo27b3o68b5o$132b2o90bobo5b3o74bobo$24b2o
133bobobo60b2o7bo76b2o$25b2o130b3obob3o59bo84bo$24bo80b2o49bo5bo3bo22b
o$105bo49bobob2o2b2obo8b2o10b3o$11b2o90bobo49bob2o2b2o2bo8bo2bo8bo$9bo
2bo90b2o49b2o4bo2b2o8bobobo8b2o$8bo7b3o3bo129bo2bobobo2bo10bobob2o39bo
98bo$2o6bo6bo3b5o128b2o2b2ob4o8b2obo4bo4bo31b2o100b2o$2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o
133bo12bo2bobob2o3bobo31b2o98b2o$9bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o122bobo7b2obo2b2o
3bo4b2o2b2o43b2o$11b2o5b4ob2o9b2o123b2o7bo2b2obo2b2o9b2o43b2o$20b4o
145b2o2bobobo$22bo121b2o25b5obo$145bo25bo4bo$145bobo24b4o33bobo112bobo
$146b2o25bo35b2o114b2o$171bo38bo114bo$171b2o2$70b2o8bo$70b2o6b3o$77bo
254bo$62b2o13b2o254b2o$63bo268b2o$63bobo105bo16b2o$64b2o105bobo15bo$
171b2o16bobo$71b2o78b2o37b2o$71b2o78bo$153bo51b2o132bobo$152b4o49b2o
133b2o$66bo84bo4bo183bo$65bobo83b5obo38b2o18bo$65b2o82b2o3bo2bo30b2o6b
2o17b2o$148bo2b3obob2o9b2o18b2o25bobo$148b2obobobo8b2o2b2o$74b2o75bo2b
ob2o2b2obobo$74b2o75b2obobo7bo36bo136bo$25bo127bobob2o41bobo135b2o$23b
4o126bobobo8b2o25b2o6b2o134bobo$14b2o5b4ob2o9b2o50b2o63bo2bo8bo27bo28b
2o$12bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o49b2o65b2o10b3o21b3o28b2o$3b2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o62b
o78bo21bo32bo$3b2o6bo6bo3b5o$11bo7b3o3bo$12bo2bo314b2o$14b2o54b2o259b
2o$71b2o24bo232bo$27bo42bo25b2o$28b2o66bobo$27b2o2$323bo$63bo259b2o$
63b2o257bobo$62bobo39b2o132b2o$34bobo66b2o132b2o$35b2o68bo133bo$35bo$
117b2o$117bo2bo194b2o$107bo3b3o7bo194b2o$106b5o3bo6bo6b2o116bo68bo$
105b2ob2o3bo7bo6b2o115b2o$94b2o8b3ob2o3bo3bo2bo124bobo$94b2o9b2ob4o5b
2o$106b4o99b2o$107bo101b2o97bo$48bo176b2o42b2o37b2o$48b2o176b2o41b2o
36bobo$47bobo175bo27b2o$252b2o$254bo$284b2o$284b2o$218bo81b2o$40b2o
168bo7b2o81b2o$41b2o166b3o5bobo41bo38bo$40bo167b5o47b2o7bo$207b2o3b2o
46bobo5b3o$102bo105b5o29b2o23b5o$100b4o104b5o29b2o22b2o3b2o$91b2o5b4ob
2o9b2o93bo2bo54b5o21bo$33bo55bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o93bo3bo53b5o13bo7b2o$
33b2o45b2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o108bo53bo2bo13b3o5bobo$32bobo45b2o6bo6bo3b5o
106b2obo52bo3bo12b5o$88bo7b3o3bo109bo53bo15b2o3b2o$89bo2bo173bob2o13b
5o$91b2o148b3o23bo15b5o$209b2o3b2o24bo3bo39bo2bo$104bo104bo5bo68bo3bo$
25b2o78b2o132bo5bo18b2o3b2o17bo$26b2o76b2o104bo3bo24b2o3b2o18bo5bo14b
2obo$25bo185b3o73bo$265bo3bo$12b2o228bo23b3o$10bo2bo227bob2o39b2o3b2o$
9bo7b3o3bo217bo42bo5bo$b2o6bo6bo3b5o86bobo127bo3bo$b2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o86b
2o128bo2bo39bo3bo$10bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o75bo98b2o29b5o39b3o$12b2o5b4ob
2o9b2o174b2o29b5o$21b4o216b2o3b2o19b2o$23bo218b5o20b2o$235bobo5b3o$
119bo115b2o7bo$120b2o114bo$119b2o165b2o$286b2o3$229bo$227b2o$126bobo
99b2o$127b2o115b2o$127bo116b2o4$220bobo$134bo85b2o$135b2o84bo$134b2o4$
214bo$212b2o$141bobo69b2o$142b2o$142bo4$205bobo$149bo55b2o$150b2o54bo$
149b2o4$199bo$197b2o$156bobo39b2o$157b2o$157bo4$190bobo$164bo25b2o$
165b2o24bo$164b2o4$184bo$182b2o$171bobo9b2o$172b2o$172bo!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by biggiemac » March 10th, 2015, 1:32 pm

For what it's worth, here you are Gustavo: an unoptimized MWSS p180 gun. Observe that it produces a MWSS from a three glider collision, which can be found in the MWSS page of the wiki under "glider synthesis". I also used a much smaller p180 variant of the GGG included in a collection of guns discovered a long time ago.

