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Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by 2718281828 » March 15th, 2019, 6:53 am

This is an apg-searchable rule:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b2 ... tz5ijnqy6c

It has at least six natural ships (orth: c/2, 4c/8, 2c/6, oblique: (2,1)/6 (knightwise), 2 x diag: c/3):

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x = 26, y = 22, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
4$15bo$11bo4b2o$5bo6bo4bo$4bobo3b2o3bo2bo3$2b2o$3bo2b2o13b3o$2bo4b2o
13bo$2bobo2b2o13bo$3b2ob2o3bobo7bobo$5bo6bob3o3b3o!
The up-flying ones (c/2 orth, knight, c/3 diag) are very common and very useful for signals.

The magic comes from the c/2 ship which has these properties.

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x = 37, y = 13, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
$2bobo$2b3o2$15bobo5bobo6bobo$15b3o5b3o6b3o$2bobo$2b3o2$15b2o$3bo19bo
8bobo$3bo19bo8bobo!
It has a colour changing domino-splitter with repeat time of 10(!), the domino can be eater and also act as an eater, and finally two dominos can reflect a c/2 ship by 180°. Thus we have oscillators and guns for all periods p>9. Further, the rule is omniperiod (you find oscillators p < 10 in the catagolue).

Eater collection:

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x = 74, y = 15, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
62b3o$63bo$11b2o50bo$12bo2b2o45bobo$11bo4b2o43b3o$11bobo2b2o$bobo8b2ob
2o22bo10bo2bo$2bo11bo9bobo12b2o11bo$25bob3o8b3o10b2o19b2o$50bo21b2o2$b
2o20b2o7b2o$7bo15b2o7b2o22b2o10b2o$7bo6b2o25b2o13b2o10b2o$14b2o!
Moving object collection:

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x = 97, y = 32, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
5$47b2o16b2o6b2o$14bo11bo5bob3o4bob3o4b3obo9bo3bo2bo3bo$12b2ob2o8bobo
3bobo6bobo4b2o4bobo9b2obo2bob2o7b3o5bo$11bobo2b2o46bo3bo2bo3bo7b2o6b2o
$11bo4b2o25bo8bo10bo12bo6bo8bo$12bo2b2o25bobo6bobo9bo3b2o2b2o3bo13bo2b
o$11b2o50bo2bo6bo2bo$64bo2b2o2b2o2bo$21b3o2bo$21bobobobo$23bo8bob3o53b
3o$31bobo57bobo$15bo76bo$11bo2bobo17bo57bo$7bo2bobo20bobo55b3o$6bobo2b
o14bo$22bo2bobo$21bobo$24bo$24bo$21bo2bo$20bo2bo$20bob2o!
Gun collection (including a p9 gun):

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x = 35, y = 184, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
3$16b2o4b2o$16b2ob2ob2o2$13bo2b2o4b2o$13bo2bo2b2o2bo$16bo6bo2$15b2o6b
2o$18bo2bo$18b4o2$19b2o4$19b2o$15b2o6b2o2$19b2o$4bo13bo2bo$4bo14b2o2$
15b2o6b2o$19b2o7$16bo5bo$10b2o4bo5bo4b2o$10b2o2bo9bo2b2o$13bo11bo$12bo
13bo$11bo15bo2$9b2o17b2o3$4bo$4bo2$9b2o17b2o2$11bo15bo$12bo13bo$13bo
11bo$10b2o2bo9bo2b2o$10b2o4bo5bo4b2o$16bo5bo7$19b2o2$17bo$16bobo$15bo$
16bobobo$13bo$13bo4bo19$19b2o$24bo$24bo2bo$18b2o4bo2bo$23b3o$23bobo$9b
2o$9b2o3bo$13bo11b2o$14bo5bo$11bo8bo$10bobo11b2o4$6bo$3bo2bo$3bo8b2o3$
7b2o$4b4o6bo$7b2o2bo2bo$11bo$5b2o16$20b2o3b2o4$18b2o7b2o$18b2o7b2o5$
15b2o$15b2o3$23bo$5bo16bobo$2bo2bo$2bo21b2o2$22bobo$23bo12$5bo$4bobo2$
3b2o21bo$23bo2bo$23bo$4b2o7$12bo3bo$13b3o$6b2o$11bo$8b2obob2o$5b4o5bo$
8b2o3b2o3$4bo7b2o$4bo2bo$7bo$11b2o!

