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Re: Larger than Life

Post by rowett » July 2nd, 2017, 11:28 am

Saka wrote:
gameoflifemaniac wrote:Could someone make a Lua script to simulate those Larger than Life rules in Golly?
Ctrl+Shift+O should work if the rules are not changing automatically.
You'll need Golly 3.0b1.

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by gameoflifemaniac » July 2nd, 2017, 12:34 pm

Could someone find a very fast spaceship in a rule that could be simulated in Golly, please?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by gameoflifemaniac » July 2nd, 2017, 12:38 pm

rowett wrote:
Saka wrote:
gameoflifemaniac wrote:Could someone make a Lua script to simulate those Larger than Life rules in Golly?
Ctrl+Shift+O should work if the rules are not changing automatically.
You'll need Golly 3.0b1.
Oh, I have Golly 3.0b1, but just I thought that I could simulate only the rules that were used in the patterns from the Larger than Life folder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by BlinkerSpawn » July 2nd, 2017, 1:04 pm

gameoflifemaniac wrote:Oh, I have Golly 3.0b1, but just I thought that I could simulate only the rules that were used in the patterns from the Larger than Life folder.
Check out the help under "Set Rule" with the Larger Than Life algorithm selected.
gameoflifemaniac wrote:Could someone find a very fast spaceship in a rule that could be simulated in Golly, please?
A 92c/2 spaceship has already been discovered.
LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed]

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 2nd, 2017, 11:33 pm

Some cool things
Rule 1:
Stable, Interest rating 3/5, could have some interesting things, but very stable.
2c/2

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = R2,C3,M0,S3..4,B4..4,NM:T400,400
3.2B$4.2A$B3.2A$B3.2A$4.2A$3.2B!
p22, sparky

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x = 6, y = 6, rule = R2,C3,M0,S3..4,B4..4,NM:T400,400
2.A$B4.A$A.3BA$A.3BA$B4.A$2.A!
Rule 2:
Stable, Interest rating 4/5, definitely cool.
c (?) puffer

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x = 30, y = 28, rule = R2,C6,M0,S2..4,B4..4,NM:T400,400
4$17.A$16.A$17.A7$12.D$12.D$6.3A.E$5.4AD$7.BD.E.D.C$7.B.4D$5.A4B4D2A$
15.2A5.A.A$5.A2.B4.2B2A6.A$5.A9.B$6.2B3D.B3.A$6.3B3DA2B$6.3B2D2A$5.A
2.B3.3A$6.3A!
(282,118)c/288 knightship, REALLY cool, sparky

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = R2,C6,M0,S2..4,B4..4,NM:T400,400
10.A$6.B.2C3A$4.2A.3C3A$3.3A.E3CA$3.2A2.3E$.A.C3.3E$.2D2C3.E$.A.B2A.
3CA$CAE2A.A2C.2A$.2E.3A2C.2A$2.4ED4A$D.2E3.3A$3.E!
BONUS:
Extensible (via #states) 10c/16 snake:

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x = 163, y = 10, rule = R2,C255,M0,S3..4,B4..4,NM:T400,400
5.H9.X9.pP9.qH9.qX9.rP9.sH9.sX9.tP9.uH9.uX9.vP9.wH9.wX9.xP9.yH$5.I2.K
L.L3.pA2.pCpD.pD3.pQ2.pSpT.pT3.qI2.qKqL.qL3.rA2.rCrD.rD3.rQ2.rSrT.rT
3.sI2.sKsL.sL3.tA2.tCtD.tD3.tQ2.tStT.tT3.uI2.uKuL.uL3.vA2.vCvD.vD3.vQ
2.vSvT.vT3.wI2.wKwL.wL3.xA2.xCxD.xD3.xQ2.xSxT.xT3.yI2.yKyL.yL$3.H.3IH
3L.X.3pAX3pD.pP.3pQpP3pT.qH.3qIqH3qL.qX.3rAqX3rD.rP.3rQrP3rT.sH.3sIsH
3sL.sX.3tAsX3tD.tP.3tQtP3tT.uH.3uIuH3uL.uX.3vAuX3vD.vP.3vQvP3vT.wH.3wI
wH3wL.wX.3xAwX3xD.xP.3xQxP3xT.yH.3yIyH3yL$3.HE3IML2NMXU3pApEpD2pFpEpP
pM3pQpUpT2pVpUqHqE3qIqMqL2qNqMqXqU3rArErD2rFrErPrM3rQrUrT2rVrUsHsE3sI
sMsL2sNsMsXsU3tAtEtD2tFtEtPtM3tQtUtT2tVtUuHuE3uIuMuL2uNuMuXuU3vAvEvD
2vFvEvPvM3vQvUvT2vVvUwHwE3wIwMwL2wNwMwXwU3xAxExD2xFxExPxM3xQxUxT2xVxU
yHyE3yIyMyL2yNyM$4.FIFGK2N2P.VpAVWpC2pF2pH.pNpQpNpOpS2pV2pX.qFqIqFqGqK
2qN2qP.qVrAqVqWrC2rF2rH.rNrQrNrOrS2rV2rX.sFsIsFsGsK2sN2sP.sVtAsVsWtC
2tF2tH.tNtQtNtOtS2tV2tX.uFuIuFuGuK2uN2uP.uVvAuVuWvC2vF2vH.vNvQvNvOvS
2vV2vX.wFwIwFwGwK2wN2wP.wVxAwVwWxC2xF2xH.xNxQxNxOxS2xV2xX.yFyIyFyGyK
2yN$A2.C2F2H.NQNOS2V2X.pFpIpFpGpK2pN2pP.pVqApVpWqC2qF2qH.qNqQqNqOqS2qV
2qX.rFrIrFrGrK2rN2rP.rVsArVrWsC2sF2sH.sNsQsNsOsS2sV2sX.tFtItFtGtK2tN
2tP.tVuAtVtWuC2uF2uH.uNuQuNuOuS2uV2uX.vFvIvFvGvK2vN2vP.vVwAvVvWwC2wF
2wH.wNwQwNwOwS2wV2wX.xFxIxFxGxK2xN2xP.xVyAxVxWyC2yF2yH.yN.yN$3AED2FEP
M3QUT2VUpHpE3pIpMpL2pNpMpXpU3qAqEqD2qFqEqPqM3qQqUqT2qVqUrHrE3rIrMrL2rN
rMrXrU3sAsEsD2sFsEsPsM3sQsUsT2sVsUtHtE3tItMtL2tNtMtXtU3uAuEuD2uFuEuPuM
3uQuUuT2uVuUvHvE3vIvMvL2vNvMvXvU3wAwEwD2wFwEwPwM3wQwUwT2wVwUxHxE3xIxM
xL2xNxMxXxU3yAyEyD2yFyE.yM$4A3D.P.3QP3T.pH.3pIpH3pL.pX.3qApX3qD.qP.3qQ
qP3qT.rH.3rIrH3rL.rX.3sArX3sD.sP.3sQsP3sT.tH.3tItH3tL.tX.3uAtX3uD.uP.
3uQuP3uT.vH.3vIvH3vL.vX.3wAvX3wD.wP.3wQwP3wT.xH.3xIxH3xL.xX.3yAxX3yD$
A2.CD.D3.Q2.ST.T3.pI2.pKpL.pL3.qA2.qCqD.qD3.qQ2.qSqT.qT3.rI2.rKrL.rL
3.sA2.sCsD.sD3.sQ2.sSsT.sT3.tI2.tKtL.tL3.uA2.uCuD.uD3.uQ2.uSuT.uT3.vI
2.vKvL.vL3.wA2.wCwD.wD3.wQ2.wSwT.wT3.xI2.xKxL.xL3.yA2.yCyD.yD$10.P9.pH
9.pX9.qP9.rH9.rX9.sP9.tH9.tX9.uP9.vH9.vX9.wP9.xH9.xX!
EDIT:
Rule 3:
Stable, interest rating, 2/5, OK, has some gliders. I call this "Mini bugs"
c/4d and c/3d

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = R2,C0,M0,S6..9,B7..8,NM:T400,400
2b2o$2o2bo$2o2bo$b3o$2bo2$9bo$7b2o$6b2o3bo$7b2obo$8b3o$9bo!
and c/5o

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = R2,C0,M0,S6..9,B7..8,NM:T400,400
b2o$2obo$o2bo$2obo$b2o!
EDIT2:
Rule 4:
Stable, interest rating 2/5, OK, has some gliders. I call this "Balloons"
c/2 "Exhale Balloons" and p3 "Inhale Balloons"

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x = 7, y = 36, rule = R2,C0,M0,S6..9,B7..11,NM:T400,400
b4o$2o3bo$o4bo$2o3bo$b4o6$b5o$2o4bo$o5bo$o5bo$2o4bo$b5o8$2b3o$bo3bo$bo
3bo$2b3o5$2b4o$bo4bo$bo4bo$bo4bo$2b4o!
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by AforAmpere » July 3rd, 2017, 5:34 pm

(17,18)c/23, I thought it was diagonal, but it is just a bit off from that:

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x = 20, y = 22, rule = R2,C6,M0,S4..5,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
4.A$2.3A2B$2AB3C2.B$2ABCD3C.3A$3A2E5CB2A$2.C4ECD2CB2A$5.E.2ED2CBA$8.
2ED2CBA$9.2EDC2A$10.2E2B$11.ED$12.D$13.E2$14.E2$15.E$15.D3A$15.D2CBA$
13.C2D2CBA$14.BC2A$15.BA!
Actually, this rule is pretty interesting, with a 20c/20, a (17,18)c/23 knightship, a 3c/5 diagonal, and a c/2 diagonal:

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x = 134, y = 26, rule = R2,C6,M0,S4..5,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
5.2A27.A48.3A7.3A3.B28.2A$4.A2B2A23.3A2B44.2AB2DB5.3A4C3A25.BABA$2.2A
BC2B2A20.2AB3C2.B41.A2BC2EB5.AB7CB2A22.DBDC2A$2.A2B2D2BA20.2ABCD3C.3A
38.A3B2EC5.A2C4E2D2BA22.D.E2C2A$.A2B2DE3A20.3A2E5CB2A37.A2BE8.B2E3.2E
2D2BA23.2E2CBA$ABC2D2EC24.C4ECD2CB2A37.ADA7.CD2E4.2E2DCA24.2ED2A$A2BD
2E7.3A19.E.2ED2CBA38.D9.C3E4.2EDCAB25.2B$.3AB8.3BA21.2ED2CBA38.2E8.2D
6.2E2C25.2D$2.A9.D3BA22.2EDC2A57.E2C$12.D2EBA23.2E2B58.E2C$13.2EC25.E
D56.E2.E2CA$15.D26.D55.D3E2C2A$14.E28.E54.D3ECB2A$99.CDB3A$44.E55.C2$
45.E$45.D3A$45.D2CBA$43.C2D2CBA52.C2B$44.BC2A54.2EDA$45.BA51.E3.2EDA$
98.E.AEBCBA$99.2D3BA$100.A3BA$101.3A!
Another rule with a 3c/4 diagonal:

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = R2,C6,M0,S5..7,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
4.A$.AB2A2B$3A3CB$3A3CDE$2AD2C.DE$A2B3E$.2C3E$2.D2E$2.2D!
EDIT, 6c/7 (48c/56) and a super high period oscillator:

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x = 254, y = 71, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..8,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
51.3A$50.5A$50.AC2ACE$49.A3B2D3.2E2CB$49.A.C3D3.2D2BA$49.2A2B.2D2.2D
2C.A$50.2ACA2EBCED2B2A$50.4A2CDC2AB2A$53.2A2BACAB.A$57.5A$198.3A$197.
3ABC3D$196.2A2BDB3E.D.C$196.2ABDCECE.E.2DC$196.4AC6E.C2D$197.ACED5.4E
CDB$201.D5.4EB2C$205.E.E.2ECEC$3.C.B2CB2A176.B2.4A17.3D$.BC4DC2BA174.
B2CBCB4A17.DEB2A$.BC4DA2BA173.B2C.2DACB3A.C15.EB3A$.2C4DACA174.BEC2DE
A.CB2A3.2CB10.CACA.B$2.E3.C178.EC.DCB2C2A5DBCB8.EDB3C3A$.ED171.2B.D2E
5.E4.E2AB6D2CB8.DEBD2C.2A$.E171.2B2CEDE11.2ED2E.2D.DC11.BE.C2A$172.A
3CE13.D2E.C.D2.D.E10.D2E2D2B.A$169.3ACA2D.C11.E.2D.D4.ED12.CEDAB.BA$.
E167.3A.4D2.E30.E4.E.B.BA$.ED24.B141.2ABA3D.C15.C18.D.ED2B.BA$.AEAD2E
18.AC2BC139.A.2ADE.C16.C.D16.C3D3B$A3BDED15.3A2C2DC138.A.C.EB19.E2D
17.3D.B2A$A3BCAD14.A.3B3DCE136.2A.2CE20.C.CE14.2C2DAC3A$A3B.AC14.A3B
3DE138.4ACE20.E2BC15.4CA$A.AB.B15.A4B.2E139.3BED.C2.E11.E.DB.3AB14.3B
$.4A16.A.CB.C141.2B.2D18.2EDCA$22.2AED141.A.B.BDED2C14.BCDC2A$23.EDB
142.A3B3D14.AEA3C3A$24.2CDC140.A.3B.D2C12.ABA2C.3A$24.CDE142.A3BAC9.
4A.2AB2ABA$24.E2D143.A.BAB8.3AB2A2.3A$23.E.E145.4A7.A.2B2CA2.2A$182.
2A2BC.4A$183.AEACDC3A$183.A.CAD2C.2A$184.E2.DE2CAB$188.BE2CB$184.E4.
3C$189.D2C$188.DE2C$186.EB3C.B40.8A$186.ED3CB40.8A.A$186.2B2CAB40.4A
2C2AB.A$187.2BAB42.2B3C2AB2A$23.4A160.3A42.3ACDADC.B2A$22.A2B2A35.3A
3.2E162.AB.B.E2D2C.2A$21.2A.2B2A33.A.B2A169.DC2EB2C.2A$20.A.4BDA32.2A
2BAC172.B2EC2A.A$20.2ABCE2AE31.2A3BAD4.2ED157.E8.2E.2A.A$20.2AB2D2E
32.2ABDC.D5.2D157.E5.D3ECDC3A$20.ABCAB35.A2C3E3.3ECD154.DE5.C.E.ECD2A
.A$22.C3D.E32.2AC3E2.4E2C154.DE4.E.EBC.2C3A4.2A$25.E33.3ADCE.E.4ED
155.DEC3.CD.4CABA3.BA.ABA$59.A.2AD2CD4E.D155.CAEB.2DBD3C.B5.CBCABA$
60.3A3C2DC.2D155.3AB5D.B2.B4.2ECBCACA$61.2A.B2ACD158.2A.BA2D.C2B4.E3.
D.3DCA$62.5AB160.2A2CB.C7.E4.2E2D2B$63.A2.2A162.2AB9.E4.C3DB$65.A183.
A2C2A$248.CACA$248.B2AB$249.3A!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules.

Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule
- Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by toroidalet » July 3rd, 2017, 7:01 pm

(1,6)c/8 (p128):

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x = 105, y = 175, rule = R2,C5,M0,S6..8,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
40.D.D$42.D.D$41.D4.D2$47.DC$45.C.D$43.D2.2D2$45.D50$24.C2.2C$23.2C3D
.C$23.D.4DC$25.4D2B$26.3D.C$28.2C$28.D$99.A2.2A$98.2A2B3A$98.2A3B2A$
4.2A2B90.BD2CB2A$3.3A3C89.BD2CD2A$3.2A2BAD89.C3.BC$4.2B3D.C92.C$4.2BC
.DC90.3D$3.A.3B2A8.A3.C2D76.2D$4.A3BA6.4A2BC2D76.3C$4.A.2B2A4.A.2A.AB
C.D$5.4A5.A3B2C2.D$15.3BC.B$15.3B2DC$14.3A2DB$14.ACA2D$17.3DC80.D$16.
CB2D80.CD$17.CABC78.2D2C$17.2BC76.C.2D.2B$17.A2B77.4DCB$97.C2DC$97.C.
BC9$17.3D2$49.2A$26.D21.4B$26.D5.B13.AB3CB8.3A$32.BACBA8.2A.3C.B6.5A$
27.D3.BDCB2A8.3A3CD8.3B.A$30.C.D.B2A8.4A2.CD5.DABDB2A$29.2DC5A8.2ABD
9.DCADB2A$32.B2A15.D10.C3A$69.2D7$.4A$2A2B2A67.D$AC2B2A66.2D$2ABCAB$
2.2DAC$.C2D2C$4.D5$54.3A.3A$53.4A.ABA$53.4A.A2BC$53.3A2C.A.A$53.A.D2C
.D2CD$54.CAB2.A.B3A$54.C2B2.BAB3A$11.2BC41.3D.A.BA.A$10.C2D47.4A$9.A
3C2.D$8.A3BD$8.2A.2D2.D$7.A.2A2CD$8.3A3CB$8.3A3CB$9.A2BA.B13$53.3A$
30.2A2B16.4C3A$29.A2B2.A2BA6.3A2CB2.B2ACA$27.ABA6C3A4.3ACA6D2AC$26.3A
CA.4C4A3.A4B6DCBD$26.3A4C.3C3A4.2B.4D2.D2.CD$26.2AD3C3.DADBA4.3B$25.
3AC8.BCA3.2ACABC9.D$26.ACB3.CBCB2C6.2AD11.D$27.B2DCDBD.2DB20.D$28.D.B
.DCBC21.D$29.C.C24.C$56.BAD$40.BC2D11.B2CABA$40.3B.C10.B2C3A$40.A3C
13.D3A$40.A2C11.DCBAB2A$40.BA2CD.C6.D.C$40.3AC2DBD5.D$40.2A2BCDA.B4.D
$40.3A3BACA$41.2A.B3A$43.A.2A!
p56 rotary oscillator:

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x = 10, y = 26, rule = R2,C5,M0,S6..8,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
4.A$.2A2.3A$A.3B4A$2A3B.AC2B$A4B2D2CB$A.2C3D2CB$.3AD3.D$.B2C4.D$4.D
14$4.2D$4.D2$7.D!
2c/3 diagonal:

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x = 6, y = 8, rule = R2,C5,M0,S6..8,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
2.3A$.5A$2AB.AC$BCB2AD$BD.DBD$2C$.D$D!
p16:

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x = 19, y = 21, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..8,B5..7,NM:T2000,2000
12.E2D2E$12.E3.DE$5.2E4.2E4.2D$17.ED$16.2E8$4.E.E2.3A$2.2E4.EC3A$2ADC
3.DA3B$A3BD.E2D3B$.3B5D.2BA$A5BDC3A.A$A.ABC2A2CB2A$.2A2.2A.A$4.2A.A!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by AforAmpere » July 3rd, 2017, 8:13 pm

What period and speed is this ship?