I make no claim with this post to be a discoverer of any new gun or anything, and I am confident that if I looked through the patterns released with Golly that some more clever p30n MWSS gun would have already been created, but I wanted to help you see how such a thing could be built.

Also, LifeWiki has a page called "Omniperiodic" that gives the same information about which periods are unknown. Explicit p180, (or p30n for other n) oscillators are not considered notable enough for their own LifeWiki page; maaybe there is an exception if they have a completely different underlying mechanism than the Queen bee shuttle or PDs.

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x = 88, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
27bo$25b4o$16b2o5b4ob2o9b2o$14bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o$5b2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o$5b
2o6bo6bo3b5o$13bo7b3o3bo$14bo2bo$16b2o2$29bo$30b2o$29b2o4$22b2o$22b2o
12bo$35bobobob2o$36b2ob2obo5$10bobo$8bo3bo5b3o$b2o5bo7bobo2bo2b2o$b2o
4bo4bo7b2o2bo2bo$8bo19bo$8bo3bo2b3o10bo6b2o7bo$10bobo15bo6b2o8bo$24bo
2bo15b3o$24b2o2$46b3o4b2o$48bo3b2o$47bo6bo$25b2o$25b2o$11bo10b2o6bo3b
2o$11bobo7b3o5bo3bobo32b2o$14b2o6b2o6b5o34bo$2o12b2o9b2o4b3o34bo15b2o$
2o12b2o9b2o41b2o14b2o$11bobo$11bo11bo44b2o$21bobo33b2o9bobo$22b2o33b2o
10bo14bo$72b2o9b3o$58bo13bobo7bo3bo$35b2ob2obo15bobo12bo8bob3obo$34bob
obob2o15bobo22b5o$21b2o10b3o22bo$21b2o9b3o$33b2o$32bo22b2obob2o$55bo5b
o17b3o$56bo3bo18bo$57b3o3bo16bo$63b2o5b2o$25bo36bobo5b2o$13b2o10b2o$6b
3o4b2o9bobo$5b5o6b2o12b2o$4bobo3bo5b3o10bo3bo$4b2o3bo6b2o10bo5bo46b3o$
13b2o13bo3bob2o2b2o20bo19bo3bo$13b2o13bo5bo3b2o20bo18bo5bo$29bo3bo25bo
bo17b2obob2o$30b2o26b2ob2o$57bo5bo$60bo21bo$57b2o3b2o17bobo$81bobo$82b
o$59bo$59bo22b2o$58bo23b2o3$60b2o$60b2o!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:34 pm

biggiemac wrote:For what it's worth, here you are Gustavo: an unoptimized MWSS p180 gun. Observe that it produces a MWSS from a three glider collision, which can be found in the MWSS page of the wiki under "glider synthesis". I also used a much smaller p180 variant of the GGG included in a collection of guns discovered a long time ago.

I make no claim with this post to be a discoverer of any new gun or anything, and I am confident that if I looked through the patterns released with Golly that some more clever p30n MWSS gun would have already been created, but I wanted to help you see how such a thing could be built.

Also, LifeWiki has a page called "Omniperiodic" that gives the same information about which periods are unknown. Explicit p180, (or p30n for other n) oscillators are not considered notable enough for their own LifeWiki page; maaybe there is an exception if they have a completely different underlying mechanism than the Queen bee shuttle or PDs.