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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by googoIpIex » April 26th, 2019, 10:57 am

I feel like this rule needs more attention.
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by PkmnQ » April 26th, 2019, 10:42 pm

Hmm...maybe this could be useful.

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x = 27, y = 6, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o8b2o$bo9bo12b2o$2o8b2o3$25b2o!
Edit: I used another domino as a rock (am I using these terms correctly?)

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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o$bo12b2o$2o2$13bo$13bob2o!
Edit on edit: Turns out you don't need the other domino :lol:

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x = 12, y = 6, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o$bo8b2o$2o2$9bo$9bo!
Edit 2 on edit: I have no idea what I'm doing but it's fun :mrgreen:

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x = 22, y = 22, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
8bo$8bo$14b2o4$2bo$2bo3bo$7bob2o9b2o$6bo6bo$13bo$8bo$8bo$2o9b2o$19bo$
19bo4$6b2o$13bo$13bo!
Edit 2: Ok, I found a use! It only allows the first signal to reflect, then it eats every other signal.

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x = 35, y = 6, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o8b2o8b2o$bo9bo9bo8b2o$2o8b2o8b2o12bo$34bo2$31b2o!
Edit 3: What is this?

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x = 160, y = 31, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o$bo28b2o$2o2$48b2o$31b2o15bo$48b2o18$110b2o18b2o$111bo19bo8b2o$110b
2o18b2o2$158b2o$141b2o15bo$158b2o!
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by PkmnQ » April 27th, 2019, 6:07 am

I was trying to find a converter for the orth to the diag, and accidentally found this.

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
12b2o$2o$bo$2o2$9bo$9bo2$8b2o!
(shifts down by 1)
Also, you can't speed up or slow down the spaceship by chaining these together.
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by 2718281828 » April 27th, 2019, 11:20 am

PkmnQ wrote:I was trying to find a converter for the orth to the diag, and accidentally found this.

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
12b2o$2o$bo$2o2$9bo$9bo2$8b2o!
I think it could work with a small repeat time using one of the two compnents:

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x = 37, y = 15, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2$22bobo$4bobo16bo$5bo4$8b2o$31bo$30bo$2b2o17b2o8bo$2b2o17b2o!
The latter is used in the gun shown above.
Edit1:
or this one:

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
obo$bo$5b2o$5b2o6$b3o$bobo!

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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by 2718281828 » April 27th, 2019, 5:27 pm

This allows p>14 knight guns (with a p15 example [not optimal in terms of size]):

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x = 63, y = 40, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
3$31b2o$41bo$36bo4bo2bo$4bobo23b2o3bo8bo$4b3o29bo2$41bo$40bobo$31bobo$
32bo2$4bobo30bo$5bo23bo8bo3b2o$9b2o18bo2bo4bo$9b2o21bo$45b2o$45b2o$40b
obo$41bo3bo$44bobo$9bo44bo$8bobo40bo2bo2bo$43b2o5bo6bo$51bo2$44bobo$
45bo$54bo$8b3o42bobo$8bobo$48bo$42bo6bo5b2o$42bo2bo2bo$45bo$54b2o!
Edit1:
And a stable signal converter with min. repeat time 15:

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x = 20, y = 23, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
11bobo$11b3o7$2b2o7bobo2b2o$12bo2$b2o14b2o$12bo$12bo3$o10b2o$o2bo7b2o$
3bo2$19bo$16bo2bo$16bo!

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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by PkmnQ » April 27th, 2019, 10:22 pm

2718281828 wrote:
PkmnQ wrote:I was trying to find a converter for the orth to the diag, and accidentally found this.