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x = 38, y = 30, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..7,B5..8,NM:T2000,2000
12.2A.2A$11.A4B2A$10.A.5B2.A$10.A3B2C3B.2A$11.ADB2D5B2A$2.2C7.2ECDE2D
C2B2A$2.3D7.E2.4DC2B2A$.D2ED7.E4.ED2CB2A$CD2E13.2EBD2B$.D2ED13.2E2C$.
D16.2ECD$18.4D$19.E6$30.4A$29.5A$28.2AC2B2A$28.BCBD.C2A$29.EB2DAC2A$
30.C3DCB2A$31.2E2DB2A$32.EAD2B$32.3C2B$30.3ED3BA$32.DB4A$33.4A!
And a rake for that thing:

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x = 121, y = 133, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..7,B5..8,NM:T2000,2000
4$108.3A$107.B4A$107.CACABA$106.EDA3CB$107.DED2CAB$106.E.2E3CBA$109.
2E2CB2A$109.2ECDC3A$110.2EDC3A$110.2EDC3A$108.D.2E2C.2A$109.2ED2C.2A$
107.E2.2DAB2A$109.3DC3A$109.2DBC3A$108.E2D3A$96.E8.2DE2DBCA$103.D2.4D
CB$94.E6.D.6DBCB$94.2E5.E4D.2BC2A$94.DE2B.5D2.2CB2A$94.ADB4E2D.C3.2A$
94.A2B2CB4C$94.2A5BAB$94.2A5B2A$95.2A4.2A$98.2A33$38.4E$41.2D$41.E2CA
$39.3DACA$33.ED4.E2D2B2A$33.C4.E3D2B.A$31.C2DE.5DBCBA$30.2B2D2E3DABC
2A$30.ACB5DAC3A$30.A2BC3B2C3A$30.2A6B2A37.C2D$31.2A5BA13.E23.CE$32.2A
2.2A13.D3E21.DECDE$35.A15.DE22.2DE$51.DED21.2CE13.E2D$52.2C20.2ACEDE
4.E6.2EDC$52.CED19.A3BDED8.3E2CB$52.BDE19.A3B4D5.2E.E3CB$53.DED18.A.
3B5D2.4E3CABA$52.ACBECB17.2ABCBA2D2ED3E4C2A$52.3A2C3E.E14.2A2B3C3DCD
4CABA$52.3A4CD2E16.3A2BA3C.2C2ABA$52.5ACB2D19.4A5C2B2A$54.3A2BC21.6A
2B2A$56.2A25.3AB2A$85.2A17$41.E$41.E$38.E2$36.D.E$35.D.ED$35.D.CDC$
36.2EDC$35.2EBD2B$34.3ED3A$34.2EBDC2A$34.2E2C3A$24.E8.E2D2C2A$23.E7.C
3D2CB2A$23.ED5.C3D2AB2A$24.E4.2ED2BC4A$25.2ED2ED2C5A$27.2DC!
13c/17 (26c/34) diagonal:

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x = 9, y = 10, rule = R2,C6,M0,S7..8,B5..8,NM:T2000,2000
.4A$3AB.A$2A4B2A$2C2BCB2A$3DBCBC2A$DEDEDC2BA$2EDEDECB$4.C2D$6.E$7.E!
4c/5 diagonal:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..6,B5..9,NM:T2000,2000
2.3A$.4B2A$.3CAB2A$ED4C2BA$D2E2DC2B2A$.3E2D2CBA$E2.2E2DCABA$4.2ED2CBA
$5.2E2CBA$5.2EDCB$4.E.DE!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules.

Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule
- Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by dvgrn » July 3rd, 2017, 8:57 pm

AforAmpere wrote:What period and speed is this ship?

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x = 38, y = 30, rule = R2,C6,M0,S6..7,B5..8,NM:T2000,2000
12.2A.2A$11.A4B2A$10.A.5B2.A$10.A3B2C3B.2A$11.ADB2D5B2A$2.2C7.2ECDE2D
C2B2A$2.3D7.E2.4DC2B2A$.D2ED7.E4.ED2CB2A$CD2E13.2EBD2B$.D2ED13.2E2C$.
D16.2ECD$18.4D$19.E6$30.4A$29.5A$28.2AC2B2A$28.BCBD.C2A$29.EB2DAC2A$
30.C3DCB2A$31.2E2DB2A$32.EAD2B$32.3C2B$30.3ED3BA$32.DB4A$33.4A!
Impressive! It's 262c/346 diagonal. Scripts/lua/oscar.lua could tell you this kind of thing very quickly. Makes a reflected copy of itself every 173 ticks.

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by AforAmpere » July 3rd, 2017, 9:51 pm

(1,8)c/6 knightship!

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = R2,C6,M0,S9..12,B5..10,NM:T2000,2000
4.4A$3.3A.2A$3.BA2BABA$3.CA3B2A$2.CDA3BCA$2.2DE3AD$2.2E3DED$4.C.EDE$.
E2.2D$E3.3E2.E!
I don't know what this thing is:

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x = 48, y = 33, rule = R2,C6,M0,S10..18,B5..10,NM:T2000,2000
28.C2B3A$26.3D2CAB2A$26.3EAD4A$22.2B2AC.8A$20.D2C2A.B4AB4A$19.2E2.A.
2A2EA2C.4A$15.B2ADB.6AE.2AC5A$14.2CB.6A2.2A2EB2C.4A$12.2E.5A2.2A2.2AE
.A2C5A$14.DB4A.A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$4.ADCBE3.2DCA.A2.A2.AB2.3A.4AB3A$4.E.
2A.DE.A.A3.A.2A.BCA.2A.EAD2A.4A$3.2B4ADA.C3A.2A.2A.CDCB.3A2.2A2B3A$2.
DC7A2B5A2.2A.A2DB.5AD2A.4A$2.ECA2.3AEB.E6A.3ADECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$.2DCB.A
.2A.2C.3A4.3AC.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$E.ECAB2.A.ABDCBAE2CEA.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B
3A$3.DABA.3A.2D.AB2D2B.2A.EB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$3.E2BA.2A2.AE.D4.E.2A.2ABC
.DACB.2ACB4A$3.E2CB2.5A2EC3.ACDA.A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$4.DCDB.2A.2ACD5.B7A
2B.ABE.2ACB4A$5.2EDB5A2BE4.B.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$4.E3.E2CB2ACE5.CEABD
A2.2A2.2AE.8A$9.E2D2C2D6.D2C2BCA.2A.2A.E2ADA.4A$12.E6.E3.D2CAC2A2B2.
3A.AD2AB3A$19.2E3.DED.BD2CB.2A.2AD2A.4A$25.E2.CEDED3A.2A.D2AB3A$30.E
2.DC4B2D2A.4A$33.C2EDACA2DAB4A$34.CD2A2CBD4ABA$38.E2CBEACB2A$38.BD.E
2DCBA$41.EDC!
I and wildmyron manage the 5S project, which collects all known spaceship speeds in Isotropic Non-totalistic rules.

Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule
- Finish a rule with ships with period >= f_e_0(n) (in progress)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 3rd, 2017, 10:12 pm

AforAmpere wrote:
I don't know what this thing is:

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qwertyuiop
Growing ship
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 3rd, 2017, 10:27 pm

Another "Miniature bugs" rule, this time with a c/3o and a c/14d:

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x = 6, y = 18, rule = R3,C0,M0,S15..22,B14..25,NM:T4000,4000
2b3o$b5o$6o$6o$b5o$2b3o8$b5o$6o$b5o$b4o$b3o!

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x = 57, y = 34, rule = R3,C0,M0,S15..22,B14..25,NM:T4000,4000
ob2obobob2o7bo2bo2b2o3b2ob2obob3obo3bo4b3o$bo2b5obo2bo4b2ob2ob2o5bo4bo
b6ob2obo2bo2b2o$ob5o3bo4bobobobo2b3o4bo2b2o2b2obo2bo4bo3bo2bo$o4b2o2bo
2bob3ob2ob4o2b3o4bob3o2b4o2b2ob5o$ob4obobo2b5o3b2ob2obobob2obob3o2bobo
4bob2ob5o$ob4ob3obo2b2o3b2ob2obob2obobobobo2b3o5bobobobob2o$o3b2ob4o2b
ob2o3bo3bob2o2b2ob3obo3bo3bo2b4obo2bo$obob7ob2ob2o2bo2b2o3b3o2bo3b2ob
4obobobob6o$3obo2bob2o3b2obob2o4b5ob3ob3ob3obo3b3ob5o$4bo2b2ob2o2b2o3b
ob2obo2b2o4bobobobo2bo2bob2obo2bo$5bob5o2bo3b3ob5o2b2ob4ob2o3bob2o4bo
3b3o$3b3o2b2o5b2ob2o2bo2bo4b6o2bo4bobobo2b4o2bo$2b3ob4obo2bo4bo3b5o2bo
bo6b3o2b3obo2bo2bo$2ob3o3b3ob3ob5o2bo2bob2obo4bob2obobob2ob4ob2o$bob2o
b2o4bo2b2o3b2o2bob3obo2bo2b2o5b2o2bo2b2o2bobo$4bobobo2bo3bo2b4o2bo3bob
o3bobo2bo3bob4obo2bob2o$2bob2ob2obo3bo3bo2bo2bo2bob2ob2o7bo2b4o2b3obob
o$2o2bobob4obobo3b3obobob3o3bo2bobo3b2obo2b3obo$b2o3b3o3b3obo3bob2obob
ob2o2b2obo5b4o2bo2b5o$3ob2o2b4o5b2obo4bo2bo2bob2ob2o5bobobo2b2obo$ob2o
2bobo3bobobo2b4o2bo2b2obo2b5o4b3obo5b4o$b2o2bobob2obob2o6b10ob2o4bobob
7o3bobo$2bobo3bo2b2o2b5o2b3ob2o3b3o3b4ob2obo2b2o5b2o$3bo2b3o3bob4ob4ob
o2b4o2b4o4bo3bobo7bo$2o2bob2obo4b4obobo4bo2b3o4b2obo4b5ob2ob4o$2ob4o2b
o5b5obo4b5o2bobo3bo2b4o2bo2b4obo$b6obo2bo2bo2bo3b4ob5obo7b2o2bob2o2bob
obobo$5o6bo4b2ob4o3bo3bobo2bo2bo7b2ob2obo$2bo3bob2ob2obobobo4b2o2bo3b
2o2bo2bobob2o3b2o2b3o$3ob2o2bob3obo3bob2o3b2o2b4o4bob2o2bob3o3b4obo$5b
2obo3b2ob6obo2bo4b2o3bob2o2b2ob4ob2o2b2o$b2o3b2ob2o2bo2b4ob5o2bobo2bob
o2b3o2bo3b2o2bo2b3o$b4o2b3o2bobob3obo7b2o4b5ob2obo2bob2o3b4o$obo8bo2bo
3bo2b3o6b2ob2o2b6o3bob2o2bo2b2o!
----Le EDIT Line----
I have found some Bugs-like rules!!
But before we start, I would like to share an oscillator I call the kiwi-grandma

