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Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 12th, 2019, 2:36 pm

NOTICE:
To establish what is known, I recommend you read my three first posts on this rule as well as the thread. You can find links to them on the bottom of the post.

Alright, this rule may not be thread worthy, but I need somewhere to consolidate my stuff + stop cluttering other OCA threads. (I think it's better that my posts on other rules can be confidently identified as my posts on other rules)

Why is this rule called Immortalife?

Here' s a pattern (a B+G predecessor in this rule) lasting near 60K generations

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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2bo$bo$bo$obo$bo$bo!
All known ships (WARNING: may be outdated. Check later bits of the thread.)

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x = 306, y = 141, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
89b3o$89bobo2$88b2ob2o8$77b2o9b3o5b3o4b3o8bo5bo$77bobo8bo2bo4bo2bo3bo
2bo6b3o3b3o11b3o4bo12b3o4bo$77bo10bo7bo6bo8b2obo3bob2o10bo2bo2b3o11bo
2bo2b3o$88bo7bo6bo29bo4b2obo11bo4b2obo$89bo6bo6bo29bo3b4o12bo3b4o$97bo
5bo29bo5b2o12bo3bob2o$104bo29bobo16bo$154bobo30$58b3o28bo6bo11bo3bo21b
o3bo3bo3bo10bo18bo3bo9bo3bo3bo12bo3bo3bo11bo3bo10bo3bo3bo3bo10bo3bo6bo
3bo10bo3bo3bo$58bo29b3o4b3o9b3ob3o19b3ob3ob3ob3o8b3o16b3ob3o7b3ob3ob3o
10b3ob3ob3o9b3ob3o8b3ob3ob3ob3o8b3ob3ob2ob3ob3o8b3ob3ob3o$58bo28bo2b2o
2b2o2bo8bobobobo19bobobobobobobobo7bo2b2o15bobobobo7bobobobobobo10bobo
bobobobo9bobobobo8bobobobobobobobo8bobobo3b2o3bobobo8bobobobobobo$58bo
32bo2bo11b2obobob2o17b2obobo5bobob2o6b2o2bo14b2obobob2o5b2obobobobob2o
8b2obobobobob2o7b2obobob2o6b2obobo5bobob2o6b2o5bob2obo5b2o6b2obo5bob2o
$58bo28b2ob2o2b2ob2o7bo2bobo23bo2bo3bo2bo12b2o14bo2bobo2bo5bo2bobobobo
2bo8bo2bobobobo2bo7bo2bobo12bo2bo3bo2bo12bo3b2o2b2o3bo12bo5bo$58bo53bo
22bo9bo11bobo33bobo18bobo18bo11bo9bo11b3obo2b2o2bob3o10bo7bo$58bo46b2o
b2o24bo11bo7b2ob2o14b2ob2ob2ob2o3b2ob2obobob2ob2o6b2ob2obobob2ob2o5b2o
b2o36bobobobo2bobobobo$58bo75bo11bo10bo35bobo18bobo54bobo6bobo$58bo75b
o11bo10b2o31bo2bobo2bo10bo11bo49bo10bo$58bo75bo3bo3bo3bo10b2o30bobobob
obobo9bob3o3b3obo48bobob6obobo$58bo75bo3bo3bo3bo10b3o28bo4bobo4bo10b3o
3b3o50bob2ob4ob2obo$58bo75bo11bo10b3o28b2o2b2ob2o2b2o9b2o7b2o51bob2o2b
2obo$58bo76bobo5bobo11b2o30b2ob2ob2ob2o69bo2bo8bo2bo$58bo131bo3bo3bo
69b3o2bo6bo2b3o$58bo128b3o9b3o66bobo12bobo$58bo78bo3bo3bo3bo11bo26bo
11bo66b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o$58bo77b3ob3ob3ob3o9b3o10bo13b2o11b2o66bobobo2bo
2bo2bobobo$58bo77bobobobobobobobo8bo2b2o8b3o12b3o9b3o65bobob2o8b2obobo
$58bo76b2obobo5bobob2o7b2o2bo7bo2b2o92bobobob2o2b2obobobo$58bo79bo2bo
3bo2bo13b2o7b2o2bo93bo2bo8bo2bo$58bo79bo9bo12bobo10b2o96b2o6b2o$58bo
78bo11bo8b2ob2o10bobo92b2obobo6bobob2o$58bo78bo11bo11bo8b2ob2o96bo10bo
$58bo78bo11bo11b2o10bo95bob2o8b2obo$58bo78bo3bo7bo11b2o10b2o96b2o8b2o$
58bo78bo8bobo12b3o9b2o93b2o14b2o$58bo79bobo20b3o9b3o91bo18bo$58bo102b
3o9b3o91b2o3b3o4b3o3b2o$58bo102b2o10b3o92b5obo4bob5o$58bo114b3o91b2o2b
o10bo2b2o$58bo114b2o95b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$
58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo68bo11bo$58bo68b2o9b2o14bo14bo$3ob3obo2bob3ob3o38bo
68bob2o5b2obo14b2o5b2o5b2o$bo2bobob2obobobo3bo38bo67bo2bob2ob2obo2bo
13bob2obob2obob2obo$bo2b3obob2obobo3bo38bo65b2o2bo3bobo3bo2b2o10bo2bo
2bo4bo2bo2bo$bo2bobobo2bobobo3bo38bo72b2ob2o15b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o$3o
bobobo2bob3o3bo38bo65bo6b2ob2o6bo16bo4bo$57b2o65bobo3bo5bo3bobo8bo7bo
4bo7bo$58bo71bo5bo14bobo16bobo$58bo70b2o5b2o$58bo71bo5bo$58bo71bo5bo$
58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$
58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo$58bo74bo$58bo69bo4bo10bo3bo3bo3bo$58bo68b3o2b
obo9bo3bo3bo3bo$58bo68b3o13bobobobobobobobo$58bo$58bo70b4o10bobobobobo
bobobo$58bo69bo2bo11bo5bobo5bo$58bo68bo16b2ob2o3b2ob2o$58bo68bo5bo11bo
bo5bobo$58bo68bo2bo2bo11bob2o3b2obo$58bo68bo4bobo11b2o5b2o$58bo88b3ob
3o$58bo71bobo15b2ob2o$58bo70bo2bo$58bo70bo2bo$58bo69bo3bo$58bo69bo2bo$
58bo68bo4bo$58bo$58bo68bo4bo$58bo68b6o$58b2o67b2o2b2o!
I vote we call these lightweight, middleweight, and heavyweight fakeships:

