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Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 9:41 am
by Sarah
Just a p4 c spaceship
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B2/S0
obo$3bo$bo3bo$o4bo$4bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 10:02 am
by praosylen
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 9:36 am
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 9:33 am
I'm not sure about this one, but
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x = 6, y = 8, rule = B2/S0
2b2o$bo2bo$o4bo$bo2bo$bo2bo3$o4bo!
That one is known. Please look through the forums a little before posting. Two of these one evolves from a domino:
The ones that evolve from a domino are actually slightly different. Your ship
is known, though — for example, here's a
rake for it.
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 9:41 am
Just a p4 c spaceship
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B2/S0
obo$3bo$bo3bo$o4bo$4bo!
I would
imagine this ship is known, given how small it is, but I don't know how to check. Sadly the main place where patterns in this rule were kept was a wiki on Wikispaces, which is defunct now, so the only person I know of who has access to the information is Luke Bradford (who maintained the wiki), who hasn't visited the forums since 2016. (There might be pattern collections floating around elsewhere on the internet, and if anyone knows of them, please do share.) I think generally most small ships and oscillators (and usually puffers too) will be known, but please don't let that stop you from exploring the rule!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 10:05 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
A for awesome wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 10:02 am
The ones that evolve from a domino are actually slightly different. Your ship
is known, though — for example, here's a
rake for it.
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 9:41 am
Just a p4 c spaceship
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 5, rule = B2/S0
obo$3bo$bo3bo$o4bo$4bo!
I would
imagine this ship is known, given how small it is, but I don't know how to check. Sadly the main place where patterns in this rule were kept was a wiki on Wikispaces, which is defunct now, so the only person I know of who has access to the information is Luke Bradford (who maintained the wiki), who hasn't visited the forums since 2016. (There might be pattern collections floating around elsewhere on the internet, and if anyone knows of them, please do share.) I think generally most small ships and oscillators (and usually puffers too) will be known, but please don't let that stop you from exploring the rule!
Sorry they look very similar - the sparks and everything. Who is Luke Bradford? What's his username?
Edit: The username is lukebradford, it's in the link you sent.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 10:11 am
by praosylen
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 10:05 am
Sorry they look very similar - the sparks and everything. Who is Luke Bradford? What's his username?
His username is just lukebradford — he posted a bunch on the first few pages of this thread.
(Looking back through the thread, it looks like I was wrong, there are still some archived pattern collections
here, although they aren't up to date and I'm not sure how complete they are.)
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 12:12 pm
by Sarah
I found a kind of puffer
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
8bo$3bo$2bo$o3bo$o4bo$bo4bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 12:25 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 12:12 pm
I found a kind of puffer
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
8bo$3bo$2bo$o3bo$o4bo$bo4bo!
Probably known, but I did just find this wick to go with it (also, probably known):
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x = 33, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
10bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$3bobo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$2bo4bo$o3bo3bo$o4bo$bo4bob
o!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: October 30th, 2020, 8:59 pm
by yujh
Schiaparelliorbust wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 12:25 pm
Sarah wrote: ↑October 30th, 2020, 12:12 pm
I found a kind of puffer
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
8bo$3bo$2bo$o3bo$o4bo$bo4bo!
Probably known, but I did just find this wick to go with it (also, probably known):
Code: Select all
x = 33, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
10bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$3bobo7bo3bo3bo3bo3bo2bo$2bo4bo$o3bo3bo$o4bo$bo4bob
o!
They should be known a long time ago.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 5th, 2020, 1:11 pm
by Sarah
Something maybe interesting
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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B2/S0
4bo$5bo$6bo4bo$7bo4bo$o7bo3bo$bo8bo$bo7bo$o3bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 5th, 2020, 1:12 pm
by Schiaparelliorbust
Sarah wrote: ↑November 5th, 2020, 1:11 pm
Something maybe interesting
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x = 13, y = 9, rule = B2/S0
4bo$5bo$6bo4bo$7bo4bo$o7bo3bo$bo8bo$bo7bo$o3bo!
Nope. That's a very normal explosion.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 5th, 2020, 2:03 pm
by Sarah
Another one line puffer
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x = 14, y = 11, rule = B2/S0
$5b2o$7bo$4bo$3bo$2bo2bo$3b2obo$5bobo$6bobo$7bo!