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = R5,C0,M0,S40..58,B32..50,NM:T4000,4000
3b4o$5b3o$o2b5o$2b5o$ob5o$ob5o$8o$o2b5o$3b5o!
Rule 1:
A c/4

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x = 8, y = 9, rule = R5,C0,M0,S38..57,B32..50,NM:T4000,4000
2bo$5obo$6obo$7o$7o$7o$7o$6obo$5obo!
Rule 2: "Suicidal Bugs"
17c/25d:

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x = 11, y = 11, rule = R5,C0,M0,S36..58,B33..49,NM:T4000,4000
3b6o$2b8o$b8o$10o$5o2b3o$4o5b2o$4o5bo$5o3b2o$5o2b2o$bob5o$5bo!
Rule 3:
13c/18o and c/2d

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x = 28, y = 11, rule = R5,C0,M0,S34..58,B34..51,NM:T4000,4000
4b4o11b5o$3b6o10b6o$2b8o8b8o$2b8o8b9o$b4o2b4o6b3o3b5o$4o4b4o5b2o5b4o$
4o4b4o5b2o4b5o$b3o4b3o6b3o3b4o$2b2o4b2o8b3ob4o$3b6o10b5o$4b4o13b2o!
Rule 4:
2c/4o and 8c/16d

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x = 33, y = 12, rule = R5,C0,M1,S34..58,B34..51,NM:T4000,4000
26b3o$5b3o17b5o$3b6o14b4o2b2o$b9o12b4o4b2o$b4o4b2o10b5o5b2o$5o4b2o10b
4o6b2o$5o4b2o10b5o4b3o$b4o4b2o11b5ob4o$b9o13b8o$3b6o15b7o$5b3o17b5o$
26b3o!
These rules might be worth investigating (for spaceships of course!)
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
(Check gen 2)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Ethanagor » July 3rd, 2017, 11:13 pm

AforAmpere wrote:(1,8)c/6 knightship!

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x = 10, y = 10, rule = R2,C6,M0,S9..12,B5..10,NM:T2000,2000
4.4A$3.3A.2A$3.BA2BABA$3.CA3B2A$2.CDA3BCA$2.2DE3AD$2.2E3DED$4.C.EDE$.
E2.2D$E3.3E2.E!
I don't know what this thing is:

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x = 48, y = 33, rule = R2,C6,M0,S10..18,B5..10,NM:T2000,2000
28.C2B3A$26.3D2CAB2A$26.3EAD4A$22.2B2AC.8A$20.D2C2A.B4AB4A$19.2E2.A.
2A2EA2C.4A$15.B2ADB.6AE.2AC5A$14.2CB.6A2.2A2EB2C.4A$12.2E.5A2.2A2.2AE
.A2C5A$14.DB4A.A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$4.ADCBE3.2DCA.A2.A2.AB2.3A.4AB3A$4.E.
2A.DE.A.A3.A.2A.BCA.2A.EAD2A.4A$3.2B4ADA.C3A.2A.2A.CDCB.3A2.2A2B3A$2.
DC7A2B5A2.2A.A2DB.5AD2A.4A$2.ECA2.3AEB.E6A.3ADECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$.2DCB.A
.2A.2C.3A4.3AC.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$E.ECAB2.A.ABDCBAE2CEA.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B
3A$3.DABA.3A.2D.AB2D2B.2A.EB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$3.E2BA.2A2.AE.D4.E.2A.2ABC
.DACB.2ACB4A$3.E2CB2.5A2EC3.ACDA.A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$4.DCDB.2A.2ACD5.B7A
2B.ABE.2ACB4A$5.2EDB5A2BE4.B.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$4.E3.E2CB2ACE5.CEABD
A2.2A2.2AE.8A$9.E2D2C2D6.D2C2BCA.2A.2A.E2ADA.4A$12.E6.E3.D2CAC2A2B2.
3A.AD2AB3A$19.2E3.DED.BD2CB.2A.2AD2A.4A$25.E2.CEDED3A.2A.D2AB3A$30.E
2.DC4B2D2A.4A$33.C2EDACA2DAB4A$34.CD2A2CBD4ABA$38.E2CBEACB2A$38.BD.E
2DCBA$41.EDC!
Most patterns in this rule explode quadratically, but many spaceships, rakes, puffers, wicks, etc. can be found. 15c/15:

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x = 82, y = 76, rule = R2,C6,M0,S10..18,B5..10,NM:T10000,10000
71.4A$70.4B3A$69.4C6A$68.4D8A$67.4E3A.B5A$62.4A4.6A2B3A$61.4B3A.4A2D
2AB4A$60.4C3A.3A.4D4ABA$59.4D7A3.C3D2ACBA$58.4E3A.4A2C.2C2DBDCBA$61.
3A.C2A.AED2.3CEDCB$57.2A.5AD2A.2B2.2DC.EDC$56.2B.3A.4A2DA2.3E2.ED$55.
2C4A2.2A.ABC8.E$54.2D.8A$53.2E.2AC.3ACDE$54.4A2.BDEBE$51.6A2BC.2A$50.
2B.3A.DE$49.2C.3A.AE.E$48.2D.5ACD$47.2E.2A2.BCE$48.B3A2.BDE$45.2AC4A.
ADC$44.2B3A2.4A$43.AC.3A2.2ABD$42.AD.5A.ACBE$41.EB.2A2.3AE2A$39.E2.4A
2.3ADB$36.A2BAC8A.AC$35.ABC.A.2A2.4AEBAE$35.BCA.6A.3AB$33.E.2D5A.D.C
2D2A$33.3EA.3A2.B.2E2C$37.AD3AE$32.7A.ADC$31.ABD3A.AEDCB$29.2BC.5A.2C
B$28.2CD2.4A.AB$27.CAE4A2.EBA$26.BD.5A3.BA$25.ABD3A.4ACB$24.ACBA.2A2.
3AECE$24.BCE.3A3.3AD$21.E.ED3A.5A.A.C$20.E2.2A.2A2.5AEDB$22.CB6A.5AC$
21.AE2A.A.2C.2A.DCB$19.2BD.3A.DE3BEDCB$17.3CDCA.2ADB.AEA$16.2DA2.A.AD
CA$16.DEB2A2.2BA.E$14.2E.5A.EC.2E$15.A2.6ACD$13.DB4A2.3AD$11.EAC5A2.
2ADC$10.DE4A.5AEC$11.ED.2A2.3A2.B$12.D3A3.4A$13.BC4A.2A$13.EBA.5AE$
14.D.5A.D$16.4A.E$14.2ECBA.E$14.C2D2ED$16.DC4$E$2.DCE$.D4CD$.D3CD$.ED
CBD.E$4.2E$4.E!
Saka wrote:
AforAmpere wrote:
I don't know what this thing is:

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qwertyuiop
Growing ship
...But it doesn't grow?
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 3rd, 2017, 11:23 pm

Ethanagor wrote:
Saka wrote:
AforAmpere wrote:
I don't know what this thing is:

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qwertyuiop
Growing ship
...But it doesn't grow?
It does
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
(Check gen 2)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by BlinkerSpawn » July 3rd, 2017, 11:28 pm

The pattern at left turns into the pattern at right after 45 generations.
It lengthens.

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x = 182, y = 49, rule = R2,C6,M0,S10..18,B5..10,NM:T200,200
157.A$28.3A124.3B2A$25.D2C3B2A119.E2D3CABA$23.3E2DAC3A120.2EADAC3A$
22.A3.AE6A114.2B3AB.7A$18.3C2BD.A.2A2B3A112.2D2CA.6A.4A$16.2E2DAE.6AB
.4A110.3EA.4A.D2A2B3A$18.A.6A.D2A2B3A105.D4.C.7AEAD2A.4A$14.2BC.4A2.
2A2E2AB.4A102.EDCBE.CBD3A.A2.A.2DA2B3A$14.CD6A.A.2A.2ACB4A102.E2A.ADE
.A.A3.A.2AE2AB.4A$7.A.EBC.EAB2A.A2.A3.A2E3A.4A99.AC.5ACAC.2A.2A.2A.3A
2B3A$5.CBDCADABCD2A3.A.2A.2AE.2ACB4A97.CE7A.A2BD4A2.2A2E2AB.4A$3.CD.
5AD.D2.2A.2A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A94.E.DB3A2.2A2.2BE.5A.2A.2ACB4A$3.BD6ABD2E
5A2.2A2.2AE.8A96.D4A.A.A2.2C.E2A.A2.2A2E3A.4A$3.EB2A2.2A.C2EB6A.2A.AB
.E2ADA.C3A92.CACA.A2.E3A2EBDCBAE2CEA.2A.2AC5A$3.E3A.A.A.C2.C3A.DC.2A
2.CBA.AD6A92.BEB3.2A2.AEA.A2D.AB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A$3.CDA2.3A.BEA.EDB2.BA
.2A.CD.CB2DA.4A91.DB2A.AEB.2AEA.ABE2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A$2.EB.2A.2A.A.D2AC
DE.2AE.2A.BE2.BAD2AB3A90.D7AD2AB6AE.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A$.CE.A.EACB.A.AE
BC.E.2AB3A.AD2.CAD2A.4A90.EC5A.ACA.2A.A.CDADCDE5A.4AB3A$D.5ACDE6ABC2.
2AB2.A.AED.A.2DA2B3A90.E.C3A.3CD7AB2EBCE4A.EAD2A.4A$.5ABD.C.2A.A2.AD
2.ABC9AE2AB.4A91.BAEBCE2BCE3A2.A.2ABC2DA.3A2.2A2B3A$C.B3A3.AC6AEB.E.B
D3A2.A.2A.3A2B3A92.2AD4BCDE4A2.2A.B2DB6AD2A.4A$.EDBC.B2E.BD2A.2AB2DE.
3A.3A2.2A2E2AB.4A94.4A.C2D.E2DA.2A.DECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$2.DEA4E.ABE.2ABAC
DCE2AE6A.2A.2ACB4A100.CDAB.AB.2A.C.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$4.C4D3.AC2AECA3BAB.
E.A.A2.2A2E3A.4A100.2AE2CEA.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A$13.DECDE3A2.CBA.E2CEA.
2A.2AC5A100.A2BCD.B.3AEA2CEDACBE2AB.4A$17.BA.3ACD.CB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A
99.A2BC2DE3A.2ABC.DACB.2ACB4A$14.E2.CD.3A.D2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A99.2ABC2DE
2.A.A.2ADA.AB2E3A.4A$13.2E2.AB3A.2AE.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A100.A2CDE.7A2B.
ABE.2ACB4A$8.2E8.B2.A.A.ACADCDEB4A.4AB3A100.E2BCE4A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$
17.E.ECB4AB2EBCEB.2A.EAD2A.4A102.CDCA.2BA2.2A2.2AE.8A$19.EC2D2ABA2BAB
DC2.3A2.DA2B3A102.B2D7A.2A.AB.E2ADA.C3A$10.2E9.DEACBA2CBACB2.5AD2A.4A
98.D3EDEB4ADA.2A2.CBA.AD6A$23.2E.2CDCA2BA.2A.A.D2A2B3A98.2DCBC.EDCA2.
2A.2A.CD.CB2DA.4A$24.D.2D2E2BCBA.A.2AED2A.4A96.EDBCAB.AB.E2ABE.2A.BE
2.BAD2AB3A$26.E3.ECDBA2CABC.D2AB4A98.B3A.AC.E.A.BC2A.AD2.CAD2A.4A$31.
2DCBCDBACBE2AC.4A95.DED3ABDBC6.2A.AED.B.2DA2B3A$33.4E2.CBADACB4A96.E
2CBAB.C.D4.ED4ACABAE2AB.4A$35.D.D2.CE2B4ABA97.B.E4CE2.E2.EC2A2.A.2A.
3A2B3A$34.2D2.E.D2CBEACB2A101.DCED2EDE2.B.3A3.A2E3A.4A$39.E.D.E2DCBA
102.D.ED2.ED.EC.5A.2A.2AC5A$36.E6.EDC107.C4.D2EDB2A.ABACB2EA2C.4A$
158.2E.EDCBACDBACB.BAC5A$161.ED2.DE.CADCE2B2C.4A$162.E2.ED.EBDC.ABDC
5A$168.ED.D.E2B4ABA$170.2ED2CBEACB2A$171.E.D.E2DCBA$175.EDC!
After 1500 generations, it becomes this.
By this time, the wick-like reaction being puffed is clearly discernible.