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x = 88, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
27bo$25b4o$16b2o5b4ob2o9b2o$14bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o8b2o$5b2o6bo7bo3b2ob2o$5b
2o6bo6bo3b5o$13bo7b3o3bo$14bo2bo$16b2o2$29bo$30b2o$29b2o4$22b2o$22b2o
12bo$35bobobob2o$36b2ob2obo5$10bobo$8bo3bo5b3o$b2o5bo7bobo2bo2b2o$b2o
4bo4bo7b2o2bo2bo$8bo19bo$8bo3bo2b3o10bo6b2o7bo$10bobo15bo6b2o8bo$24bo
2bo15b3o$24b2o2$46b3o4b2o$48bo3b2o$47bo6bo$25b2o$25b2o$11bo10b2o6bo3b
2o$11bobo7b3o5bo3bobo32b2o$14b2o6b2o6b5o34bo$2o12b2o9b2o4b3o34bo15b2o$
2o12b2o9b2o41b2o14b2o$11bobo$11bo11bo44b2o$21bobo33b2o9bobo$22b2o33b2o
10bo14bo$72b2o9b3o$58bo13bobo7bo3bo$35b2ob2obo15bobo12bo8bob3obo$34bob
obob2o15bobo22b5o$21b2o10b3o22bo$21b2o9b3o$33b2o$32bo22b2obob2o$55bo5b
o17b3o$56bo3bo18bo$57b3o3bo16bo$63b2o5b2o$25bo36bobo5b2o$13b2o10b2o$6b
3o4b2o9bobo$5b5o6b2o12b2o$4bobo3bo5b3o10bo3bo$4b2o3bo6b2o10bo5bo46b3o$
13b2o13bo3bob2o2b2o20bo19bo3bo$13b2o13bo5bo3b2o20bo18bo5bo$29bo3bo25bo
bo17b2obob2o$30b2o26b2ob2o$57bo5bo$60bo21bo$57b2o3b2o17bobo$81bobo$82b
o$59bo$59bo22b2o$58bo23b2o3$60b2o$60b2o!
Thank you, so freaking much! Wait, which is your real name? I could even turn your gun into a p180 (what?!! shouldn't it have bigger period?!!! >:( ) oscillator:

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x = 216, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
28bobo$28bo2bo$13bo6bo10b2o6b2o$12bobo5bo8bo3b2o4b2o$5b2o4bob2o6bo9b2o
$5b2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo$11bob2o5b3o2bo2bobo$12bobo7b4o$13bo9b2o4$31bo$
32b2o$31b2o2$22b2o$22b2o12bo$35bobobob2o$36b2ob2obo5$10b2o9b2o$10bobo
7bobo$b2o2b2o6bo8bo5bo$b2obo2bo2bo2bo13bobo$5b2o6bo13b2obo$10bobo14b2o
b2o3b2o$10b2o15b2obo4b2o103bo$27bobo19bo2bo85bo3bo$28bo24bo89bo$48bo4b
o84bo4bo$49b5o85b5o$212b2o$212bobo$22bo191bo$21bobo190b2o$11b2o6b2o3bo
9b2o$10bobo4b2obo3bo9b2o32b2o$9b3o4b3obo3bo44bo$2o6b3o4bo2b2obobo44bo
15b2o$2o7b3o4b2o4bo45b2o13bobo$10bobo69b3o$11b2o69b2o$57b2o9b2o12b2o$
25bo31b2o24bobo$23bobo44b2o12bo$24b2o$38b2obo$38bob2o39b2o3b2o$21b2o
58b2o3b2o$21b2o$77b3o3b3o$77bo5b3o$65bo12bo5bo$55b2o3b2o3b2o$27bo36bob
o$27b2o27bo3bo9b2o$26bobo28b3o10b2o$17bo39b3o$16bobo62b3o$15bo3b2o8bo
51b3o$4b2o9bo3b2o5b4o4bo25bo19bo3bo$4b2o9bo3b2o4b4o5bo24b3o$16bobo6bo
2bo9b2o18bo3bo16b2o3b2o$17bo7b4o9b2o20bo$26b4o27bo5bo$29bo27bo5bo$58bo
3bo$59b3o5$82b2o$82b2o3$60b2o$60b2o!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by towerator » March 10th, 2015, 1:39 pm

As a feat, I decided to separate every oscillators in the second pattern you posted. And there are no less than six of them:

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x = 736, y = 475, rule = B3/S23
442b2o135b2o$441bobo135b2o$427bo12b3o4b2ob3o$427b4o8b3o4bo2b4o$417b2o
9b4o8b3o4b2o$417b2o9bo2bo9bobo133b2o$422bo5b4o10b2o$422bo4b4o8bo$427bo
12bo$438b3o$576b2o3b2o$577b5o$577b2ob2o$577b2ob2o$578b3o$447bo$445bobo
$446b2o4$575bo$454bo120bobo3bo$455bo119b2o3b3o$453b3o123b5o$578bobobob
o$578b2o3b2o2$568bo$567bo13bo$462bo104b3o10bobo$460bobo117bobo$461b2o
118bo$581b2o$581b2o$581b2o$560bo$469bo90bobo$470bo89b2o$468b3o4$553bo$
552bo$477bo74b3o$475bobo$476b2o4$545bo$484bo60bobo$485bo59b2o$483b3o4$
538bo$537bo$492bo44b3o$490bobo$491b2o4$530bo$499bo30bobo$500bo29b2o$
498b3o2$291b2o$290bo2bo$290bobobo228bo$289b2obobo227bo$288bo2bobob2o
210bo14b3o$287b3o3bo2bo208bobo$288bo2bobo2bob2o206b2o$289b2o4b2o2bo$
290bobo4b2o216b2o$290bobobobo217bo2bo$291bo4bo220bo$292b4o216bo4bo$
294bo221bo$296bo215bo2b2o$295b2o9$149b3o$149bo$141b3o6bo$143bo$142bo3$
157b2o$157bobo$134b2o21bo$133bobo$135bo$694b2o$694b2o2$164b3o239bo$
164bo239b3o$126b3o36bo237bo288b2o$128bo256b2o8bo7b2o$127bo257b2o6b3o$
392bo$377b2o13b2o$172b2o204bo312b2o3b2o$172bobo203bobo311b5o$119b2o51b
o206b2o311b2ob2o$118bobo265b2o304b2ob2o$120bo262b2ob2o6b3o296b3o$385bo
5bo4bo$391bo3bo$390bo$179b3o199bo7bo3bo$179bo200bobo6bob2o$111b3o66bo
199b2o8bo$113bo282bo2b2o289bo$112bo276b2o9bo289bobo3bo$388bo2bo4bo4bo
288b2o3b3o$389b2o10bo292b5o$187b2o154b2o53bo2bo291bobobobo$187bobo152b
obo54b2o292b2o3b2o$104b2o81bo140bo12b3o4b2ob3o298bo$103bobo102b2o118b
4o8b3o4bo2b4o284b2o10b3o30bo$105bo102b2o108b2o9b4o8b3o4b2o287bo2bo8bo
32bo13bo$208b2o108b2o9bo2bo9bobo61b3o227bobobo8b2o31b3o10bobo$208bo
114bo5b4o10b2o61bo229bobob2o53bobo$207bobo113bo4b4o8bo66bo126b2o5b2o
91b2obobo2bo4bo48bo$194b3o10bobo118bo12bo192b2o5bo92bo2bo3b3o2bobo47b
2o$194bo13bo130b3o197bobo89b2obo2bobo2bo4b2o2b2o43b2o$96b3o96bo343b2o
90bo2b2o4b2o9b2o43b2o$98bo283b3o150b2o95b2o4bobo34bo$97bo107b2o3b2o
172bo29b2o119bobo69b2o25bobobobo34bobo$205bobobobo171bo30bobo119bo71bo
25bo4bo35b2o$206b5o203bo193bobo24b4o$202b2o3b3o138bo187bo72b2o25bo$
202bobo3bo137bobo187bo97bo$89b2o111bo144b2o285b2o$88bobo284b2o157bo3bo
129b3o$90bo283bobo155b3obob3o73b3o49b2o3bo$376bo44b3o107bo4b2o3bo72bo
51bo4bo$421bo12bo95bobob2o2b2obo73bo54bo$355bo66bo8b4o4bo90bob2o2b2o2b
o$356bo61b2o10b4o5bo89b2obob2o2b2o119b2o5bobo$205b3o146b3o61bobo9bo2bo
9b2o82bo2bobobo2bo113b2o6bobo$81b3o120b2ob2o204b2o4b3o8b4o9b2o82b2o2b
2ob4o114bo6bo$83bo120b2ob2o200b4o2bo4b3o8b4o98bo118bobo8bo$82bo121b5o
148b2o50b3ob2o4b3o12bo98bobo78b2o37b2o9bo$203b2o3b2o147b2o59bobo113b2o
78bo45b2o2bo3bo$418b2o196bo45bo2bobobo$615b4o44b2o2bobo$614bo4bo48bo$
74b2o538b5obo37b2o$73bobo128b2o154b2o250b2o6bo30b2o5b2o$75bo283bobo
249bo2bobobob2o9b2o18b2o7bo$361bo249b2obobobo2bo5b2o2b2o26bo21b2o$614b
o2bob2o5bobo30bo21bobo$206b2o406b2obo3bo5bo36bo16bo$206b2o408bobob2o
41bobo$616bobobo8b2o25b2o6b2o$66b3o548bo2bo8bo27bo$68bo283b3o263b2o10b
3o21b3o$67bo286bo277bo21bo$353bo334b3o$688bo$689bo2$59b2o$58bobo284b2o
$60bo283bobo$346bo5$51b3o$53bo283b3o$52bo273bo12bo$321bo4b4o8bo364b3o$
321bo5b4o10b2o360bo$316b2o9bo2bo9bobo361bo$316b2o9b4o8b3o4b2o349b2o$
44b2o280b4o8b3o4bo2b4o345b2o$43bobo280bo12b3o4b2ob3o341b2o$45bo294bobo
349bobo$341b2o351bo16b2o$672b2o37bobo$672b2o37bo$672b2o58b2o$673bo58b
2o$36b3o633bobo57b2o$38bo633bobo10b3o44bo$37bo635bo13bo43bobo$686bo31b
3o10bobo$718bo13bo$670b2o3b2o42bo$670bobobobo$29b2o640b5o53b2o3b2o$28b
obo641b3o3b2o49bobobobo$30bo642bo3bobo50b5o$679bo46b2o3b3o$726bobo3bo$
726bo3$21b3o$10bo12bo$5bo4b4o8bo651b3o$5bo5b4o10b2o646b2ob2o$2o9bo2bo
9bobo646b2ob2o51b3o$2o9b4o8b3o4b2o641b5o50b2ob2o$10b4o8b3o4bo2b4o636b
2o3b2o49b2ob2o$10bo12b3o4b2ob3o692b5o$24bobo700b2o3b2o$25b2o2$676b2o2$
728b2o2$674b2o$674b2o$730b2o$730b2o62$402b2o$402b2o4$404b2o5$400b2o3b
2o$401b5o$401b2ob2o$401b2ob2o$402b3o7$407bo$401bo3bobo$400b3o3b2o$399b
5o$398bobobobo$398b2o3b2o2$414bo$401bo13bo$400bobo10b3o$400bobo$401bo$
400b2o$400b2o$400b2o$422bo$420bobo$421b2o5$429bo$430bo$428b3o6$437bo$
435bobo$436b2o5$444bo$445bo$443b3o6$452bo$450bobo$451b2o5$459bo$460bo$
458b3o6$467bo$465bobo$466b2o5$474bo$475bo$473b3o6$482bo$480bobo$481b2o
12$479b2o$478bobo$480bo6$471b3o$473bo$472bo5$464b2o$463bobo$465bo6$
456b3o$458bo$457bo5$449b2o$448bobo$450bo$428b2o$428b2o$428b2o$429bo$
428bobo$428bobo10b3o$429bo13bo$442bo2$426b2o3b2o$426bobobobo$427b5o$
428b3o3b2o$429bo3bobo$435bo7$430b3o$429b2ob2o$429b2ob2o$429b5o$428b2o
3b2o5$432b2o4$430b2o$430b2o!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:45 pm

