Can you make a test page to demonstrate what you mean?muzik wrote:I'd assume they'd just be links, listed below/to the right of all the periods.
Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project

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Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
You mean how the links would be listed?AforAmpere wrote:Can you make a test page to demonstrate what you mean?muzik wrote:I'd assume they'd just be links, listed below/to the right of all the periods.

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Yeah, that might be useful, and then we can add in the other slope pages as needed.muzik wrote: You mean how the links would be listed?
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project

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Nice job, but I just made it a bit easier, by posting most of the uptodate ships in the format that can be directly pasted into the wiki tables, check the Drive folder. Does anyone want to help transfer those over? It should be fairly quick split up.muzik wrote:Dumped all orthogonal and diagonal speeds below period 160 onto their respective pages. I'll dump the rest later on.
EDIT, 10c/13, 5 cells:
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x = 2, y = 5, rule = B2ac3ekry4acjkntz5ciky6ack7e/S1c2aik3nq4ijknw5ejk6aci
bo$bo$o$bo$bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ce3aen4acqrw5ainry6cei78/S12ik3ajqry4ikqtw5ajq6akn8
bo2$bo$o!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3ary4eijnqwz5jkq6ein8/S1c2ae3jnqr4acir5aekq6i78
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2ek3acny4aeqw5ceij6en8/S02a3ceijr4eikr5acinr6ci7c
o2$2bo2$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ek3acn4aciy5anr6aci7/S1c2ai3acijq4ijrty5ejkr6n7
o$bo2$bo!
Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3aq4cnqy5kq6n7e/S1c2ae3anqr4cijnry5cjknr6cn7
o$bo2$bo!
Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3ac4jwyz5cjqr6ckn7c/S1c2aek3ikny4ajny5cinry6ai7c
o$bo2$bo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project

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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Consistency, and the easiest for most people to run. I really don't want to add MAP rules, as they only allow one direction of travel in most cases, and the bounds on speed are weird. I also don't think LTL is a good thing to add, though I already had posted a limited database of R2 LTL ships somewhere. If you want to work an an LTL addon, like how Majestas32 is doing the B0 addon, that is fine by me, but I'd like to keep it consistent with what already exists.muzik wrote:Why, exactly, are only outertotalistic and isonontotalistic rules allowed again?
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
The only addon I'm really eyeballing is ships allowed by the whole "rangeextended outertotalistic rules" thing that Adam mentioned exactly six months ago, however it would be simulated.AforAmpere wrote:Consistency, and the easiest for most people to run. I really don't want to add MAP rules, as they only allow one direction of travel in most cases, and the bounds on speed are weird. I also don't think LTL is a good thing to add, though I already had posted a limited database of R2 LTL ships somewhere. If you want to work an an LTL addon, like how Majestas32 is doing the B0 addon, that is fine by me, but I'd like to keep it consistent with what already exists.muzik wrote:Why, exactly, are only outertotalistic and isonontotalistic rules allowed again?

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Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3acn4acnwyz5ejkq6cei7e8/S1c2ae3cjy4aeiqt5eiry6k
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ek3cekq4ijnqry5aeknr6eik7c8/S12ek3aij4ai5cnq6k78
bo$o2$o!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3jn4ijknqwy5acij6e7e8/S12ck3ciq4ein5enr6ac7e8
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ek3a4inqtyz5cijqy6k78/S1c2ain3acjq4einqrz5ejkq6ak7c8
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2aci3ajn4akr5ikny6n/S01e2ak3aey4ajrtz5kqy6cn
2bo$o$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ac3aenqr4aenw5ekry6cek/S1e2ikn3ckn4acert5acq6ace8
2bo2$2bo$obo!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ai3eikq4nqrw5cnqy6a/S02an3aeikq4ajknrt5ikry6k7c
2bo$o$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2cek3cekry4acejnrt5eijkq6ain7e/S12cn3acinq4aintw5cej6ac7
bo$o$bo!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ai3eijr4aijtwyz5eij6ae7e/S01e2aik3aejn4acjntwz5jr6cin7c
2bo$o$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 7, rule = B2ack3ak4acin5cir6ack/S01e2ae3k4aijkqwy5ajkr6ace7c8
bo2$o2$o2$bo!
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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2ek3ac4ainrz5ijy6en7c8/S1e2ci3aikr4akqrz5cjnqr6ae8
o2$2bo2$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3acnr4jknrw5aejky6ac7c/S12ai3jkqy4inqy5ekr6en7c
o$bo2$bo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project

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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule

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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2acn3kr4aqrwz5ajkny6n7c8/S12ik3ijqy4anrwy5ckqy6ik7e
2bo2$2bo2$b2o$3o!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2eik3iry4i/S1e2ace4k5ey
2bo$2bo$2bo$obo!

