python doesn't work for me for some reason, and i saw an another thread that you can convert python to lua. please send a link ):Saka wrote:1. Use Rhombic's RuleSrc and make the following formation as a start:83bismuth38 wrote:i got no rule about this, but it seems cool. I'm gonna search for rules like this.
snudder thing: what about a SMOS made of a SMOS?Set the generations to keep to 4. Now, wait, ships usually come from 60K to over 100K rules tested.Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 10, rule = B3/S23 bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo!
2. For a SMOS made of a SMOS, we would need a "very natural" SMOS that is versatile.
Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
diagonal, 2c/40
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ac3aeqr4ciknry5ikry6aei7c8/S1c2cei4w5n6c
7bobo$8bo6$o$bo$o!
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2eik3cijry4aijntwy5ejknq6ek7c/S1c2ce3eq4et5c
11bo$10bo$11bo8$bo$obo!
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x = 7, y = 11, rule = B2en3acij4cijnyz5eqy6ci7/S12an3acery4krz5cjny68
obo$bo3$6bo$5bo$6bo3$bo$obo!
diagonal, c/10
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2cen3aij4j5c/S1e2acn3ij4jwy
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o!
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2ce3aijq/S1e2ace
5bobo$6bo4$o$bo$o!
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2cek3ijk4jqr5ac/S1e2ace3acnr4jnr5cinq6acn7c
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o!
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x = 8, y = 8, rule = B2an3airy4jkrz5ciry6cn/S1e2ckn3cekn4aikqrwz5einqy6ek7c
5bobo$6bo4$o$bo$o!
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x = 7, y = 16, rule = B2cek3iy4ak/S1e2c3ceiry4y
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o3$o$bo$o3$5bo$4bobo!
And using the c/10 diagonal above, here's a 3c/59 orthogonal SMoSMoS:
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x = 7, y = 18, rule = B2ak3aijq4jnqwz5c8/S1e2acn3eij4jqwy5ry
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o5$o$bo$o3$5bo$4bobo!
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x = 7, y = 18, rule = B2ak3aijry4eijn5cijn6ac/S1e2acn3eijky4jnwy5ikr6k
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o5$o$bo$o3$5bo$4bobo!
Another SMoSMoS using the 3c/25 this time, 12c/107 orthogonal
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x = 8, y = 26, rule = B2ce3aijq/S1e2ace3kq4ac5c
5bobo$6bo4$o$bo$o11$o$bo$o4$6bo$5bobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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x = 5, y = 18, rule = B2i3ceqy4aikt5acey6ik8/S2i3aiky4eny5ejky6akn
2bobo$4bo$o2b2o$2bo$3o9$3o$2bo$o2b2o$4bo$2bobo!
3c/27:
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x = 3, y = 13, rule = B2i3acijn4aij6e8/S2ck3ajnry4ajrz5acj7c
2bo$obo$b2o8$b2o$obo$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 15, rule = B2i3ckry4aejwyz5ekqy7/S2n3ejknr4inqrz5aej6eik
bo$2bo$3o10$3o$2bo$bo!
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x = 3, y = 12, rule = B2n3aeijny4az5a6i7c/S2ae3ijnqry4ceijrtyz5acijk6cek7
obo$b2o$bo7$bo$b2o$obo!
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x = 3, y = 13, rule = B2i3ckqy4akqz5iy6k7e8/S2ae3ceqy4ejnqtw5eijqy6ei7c
o$b2o$2o8$2o$b2o$o!
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x = 3, y = 14, rule = B3kqry4c5iy6c/S2n3cikq4ejqrt5cy6ack7e8
bo$2bo$3o9$3o$2bo$bo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Code: Select all
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ei3cjkr4artwy5aekq6ci7e8/S1c2n4ry6c
7bobo$7b3o6$2o$bo$2o!
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x = 10, y = 10, rule = B2ei3ainy4cjkqtw5cnq6cin7e8/S02n3akn4rwyz5iknq6cei7c8
7bobo$7b3o6$2o$bo$2o!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 12, rule = B2ai3ek4kz5in6ac7e8/S012cek3cjkq4ikrwyz5ejnqr6ei7e8
2bo2$obo7$obo2$2bo!