towerator wrote:As a feat, I decided to separate every oscillators in the second pattern you posted. And there are no less than six of them:

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x = 736, y = 475, rule = B3/S23
442b2o135b2o$441bobo135b2o$427bo12b3o4b2ob3o$427b4o8b3o4bo2b4o$417b2o
9b4o8b3o4b2o$417b2o9bo2bo9bobo133b2o$422bo5b4o10b2o$422bo4b4o8bo$427bo
12bo$438b3o$576b2o3b2o$577b5o$577b2ob2o$577b2ob2o$578b3o$447bo$445bobo
$446b2o4$575bo$454bo120bobo3bo$455bo119b2o3b3o$453b3o123b5o$578bobobob
o$578b2o3b2o2$568bo$567bo13bo$462bo104b3o10bobo$460bobo117bobo$461b2o
118bo$581b2o$581b2o$581b2o$560bo$469bo90bobo$470bo89b2o$468b3o4$553bo$
552bo$477bo74b3o$475bobo$476b2o4$545bo$484bo60bobo$485bo59b2o$483b3o4$
538bo$537bo$492bo44b3o$490bobo$491b2o4$530bo$499bo30bobo$500bo29b2o$
498b3o2$291b2o$290bo2bo$290bobobo228bo$289b2obobo227bo$288bo2bobob2o
210bo14b3o$287b3o3bo2bo208bobo$288bo2bobo2bob2o206b2o$289b2o4b2o2bo$
290bobo4b2o216b2o$290bobobobo217bo2bo$291bo4bo220bo$292b4o216bo4bo$
294bo221bo$296bo215bo2b2o$295b2o9$149b3o$149bo$141b3o6bo$143bo$142bo3$
157b2o$157bobo$134b2o21bo$133bobo$135bo$694b2o$694b2o2$164b3o239bo$
164bo239b3o$126b3o36bo237bo288b2o$128bo256b2o8bo7b2o$127bo257b2o6b3o$
392bo$377b2o13b2o$172b2o204bo312b2o3b2o$172bobo203bobo311b5o$119b2o51b
o206b2o311b2ob2o$118bobo265b2o304b2ob2o$120bo262b2ob2o6b3o296b3o$385bo
5bo4bo$391bo3bo$390bo$179b3o199bo7bo3bo$179bo200bobo6bob2o$111b3o66bo
199b2o8bo$113bo282bo2b2o289bo$112bo276b2o9bo289bobo3bo$388bo2bo4bo4bo
288b2o3b3o$389b2o10bo292b5o$187b2o154b2o53bo2bo291bobobobo$187bobo152b
obo54b2o292b2o3b2o$104b2o81bo140bo12b3o4b2ob3o298bo$103bobo102b2o118b
4o8b3o4bo2b4o284b2o10b3o30bo$105bo102b2o108b2o9b4o8b3o4b2o287bo2bo8bo
32bo13bo$208b2o108b2o9bo2bo9bobo61b3o227bobobo8b2o31b3o10bobo$208bo
114bo5b4o10b2o61bo229bobob2o53bobo$207bobo113bo4b4o8bo66bo126b2o5b2o
91b2obobo2bo4bo48bo$194b3o10bobo118bo12bo192b2o5bo92bo2bo3b3o2bobo47b
2o$194bo13bo130b3o197bobo89b2obo2bobo2bo4b2o2b2o43b2o$96b3o96bo343b2o
90bo2b2o4b2o9b2o43b2o$98bo283b3o150b2o95b2o4bobo34bo$97bo107b2o3b2o
172bo29b2o119bobo69b2o25bobobobo34bobo$205bobobobo171bo30bobo119bo71bo
25bo4bo35b2o$206b5o203bo193bobo24b4o$202b2o3b3o138bo187bo72b2o25bo$
202bobo3bo137bobo187bo97bo$89b2o111bo144b2o285b2o$88bobo284b2o157bo3bo
129b3o$90bo283bobo155b3obob3o73b3o49b2o3bo$376bo44b3o107bo4b2o3bo72bo
51bo4bo$421bo12bo95bobob2o2b2obo73bo54bo$355bo66bo8b4o4bo90bob2o2b2o2b
o$356bo61b2o10b4o5bo89b2obob2o2b2o119b2o5bobo$205b3o146b3o61bobo9bo2bo
9b2o82bo2bobobo2bo113b2o6bobo$81b3o120b2ob2o204b2o4b3o8b4o9b2o82b2o2b
2ob4o114bo6bo$83bo120b2ob2o200b4o2bo4b3o8b4o98bo118bobo8bo$82bo121b5o
148b2o50b3ob2o4b3o12bo98bobo78b2o37b2o9bo$203b2o3b2o147b2o59bobo113b2o