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x = 6, y = 50, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
3bo$2b3o$bo2b2o$b2o2bo$4b2o$3bobo$2ob2o$3bo$3b2o$3b2o$3b3o$3b3o$3b2o5$
3bo$2b3o$bo2b2o$b2o2bo$4b2o$3bobo$2ob2o$3bo$3b2o$3b2o$3b3o$3b3o$3b3o$
3b2o5$3bo$2b3o$bo2b2o$b2o2bo$4b2o$3bobo$2ob2o$3bo$3b2o$3b2o$3b3o$3b3o$
3b3o$3b3o$3b2o!
Or LWFS, MWFS, HWFS

1st post on the rule (or rather, a quote of the first post)
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=803&start=1275#p75071

Later posts:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=803&start=1300#p75112
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=803&start=1300#p75959


Catagolue:
C1:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3-cqy4js2-n34i/C1
General:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3-cqy4js2-n34i

EDIT:
3G LWSS

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x = 17, y = 13, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
4bo$5bo$3b3o6$bo$b2o$obo12bo$14b2o$14bobo!
from

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x = 8, y = 6, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
b2o$o2bo$b2o$5b2o$5bobo$5bo!
I don't think we'll have a LWFS synth anytime soon until we have an OCA martin grant

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#C a LWSS doesn't look close enough. We can probably easily synthesize the top though.
x = 19, y = 13, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
16bo$2b3o10b3o$bo2bo9bo2b2o$b2o11b2o2bo$4b2o11b2o$3bobo10bobo$2ob2o8b
2ob2o$16bo$3bo12b2o$2b3o11b2o$2bob2o10b3o$3b3o10b3o$3b2o11b2o!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by PkmnQ » May 12th, 2019, 11:01 pm

Found a natural puffer. Unfortunately, my brain turned off for a few seconds and didn't save the soup.