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x = 4, y = 10, rule = B2ce3ceij4aintw5kn6ce7c/S012c3nr4e5jk6cik7e8
o2$obo5$bobo2$bo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Congrats! This is the first asymetric SMOSAforAmpere wrote:
EDIT, a really strange 2c/54 diagonal:Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 10, rule = B2ce3ceij4aintw5kn6ce7c/S012c3nr4e5jk6cik7e8 o2$obo5$bobo2$bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
@AforAmpere: That's quite a nice glide reflective diagonal ship. I haven't searched for many with that kind of geometry, I wonder how frequently they occur?
@Saka: it's not the first, there are some diagonal SMoS using two gliders earlier in the thread (I think by toroidalet)
Here are a few more SMoSMoS using the same diagonal c/10:
orthogonal 4c/140
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x = 7, y = 22, rule = B2cen3aijry4cjnyz5ackq6kn7/S1e2acn3ijy4jwy5cein
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o9$o$bo$o3$5bo$4bobo!
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x = 7, y = 18, rule = B2cen3aijr4ijkn5cnr6n/S1e2acn3ijy4ijknqwy5iky6k7e
4bobo$5bo3$o$bo$o5$o$bo$o3$5bo$4bobo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2ci3aeijq4cjkqtyz5ainr6cek7/S02ce3eny4aknwz5aenry6i8
2obo3$6bo2$6bo$6bo!
c/69 SMOSMOS with that:
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x = 7, y = 20, rule = B2ci3aeijk4jktyz5ckq6ek7/S02ce3ejny4cejqry5ai6ei
6bo$6bo2$6bo3$2obo7$2obo3$6bo2$6bo$6bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
yeah, like a glider and LWSS! maybe it would even move at a 12.5 angle!Macbi wrote:Has anyone tried looking for a SMOS made out of two different ships?
Code: Select all
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Hmm, a T+Glider ship would be kinda likely... unfortunately it's nighttime here so I cant search. My suggestion for you Merricans is to do it in Tlife and do a formation where 2 gliders crash a T from opposite sides...Macbi wrote:Has anyone tried looking for a SMOS made out of two different ships?
I dont think this has a high chance of success  the LWSS is a pretty big ship for a "lightweight" title... it being a knightship is much less likely, considering that no knightSMOS (Or even oblique) have been found.83bismuth38 wrote:yeah, like a glider and LWSS! maybe it would even move at a 12.5 angle!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Code: Select all
x = 6, y = 16, rule = B2ik3aijny4aey5ackr6cn8/S02ace3acjnr4aiwyz5jn6ak
5bo$3bobo$4b2o$bo$2bo$3o5$3o$2bo$bo$4b2o$3bobo$5bo!
Terry Pratchett
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Saka wrote:Congrats! This is the first asymetric SMOS
After review it seems I am wrong. The post I was thinking of was actually by Goldtiger997 and all the results were symmetrical. I think it reminded me of some tests I did with similar glider configurations which were asymmetric.wildmyron wrote:@Saka: it's not the first, there are some diagonal SMoS using two gliders earlier in the thread (I think by toroidalet)
Anyway, here are some results using the small c/4 diagonal related to the Just Friends ship.
standard 2 ship interactions 
ortho 2c/12
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x = 3, y = 7, rule = B2ak3acey4einqwyz5ceik6en/S12ce3acer4cny5cjn6ek8
2bo$2o4$2o$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 13, rule = B2ak3ey4acejqz5ijn6aci/S12ae3aceqy4ciqtyz5en6c
2bo$2o10$2o$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2ce3eiq4ctz5iny/S12n3qy4n5j6c
2bo$2o6$2o$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 9, rule = B2cek3i4atw5er6c7e/S13eiqr4akrw5an
bo$bo$o4$o$bo$bo!
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x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2an3akq4aeijnrw5cikny6ack7/S12a3ciy4aijky5ciky6i
2bo$2o6$2o$2bo!
 in phase, same orientation
diag 2c/40 (glide reflective)
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x = 4, y = 7, rule = B2cei3qy4aciqt5ackny6a/S12an3ceij4akqt5enr
3bo$b2o4$2o$2bo!