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x = 14, y = 9, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
12b2o$2o$bo$2o2$9bo$9bo2$8b2o!
I think it could work with a small repeat time using one of the two compnents:

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x = 37, y = 15, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2$22bobo$4bobo16bo$5bo4$8b2o$31bo$30bo$2b2o17b2o8bo$2b2o17b2o!
The latter is used in the gun shown above.
Edit1:
or this one:

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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
obo$bo$5b2o$5b2o6$b3o$bobo!
Oh, nice! I think the latter of the first and the second are really great!
I just need to find a way to set one of those situations up somehow...
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by PkmnQ » April 27th, 2019, 10:34 pm

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x = 18, y = 4, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2o2b2o$bo3bo$2o2b2o$16b2o!
ok
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by 2718281828 » April 28th, 2019, 2:07 am

A way to change the colour of a G:

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x = 30, y = 43, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
$23b2o$16bo$13bo2bo$13bo10b2o3$27b2o$20bo$20bo3$b2o11bo$2bo12bob2o$b2o
11bo3$20bo$20bo$27b2o3$13bo10b2o$13bo2bo$16bo$23b2o11$b2o11bo$2bo12bo$
b2o11bo!
unfortunately the min. repeat time is 25, thus quite high.

Edit1:
This allows a colour preserving reflector with min. repeat time 19:

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
10b2o$11bobo$11b3o4$14bo$2o8bo2b2o$bo9bo2bobo$2o8bo4bo!
Edit2:
some misc:

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x = 45, y = 26, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
2$36bo$37bo$19bo2b3o11bo4b3o$20bobobo16bobo$19bo2b3o16b3o8$bo8bo8bo2b
3o$2bo8bo8bobobo$bo8bo8bo2b3o5$bo8bo8bo$2bo8bo8bo$bo8bo8bo!

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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by googoIpIex » April 29th, 2019, 9:16 am

Welcome to the Forums!

Figuring out how to do things like this is pretty hard. Just try messing around.
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by googoIpIex » April 30th, 2019, 12:33 pm

What about an orthogonoid in this rule?
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by 2718281828 » April 30th, 2019, 4:28 pm

googoIpIex wrote:What about an orthogonoid in this rule?
Might be possible. But, the tricky part seems to get fire commands as the rule has many debris in ashes, and does not last very long. however, a potential path could be shooting at a domino:

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x = 58, y = 37, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
$49bobo$50bo4$49bobo$49b3o$7bobo$7b3o2$49bobo$49b3o3$31bobo$31b3o15bob
o$49b3o4$31bobo15bobo$7bobo21b3o15b3o$8bo4$7bobo21bobo15bobo$8bo23bo
17bo4$9bo23bo17bo$9bo23bo17bo!
Edit1: Or as we have stable signal converters, we could also shoot at a domino/block/the p6 with knights or the c/3-diag ships. this would have the advandage that we have to fire more simple Gs.

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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by Hunting » June 26th, 2019, 1:01 pm

What about this relative?The six ships are preserved

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x = 26, y = 22, rule = B2ei3kij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
4$15bo$11bo4b2o$5bo6bo4bo$4bobo3b2o3bo2bo3$2b2o$3bo2b2o13b3o$2bo4b2o
13bo$2bobo2b2o13bo$3b2ob2o3bobo7bobo$5bo6bob3o3b3o!
The c/2 ship properties was preserved, except for that destruction, it is turned into a p6 instead.

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x = 37, y = 13, rule = B2ei3kij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
$2bobo$2b3o2$15bobo5bobo6bobo$15b3o5b3o6b3o$2bobo$2b3o2$15b2o$3bo19bo
8bobo$3bo19bo8bobo!
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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2n3/S23-q
2bo$2bo$bobo2$3o!
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Re: Switches (B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c)

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » July 3rd, 2019, 1:15 am

Pseudo-heisenburp:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B2ei3ij4ajnr6ci/S12ce3ajn4qtz5ijnqy6c
14b2o$17bo$2o15bo$bo$2o11$2o$bo$2o!

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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