But I do have the puffer:

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x = 9, y = 4, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
b3ob3o$o2bobo2bo$o2bobo2bo$b2o3b2o!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by fluffykitty » May 12th, 2019, 11:21 pm

Natural LWSS:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o5b3o2bobo$3o4bobob5o$3b4o5b4o$2obobo2bo5b2o$obo2bo2b4ob3o$3b3o2b2ob2o
bo$6b3ob3o$o3b2o3bob2o$4obob4o2b2o$b3obob3o5bo$4b4o3bobobo$3b2o2b2o3b
2o$bobobobob2obob2o$6bo2bobob2o$6bo2b2o3b2o$o2b4o2b2o2b2o!
Natural something:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o4bo2bob2o2b2o$4bobo5bobo$2o2b2ob2obo3b2o$3bobobo2b2obo$3o4b2o3b2obo$
2bo2bob3ob2ob2o$2ob4obo2bobobo$2o5b2obo2bo$ob6o3bo$3bo2b3o2bo2b2o$b2o
2b4o3b3o$bob2o2bob2ob2o$2b4o2b5o$o2bob2ob3o$obo3b3o3b2obo$3obob2obob5o
!
Significantly better natural LWSS:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o6bo7bo$b2ob2o2b4ob3o$ob4ob3ob2o2bo$3obobob2o4bo$3o2bo5b2o2bo$o3b3o4b
2ob2o$2bo2bobo2b2obobo$2b4obob2o2b2o$2b2o2bob3obo$2bo6b5obo$b7obobobob
o$ob2ob2o7b2o$bob4o2bo2b2obo$3b5ob2obob2o$4b3obo$o2b4ob2ob2o2bo!
Natural that puffer:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
b3ob2obo2bob3o$o2bo2bobobobob2o$6obo2bo4bo$3obo3b6obo$o4bob2obo4bo$b3o
b2o5b3o$4obob4o4bo$3bo2bo2b2o4bo$b2obo4b4o2bo$b2o3b2o$2obo3bo2b2o2b2o$
2bo2bo2bobo3bo$o2bob2o4b2obo$b2o2bob2ob2ob2o$ob3o3bo2b2ob2o$o4bobob2ob
ob2o!
That and an LWSS:

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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2b2o2b2ob2o2b3o$b2ob2o2bobo2b2o$6b2o3b2o$ob5obob3ob2o$b2o2b2o2b3ob2o$
2obobo3b4o2bo$b4o2b7o$2bob3ob2obo$bo2b3o2b5obo$2bob4ob2obo2bo$2b3obo2b
2ob3o$2ob2obobobob2o$b2obobobo4bobo$6o3b2o2b3o$3o2b2o4b2ob2o$b2o2b2obo
bo2bo!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 13th, 2019, 7:42 am

Re:
The double pond puffer:
Unfortunately, the puffer is not very new—look at my old posts on the rule and you’ll find it.

The LWSS’s commonness has been observed— you have pretty much confirmed it comes from some variant of a beehive colliding with a spark
The long integral looks pretty new though!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by fluffykitty » May 13th, 2019, 2:53 pm

p58 wick:

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x = 34, y = 8, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
22b3o$22bobo7bo$22bobo6bobo$10bo20bobo$9bobo20bo$obo6bobo$obo7bo$3o!
(Also posted in "Absolutely Useless Patterns Not Worthy of Patterns Thread")

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 13th, 2019, 5:27 pm

fluffykitty wrote:p58 wick:

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x = 34, y = 8, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
22b3o$22bobo7bo$22bobo6bobo$10bo20bobo$9bobo20bo$obo6bobo$obo7bo$3o!
(Also posted in "Absolutely Useless Patterns Not Worthy of Patterns Thread")
Dang, so close! I wish the pi appeared in a different place when it replicated—maybe then one copy could be eaten in a known way.