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x = 4, y = 7, rule = B2cek3aq4ck5aiky6e7c/S12ae3ein4ejnry5ajk6ai7e
3bo$b2o4$2o$2bo!
diag c/18 (glide reflective)
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x = 3, y = 7, rule = B2ak3iq4ajknz5a/S12cn3ar4ajw5ir
o$b2o3$bo$o$o!
ortho 2c/40
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x = 2, y = 9, rule = B2ce3k4ijktwy5aeqy6an/S12a3cjn4jknrt5ijnr6ik
bo2$2o4$o$bo$bo!
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x = 3, y = 7, rule = B2cen3kqy4acijnqw5cekq6cen/S12i3ejky4acjqw5en
o$b2o4$obo$o!
(works in ~3*10^17 rules)
diag c/37 (works in ~1.3x10^8 rules)
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x = 14, y = 14, rule = B2ak3aey4jknwyz5eiy/S12ce3ar4knw5ai7e
7bo3bo$5bobo3bobo4$bo2$2o4$2o2$bo!
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x = 13, y = 13, rule = B2ak3aekqy4aijnwyz5aj6c7/S12c3ay4nwy5ceikq7e
7bo3bo$7bo3bo$6bo5bo4$2bo$2o4$2o$2bo!

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2a3ckqy4ciry5jnr6ik7c8/S12aek3ej4r6c8
2bo$2o6$2o$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2cei3aq4twyz5cjqr6c7c8/S12c3jk4einrwy5ak6c7e
2bo$2o8$2o$2bo!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
I thought this one was the same as a previous 3c/38 you posted but I see it's differentSaka wrote:3c/38oCode: Select all
x = 3, y = 9, rule = B2a3ckqy4ciry5jnr6ik7c8/S12aek3ej4r6c8 2bo$2o6$2o$2bo!
Nice high period ship.Saka wrote:4c/353oCode: Select all
x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2cei3aq4twyz5cjqr6c7c8/S12c3jk4einrwy5ak6c7e 2bo$2o8$2o$2bo!
The c/10 in the linked post inspired me to try another SMoSMoS search:
diag 2c/68
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2ce3ekq4ceiz5ikq7c/S12n3aqr4ajn5ce
6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5bo5bo3$2bo$2o4$2o$2bo!
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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2ce3ae4eiqt5cenr6k/S123acry4anqy5ckry6an7
6bo3bo$6bo3bo$5bo5bo3$2bo$2o4$2o$2bo!
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x = 15, y = 15, rule = B2ce3aeky4ijkqt5aikny6ac7c/S123acry4knz5ajry6ck7e
12bo$13b2o4$13b2o$12bo6$o5bo$bo3bo$bo3bo!
The c/2 and c/3 ships from AforAmpere's "five 3cell ship" rule make good candidates for this idea.Macbi wrote:Has anyone tried looking for a SMOS made out of two different ships?
ortho c/37
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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B2ekn3akny4acjrtw5acjr6ik7/S02ei3cknqr4aeijk5cej6an78
o6bo$2bo3bo$o6bo!
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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B2ekn3eij4cinrz5ejr6aik8/S02ei3acq4iqtwy5ejnqy6ck7c8
o6bo$2bo3bo$o6bo!
As expected, no result after ~2*10^8 rules. This was in the standard configuration for diagonal ships at the minimum spacing, but not exhaustive due to use of random rule generator.wildmyron wrote:Currently running SMoSMoSMoS search with the c/37. As before, not really expecting to get a result, but who knows.
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Cool! I was not expecting them to use a headon collision.wildmyron wrote:ortho 5c/70  includes bonus OTR reactionCode: Select all
x = 8, y = 3, rule = B2ekn3eij4cinrz5ejr6aik8/S02ei3acq4iqtwy5ejnqy6ck7c8 o6bo$2bo3bo$o6bo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Here's one with an orthogonal placement of the same two ships. The search ran for a lot longer before finding this one.Macbi wrote:Cool! I was not expecting them to use a headon collision.
ortho 2c/58 with c/2 and c/3 ships
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x = 7, y = 7, rule = B2ek3eiknq4eknryz5a6ace/S02ack3cei4eqrty5ejny6a7c
4bobo2$5bo2$o$bo$o!
