## Counterfeit Gliders

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LaundryPizza03
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Here's one with an infinitely extensible tagalong and two wickstretchers. It travels at c/4 diagonal.

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``````x = 41, y = 15, rule = B2n3-e4cw5y6n/S01c2-ik3cjnr4c
13bo\$13bo\$15bo\$16bo\$17bo\$18bo\$18bo\$14bo5bo\$15bo5bo6bo\$10bo5bo5bo4bobo
5bo\$5bo5bo5bo5bo6bo6bo\$5bo5bo5bo5bo6bo6bo\$bo5bo5bo5bo5bo6bo6bo\$2bo5bo
5bo5bo5bo6bo6bo\$3o3b3o3b3o3b3o3b3o4b3o4b3o!
``````

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``````x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o\$b2o\$2o!
``````
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Would you count this oscillator as a counterfeit? It has all the normal phases of a normal glider:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B03aijn6a/S1c2-c3-c5r
bo\$2bo\$3o!
``````
Sorry if someone has already posted this
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Macbi
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

cvojan wrote:Would you count this oscillator as a counterfeit? It has all the normal phases of a normal glider:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
That one's really good. It looks like a normal glider flying around in a circle.

77topaz
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Macbi wrote:
cvojan wrote:Would you count this oscillator as a counterfeit? It has all the normal phases of a normal glider:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
That one's really good. It looks like a normal glider flying around in a circle.
It actually only needs to be two transitions away from regular CGoL:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S1e2-e3
b2o\$obo\$2bo!
``````
Cvojan's more complicated rule has the advantage of not being explosive, however. It also has a natural c/34 diagonal spaceship that in a few phases features a glider, though it is not very common:

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``````x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
obo\$2o\$bo2\$b2o!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but that c/34d spaceship is a Spaceship made of Oscillators:

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``````x = 15, y = 6, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
bo11bo\$2bo11bo\$3o2b2o5b3o3\$13b2o!
``````
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Hunting
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

77topaz wrote: It also has a natural c/34 diagonal spaceship that in a few phases features a glider, though it is not very common:

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``````x = 3, y = 5, rule = B2k37/S1e2an3-k6n78
obo\$2o\$bo2\$b2o!
``````
cvojan wrote:I'm not sure if anyone noticed, but that c/34d spaceship is a Spaceship made of Oscillators:
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B/S23|B2/S23
2bo\$2o\$b2o!
``````
EDIT: Oops
EDIT: Oops again
EDIT: There we go. I just remembered that B/S23|B2/S23 is not equivalent to B2/S23|B/S23.
Last edited by Hdjensofjfnen on February 11th, 2019, 3:04 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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``````x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3/S23|B/S012345678
2bo\$2o\$b2o!``````
?
Also,

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``````x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23|B/S12345678
3bo\$4bo\$o3bo\$b4o!
``````
Has fewer sparks in effect. Essentially no dot sparks.
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

This is a pretty poor excuse for a counterfeit MWSS:

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``````x = 9, y = 26, rule = b3aijn4-rs23-kyHistory
4.E\$3.3E\$3.E.2E\$4.3E\$4.3E\$3A.2E\$7.2A\$6.A2\$3.3A\$4.2A5\$2A\$2.A\$2.A\$6A\$2.
A3.A\$2.A3.A\$3.3A\$6.2A\$6.2A\$3.2A\$3.2A!
``````
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'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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``````x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!
``````