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x = 189, y = 291, rule = R2,C6,M0,S10..18,B5..10,NM:T512,512
42.3A$39.D2C3B2A$34.A2.3E2DAC3A$32.3B2A3.AE6A$32.3C2BDAC.2A2B3A$30.2E
D2A2.6AB.4A$32.B.3A.2A.D2A2B3A$31.C4A2.2A2E2AB.4A$20.A.ADE2D2.D.EB6AC
B.2ACB4A$19.ABA.EBA.E4.DB.BEDCAB2E3A.4A$18.BC3A.2AC.EDCDE2AD2.EACB.2A
C5A$17.CD2.7A.2BC.4C.DADC2EB2C.4A$17.B4AB2A2.4AD.E2BC.EBCBE.A2C5A$16.
CE3A2.2A2.4A.D.BAD.EB2C.EBACA.4A$16.AD3A.7A.A2.C.DCDEB4A.4AB3A$5.CA.
2E5.ED.A2.2A.AD2.7AEBCE4A.EAD2A.4A$2.ABCADB.DE2.D.EA2.A.A2.2EC3A2.A.
2ABC2DA.3A2.2A2B3A$.ABD.3ABDC.D.B2A.2A.3A.A.2DB3A.2A.B2DB6AD2A.4A$.2B
E5ABACEC5A2.2A.DA.E2CE2.D.2A.DECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$A2C3A2.ABC.ED3AC3A.4AB.
EAB2AE3A.C.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$6A.3AC.2E4A.2A.2A.ACBA.E.CEC.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A
2B3A$BD.2A.AEDBC.DA.B.2ACEA.3A.DE2BCD.B.3AEA2CEDACBE2AB.4A$.BA.4ADCE.
D.2CDE.2AD.3A.D.EBC2DE3A.2ABC.DACB.2ACB4A$CE.A2.A.DCE.D2C2B2.2AB3A.3A
.2C2DE2.A.A.2ADA.AB2E3A.4A$.DC2A2.CBDECDBA6.BA.A.A.ABADCDE.7A2B.ABE.
2AC5A$.BDCA.A.2ACAB.A5.EBC7A2EBCE4A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$2.EDB3A.2B.B9.DE
2A2.A.2ABCDCA.2BA2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$4.2BA.AB2C11.CA2.A2.AD.B2D.6A.2A.2A.
EBACA.4A$4.E.CABCAD11.DCB4A.2AECEB4ADAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$5.DAEDB.E10.2ED2C
A.A.2A.A.EDCA2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$6.D.E13.C2.BD4A.3A2.B.E2A.ED2EB.3A2.
2A2B3A$23.DE4.EA.3A.ACBE4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$23.D.E.2AB.3A.2ABC8.ABDA.A2.
2A2B3A$21.E6.DCEA.A.A.C.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$19.2ED2E5.CE6ACD2.E2.2E
2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$20.E2D3.EB.CDA.2A.ACBDEDE2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$20.EDCB
DE2ABCDB.B2A3BD2ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$21.2D3C2D.B2DEDCB2CDE2.DECBA2.A
DA.AB2E3A.4A$23.3B.2ACBEA.3DC5.D6A2B.ABE.2AC5A$21.2CEAB.2A.A.E2CED5.C
.2A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$22.DED2A.3AD3.E7.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$21.D3.CA.3A
C11.BAC2BC2ABA.2A.EBACA.4A$21.2E2.B4A.C12.ADECDAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$22.2EDC
EBA2BD13.DB2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$24.DCEADCDE14.E2.CED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$26.
D2.D2E14.E4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$54.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$27.CED16.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD
2A.4A$22.DE.CBE14.4E2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$22.DE2CD.D13.2DED2.2E2.2D
B2CEDACBE2AB.4A$19.2EDEDC3DE11.E3.2E2.ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$23.2DEDCE
20.DCB2A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$24.E25.C6A2B.ABE.2ACB4A$22.E26.C.2A2.A.2A.3A
2E3A.C3A$50.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.8A$50.BACB3A.2A.AB.E2ADA.C3A$51.ADECDA.2A2.
CBA.AD6A$52.DB2.BA.2A.CD.CB2DA.4A$53.E.ACE.2A.BE2.BAD2AB3A$53.E.2AB3A
.AD2.CAD2A.4A$56.AB2.A.AED.A.2DA2B3A$50.E2.D2.ABC9AE2AB.4A$49.4E2.E.B
D3A2.A.2A.3A2B3A$49.2DEC2DE.3A.3A2.2A2E2AB.4A$47.E2.E2C2DCE2AE6A.2A.
2ACB4A$52.D2BCBAB.E.A.A2.2A2E3A.4A$49.E.DE2BA2.CBA.E2CEA.2A.2AC5A$52.
AC.3ACD.CB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A$49.E2.AE.3A.D2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A$49.E3.B3A.2AE
.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A$48.DE3.B2.A.A.ACADCDE5A.4AB3A$49.DE2.BC7A2EBCE4A.E
AD2A.4A$50.2E.AD3A2.A.2ABC2DA.3A2.2A2B3A$53.A.A.2EA2.2A.B2DB6AD2A.4A$
52.E.AD6A.2A.DECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$54.BED3A.A.2A.C.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$54.CB2.A
2.2A.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A$49.C.D2CBDE4AE2.3AEA2CEDACBE2AB.4A$49.EDB3AD.
EB2AB4A.2ABC.DACB.2ACB4A$48.AB3A.2AC.C2DCE2.A.A.2ADA.AB2E3A.4A$48.ABA
.A.A.AB.D2CE.7A2B.ABE.2AC5A$48.AB7AB2EBCE4A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$49.AD3A
2.A.2ABCDBA.2BA2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$51.CA2.A2.AD.B2D.6A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$51.
DCB4A.2AECE5ADAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$51.ED2CA.A.2A.A.EDCA2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$
53.BD4A.3A2.B.E2A.ED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$51.DE4.EA.3A.ACBE4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$
53.E.2AB.3A.2ABC8.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$48.EDE5.DCEA.A.A.C.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A
.4A$46.E2DC2D5.CE6ACD2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$46.2E3C2EAE2BCDA.2A.ACBD
EDE2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$46.DEDCAB2D2ABCDB.B2A3BD2ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A
$47.C.DBABACD.A2DEDCB2CDE2.DECBA2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$46.E.CB.3A.2ACBEA.3DC
5.D6A2B.ABE.2AC5A$48.B2C3A.2A.A.E2CED5.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$50.D2EDA
.3AD3.E7.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$49.D3.CA.3AC11.BAC2BC2ABA.2A.EBACA.4A$
49.2E2.2B3A.C12.ADECDAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$50.2EDCE2A2BD13.DB2.BDCDC.2A.EAD
2A.4A$52.DCEADCDE14.E2.CED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$54.D2.D2E14.E4.E.EBAC4AD2A.
4A$82.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$55.CED16.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$50.DE.CBE14.4E2.E
2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$50.DE2CD.D13.2DED2.2E2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$47.2EDE
DC3DE11.E3.2E2.ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$51.2DEDCE20.DCB2A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A
$52.E25.C6A2B.ABE.2ACB4A$50.E26.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$78.BE3A2.2A2.2A
E.8A$78.BACB3A.2A.AB.E2ADA.C3A$79.ADECDA.2A2.CBA.AD6A$80.DB2.BA.2A.CD
.CB2DA.4A$81.E.ACE.2A.BE2.BAD2AB3A$81.E.2AB3A.AD2.CAD2A.4A$84.AB2.A.A
ED.A.2DA2B3A$78.E2.D2.ABC9AE2AB.4A$77.4E2.E.BD3A2.A.2A.3A2B3A$77.2DEC
2DE.3A.3A2.2A2E2AB.4A$75.E2.E2C2DCE2AE6A.2A.2ACB4A$80.D2BCBAB.E.A.A2.
2A2E3A.4A$77.E.DE2BA2.CBA.E2CEA.2A.2AC5A$80.AC.3ACD.CB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A
$77.E2.AE.3A.D2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A$77.E3.B3A.2AE.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A$76.DE
3.B2.A.A.ACADCDE5A.4AB3A$77.DE2.BC7A2EBCE4A.EAD2A.4A$78.2E.AD3A2.A.2A
BC2DA.3A2.2A2B3A$81.A.A.2EA2.2A.B2DB6AD2A.4A$80.E.AD6A.2A.DECBDA.A2.
2A2B3A$82.BED3A.A.2A.C.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$82.CB2.A2.2A.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A
$77.C.D2CBDE4AE2.3AEA2CEDACBE2AB.4A$77.EDB3AD.EB2AB4A.2ABC.DACB.2ACB
4A$76.AB3A.2AC.C2DCE2.A.A.2ADA.AB2E3A.4A$76.ABA.A.A.AB.D2CE.7A2B.ABE.
2AC5A$76.AB7AB2EBCE4A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$77.AD3A2.A.2ABCDBA.2BA2.2A2.2A