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Here are 28 SMOSMOSs, found with a mixture of different rulesrc versions, based on a c/2 tship. It contains SMOSs, which then have all the SMOSMOSs that I found of that SMOSs indented below that SMOS. I am currently searching for more.Saka wrote:I did not expect that many SMOSMOS in 1 post!!! I need to search for more soon!
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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B2e3ei/S2ac
o$bo$o2$4bo$3bobo!
B2ek3eij5c/S1e2ack3anq4nq5k (3,3)/ 15
B2e3eij4acr5i/S02acekn3q4aeq (2,2)/ 10
none found with long but nonexaustive search
B2eik3ceijky/S2ack3n (3,3)/ 16
x = 19, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceijky/S2ack3n
o17bo$bo15bo$o17bo2$4bo9bo$3bobo7bobo!
B2eik3anq4ijknqyz5y6e7c8/S1e2ack3ny4inqy5aeqy6e (3,0)/ 56
B2eik3ceijy4at5cijkn7c/S1e2aci3n4q (3,3)/ 18
x = 14, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceijy4at5cijkn7c/S1e2aci3n4q
o12bo$bo10bo$o12bo2$4bo4bo$3bobo2bobo!
B2eik3ceijy4at5ay6ck7/S1e2aci3kn4cekqy5ikqr6k (3,0)/ 90
B2ei3ein4c5cj/S02aci3cny4ain5i6i (2,2)/ 13
none found with long but nonexaustive search
B2eik3eir4cty5ckn6e/S2ac5a (2,2)/ 20
B2ek3ceijnry4ajkn5ijq6kn7c/S2ace3c4ny5k6k (3,3)/ 24
B2eik3ceijqr4cejnq5q7c/S1e2ac3jkqry4anqy5jnr6en (2,2)/ 25
B2eik3ceir4rw5c/S2ack3q5cr (1,1)/ 12
x = 16, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceir4rw5c/S2ack3q5cr
o14bo$bo12bo$o14bo2$4bo6bo$3bobo4bobo!
B2eik3ceiqr4irtw5c6ck/S2ack3jqry4j5cir6ak7c (1,0)/ 53
B2eik3ceinqr4rw5cij6ac/S2ack3kq4t5cjr7c (1,0)/ 57
B2eik3ceinr4eirtw5cinr6c/S2ack3jq4k5acejqr (3,0)/ 55
B2eik3ceinqr4cijrwz5cjnry6ck/S2ack3qr4kz5acry6aek7 (3,0)/ 65
B2eik3ceinqr4qrw5c6e/S2ack3jqry4rtz5cnqr6ckn7c (4,0)/ 91
B2eik3ceinqr4ijrw5c6c/S2ack3kqy4kt5ceir6ce7c (1,0)/ 46
B2eik3ceir4erwz5aceir6kn/S2ack3q4i5acnr (7,0)/ 90
B2eik3ajky4jrtw5cr6c7e/S2ack3jqy4rw5nq6ei7c (3,0)/ 62
B2eik3ceiqr4rtwz5cin6ck/S2ack3jq4k5k6 (3,0)/ 61
B2eik3ajky4rtw5c6/S2ack3qr4ikz57c (1,0)/ 47
B2eik3ceiqr4rwz5ceijy6n/S2ack3cjkqr4ktwz5y6acen7e (2,0)/ 73
B2eik3ajky4ijqrwz5cikry6ck7e/S2ack3ckqry4iktw5ijy (3,0)/ 72
B2eik3ajky4ijrwz5iq/S2ack3qy4t5acr6a7c8 (1,0)/ 50
x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceir4rw5c/S2ack3q5cr
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
B2eik3ceir4jrwz5ciny6n7e/S2ack3jqry4cw5acijry6ce7e (3,0)/ 66
B2eik3ceinqr4irtwz5c6c/S2ack3qr5cr (3,0)/ 97
B2eik3ceiqr4ceijrwz5cijnr6kn8/S2ack3jqry4z5acr6k7e8 (9,0)/ 286
B2eik3ceir4ejrtw5cn6c/S2ack3kqr4z5ceinr6ai7c8 (1,0)/ 59
B2eik3ajky4cirw5jknq6ae7e/S2ack3cjqy4ijrtz5cnry6n7e8 (3,0)/ 157
B2eik3ceij4r5q/S1e2ac4e (1,1)/ 14
x = 16, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceij4r5q/S1e2ac4e
o14bo$bo12bo$o14bo2$4bo6bo$3bobo4bobo!