78bo45b2o2bo3bo$418b2o196bo45bo2bobobo$615b4o44b2o2bobo$614bo4bo48bo$
74b2o538b5obo37b2o$73bobo128b2o154b2o250b2o6bo30b2o5b2o$75bo283bobo
249bo2bobobob2o9b2o18b2o7bo$361bo249b2obobobo2bo5b2o2b2o26bo21b2o$614b
o2bob2o5bobo30bo21bobo$206b2o406b2obo3bo5bo36bo16bo$206b2o408bobob2o
41bobo$616bobobo8b2o25b2o6b2o$66b3o548bo2bo8bo27bo$68bo283b3o263b2o10b
3o21b3o$67bo286bo277bo21bo$353bo334b3o$688bo$689bo2$59b2o$58bobo284b2o
$60bo283bobo$346bo5$51b3o$53bo283b3o$52bo273bo12bo$321bo4b4o8bo364b3o$
321bo5b4o10b2o360bo$316b2o9bo2bo9bobo361bo$316b2o9b4o8b3o4b2o349b2o$
44b2o280b4o8b3o4bo2b4o345b2o$43bobo280bo12b3o4b2ob3o341b2o$45bo294bobo
349bobo$341b2o351bo16b2o$672b2o37bobo$672b2o37bo$672b2o58b2o$673bo58b
2o$36b3o633bobo57b2o$38bo633bobo10b3o44bo$37bo635bo13bo43bobo$686bo31b
3o10bobo$718bo13bo$670b2o3b2o42bo$670bobobobo$29b2o640b5o53b2o3b2o$28b
obo641b3o3b2o49bobobobo$30bo642bo3bobo50b5o$679bo46b2o3b3o$726bobo3bo$
726bo3$21b3o$10bo12bo$5bo4b4o8bo651b3o$5bo5b4o10b2o646b2ob2o$2o9bo2bo
9bobo646b2ob2o51b3o$2o9b4o8b3o4b2o641b5o50b2ob2o$10b4o8b3o4bo2b4o636b
2o3b2o49b2ob2o$10bo12b3o4b2ob3o692b5o$24bobo700b2o3b2o$25b2o2$676b2o2$
728b2o2$674b2o$674b2o$730b2o$730b2o62$402b2o$402b2o4$404b2o5$400b2o3b
2o$401b5o$401b2ob2o$401b2ob2o$402b3o7$407bo$401bo3bobo$400b3o3b2o$399b
5o$398bobobobo$398b2o3b2o2$414bo$401bo13bo$400bobo10b3o$400bobo$401bo$
400b2o$400b2o$400b2o$422bo$420bobo$421b2o5$429bo$430bo$428b3o6$437bo$
435bobo$436b2o5$444bo$445bo$443b3o6$452bo$450bobo$451b2o5$459bo$460bo$
458b3o6$467bo$465bobo$466b2o5$474bo$475bo$473b3o6$482bo$480bobo$481b2o
12$479b2o$478bobo$480bo6$471b3o$473bo$472bo5$464b2o$463bobo$465bo6$
456b3o$458bo$457bo5$449b2o$448bobo$450bo$428b2o$428b2o$428b2o$429bo$
428bobo$428bobo10b3o$429bo13bo$442bo2$426b2o3b2o$426bobobobo$427b5o$
428b3o3b2o$429bo3bobo$435bo7$430b3o$429b2ob2o$429b2ob2o$429b5o$428b2o
3b2o5$432b2o4$430b2o$430b2o!
But the bounding boxes interpolate and (maybe) truncate between themselves, meaning it is officially and technically considered one single oscillator! In special the southwest stream which almost cross the southwest 180p gun and pipsquirt kit!
And why did you separated the pipsquirters? Shouldn't they be the reflectors (and technically not independent oscillators)??
Also, you didn't told me your (real) name.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by towerator » March 10th, 2015, 1:47 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote: But the bounding boxes interpolate and (maybe) truncate between themselves, meaning it is considered one single oscillator!
That's NOT a criteria to define an oscillator.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:53 pm