E.A2C5A$79.CA2.A2.AD.B2D.6A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$79.DCB4A.2AECE5ADAB2CA.3A.
4AB3A$79.ED2CA.A.2A.A.EDCA2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$81.BD4A.3A2.B.E2A.ED2EB
.3A2.2A2B3A$79.DE4.EA.3A.ACBE4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$81.E.2AB.3A.2ABC8.ABDA.
A2.2A2B3A$76.EDE5.DCEA.A.A.C.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$74.E2DC2D5.CE6ACD2.
E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$74.2E3C2EAE2BCDA.2A.ACBDEDE2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$
74.DEDCAB2D2ABCDB.B2A3BD2ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$75.C.DBABACD.A2DEDCB2C
DE2.DECBA2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$74.E.CB.3A.2ACBEA.3DC5.D6A2B.ABE.2AC5A$76.B
2C3A.2A.A.E2CED5.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$78.D2EDA.3AD3.E7.BE3A2.2A2.2AE
.A2C5A$77.D3.CA.3AC11.BAC2BC2ABA.2A.EBACA.4A$77.2E2.2B3A.C12.ADECDAB
2CA.3A.4AB3A$78.2EDCE2A2BD13.DB2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$80.DCEADCDE14.E2.C
ED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$82.D2.D2E14.E4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$110.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$83.
CED16.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$78.DE.CBE14.4E2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$78.D
E2CD.D13.2DED2.2E2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$75.2EDEDC3DE11.E3.2E2.ED2.CBABC.
DACB.2ACB4A$79.2DEDCE20.DCB2A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$80.E25.C6A2B.ABE.2ACB4A$
78.E26.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$106.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.8A$106.BACB3A.2A.AB.E
2ADA.C3A$107.ADECDA.2A2.CBA.AD6A$108.DB2.BA.2A.CD.CB2DA.4A$109.E.ACE.
2A.BE2.BAD2AB3A$109.E.2AB3A.AD2.CAD2A.4A$112.AB2.A.AED.A.2DA2B3A$106.
E2.D2.ABC9AE2AB.4A$105.4E2.E.BD3A2.A.2A.3A2B3A$105.2DEC2DE.3A.3A2.2A
2E2AB.4A$103.E2.E2C2DCE2AE6A.2A.2ACB4A$108.D2BCBAB.E.A.A2.2A2E3A.4A$
105.E.DE2BA2.CBA.E2CEA.2A.2AC5A$108.AC.3ACD.CB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A$105.E2.
AE.3A.D2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A$105.E3.B3A.2AE.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A$104.DE3.B2.A
.A.ACADCDE5A.4AB3A$105.DE2.BC7A2EBCE4A.EAD2A.4A$106.2E.AD3A2.A.2ABC2D
A.3A2.2A2B3A$109.A.A.2EA2.2A.B2DB6AD2A.4A$108.E.AD6A.2A.DECBDA.A2.2A
2B3A$110.BED3A.A.2A.C.EDCB2ABAD2A.4A$110.CB2.A2.2A.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A
$105.C.D2CBDE4AE2.3AEA2CEDACBE2AB.4A$105.EDB3AD.EB2AB4A.2ABC.DACB.2AC
B4A$104.AB3A.2AC.C2DCE2.A.A.2ADA.AB2E3A.4A$104.ABA.A.A.AB.D2CE.7A2B.A
BE.2AC5A$104.AB7AB2EBCE4A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$105.AD3A2.A.2ABCDBA.2BA2.
2A2.2AE.A2C5A$107.CA2.A2.AD.B2D.6A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$107.DCB4A.2AECE5ADA
B2CA.3A.4AB3A$107.ED2CA.A.2A.A.EDCA2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$109.BD4A.3A2.B
.E2A.ED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$107.DE4.EA.3A.ACBE4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$109.E.2AB.3A
.2ABC8.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$104.EDE5.DCEA.A.A.C.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$102.E
2DC2D5.CE6ACD2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$102.2E3C2EAE2BCDA.2A.ACBDEDE2.2D
B2CEDACBE2AB.4A$102.DEDCAB2D2ABCDB.B2A3BD2ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$103.C
.DBABACD.A2DEDCB2CDE2.DECBA2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$102.E.CB.3A.2ACBEA.3DC5.D
6A2B.ABE.2AC5A$104.B2C3A.2A.A.E2CED5.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$106.D2EDA.
3AD3.E7.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$105.D3.CA.3AC11.BAC2BC2ABA.2A.EBACA.4A$
105.2E2.2B3A.C12.ADECDAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$106.2EDCE2A2BD13.DB2.BDCDC.2A.EA
D2A.4A$108.DCEADCDE14.E2.CED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$110.D2.D2E14.E4.E.EBAC4AD
2A.4A$138.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$111.CED16.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$106.DE.CBE14.
4E2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.D2A2B3A$106.DE2CD.D13.2DED2.2E2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$
103.2EDEDC3DE11.E3.2E2.ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$107.2DEDCE20.DCB2A2.ADA.
AB2E3A.4A$108.E25.C6A2B.ABE.2ACB4A$106.E26.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$134.
BE3A2.2A2.2AE.8A$134.BACB3A.2A.AB.E2ADA.C3A$135.ADECDA.2A2.CBA.AD6A$
136.DB2.BA.2A.CD.CB2DA.4A$137.E.ACE.2A.BE2.BAD2AB3A$137.E.2AB3A.AD2.C
AD2A.4A$140.AB2.A.AED.A.2DA2B3A$134.E2.D2.ABC9AE2AB.4A$133.4E2.E.BD3A
2.A.2A.3A2B3A$133.2DEC2DE.3A.3A2.2A2E2AB.4A$131.E2.E2C2DCE2AE6A.2A.2A
CB4A$136.D2BCBAB.E.A.A2.2A2E3A.4A$133.E.DE2BA2.CBA.E2CEA.2A.2AC5A$
136.AC.3ACD.CB2D.B.2A2EB2C.4A$133.E2.AE.3A.D2.B.D.E3AE.A2C5A$133.E3.B
3A.2AE.C.D.ECDA.EBACA.4A$132.DE3.B2.A.A.ACADCDE5A.4AB3A$133.DE2.BC7A
2EBCE4A.EAD2A.4A$134.2E.AD3A2.A.2ABC2DA.3A2.2A2B3A$137.A.A.2EA2.2A.B
2DB6AD2A.4A$136.E.AD6A.2A.DECBDA.A2.2A2B3A$138.BED3A.A.2A.C.EDCB2ABAD
2A.4A$138.CB2.A2.2A.3A.AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A$133.C.D2CBDE4AE2.3AEA2CEDACBE
2AB.4A$133.EDB3AD.EB2AB4A.2ABC.DACB.2ACB4A$132.AB3A.2AC.C2DCE2.A.A.2A
DA.AB2E3A.4A$132.ABA.A.A.AB.D2CE.7A2B.ABE.2AC5A$132.AB7AB2EBCE4A2.A.
2A.3A2EB2C.4A$133.AD3A2.A.2ABCDBA.2BA2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$135.CA2.A2.AD.B
2D.6A.2A.2A.EBACA.4A$135.DCB4A.2AECE5ADAB2CA.3A.4AB3A$135.ED2CA.A.2A.
A.EDCA2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$137.BD4A.3A2.B.E2A.ED2EB.3A2.2A2B3A$135.DE
4.EA.3A.ACBE4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$137.E.2AB.3A.2ABC8.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$132.ED
E5.DCEA.A.A.C.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$130.E2DC2D5.CE6ACD2.E2.2E2.C.E2AC.
D2A2B3A$130.2E3C2EAE2BCDA.2A.ACBDEDE2.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$130.DEDCAB2D
2ABCDB.B2A3BD2ED2.CBABC.DACB.2ACB4A$131.C.DBABACD.A2DEDCB2CDE2.DECBA
2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$130.E.CB.3A.2ACBEA.3DC5.D6A2B.ABE.2AC5A$132.B2C3A.2A.
A.E2CED5.C.2A2.A.2A.3A2EB2C.4A$134.D2EDA.3AD3.E7.BE3A2.2A2.2AE.A2C5A$
133.D3.CA.3AC11.BAC2BC2ABA.2A.EBACA.4A$133.2E2.2B3A.C12.ADECDAB2CA.3A
.4AB3A$134.2EDCE2A2BD13.DB2.BDCDC.2A.EAD2A.4A$136.DCEADCDE14.E2.CED2E
B.3A2.2A2B3A$138.D2.D2E14.E4.E.EBAC4AD2A.4A$166.ABDA.A2.2A2B3A$140.ED
16.D4.2E2.EDB2ABAD2A.4A$134.E2.CBE16.2E2.E2.2E2AC.E2AC.D2A2B3A$134.E.
EDC.E13.3EDE.DEA.2DB2CEDACBE2AB.4A$135.DC2BD17.D2ED2C.2A.BC.DACB.2ACB
4A$135.4BCAC16.DED2B3A2.ADA.AB2E3A.4A$134.BCAD.AB16.D2.CA.6A2B.ABE.2A
CB4A$134.DC.A.AED16.3CB.2A2.A.2A.3A2E3A.C3A$134.D5A.C16.EB.B2.3A2.2A
2.2AE.8A$135.AB3AC17.B3A2.5A.2A.2A.E2ADA.C3A$134.E2C2BD2E16.AB2A2.2A.
A2.2A2.3A.AD6A$136.AD2E19.DC2BA.A.3A.2A.2A.AB2DA.4A$138.D20.DECBAC3BD
.ABA2.A3.2D2AB3A$159.E.DECDEDCDCB2CA.3AC2D2A.4A$164.D.ECEDB2D2A2BA2B
2DA2B3A$167.2E.CDEBC3A2BEDAB.4A$171.E.E3CA2CAD2AB4A$174.DED2.CEB5ABA$
173.2D.ED.D2CBEACB2A$178.E.D.E2DCBA$175.E6.EDC!
UNRELATED EDIT: A 31c/34 ship and a p16 spinner:

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x = 49, y = 28, rule = R3,C5,M0,S4..5,B5..6,NN:T100,100
40.C2.3A$39.CDBACB2A$38.C5D3A$39.2D2.2DA$40.D3.DC$43.2DC$40.C4D$43.D$
43.C3$3.9A$2.A.7B.A33.D$2.A2B5C2BA22.7A$2.2A2B3D2B2A21.3AB.2BA$.C.A7.
A.C20.ABA3C2A$D13.D19.2AD.DAD$D13.D20.AD$.D11.D21.AC$35.AC.C$35.AC3.D
$35.AC$34.2AC9.B$35.A2C8.3A$35.B4C7DA$39.5CA2CA$37.B2A4B2ABA$39.6A!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by gameoflifemaniac » July 4th, 2017, 3:44 am

Why can't Larger than life rules be simulated on a infinite grid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 4th, 2017, 3:50 am

gameoflifemaniac wrote:Why can't Larger than life rules be simulated on a infinite grid?
Since Andrew was writing a whole new algorithm for golly he wanted to keep it simple at first. He says that maybe in the full release infonite grids will be supported.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Dean Hickerson » July 4th, 2017, 5:10 am

First, thanks to Andrew Trevorrow for implementing Larger than Life in Golly! I've wanted something like this for years.

Some LtL rules contain very slow spaceships, like this speed 2/1846 diagonal spaceship in a range-10 rule, which I found in 2002. (This is included in the new Golly distribution.)

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x = 26, y = 26, rule = R10,C0,M1,S154..262,B133..265,NM:T400,400
13bo$15bo$12b5o$11b5obo$10b7obo$9b9o$8b10o$4bo2b12o$3bob15o$4b17o$b10o
4b7o$ob8o6b7o$ob8o6b7o$ob8o6b8obo$3b7o6b8obo$3b8o4b10o$4b18obo$6b14o2b
o$7b12o2bo$8b10o$8b9o$7bob7o$8bob5o$10b4o$10bo$12bo!
I've been looking at 'nearby' rules to see what else I could find. Here are 2 slow spaceships in range-20 rules:

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#C Speed 3/1794 diagonal spaceship
x = 44, y = 45, rule = R20,C0,M1,S596..1038,B519..1060,NM:T4000,4000
24b3o$22b8o$24b8o$22b11o$18b16o$13bo2b19o$11b2ob21o$8b28o$7b30o$6b32o$
4b33o$3b35o$2b37o$2b37o$b37obo$b38o$39o$40o$40o$40o$41o$3b38o$3b38o$3b
38o$3b40o$4b40o$4b40o$4b40o$5b39o$5b38o$4bob37o$5b38o$5b37o$6b35o$7b
33o$6b32o$7b30o$8b28o$9b21ob2o$9b19o2bo$10b16o$11b12o$12b8o$14b8o$17b
4o!

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#C Speed 2/402 orthogonal spaceship
x = 43, y = 43, rule = R20,C0,M1,S601..1039,B520..1060,NM:T4000,4000
17b2o$14b7o$12b7o$11b11o$10b15o4b2o$9b19o2b2o$8b22ob3o$8b27o$7b30o$6b
32o$6b33o$6b34o$4b37o$4bob35o$6b36o$5b37o$5b37o$5b38o$4b39o$4b36obo$4b
36obo$3b37o$bob37o$bob36o$39o$39o$b37o$b37o$b36o$2b35obo$2b34ob2o$3b
35o$4b33o$5b32o$6b30o$7b29o$9b3ob22o$11b2o2b19o$12b2o3b16o$20b12o$25b
6o$22b7o$24b2o!
Those are faster than the one I found before. But here's one, in a range-50 rule, that's slower:

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#C Speed 8/63194 orthogonal spaceship
x = 103, y = 101, rule = R50,C0,M1,S3563..6059,B3078..6129,NM:T4000,4000
60bo2b2o$38bo23b2ob2o$64b2ob3o$65b7o$38bo27b7o$36b2o29b8o$34b3o13b7o
11b8o$32b4o7b20o6b9o$31b4o5b26o4b9o$29b5o4b30o3b9o$24bo3b5o3b34o2b9o$
23bob8o2b36o2b9o$22b2ob7ob40ob9o$21b53ob9o$20b65o$19b67o$18b68o$17b70o
$16b72o$15b75o$14b77o$13b79o$12b80o$11b82o$10b84o$9b86o$9b87o$8b8ob79o
$7b8ob81o$7b7ob75ob6o$6b7o2b75o2b6o$5b7o2b77o2b6o$5b6o2b78o3b5o$4b5o4b
79o3b5o$4b2obo4b81o3b4o$3b3o6b81o4b3o$3b2obo4b83o4b3o$3bo7b83o5b2o$2b
2o6b85o5b2o$2bo7b85o5b2o$2bo6b86o6bo$b2o6b87o6bo$bo7b87o6bo$bo7b87o$bo
6b88o$8b88o$8b88o$o7b88o$o7b88o$o6b90o$o6b90o$o6b90o$o7b88o$o7b88o$8b
88o$8b88o$bo6b88o$bo7b87o$bo7b87o6bo$b2o6b87o6bo$2bo6b86o6bo$2bo7b85o
5b2o$2b2o6b85o5b2o$3bo7b83o5b2o$3b2obo4b83o4b3o$3b3o6b81o4b3o$4b2obo4b
81o3b4o$4b5o4b79o3b5o$5b6o2b78o3b5o$5b7o2b77o2b6o$6b7o2b75o2b6o$7b7ob
75ob6o$7b8ob81o$8b8ob79o$9b87o$9b86o$10b84o$11b82o$12b80o$13b79o$14b
77o$15b75o$16b72o$17b70o$18b68o$19b67o$20b65o$21b53ob9o$22b2ob7ob40ob
9o$23bob8o2b36o2b9o$24bo3b5o3b34o2b9o$29b5o4b30o3b9o$31b4o5b26o4b9o$
32b4o7b20o6b9o$34b3o13b7o11b8o$36b2o29b8o$38bo27b7o$65b7o$64b2ob3o$38b
o23b2ob2o$60bo2b2o!
Can anyone find anything slower? Or maybe a slow knightship?

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 4th, 2017, 6:06 am

Dean, is there a trick to find good "blobby" rules? The dynamics interest me. Are there any slower bugs-ish ships??
Edit:
Tiny script to calculate the number of neighbors of a given rule. I know, I know, the algorithm for von Neumann is unnecessarily big and long but it works.

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#ltlneighcalc.py
#Calculates the number of neighbors
#for a given LTL extended neighborhood.
# :)
import golly as g
r = int(g.getstring("Range?","5"))
n = g.getstring("Neighborhood?","M")
result = "0"
if n == "M":
    result = str((r*4)+((r*r)*4)) 
elif n == "N":
    result = str(((r*4)+((r*r)-(r*3)))*2)
g.note(result)
And Dean, please do post the "faster" ships you found.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Dean Hickerson » July 4th, 2017, 10:48 am

Saka wrote:Dean, is there a trick to find good "blobby" rules?
The only method I know of is to start with an interesting rule and then make small changes to the birth and survival limits, or change the range. If you change the range from r0 to r1, then the birth and survival limits should be multiplied by (2*r1+1)^2 / (2*r0+1)^2, approximately.

Often the modified rule will have somewhat similar dynamics, although the existence of a slow spaceship (or any other type of interesting object) in the original rule is no guarantee that the new one will have something similar.
And Dean, please do post the "faster" ships you found.
I thought I had posted all that I'd found, but I missed a few.

Here are 2 slow spaceships in one range-17 rule:

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#C Speed 4/1518 orthogonal spaceship
x = 36, y = 36, rule = R17,C0,M1,S430..727,B367..737,NM:T4000,4000
13b5o$11b5o$9b5o$8b12o4bo$7b16o2b2o$7b18ob2o$6b24o$5b26o$5b28o$4b30o$
4b31o$3bob30o$5b31o$4b32o$4b29ob2o$3b33o$3b30o2bo$3b31obo$o2b30o$o2b
30o$o2b30o$2ob30o$32o$32o$b30o$b32o$2b30o$3b29o$4b27o$5b25o$7b23o$9b2o
b17o$10bo3b14o$18b9o$21b5o$19b6o!