B2eik3ceijq4enrtz5jqy6ce/S1e2ac3acr4ceikr5ejry6ac7c (3,0)/ 111
B2eik3akry4ceirz5inqr6eik7e/S1e2ac3r4acjnz5ejqy6k7e (3,0)/ 69
B2e3eij4ajk6n/S1e2ac3n4q (2,2)/ 10
x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2e3eij4ajk6n/S1e2ac3n4q
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
B2e3eijnq4ajknryz5cjr6n/S1e2aci3knr4kq7 (5,0)/ 57
B2e3eijnq4ajkqrtz5cnq6aen7/S1e2aci3cnr4jq5qy6k7e (3,0)/ 142
x = 18, y = 6, rule = B2e3eij4ajk6n/S1e2ac3n4q
o16bo$bo14bo$o16bo2$4bo8bo$3bobo6bobo!
B2e3eijnq4aejknryz5cikny6kn/S1e2acei3jny4ijqt5aeqy6e7c (2,0)/ 52
B2e3eijnry4ajk5kn6in7e/S1e2ac3nr4ikqw5eijn6k (4,0)/ 68
B2ek3ceijy4ikt5acr6ck7c/S1e2ace3ar4aejr5nry6k7e (3,3)/ 29
B2e3eijr4aen5acq6n7c8/S2acen3jnq4jkqry5jq6aikn (3,3)/ 21
B2ek3eikn4j8/S01e2ac4ikr (1,1)/ 13
x = 16, y = 6, rule = B2ek3eikn4j8/S01e2ac4ikr
o14bo$bo12bo$o14bo2$4bo6bo$3bobo4bobo!
B2ek3eiknqy4aj5y6k8/S01e2ac3r4iknr (2,0)/ 54
x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3eikn4j8/S01e2ac4ikr
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
B2ek3eikny4j5anry6aek8/S01e2ac4acikry5iq6ak (5,0)/ 104
B2eik3ceiknr4aeknqrtyz5eknqr6aceik/S2ace3cj4ckqw5ckr6e (6,6)/ 42
B2ek3eijn4jnq5nq6e/S2ace4n5e (1,1)/ 51
B2ek3einy5en6cn/S1e2ac3nq4ajr (4,4)/ 38
B2ek3ei4a6a/S2acekn3cjnr4ar5y (1,1)/ 15
B2eik3ceijkry4ik5ckr6an7/S02acekn3nq4arwz5i6ck7c (1,1)/ 33
B2ei3ceijy4n8/S01e2acek3acq4i5cry6ck7c (1,1)/ 24
9c/286:(catagolue)
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x = 19, y = 6, rule = B2eik3ceiqr4ceijrwz5cijnr6kn8/S2ack3jqry4z5acr6k7e8
o17bo$bo15bo$o17bo2$4bo9bo$3bobo7bobo!
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x = 13, y = 6, rule = B2e3eijnq4ajkqrtz5cnq6aen7/S1e2aci3cnr4jq5qy6k7e
o11bo$bo9bo$o11bo2$4bo3bo$3bobobobo!
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x = 17, y = 11, rule = B2eik3ceinqr4ijrw5c6c/S2ack3kqy4kt5ceir6ce7c
3$2bo10bo$3bo8bo$2bo10bo$5bo4bo$4bobo2bobo!