Hunting
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B/S12e3nr
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e4r5n/S1e2ae3er
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2k3ainr4k/S01e3an4a
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3aij4j5n/S12ak3n
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ae3n/S2e3jr4j
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3in5n/S12ce5k
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3in6c/S1c2ce3nr4aik5n6c
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cei3ai5n/S1e3n
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cek3in4j5jn/S01c2e4jk
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ae3n4i5in6c/S1e2e3ar5jy6k
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2c3an4r5n/S12ae3ij4k6a
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3ein4jry5c/S012e3k5e
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3ai4q5n/S1e2n3aij4aj
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3aijn4rt6c/S1c2e3nr4ir5jky
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3in5y6ack/S12ek3an4rw5i
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````
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alphazelf
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

c/3 orthogonal

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-a3aein5cir/S1e2n4a5n6a
3o\$2bo\$bo!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

alphazelf wrote:c/3 orthogonal

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-a3aein5cir/S1e2n4a5n6a
3o\$2bo\$bo!
``````
3 cells, too-- It’s tied for smallest counterfeit glider (assuming there is another 3-cell counterfeit glider)
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Moosey wrote:
alphazelf wrote:c/3 orthogonal

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-a3aein5cir/S1e2n4a5n6a
3o\$2bo\$bo!
``````
3 cells, too-- It’s tied for smallest counterfeit glider (assuming there is another 3-cell counterfeit glider)
There's one in Hunting's post right above:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cei3ai5n/S1e3n
bo\$2bo\$3o!``````
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'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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``````x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

I wrote a small script to extend the list of counterfeit gliders. It searches for gliders moving in several directions.
The result is attached as a zip file, containing several rle's. The output file have the names cfg_A_B_C_D.rle where

A = 0 or 1 for the two different glider pattern (0=bo\$2bo\$3o!, 1=obo\$b2o\$bo!).
B = period of the ship
C = ymove (translation in y-direction)
D = xmove (translation in x-direction)

For example cfg_1_15_6_-2.rle contains this ship:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cei3eijny4acjwz5eijy6-en7e/S2-ei3aejq4aceijwy5cery6ak7e
obo\$b2o\$bo!``````
Note that it also contains oscillators (if C=D=0) and the ships do not necessarily have full periods. Moreover, the rulespace is not the minimal one, so many rule appear to be exploding, but often there are stable alternatives available.

There are 1320 files in the zip. So we should have more than 1000 counterfeit gliders.
Attachments
cfg.zip
counterfeit gliders

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Apologies if this is known:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3/S23ar
b2o\$obo\$2bo!``````
"A man said to the universe:
'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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``````x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o\$6bo\$o3b3o\$2o\$bo!
``````

Hunting
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

2718281828 wrote:I wrote a small script to extend the list of counterfeit gliders. It searches for gliders moving in several directions.
I think you invented wheel: AlephAlpha just does this a few days ago.
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77topaz
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Hunting wrote:I think you invented wheel: AlephAlpha just does this a few days ago.
Even if that is indeed the case, 2718281828 would have had no way of knowing about that because AlephAlpha hasn't actually posted said script.

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

77topaz wrote:
Hunting wrote:I think you invented wheel: AlephAlpha just does this a few days ago.
Even if that is indeed the case, 2718281828 would have had no way of knowing about that because AlephAlpha hasn't actually posted said script.
Well he could looked at the files. There this ship is listed:

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ak3-ekr4-acjkr5-eny6-ei7/S01c2cei3cry4-cjkt5-ciy678
bo\$2bo\$3o!
``````
which moves in the same direction but differently. And I am sure that there plenty of other ships, that move with the same displacement as the glider in life.

I thought there is no point in posting the script. It's just a simple loop across the degrees of freedom that calles lls. I let it run for a day or a night, something like this.

