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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: April 9th, 2017, 8:24 pm
by Bullet51

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e35678_S2678
o$obo$2o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: April 15th, 2017, 7:21 pm
by 83bismuth38
lol, glider and r-pentomino are became one:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-i45-a8/S3-ai4-a5-e
obo$2o$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: April 16th, 2017, 8:12 am
by Saka
83bismuth38 wrote:lol, glider and r-pentomino are became one:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-i45-a8/S3-ai4-a5-e
obo$2o$bo!
Saka wrote: Sorry, but we're focusing on spaceships
Saka wrote:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-nqr4acew5y6/S1e2-a34wz
3o$o$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 12th, 2017, 11:04 am
by toroidalet
double counterfeit gliders:

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B34i/S1c2-ck3
bo5bo$o4b2o$3o3b2o!
counterfeit toad in the same rule:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B34i/S1c2-ck3
bo$o2bo$o2bo$2bo!
(I really want someone to apgsearch this rule to see how it handles this)

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 12th, 2017, 11:55 am
by praosylen
toroidalet wrote:(I really want someone to apgsearch this rule to see how it handles this)
It should catch the toad and miss both gliders. Please no one search until I've fixed this.

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 12th, 2017, 12:56 pm
by toroidalet
A for awesome wrote:It should catch the toad and miss both gliders. Please no one search until I've fixed this.
I tried apgsearching without uploading to Catagolue in V0.54+0.3i and it didn't give any fatal errors, giving an xq4_153 and an xq4_163. V0.54+0.2i also gave an xq4_153 and xq4_163. I think it's safe to run (and really fast).

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 16th, 2017, 4:37 am
by Saka
bump

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-an3ijny4aejkwyz5-acjr6cik7e8/S01c2eik3nqy4aijqryz5aijy6ci78
bo$o$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 17th, 2017, 9:18 am
by Goldtiger997
I've been using wildmyron's recently published script to find more counterfeit gliders. So far I've found 30, and most of them have not already been posted on this thread. (I've also been using getallrules.py to optimise the rules, which is something I've noticed that the 5s project hasn't done.)

Here is what is probably the highlight of the current collection, a 3c/266d:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ekn3aikn4eiqry5q6ac7e/S1c2ek3-jky4kw5acy6c7e
3o$o$bo!
And here is the current full collection:
counterfeit gliders.zip
(7.5 KiB) Downloaded 440 times
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 17th, 2017, 9:34 am
by Saka
Goldtiger997 wrote:I've been using wildmyron's recently published script to find more counterfeit gliders.
Same! I didnt get to looking for any today, I focused on making cool apgcodes, but the system keeps changing them

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 17th, 2017, 10:30 am
by drc
Goldtiger997 wrote:which is something I've noticed that the 5s project hasn't done.
I was going to say that all gliders in the 5s project should have their rulestring shortened as much as possible, but I decided to leave them in whatever rule is most interesting/whatever rule they were found in.

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 18th, 2017, 3:56 am
by Saka
c/6d

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cek3ikr4-aeqtw5-eijk6-ck8/S02ace3ar4knw5n6e7e
obo$2o$bo!
2c/6o

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2eik3-cjnq4eijqwy5-ijn6cei8/S01c2-c3ijnqr4inqtwyz5ajnq6-k78
bo$2bo$3o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3er4cejyz5jq6ain7/S01c2-ek3-eqy4-cekr5ekny6cek7c8
2bo$2o$b2o!
c/12d

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-an3-knq4-cqrty5-kry6-e78/S01c2-k3-aci4-kqw5ijkry6ikn78
bo$o$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 5:24 pm
by muzik

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = 23/3/4
3.C$3.ACA$2.B3A$BCA.A$ACA$B2A$.A!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 20th, 2017, 7:08 pm
by toroidalet
muzik wrote:

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ship
I don't think that counts.
A variation of my original counterfeit LWSS rule:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2i34a/S23-ijn4a
bo2bo$o$o3bo$4o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 5:12 pm
by Rhombic

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3aj4an/S1c2ace3aj4ak
obo$b2o$bo!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3ijnq/S1c2e
bo$2bo$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 21st, 2017, 5:13 pm
by Hdjensofjfnen
muzik wrote:

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = 23/3/4
3.C$3.ACA$2.B3A$BCA.A$ACA$B2A$.A!
Counterfeit crab thingamajig?

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 23rd, 2017, 9:48 pm
by praosylen
A 3ITVN counterfeit glider:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 000200-10102-1010-222-11-1
.A$A$3B!
Sadly, the rule is explosive.

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: August 24th, 2017, 1:19 pm
by Rhombic
Counterfeit block on table:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2k3ai4iwz/S01e2aen3aer
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2e3-kqry4knr/S1c2ae3ajnr
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3-cknr4ijn6ik/S1c2-c3a4aqz5i6c
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: October 13th, 2017, 9:36 am
by Rhombic
B2c3aijn4r5q/S2ace3nr (1,1)c/8
B2ck3aceijkn4jk5cj7c/S2ae3inr4akqrz5jn (1,1)c/32
B2k3aijn/S2ae3jnr4ak (2,0)c/8
B2ck3aijnr5c/S02e3jnr (1,1)c/8

a few more that preserve both distinct generations of the glider

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: November 21st, 2017, 7:07 pm
by praosylen
One in CGoL:

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x = 53, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
13$16bobo$16bo2bo$19b2o$17bo3bo$18bob3o$24b2o$18b5o3bo$23bo3b
o$20b2o5bo$18b4o2bo2bo$18bo5bobo3bo$30b4o$25b3o3b3o$25b3o3bo3b
o$24bob2o5b3o$31bo4bobo$24bo2bo4b8o$27b2o10b2o$26bobo5b2o4b2o$
31bo2bo4b2o$29bobobo3bo$30bo7b5o$42b2o$40b2o2bo$40bob3o$45bo$
44b3o$42bo2b3o$46bo$42b4o$45bo$42b2o$40b4o$40bo!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 1:00 am
by LaundryPizza03
From the "crystallographic defect rule":

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2c3aijn4k/S2-k34cnqrt
o$b2o$2o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: December 15th, 2017, 12:05 pm
by LaundryPizza03
Request a Rule to Be "Tamed":
drc wrote: Found a small c/6 diagonal in a related (stable!) rule:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ajqr4a/S23
b2o$obo$2bo!
[Edited for phase]

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: December 29th, 2017, 12:46 am
by Majestas32
c/10 diagonal

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-r4aiw5cny/S123c4w6c
3o$o$bo!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: January 3rd, 2018, 11:39 pm
by LaundryPizza03
From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: January 3rd, 2018, 11:51 pm
by dani
LaundryPizza03 wrote:From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!
This glider was known here. I think it may have been posted here too

Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Posted: January 4th, 2018, 8:27 pm
by BlinkerSpawn
danny wrote:
LaundryPizza03 wrote:From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!
This glider was known here. I think it may have been posted here too
I haven't seen it here, and it's just being cross-posted here for recordkeeping purposes.
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