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
I haven't looked at them all, but the c/46 I think is a reasonable candidate  at least as good as any I've posted. It works in 2^28 rules and I ran an unsuccessful search with this patternGoldtiger997 wrote:Some of theses may be viable for SMOSMOSMOS, but it is unlikely.
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x = 21, y = 21, rule = B2eik3ajky4ijrw5c6c/S2ack3kqy4kt5ceir6ce7c
9bo10bo$10bo8bo$9bo10bo$12bo4bo$11bobo2bobo5$obo$bo$4bo$3bo$4bo3$4bo$
3bo$4bo$bo$obo!
I'm now at the point where I don't know what to do with all the results I'm getting. I have about 2500 two glider SMoS, and another 1000 with the same c/2 Tship as above. I honestly don't know how to find the most interesting or useful ones amongst them all, though there are some nice new speeds amongst them which I will try to filter out and post.
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
After further consideration I'm less optimistic about this. It seems to me that a vast majority of them follow an evolutionary path resulting in either just two of the SMoS (as in the pattern above) or a single checker. There's possibly some benefit to constraining the search to include combinations of transitions which don't result in one of those two outcomes, but I don't think I'll bother for this one.wildmyron wrote:I haven't looked at them all, but the c/46 I think is a reasonable candidate  at least as good as any I've posted. It works in 2^28 rules ...Goldtiger997 wrote:Some of theses may be viable for SMOSMOSMOS, but it is unlikely.
I'm not sure there's much interest in that though. But seeing as you asked, I'll try to compile a collection and post it later this week.muzik wrote:Why not just post all of them in a zip file or something?

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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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x = 47, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6c/S1e2ac3ar4cjkwy5aceqr6ekn7c8
o15bo12bo15bo$bo13bo14bo13bobo$o15bo12bo2$4bo7bo20bo$3bobo5bobo18bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6ekn8/S1e2ac3ar4ckw5ciky6ikn7e
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4rz5in6en78/S1e2ac3ar4cikw5qr6kn
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy5in6ci/S1e2ac3ar4eikw5cjkq678
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6ikn8/S1e2ac3ar4jkw5cejr6c
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6kn8/S1e2ac3ar4cekwy5ikr6ak
3bobo5bobo$4bo7bo2$o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in8/S1e2ac3ar4ijkwy5ejqy6ack
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4z5in6ei7c8/S1e2ac3ar4kwy5knr
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
8c/141:
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4z5in6ei78/S1e2ac3ar4jkw5ae6akn
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6i/S1e2ac3ar4ijkw5knr
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6ci7c8/S1e2ac3ar4ekwy5akqy6c
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4rz5in6a/S1e2ac3ar4ikwy5ckqr6akn
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6ik/S1e2ac3ar4cjkw5anqy6a
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy5in6k7c8/S1e2ac3ar4eijkwy5aq6kn
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 19, y = 8, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6ein7c8/S1e2ac3ar4ckwy5iqr6in
$o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4rz5in6ci78/S1e2ac3ar4cijkwy5ay6c7e8
3bobo5bobo$4bo7bo2$o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy5in6ac7c/S1e2ac3ar4ejkw5ejny6ai
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B2ek3einqy4r5in6n7c8/S1e2ac3ar4ckwy5ekq6ckn78
o15bo$bo13bo$o15bo2$4bo7bo$3bobo5bobo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)
Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
That little c/2 sure is the basis for a lot of SMOSMOS. The 6c/89 works in 2^18 rules, which is on the low side to be optimistic. I ran a nonexhaustive search with the standard configuration which almost certainly tried all the rule combinations, but without success. The next most versatile ship is the 6c/180 which works in 2^17 rules.AforAmpere wrote:<snip>Many SMOSMOS, made out of C/25 diagonal ships, made out of C/2's</snip>
The 6c/89 seems to be very common, maybe a SMOSMOSMOS is possible.
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Re: Spaceships made up of other spaceships (SMOS)
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x = 11, y = 3, rule = B2e3aeij4artyz5eikq6kn7c8/S23akn4ejkn5aekqy6ak8
2o7b2o$b2o5b2o$bo7bo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
 Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)