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#C Speed 4/750 orthogonal spaceship
x = 37, y = 37, rule = R17,C0,M1,S430..727,B367..737,NM:T4000,4000
18b4o$20b5o$21b5o$17b5ob4o$10bo3b14o$9b2ob17o$7b23o$5b26o$4b27o$3b28o$
2b30o$b32o$b30o$32o$32o$33o$ob31o$o2b30o$2b32o$3b31o$3b31ob2o$3b31ob2o
$4b32o$4b32o$4b32o$5b30o$3b2ob29o$4b30o$5b28o$5b27o$6b24o$7b18ob3o$7b
16o2b2o$8b13o3b2o$9b5o$10b5o$12b5o!
And here's one in a range-29 rule:

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#C Speed 2/2262 orthogonal spaceship
x = 60, y = 61, rule = R29,C0,M1,S1216..2068,B1050..2092,NM:T4000,4000
25b4o$21b7o$19b7o$17b7o$16b7o$15b7ob9o8bo$14b22o5b2o$13b25o4b3o$12b28o
2b4o$11b31ob5o$11b38o$10b41o$9b43o$8b45o$8b46o$7b48o$6b50o$6b51o$5b3ob
49o$5bo2b50o$4bo3b51o$7b52o$7b53o$6b49ob4o$6b50ob3o$6b50ob3o$5b51o2b2o
$5b51o3bo$5b51o3bo$4b52o3bo$4b52o$4b52o$o3b52o$o3b51o$2o2b51o$2o2b51o$
3ob50o$4ob49o$4ob48o$b52o$b51o$b51o2b2o$2b49o2b2o$3b48ob3o$3b51o$4b49o
$5b48o$6b46o$7b45o$9b42o$10b40o$11b38o$12b5o2b29o$14b4o3b27o$15b4o4b
24o$17b3o6b20o$19bo9b7ob8o$36b8o$35b7o$33b7o$31b7o!

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by muzik » July 4th, 2017, 11:06 am

I wonder, will we ever get neighbourhoods larger than 50? I personally doubt it, because it would be kinda messy and unwieldy to work with
Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace!

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 4th, 2017, 11:55 pm

Dean Hickerson wrote: The only method I know of is to start with an interesting rule and then make small changes to the birth and survival limits, or change the range. If you change the range from r0 to r1, then the birth and survival limits should be multiplied by (2*r1+1)^2 / (2*r0+1)^2, approximately.
Interesting! Thank you! I will make a python script for this too hehe. Soon.
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 5th, 2017, 1:41 am

Saka wrote: Interesting! Thank you! I will make a python script for this too hehe. Soon.
And soon indeed.

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#ltlrangeconvert.py
#A script to change the range
#but keep MOST of the dynamics
#DISCLAIMER: Drastic range changes will remove the dynamics.
#Thanks to Dean Hickerson's algorithm!
#By Saka.
from decimal import *
import golly as g
getcontext().prec = 8
fullrule = g.getrule()
sections = fullrule.split(",")
r = sections[0]
b = sections[4]
s = sections[3]
c = sections[1]
m = sections[2]
n = sections[5]
#Filter n so :Txxx don't get involved
nlist = n.split(":")
npure = nlist[0]
#Aaand filter r so the R is gone
rpure = int(r[1])
#Getting bmin and bmax outta that string...
bpure = b.translate(None,"B")
blist = bpure.split("..")
bmin = int(blist[0])
bmax = int(blist[1])
#Now for smin and smax...
spure = s.translate(None,"S")
slist = spure.split("..")
smin = int(slist[0])
smax = int(slist[1])
#Input time
rangeto = int(g.getstring("Range to convert to?","5"))
rangetostr = str(rangeto)
#Now for calculations!
meaningoflife = (2*Decimal(rangeto)+1)**2/(2*Decimal(rpure)+1)**2
newbmin = str(int(round(bmin*meaningoflife))) #Huh. Decimal to number to integer to string
newbmax = str(int(round(bmax*meaningoflife)))
newsmin = str(int(round(smin*meaningoflife)))
newsmax = str(int(round(smax*meaningoflife)))
newrule = "R"+rangetostr+","+c+","+m+","+"S"+newsmin+".."+newsmax+","+"B"+newbmin+".."+newbmax+","+npure
g.setrule(newrule)
With that script I found these rules:

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#C 12,5c/17 spaceship and 2c/2 orthogonal spaceship
x = 37, y = 13, rule = R6,C0,M1,S47..81,B47..63,NM:T4000,4000
28b5o$4b6o17b7o$3b8o15b9o$2b9o15b9o$2b9o14b11o$b11o13b4o3b4o$b4o3b4o
12b4o5b4o$5o4b4o11b4o5b4o$b4o5b2o12b4o5b4o$b4o5b2o13b3o5b3o$2b4o3b2o
15b2o5b2o$4b6o17b3ob3o$5b3o20b5o!

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#C 6c/8 diagonal spaceship
x = 18, y = 18, rule = R9,C0,M1,S101..173,B101..134,NM:T400,400
7b6o$5b10o$3b8o2b3o$2b8o4b3o$b9o5b2o$b7o8b2o$7o9b2o$7o8b3o$7o6b5o$8o5b
5o$b8o3b6o$b16o$2b15o$3b13o$4b12o$5b10o$6b8o$8b4o!
And some more (EDIT):

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#C c/2 diagonal spaceship and 9c/11 orthogonal spaceship
x = 50, y = 20, rule = R10,C0,M1,S127..223,B127..186,NM:T4000,4000
8b6o24b2o$7b8o21b6o$6b10o19b8o$5b12o17b12o$4b14o15b14o$3b15o14b16o$2b
17o12b18o$b9o2b8o11b4o5b9o$b8o4b7o10b4o7b9o$8o6b7o9b4o7b9o$8o7b6o9b4o
7b9o$8o8b4o10b4o7b9o$b8o7b4o11b4o5b9o$b9o6b4o11b18o$2b9o4b4o13b16o$3b
9ob5o15b14o$4b13o17b12o$5b11o19b8o$7b8o21b6o$9b4o25b2o!

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#C 6c/8 diagonal spaceship
x = 17, y = 17, rule = R9,C0,M1,S101..173,B101..134,NM:T4000,4000
6b4o$4b8o$3b11o$2b3o3b7o$b3o5b7o$b2o7b7o$3o7b7o$3o7b7o$4o5b8o$5o3b9o$b
16o$b15o$2b13o$2b12o$3b10o$4b8o$5b6o!
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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
(Check gen 2)

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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Saka » July 5th, 2017, 10:12 pm

I added more states to Bugs

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#C 10c/20 diagonal and 5c/6 orthogonal spaceship
x = 38, y = 12, rule = R5,C3,M1,S34..58,B34..45,NM:T400,400
5.3AB$2.2B5AB$.B5A.2AB19.4A$.4A4.2AB16.7AB$5A5.2A14.10AB$4A5.3A14.5AB
3.2A$4AB4.3A14.5AB4.AB$.4AB.4A15.5AB4.AB$2.8AB15.5AB3.2A$3.7AB15.10AB
$4.5AB18.7AB$5.3A22.4A!

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#C 10c/20 diagonal spaceship
x = 13, y = 13, rule = R5,C6,M1,S34..58,B34..45,NM:T400,400
3.E2DE$.2EDCBABE$.EDCB4AB$EDC2A.5A$DCBA3.5A$DBA3.ED5A$E3A.EDCB4A$.B3A
D2C5A$.E4AB5A$2.B8A$3.7A$4.5A$5.3A!
Here is one in Range 4 Bugs

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#C 10c/20 orthogonal and 4c/9 diagonal spaceship
x = 23, y = 9, rule = R4,C0,M1,S23..39,B23..30,NM:T4000,4000
17b3o$b5o10b5o$b5o9b7o$7o8b3ob4o$7o7b2o4b3o$3ob3o7b2o3b4o$2o3b2o8b2o2b
3o$b5o10b5o$2b3o12b2o!
EDIIIIIIIT:
Some Von2 spaceships:

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#C c/4 diagonal spaceship
x = 3, y = 4, rule = R2,C0,M0,S3..4,B4..6,NN:T400,400
2o$3o$3o$o!

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#C c/3 orthogonal spaceship
x = 4, y = 4, rule = R2,C0,M0,S3..5,B4..4,NN:T400,400
bo$2o$o2bo$3o!
Airy Clave White It Nay

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x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
(Check gen 2)

Dean Hickerson
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Re: Larger than Life

Post by Dean Hickerson » July 6th, 2017, 1:18 am

I wrote:Can anyone find anything slower? Or maybe a slow knightship?
Here's the slowest yet, an orthogonal spaceship with range 43:

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#C Speed 9/121716 orthogonal spacehip
x = 88, y = 89, rule = R43,C0,M1,S2657..4491,B2268..4554,NM:T4000,4000
47b5o$50b5o$52b6o$54b6o$32b2o21b7o$30b3o23b8o$28b4o25b8o$27b4o10b12o5b
9o$25b5o6b19o4b9o$24b5o4b25o2b9o$20bob6o3b29ob9o$19bob6o3b31ob9o$18bob
6o2b44o$17bob54o$16b58o$15b60o$14b62o$13b64o$12b66o$13b66o$12b68o$9bob
69o$8bob71o$7bob72o$9b73o$8b75o$5bob76o$7b4ob65ob6o$4bob4o2b66ob5o$6b
3o2b67o2b5o$3bob3o3b68o2b4o$5b2o3b69o3b4o$2bob2o4b70o3b3o$4bo4b71o4b3o
$3b2o4b72o4b2o$bobo4b73o5bo$8b73o6bo$2bo5b73o6bo$8b74o$2o5b75o$o6b75o$
o6b75o$o6b75o$o6b75o$o5b76o$o6b75o$o6b75o$o6b75o$o6b75o$2o5b75o$8b74o$
2bo5b73o6bo$8b73o6bo$bobo4b73o5bo$3b2o4b72o4b2o$4bo4b71o4b3o$2bob2o4b
70o3b3o$5b2o3b69o3b4o$3bob3o3b68o2b4o$6b3o2b67o2b5o$4bob4o2b66ob5o$7b
4ob65ob6o$5bob76o$8b75o$9b73o$7bob72o$8bob71o$9bob69o$12b68o$13b66o$
12b66o$13b64o$14b62o$15b60o$16b58o$17bob54o$18bob6o2b44o$19bob6o3b31ob
9o$20bob6o3b29ob9o$24b5o4b25o2b9o$25b5o6b19o4b9o$27b4o10b12o5b9o$28b4o
25b8o$30b3o23b8o$32b2o21b7o$54b6o$52b6o$50b5o$47b5o!

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