Here's a shorter version:
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 8, rule = B2/S0
3b2o$5bo$2bo$bo$o2bo$b2obo$3bobo$4bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 6th, 2020, 12:01 pm
by Sarah
Two line puffer
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 10, rule = B2/S0
5bo$4bobo$7bo$7bo$3bobo$2bobo$bobo$obo$bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 6th, 2020, 12:32 pm
by Sarah
A spaceship
Code: Select all
x = 9, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
8bo$7bo$o5bo$bo3bo$2bo$3b2o!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 6th, 2020, 1:13 pm
by Sarah
A puffer
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 8, rule = B2/S0
$2bobo4bo$bo3bo4bo$6bo3bo$8bo$7bo$2bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 6th, 2020, 4:13 pm
by bubblegum
can we just assume based on their simplicity that these are already known please
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 8th, 2020, 9:09 am
by Sarah
A puffer that fires a moon behind it to pull 2 dots forward
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2/S0
8bo$bo$o$o3bo6bo$2b3obo$4bo2bo$4bo2bo$2b3obo$o3bo6bo$o$bo$8bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 8th, 2020, 9:14 am
by Sarah
A spaceship that puts 2 plus sparks behind it
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x = 8, y = 5, rule = B2/S0
bo4bo$b2o2b2o2$o6bo$b2o2b2o!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 8th, 2020, 9:21 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
bubblegum wrote: ↑November 6th, 2020, 4:13 pm
can we just assume based on their simplicity that these are already known please
Exactly.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 9th, 2020, 12:15 am
by wwei23
To be fair, simple objects aren't automatically known. Remember the copperhead?
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 9th, 2020, 10:15 am
by Sarah
Turns out you can put two of the two line puffers posted at the front of this thread together without the whole thing exploding
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 7, rule = B2/S0
b2o6b2o$o10bo$3bo4bo$o3bo2bo3bo2$bo2bo2bo2bo$3bo4bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 9th, 2020, 10:28 am
by Schiaparelliorbust
wwei23 wrote: ↑November 9th, 2020, 12:15 am
To be fair, simple objects aren't automatically known. Remember the copperhead?
Well, I think the copperhead is complex enough to be kind of hard to find. On the other hand, these are extremely simple.
Sarah wrote: ↑November 9th, 2020, 10:15 am
Turns out you can put two of the two line puffers posted at the front of this thread together without the whole thing exploding
Code: Select all
x = 12, y = 7, rule = B2/S0
b2o6b2o$o10bo$3bo4bo$o3bo2bo3bo2$bo2bo2bo2bo$3bo4bo!
That honestly isn't that interesting.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 9th, 2020, 10:36 am
by Sarah
A one line puffer
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 8, rule = B2/S0
5bo$4bo$3bo$2bo$o$o$bo$2bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 10th, 2020, 10:43 pm
by LaundryPizza03
We're more interested in things that aren't already known. For example, is there a collection of puffers that lays the following pattern of dots, heading north?
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x = 7, y = 6, rule = B2/S0
5bo2$o$3bo$6bo$o!
This would immediately lead to O(t^3/2) growth due to this reaction, found by Aidan F. Pierce earlier in this thread:
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x = 16, y = 90, rule = B2/S0
14bo2$9bo$12bo$15bo$9bo7$14bo2$9bo$12bo$15bo$9bo7$14bo2$9bo$12bo$15bo$
9bo7$14bo2$9bo$12bo$15bo$9bo2$7b2o$6bo2bo4$6bo$o$3bo$6bo2$bo7$6bo$o$3b
o$6bo2$bo7$6bo$o$3bo$6bo2$bo7$6bo$o$3bo$6bo2$bo!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 10th, 2020, 11:22 pm
by wwei23
Hm. This might be possible by using period-3 and period-6 puffers. First of all, is there a way to delete a pair of dots in this?
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x = 1, y = 46, rule = B2/S0
o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o3$o!
Second of all, how would I delete a single dot in this?
Code: Select all
x = 1, y = 43, rule = B2/S0
o6$o6$o6$o6$o6$o6$o6$o!
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 11th, 2020, 2:39 am
by wildmyron
There doesn't seem to be a copy of the LFoD collection available here, so I'm attaching a copy which I managed to find digging around in some of my archived files. It is a copy of the collection compiled by Luke Bradford as it was in 2014. Unfortunately it doesn't include the many interesting patterns which have been added since then and it doesn't include the useful commentary which was available on the LFoD wiki at wikispaces. Unfortunately there's no publicly available copy of the wiki anymore, but hopefully Luke archived it before the site went down.
Most of the patterns recently posted to this thread are included, so please have a look through the collection before posting similar simple / low period patterns. It's also worth having a look through this thread because there was a lot of great stuff posted here through 2015 and 2016.
Re: Live Free or Die
Posted: November 11th, 2020, 8:01 am
by Hunting
wwei23 wrote: ↑November 9th, 2020, 12:15 am
To be fair, simple objects aren't automatically known. Remember the copperhead?
copperhead is not like a 5x5 spaceship.