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Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ek3an4aejt5eijk/S1c2ce3jq4cjwyz5cijqr6ae7c
bo2$bo$o!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3akry4intw5ikry6en7e8/S1c2n3cry4aqrty5cikqy6kn78
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 4, y = 11, rule = B2aci3ejry4cjkrz5ceinq6n7e/S12ei3jnr4cntwy5cnry6cei7c8
3bo2$b3o$o2bo2$b3o2$o2bo$b3o2$3bo!
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x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2aci3jkr4kqtw5jk6i8/S02ae3aejr4cyz5ci6cei7e
2bo$obo$bo$2bo2$b2o2$2bo$bo$obo$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 11, rule = B2ek3jr4cejkrwz5aijr6ci7e/S02ae3aekr4cijqr5eikn6cei7e
2bo$obo$2bo2$2bo$o$2bo2$2bo$obo$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 6, rule = B2aci3acjkr4ejnqrwz5jkqr6ci7e/S2ain3ajr4ejknt5cijn6ci7e
bo$bo$2bo$3o$bo$2bo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ek3cj4aknrz5cjn6c78/S12cik3aiqr4aeknqty5ceikr6cek78
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ack3q4acinq5k6ei7e/S1e2ikn3ejry4aikqrtz5acjky6ac78
2bo2$2bo$o!
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2ac3anr4acy5cejky6akn7c/S1e2ik3ejy4aeqrw5ei6ek7c8
3bo2$ob2o!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2aci3acy4knrtwyz5ei6e/S1c2aei3eq4cjkq5aekn6i7e
o$bo2$bo!
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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2ek3n4eknw5nqr6ac/S1e2ekn3eiky4aejrtwy5ijny6ci8
o2$2bo2$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2ek3acik4cjqtyz5eijk6aek7e8/S12cen3ajkry4acjkqy5aekn6eik
o2$2bo2$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ac3ajny4acitwz5eiy6cn7e/S01e2i3ainq4ejkqtz5ejkq6eik7c
2bo$2bo$2bo$o!
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ac3aiqy4aijwy5cnqy6ace8/S12ek3cknr4ceiqtyz5cjkny6ei78
obo$2bo$2bo!
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x = 3, y = 4, rule = B2ek3acjn4ckr5cekry6ack/S2aen3iqr4ciky5ijk6ekn8
2bo$2bo2$obo!
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x = 2, y = 4, rule = B2ace3ny4cjknz5aejy6c78/S1e2cei3nqr4aekqw5ekqry6ce7
bo$bo$bo$o!
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x = 2, y = 6, rule = B2ac3aqy4acikqw5knqy6ckn7c8/S01e2ck3jkr4eijkrw5aeq6ik7c8
bo2$bo2$2o$bo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Wait there’s a third:wwei23 wrote:The other c/2 with average population 3.5:Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2c3ae/S1c3e bo$o$bo!
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x=2, y=3, rule=B2a3e/S1c2c3e
bo$2o$bo!
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2ek3aikq4aci5ak/S02e3aikr
o3bo$2bo2$o!
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Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 2, rule = B2ek3aikq4aci5ak/S02e3aikr
o3bo$2bo!
Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
This is indeed a nice little spaceship, but it doesn't beat the record which is 3 cells2718281828 wrote:d4 1c/44:with 4 cells being a 3 cells spaceship plus a 1 cell still life.Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2ek3aikq4aci5ak/S02e3aikr o3bo$2bo2$o!
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x = 6, y = 6, rule = B2ai3c5ck/S02e4ai5e
o3$3bo2$5bo!
Just to give you an idea, it has minimum 3 cell diagonal ships for most speeds 1c/P for 2<=P<=100, the exceptions being c/2 (4 cells), c/83 (4 cells), c/97 (no ship), and c/99 (5 cells).