Forget, let me delete ALL the groups, file & page I had to create... no, I'm way too lazy :P I need now some way to turn a glider into two.
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by towerator » March 10th, 2015, 1:55 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Forget, let me delete ALL the groups, file & page I had to create... no, I'm way too lazy :P I need now some way to turn a glider into two.
This pattern is in golly.
Meet the heisenburp.

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x = 139, y = 157, rule = B3/S23
48b2o$47bobo$46b3o$46b2o$46b2o$47bobo$48bo3$45b2o3b2o$45b2o3b2o2$47b3o
$47b3o$48bo6b2o23b2o$56bo22bobo$56bobo5bobo11bo6b2o$57b2o5bo2bo10bo2bo
2bo2bo6b2o$67b2o9bo6b2o6b3o$65bo3b2o8bobo8bob2o15bo$50bo16b2o11b2o8bo
2bo8b3o4bobo$51b2o11bo2bo8bo13bob2o16bobo$50b2o12bobo10b2o14b3o2b2o2bo
7bo2bo3b2o$76b2o16b2o2bo3bo7bobo4b2o$45b3o51bo2bo6bobo$44bo3bo50b2o8bo
$43bo5bo$43bo5bo$46bo10bobo14b2o$43bo4bo9b2o14b2o7bobo5bo46bo$47bo10bo
25b2o5bobo42b3o$46bo37bo6b2o42bo$42bo92b2o$42bobo$43bo$133bo$77b2o5bo
46b2ob2o$78bo4bo$50b2o23b3o5b3o44bo5bo$49bobo23bo29b2o$40b2o3b2o4bo10b
2o41bo24b2obob2o$42b3o17bobo29bobo6bobo$41bo3bo18bo28bo2bo6b2o$42bobo
9b2o8b2o26b2o41bo$43bo10b2o28b2o4b2o3bo36bo2bo$84b2o6b2o41bo$44b3o18bo
27bo2bo34b2o$44b3o18b3o26bobo34bo$68bo54b2o6bobo$67b2o19b2o23b2o8b2o7b
2o$80bo7b2o24bo$42b2o3b2o32b2o31bobo$43b5o32b2o33b2o15b2o3b2o$44b3o63b
2o20bo5bo$45bo24bo38b2o14bo$69b3o39bo8bo4bobo5bo3bo$69b3o47b3o3b2o7b3o
$107bo10b2o2bo$67b2o3b2o31b3o10b2ob2o$67b2o3b2o30bo16b3o$82bo3bo17b2o
13bob2o$83b2obobo29bo2bo$45b2o23bo11b2o2b2o33bo$45b2o22bobo46bobo$71b
2o46bo$71b2o$70b3o26b2o3b2o$69bobo27b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o$69b2o54b2o3b5o$
101b3o20b2o4b2ob2o$101b3o22bo3b2ob2o$102bo28b3o5$129b3o$129b3o$128bo3b
o$127bo5bo$128bo3bo$99b3o27b3o$98bo3bo$97bo5bo$97bo5bo$100bo$97bo4bo$
68b3o30bo$70bo29bo$69bo26bo$96bobo$97bo31b2o$129b2o3$104b2o$103bobo3b
2o$94b2o3b2o4bo3b2o5b2o$96b3o17bobo$95bo3bo18bo$96bobo9b2o8b2o$97bo10b
2o2$98b3o$98b3o4$96b2o3b2o$46b2o49b5o$45bobo50b3o$47bo51bo8$99b2o$99b
2o34$b2o$obo$2bo!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 1:59 pm

towerator wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote:Forget, let me delete ALL the groups, file & page I had to create... no, I'm way too lazy :P I need now some way to turn a glider into two.
This pattern is in golly.
Meet the heisenburp.