Anybody have luck doing it in other ways? A pishuttle might help with making guns if a period 19 LOM based one doesn’t work out—I might try for the zillionth time making one, if nobody else wants to try and see how difficult it is to do it by hand.
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by fluffykitty » May 13th, 2019, 5:42 pm

Maybe someone should use one of the catalyst search programs to find an eater or investigate the combinations of 90° pi interactions for a possible loop (the p58 wick has very flexible timing so phasing won't be an issue). Also, there's this reaction that may be useful for p86 pi oscillators:

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x = 60, y = 35, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
7$37bo$38b2o$37b2o$3bo$4bo$2b3o11$53b3o$19b3o31bobo$19bobo31bobo$19bob
o!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AbhpzTa » May 21st, 2019, 1:55 pm

p58 (dimer) :

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x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
14bo$13b3o$2o11bobo7b2o$obo19bobo$bo21bo$7bobobobo$7b3ob2o$8bo3bo2$8bo
3bo$7b3ob2o$7bobobobo$bo21bo$obo19bobo$2o11bobo7b2o$13b3o$14bo!
monomer:

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
16bo$15bobo$2o12bo3bo8b2o$o13bo3bo9bo$bob2o9b2ob2o5b2obo$2obo21bob2o$b
ob2o19b2obo$bobo12bo8bobo$2ob2o11bo7b2ob2o5$9b2o7b2o$5b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o$
5b2o15b2o2$5b2o15b2o$5b2o15b2o!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 21st, 2019, 3:16 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:p58 (dimer) :

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x = 25, y = 17, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
14bo$13b3o$2o11bobo7b2o$obo19bobo$bo21bo$7bobobobo$7b3ob2o$8bo3bo2$8bo
3bo$7b3ob2o$7bobobobo$bo21bo$obo19bobo$2o11bobo7b2o$13b3o$14bo!
monomer:

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x = 29, y = 19, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
16bo$15bobo$2o12bo3bo8b2o$o13bo3bo9bo$bob2o9b2ob2o5b2obo$2obo21bob2o$b
ob2o19b2obo$bobo12bo8bobo$2ob2o11bo7b2ob2o5$9b2o7b2o$5b2o2b2o7b2o2b2o$
5b2o15b2o2$5b2o15b2o$5b2o15b2o!
Wow! those are cool.
I suppose you haven't found any guns yet?


EDIT:
that catalyst is awfully nice

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x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2o$o$bob2o$2obo6b3o$bob2o5bobo$bobo6bobo$2ob2o!
component

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
18b2o$18b2o5$5b2o8bobo$5bo9bobo$6bob2o5b3o$2ob2obobo$bobob2ob2o$bobo$
2b2o!
Pi->bh

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
8b2o$8b2o3$2o$o$bob2o3b3o$2obo4bo$bob2o3b3o$bobo$2ob2o!

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x = 22, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
19bobo$8b2o9b2o$8b2o10bo3$2o$o$bob2o3b3o$2obo4bo$bob2o3b3o$bobo$2ob2o!
any oscillators that work on a mechanism like this

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x = 18, y = 14, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
8b2o$8b2o2$2o$o12b2ob2o$bob2ob2o6bobo$2obo2b2o2b2ob2obo$bob2ob2o2b2o2b
ob2o$bobo6b2ob2obo$2ob2o12bo$16b2o2$8b2o$8b2o!
EDIT:
hatship synth

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x = 17, y = 11, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
15bo$14bo$14b3o2$5bo$3o2bobo$o4b2o$bo$11b2o$11bobo$11bo!
So we have

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x = 17, y = 29, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
15bo$14bo$14b3o2$5bo$3o2bobo$o4b2o$bo$11b2o$11bobo$11bo6$4bo$5bo$3b3o
6$bo$b2o$obo12bo$14b2o$14bobo!

EDIT:
now I feel like martin grant

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x = 109, y = 18, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
83bo23bo$bo23bo58bo21bo$2bo21bo57b3o21b3o$3o21b3o6$84bo21bo$2bo21bo24b
o11bo23bo19bo$3bo19bo26bo9bo22b3o19b3o$b3o19b3o22b3o9b3o$9bo7bo$10bo5b
o$8b3o5b3o$93b2ob2o$93b2ob2o!