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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
13c/13, 3 cells:
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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2aei3ekqy4eijktwz5ac6kn8/S2c3ceinq4ceijk5cij6ae
o$bo$bo!
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x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ck3ceqy4eiknwyz5ij6k7e/S2cin3qy4eityz5cenqr6a
o$bo$bo!
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x = 4, y = 2, rule = B2ek3cer4ejknqw5ajry6c7e/S1c2cik3cjky4intw5acei6k
o$bobo!
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Code: Select all
x = 7, y = 3, rule = B3aijnr4cejy5cy6ck7/S2aei3kqy4et5i6cei78
2bo2bo$ob5o$2bo2bo!
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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
The latest edition of newgliders.db.txt and oscillators.db.txt have 22470 spaceships and 998 oscillators from outertotalistic rules. You are invited to help!

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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Things to work on:
 Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Nontotalistic rule
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
 11c/26 diagonal, B2ain3a4ikry5ejqy6a7c/S02ce3ijkr4aijnz5aceij6e7c
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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ain3a4ikry5ejqy6a7c/S02ce3ijkr4aijnz5aceij6e7c
o2$3o!
 10c/26 diagonal, B2ai3acky4iqry5cnq6e8/S02kn3enqy4ajkrw5acij6cek7e
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ai3acky4iqry5cnq6e8/S02kn3enqy4ajkrw5acij6cek7e
o2$3o!
 11c/28 diagonal, B2ain3aen4arz5ejkn/S02ce3airy4aejr5aeikr6ak7c
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ain3aen4arz5ejkn/S02ce3airy4aejr5aeikr6ak7c
obo$2bo$2bo!
 11c/28 diagonal, B2ain3a4qrt5ejkn6in7e/S02cek3acjn4atw5knqy6ei7c
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ain3a4qrt5ejkn6in7e/S02cek3acjn4atw5knqy6ei7c
o2$3o!
 10c/28 diagonal, B2ai3akn4irz5acjky6cn7c8/S02ce3ainry4cijr5aeqr6aek7e
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ai3akn4irz5acjky6cn7c8/S02ce3ainry4cijr5aeqr6aek7e
o2$3o!
 9c/28 diagonal, B2an3aejq4jrwy5ac6a/S013eik4jnry5cinry6ac7c
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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2an3aejq4jrwy5ac6a/S013eik4jnry5cinry6ac7c
2bo$obo!
 9c/30 diagonal, B2ce3ai4krw5nry6cn/S12aek3inr4jnrz5ijny6e
Code: Select all
x = 2, y = 3, rule = B2ce3ai4krw5nry6cn/S12aek3inr4jnrz5ijny6e
bo2$2o!
 10c/36 diagonal, B2an3ekqy4aqrz5cej6aek/S013aeqy4aceqryz5jkq6ak
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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2an3ekqy4aqrz5cej6aek/S013aeqy4aceqryz5jkq6ak
2bo$obo!
 11c/38 diagonal, B2an3ekq4aikwy5cjkr6ae7c/S012an3eikq4eny5cjkry6ei
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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2an3ekq4aikwy5cjkr6ae7c/S012an3eikq4eny5cjkry6ei
2bo$obo!
 11c/42 diagonal, B2an3acjqy4rwy5ejry6cei8/S012k3ekny4ejnwz5jknq6ak7e8
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2an3acjqy4rwy5ejry6cei8/S012k3ekny4ejnwz5jknq6ak7e8
2bo$obo!
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 10c/30 diagonal, B2ai3aj4cntyz5ai6ace7c/S02e3ijkry4ajnr5cjy6a
Code: Select all
x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ai3aj4cntyz5ai6ace7c/S02e3ijkry4ajnr5cjy6a
obo$2bo$2bo!
 11c/30 diagonal, B2ac3ack4an5cijkn6ae7c/S2e3einr4ajqr5airy6cik8
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 3, rule = B2ac3ack4an5cijkn6ae7c/S2e3einr4ajqr5airy6cik8
2bo2$ob2o!
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Re: Smallest Spaceships Supporting Specific Speeds (5s) Project
Code: Select all
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B2n34cw5cky6n/S2i34ce5c6n
2bo$b3o$2o2bo$bobo$2bo!
Code: Select all
x = 4, y = 4, rule = B34ce5cen67c8/S2i3jqry4cent5j67c8
bo$obo$bobo$2bo!