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x = 139, y = 157, rule = B3/S23
48b2o$47bobo$46b3o$46b2o$46b2o$47bobo$48bo3$45b2o3b2o$45b2o3b2o2$47b3o
$47b3o$48bo6b2o23b2o$56bo22bobo$56bobo5bobo11bo6b2o$57b2o5bo2bo10bo2bo
2bo2bo6b2o$67b2o9bo6b2o6b3o$65bo3b2o8bobo8bob2o15bo$50bo16b2o11b2o8bo
2bo8b3o4bobo$51b2o11bo2bo8bo13bob2o16bobo$50b2o12bobo10b2o14b3o2b2o2bo
7bo2bo3b2o$76b2o16b2o2bo3bo7bobo4b2o$45b3o51bo2bo6bobo$44bo3bo50b2o8bo
$43bo5bo$43bo5bo$46bo10bobo14b2o$43bo4bo9b2o14b2o7bobo5bo46bo$47bo10bo
25b2o5bobo42b3o$46bo37bo6b2o42bo$42bo92b2o$42bobo$43bo$133bo$77b2o5bo
46b2ob2o$78bo4bo$50b2o23b3o5b3o44bo5bo$49bobo23bo29b2o$40b2o3b2o4bo10b
2o41bo24b2obob2o$42b3o17bobo29bobo6bobo$41bo3bo18bo28bo2bo6b2o$42bobo
9b2o8b2o26b2o41bo$43bo10b2o28b2o4b2o3bo36bo2bo$84b2o6b2o41bo$44b3o18bo
27bo2bo34b2o$44b3o18b3o26bobo34bo$68bo54b2o6bobo$67b2o19b2o23b2o8b2o7b
2o$80bo7b2o24bo$42b2o3b2o32b2o31bobo$43b5o32b2o33b2o15b2o3b2o$44b3o63b
2o20bo5bo$45bo24bo38b2o14bo$69b3o39bo8bo4bobo5bo3bo$69b3o47b3o3b2o7b3o
$107bo10b2o2bo$67b2o3b2o31b3o10b2ob2o$67b2o3b2o30bo16b3o$82bo3bo17b2o
13bob2o$83b2obobo29bo2bo$45b2o23bo11b2o2b2o33bo$45b2o22bobo46bobo$71b
2o46bo$71b2o$70b3o26b2o3b2o$69bobo27b2o3b2o23b2o3b2o$69b2o54b2o3b5o$
101b3o20b2o4b2ob2o$101b3o22bo3b2ob2o$102bo28b3o5$129b3o$129b3o$128bo3b
o$127bo5bo$128bo3bo$99b3o27b3o$98bo3bo$97bo5bo$97bo5bo$100bo$97bo4bo$
68b3o30bo$70bo29bo$69bo26bo$96bobo$97bo31b2o$129b2o3$104b2o$103bobo3b
2o$94b2o3b2o4bo3b2o5b2o$96b3o17bobo$95bo3bo18bo$96bobo9b2o8b2o$97bo10b
2o2$98b3o$98b3o4$96b2o3b2o$46b2o49b5o$45bobo50b3o$47bo51bo8$99b2o$99b
2o34$b2o$obo$2bo!
I like it, but i would rather need a multitude of snarks and/or pipsquirters to reflect these into a single line... maybe even impossible! I meant something that accepted one single glider and emitted output two PARALEL gliders!
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Kazyan » March 10th, 2015, 2:01 pm

For two output parallel gliders, how far apart do they need to be? (There's a way to do it with Herschels and edge-shooters, but it might be overkill.)
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by Gustavo6046 » March 10th, 2015, 2:05 pm

Kazyan wrote:For two output parallel gliders, how far apart do they need to be? (There's a way to do it with Herschels and edge-shooters, but it might be overkill.)
12 so that both can be reflected by pipsquirters (they have smaller period, bilateral size & repeat time than Snarks, even if it is unstable, also I know it has period 6, but MMC(6, 4) = 180, in which 6 is pipsquirter repeat time & 4 is glider period)).
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Re: Gustavo Ramos Rehermann's patterns

Post by mniemiec » March 10th, 2015, 2:06 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:But the bounding boxes interpolate and (maybe) truncate between themselves, meaning it is officially and technically considered one single oscillator!
No, it doesn't. An oscillator must, first of all, be a single object, where all living cells are either adjacent to the others, or interact with the others. If you consider a Life pattern as a 3-dimensional structure, with time as the third dimension, guns resemble vertical poles (guns) with diagonal fingers (gliders) coming out of them. Two interacting guns will have fingers that touch each other. In all objects, each cell in an object must be reachable by touching or interacting with another cell in the object, either through space or through time. In your examples, you have several distinct objects that do not interact with each other in any way. Bounding boxes do not matter. Even sparse non-interacting glider streams would not count, because in 3 dimensions, their "fingers" would be passing between each other without touching.

While I admire your enthusiasm, you should try to listen to the advice of those who have been playing with Life for a long time and have had much more experience (for example, I was first exposed to it in 1970, and have been playing with it off and on for 45 years now.)

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