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x = 27, y = 68, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
13b2o$12bobo$14bo3$13b3o$13bo$14bo4$9b3o$11bo$10bo$17b2o$17bobo$17bo5$
9bo$10bo$8b3o6$6bo$6b2o$5bobo12bo$19b2o$19bobo20$bo23bo$2bo21bo$3o21b
3o7$2bo21bo$3bo19bo$b3o19b3o$9bo7bo$10bo5bo$8b3o5b3o!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by PkmnQ » May 22nd, 2019, 12:49 am

Has this been found yet?

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x = 13, y = 6, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2b3o3b3o$2bobo3bobo$2b3o3b3o$o11bo$o11bo$o11bo!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 22nd, 2019, 7:22 am

PkmnQ wrote:Has this been found yet?

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x = 13, y = 6, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2b3o3b3o$2bobo3bobo$2b3o3b3o$o11bo$o11bo$o11bo!
I can’t recall, but it hasn’t been posted.
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AforAmpere » May 22nd, 2019, 4:47 pm

5G synth of that still life synthesized in 7G in the other thread:

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x = 27, y = 42, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
25bo$24bo$24b3o8$9bo$8bo$8b3o3$3o$2bo$bo$11bo$10b2o$10bobo19$15bo$14b
2o$14bobo!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AbhpzTa » May 26th, 2019, 4:57 pm

AforAmpere wrote:5G synth of that still life synthesized in 7G in the other thread:

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x = 27, y = 42, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
25bo$24bo$24b3o8$9bo$8bo$8b3o3$3o$2bo$bo$11bo$10b2o$10bobo19$15bo$14b
2o$14bobo!
3G:

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x = 20, y = 18, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
19bo$17b2o$18b2o12$b2o$obo10bo$2bo9b2o$12bobo!


p58 glider gun:

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x = 34, y = 29, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
25bo2bob2o$25b5obo2$25b5o$25bobobo$18b3o4$19b2o$19b2o3$30bo$29b3o$29bo
bo$2o14bo15b2o$o14b3o11bobo$bob2o9b2ob2o10b3o$2obo26bo$bob2o$bobo$2ob
2o4b2o4b2o$14bob2o5b3o4$9b2o$4b3o2b2o!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 26th, 2019, 6:54 pm

AbhpzTa wrote: ...
p58 glider gun:

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x = 34, y = 29, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
25bo2bob2o$25b5obo2$25b5o$25bobobo$18b3o4$19b2o$19b2o3$30bo$29b3o$29bo
bo$2o14bo15b2o$o14b3o11bobo$bob2o9b2ob2o10b3o$2obo26bo$bob2o$bobo$2ob
2o4b2o4b2o$14bob2o5b3o4$9b2o$4b3o2b2o!
AWESOME!
A LWSS gun

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x = 137, y = 120, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
28bo2bob2o$28b5obo2$28b5o$22bo5bobobo$22bo$22bo$33bo$32b3o$22b2o7bo3bo
$22b2o7b2ob2o2$33bobo2$15bo15b2ob2o$14bobo14bo3bo$3b2o8bo3bo14b3o$3bo
9bo3bo15bo$4bob2o5b2ob2o$3b2obo$4bob2o$4bobo$3b2ob2o19bo$27bo$22b2o3bo
7bo$21bo14bo$21bo12b3o$8bo3b2o$8bo3b2o$8bo10$50bo$48bobo$49b2o12$64bo$
65bo$63b3o6$61bo$61b2o$60bobo12bo$74b2o$74bobo11$46b2o$47b2o$46bo42b2o
$88b2o$90bo9$4b3o2b2o$9b2o21bo$32b2o92b2o2b3o$18bo12bobo70bo21b2o$19bo
83b2o$23b3o77bobo12bo$2ob2o112bo$bobo107b3o$bob2o127b2ob2o$2obo129bobo
$bob2o5b2ob2o117b2obo$o8b2o3b2o13b3o101bob2o$2o8b2ob2o14b3o90b2ob2o5b
2obo$12bo15bo3bo72b3o13b2o3b2o8bo$12bo15b2ob2o72b3o14b2ob2o8b2o$32bo
71bo3bo15bo$104b2ob2o15bo$32bo71bo$19b2o7b2ob2o$19b2o7bo3bo71bo$29b3o
72b2ob2o7b2o$29b3o72bo3bo7b2o$105b3o$18b3o84b3o$25bobobo$25b5o86b3o$
107bobobo$25b5obo75b5o$25bo2bob2o$105bob5o$105b2obo2bo!
Can someone make edgeshooters, hatship guns, etc?
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » May 26th, 2019, 7:58 pm

Syntheses, anyone?

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x = 11, y = 7, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o$o9bo$o6b2obo$7bo$o6b2obo$o9bo$o!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AbhpzTa » May 27th, 2019, 10:20 am

p4:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2ob2o$bobo$2ob5o$8bo$2b3o$2bobobo2bo$6b4o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o!
p9:

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
6b2o$6b2o3$5b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$b2o3$2o$2o!

Stable 90-degree glider reflector, recovery time 61:

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x = 43, y = 50, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o$b2o$2o13$16bo$17bo$15b3o15$41b2o$41b2o2$24b2o7b2o$24b2o7b2o2$28bo$
26b3o6bo$25bo8bobo$25b2o7bobo$35bo$38b2o$37bo2bo$38b2o3$39b2o$39b2o!
100009436650194649 = 94649 * 1056634900001

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 27th, 2019, 12:20 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:p4:

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2ob2o$bobo$2ob5o$8bo$2b3o$2bobobo2bo$6b4o$5bo$5bobo$6b2o!
p9:

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x = 8, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
6b2o$6b2o3$5b2o$bo4bo$bo4bo$b2o3$2o$2o!

Stable 90-degree glider reflector, recovery time 61:

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x = 43, y = 50, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
o$b2o$2o13$16bo$17bo$15b3o15$41b2o$41b2o2$24b2o7b2o$24b2o7b2o2$28bo$
26b3o6bo$25bo8bobo$25b2o7bobo$35bo$38b2o$37bo2bo$38b2o3$39b2o$39b2o!
Abhpzta is magic.

Now we have oscillators for all periods >61, and I believe the first “cenark” for life gliders in OCA.
P384 as a quick demo

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x = 63, y = 63, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
22b2o$22b2o3$23b2o$22bo2bo$23b2o$27bo$26bobo7b2o$26bobo8bo$27bo6b3o$
34bo2$28b2o7b2o$28b2o7b2o2$20b2o$20b2o3$45b2o$45b2o$57bo3b2o$56bobo2b
2o$13b2o41bobo$8b2o3b2o42bo$8bobo42b2o$10bo41bo2bo$10b2o36b2o3b2o$48b
2o4$13b2o$8b2o3b2o36b2o$7bo2bo41bo$8b2o42bobo$5bo42b2o3b2o$4bobo41b2o$
2o2bobo$2o3bo$16b2o$16b2o2$32b3o$31bo2bo6b2o$31b2o8b2o2$24b2o$24b2o2$
28bo$26b3o6bo$25bo8bobo$25b2o7bobo$35bo$38b2o$37bo2bo$38b2o3$39b2o$39b
2o!

We are getting very conduity.
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AforAmpere » May 27th, 2019, 12:57 pm

C/3:

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x = 19, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
3bo11bo$3b2o9b2o$3bob2o5b2obo$2bo2bob2ob2obo2bo$2o2bo3bobo3bo2b2o$7b2o
b2o$o6b2ob2o6bo$obo3bo5bo3bobo$6bo5bo$5b2o5b2o$6bo5bo$6bo5bo!
Two small C/4s:

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x = 38, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
6bo17bo3bo3bo3bo$bo4bo4bo12bo3bo3bo3bo$3o2bobo2b3o10bobobobobobobobo$
3o7b3o$23bobobobobobobobo$2b4ob4o12bo5bobo5bo$bo2bo3bo2bo12b2ob2o3b2ob
2o$o11bo12bobo5bobo$o11bo12bob2o3b2obo$o2bo5bo2bo13b2o5b2o$o11bo14b3ob
3o$28b2ob2o!
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 27th, 2019, 3:26 pm

AforAmpere wrote:
Two small C/4s:

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x = 38, y = 12, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
6bo17bo3bo3bo3bo$bo4bo4bo12bo3bo3bo3bo$3o2bobo2b3o10bobobobobobobobo$
3o7b3o$23bobobobobobobobo$2b4ob4o12bo5bobo5bo$bo2bo3bo2bo12b2ob2o3b2ob
2o$o11bo12bobo5bobo$o11bo12bob2o3b2obo$o2bo5bo2bo13b2o5b2o$o11bo14b3ob
3o$28b2ob2o!
The second c/4 is known already, but the others look new. I know the 1st c/4 is new.
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by AlephAlpha » May 28th, 2019, 5:26 am

Some puffers:

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x = 75, y = 6, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
b3ob3o17b3ob3o27b3ob3o$o2bobobo17bobobobo27bobobobo$o2bobobo13b3obobob
obob3o15b3ob3obobobobob3ob3o$b2o17bo2bobo5bobo2bo13bo2bobobobo5bobobob
o2bo$20b2obo9bob2o13bo2bobobo9bobobo2bo$51b2o4bo9bo4b2o!
You may find more puffers by combining these components.

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Some c/4 diagonal spaceships:

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x = 37, y = 37, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
12bo$13bo$12b2o$12bo$13b2o$13b2o$12bo$10bo2b2o$11bobo$12b2o2$2b4o3b2ob
o$7obo3bo$o5bob2ob2o9b2o$b3obobo9bobo2b2o$3bo14b2o3bo$18bo2bob2o2$13bo
bo3bobo3bo$14b2o3bo2b3o$14bo3b3o2b2o$22bo$17b2obo2bobobo$12b2obobo4bo
3b2o$14bo2b2obobo3bo$18bo$21bobo7b2o$22b2o6bo$22bo10bo$32b2o$32b2o$26b
o3bobo$27bo2b2o$27b2ob2o$35bo$36bo$34b3o!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Gamedziner » May 28th, 2019, 6:57 am

AlephAlpha wrote: Some c/4 diagonal spaceships:

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x = 37, y = 37, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
12bo$13bo$12b2o$12bo$13b2o$13b2o$12bo$10bo2b2o$11bobo$12b2o2$2b4o3b2ob
o$7obo3bo$o5bob2ob2o9b2o$b3obobo9bobo2b2o$3bo14b2o3bo$18bo2bob2o2$13bo
bo3bobo3bo$14b2o3bo2b3o$14bo3b3o2b2o$22bo$17b2obo2bobobo$12b2obobo4bo
3b2o$14bo2b2obobo3bo$18bo$21bobo7b2o$22b2o6bo$22bo10bo$32b2o$32b2o$26b
o3bobo$27bo2b2o$27b2ob2o$35bo$36bo$34b3o!
You can reduce the first one, and the second one is actually two gliders + front-end tagalong.

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x = 13, y = 5, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2b4o3b2obo$7obo3bo$o5bob2ob2o$b3obobo$3bo!

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x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by fluffykitty » May 28th, 2019, 3:37 pm

Removing the back gliders on the second spaceship will destroy it since the gliders prevent births.

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » May 28th, 2019, 7:22 pm

14p28 inside the ash of the 60k gen methuselah:

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2bo$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o2$4bo2$2b3o!
EDIT: Anyone could have spotted it in the ash, really, so I credit Moosey with this one.
Last edited by Hdjensofjfnen on May 28th, 2019, 7:33 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Moosey » May 28th, 2019, 7:30 pm

Hdjensofjfnen wrote:14p28 inside the ash of the 60k gen methuselah:

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x = 5, y = 8, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
2bo$b3o$o3bo$2ob2o2$4bo2$2b3o!
EDIT: Anyone could have spotted it in the ash, really, so I credit Moosey with this one.
and besides, I did spot it and pointed it out, but nobody bothers to read my early posts on this rule.
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Re: Immortalife (B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » May 28th, 2019, 7:33 pm

Anyone up to synthesize moose antlers?

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x = 17, y = 5, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
15bo$3o$2bo11b3o$2bo$bo!
EDIT: Halfway... I'm thinking maybe the sparks from the blinker destruction can be used to make a dot spark.

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x = 50, y = 18, rule = B3-cqy4j/S2-n34i
47bo$47bobo$47b2o$36bo$21b3o$23bo11b3o$23bo$22bo8$bo$b2o$obo!
EDIT: Oh, wait, there's no B3y. Or B3c. Darn it!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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