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Bump
c/6d G

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar5i8
obo\$2o\$bo!
``````
unusual behavior in another rule supporting it:

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``````x = 118, y = 115, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
113b2o\$112b4o\$115b2o\$5bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4bo
6b3o\$4bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4b2o4bob2o\$3bo6bo6bo
6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo5b2o6bo\$108bo\$109b5o\$110b3o\$103b3o
5bo\$102b2o\$103b2o\$103b3o\$102b5o\$97bo4b5o\$97b2o4b3o\$95bo8bo\$98bo\$bo5bo
7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo6bo\$o7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7b
o5bo6bo2\$95b5o\$47bo13bo13bo20b3o\$47bo13bo13bo21bo\$35b2o10bo13bo13bo6bo
\$81bo8bo\$32b2o44bo10b3o\$35b2o40bo10b5o\$3bo13bo16bo53b5o\$2bo13bo15b2o
55b3o\$90bo\$48bo\$47b3o\$34bo11b5o\$32b5o9b5o\$32b5o10b3o26bo\$32b5o11bo26b
3o\$33b3o38b5o\$20bo13bo39b5o\$20bo53bo3bo\$20bo53bo3bo\$74b5o\$4bo3bo65b5o\$
5bobo40bo26b3o\$47b3o26bo\$2bo7bo35b5o11bo\$3bo5bo36b5o10b3o\$20bo26b3o10b
5o\$19b3o26bo11b5o\$5b3o10b5o37b5o\$62bo3\$62bo\$18b5o37b5o\$18b5o25bo11b5o\$
20bo26b3o10b5o\$46b5o10b3o\$46b5o11bo\$20bo26b3o\$18b5o25bo\$18b5o4\$34bo\$
18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$20bo11b5o10b3o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$20bo
11b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$18b5o10b3o\$34bo3\$34bo\$18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o\$
20bo11b5o\$32bo3bo\$32bo3bo\$20bo11b5o\$18b5o9b5o\$6bo11b5o10b3o\$5b3o26bo\$
4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$20bo3\$20bo\$18b5o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$4bo3bo
10b3o\$4bo3bo11bo2\$6bo7\$6bo\$5b3o\$4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo!
``````
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Moosey wrote:Bump
c/6d G

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar5i8
obo\$2o\$bo!
``````
unusual behavior in another rule supporting it:

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``````x = 118, y = 115, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
113b2o\$112b4o\$115b2o\$5bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4bo
6b3o\$4bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4b2o4bob2o\$3bo6bo6bo
6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo5b2o6bo\$108bo\$109b5o\$110b3o\$103b3o
5bo\$102b2o\$103b2o\$103b3o\$102b5o\$97bo4b5o\$97b2o4b3o\$95bo8bo\$98bo\$bo5bo
7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo6bo\$o7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7b
o5bo6bo2\$95b5o\$47bo13bo13bo20b3o\$47bo13bo13bo21bo\$35b2o10bo13bo13bo6bo
\$81bo8bo\$32b2o44bo10b3o\$35b2o40bo10b5o\$3bo13bo16bo53b5o\$2bo13bo15b2o
55b3o\$90bo\$48bo\$47b3o\$34bo11b5o\$32b5o9b5o\$32b5o10b3o26bo\$32b5o11bo26b
3o\$33b3o38b5o\$20bo13bo39b5o\$20bo53bo3bo\$20bo53bo3bo\$74b5o\$4bo3bo65b5o\$
5bobo40bo26b3o\$47b3o26bo\$2bo7bo35b5o11bo\$3bo5bo36b5o10b3o\$20bo26b3o10b
5o\$19b3o26bo11b5o\$5b3o10b5o37b5o\$62bo3\$62bo\$18b5o37b5o\$18b5o25bo11b5o\$
20bo26b3o10b5o\$46b5o10b3o\$46b5o11bo\$20bo26b3o\$18b5o25bo\$18b5o4\$34bo\$
18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$20bo11b5o10b3o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$20bo
11b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$18b5o10b3o\$34bo3\$34bo\$18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o\$
20bo11b5o\$32bo3bo\$32bo3bo\$20bo11b5o\$18b5o9b5o\$6bo11b5o10b3o\$5b3o26bo\$
4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$20bo3\$20bo\$18b5o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$4bo3bo
10b3o\$4bo3bo11bo2\$6bo7\$6bo\$5b3o\$4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo!
``````
Weird breeder in the same rule

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``````x = 7, y = 5, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
2bo2bo\$2bo3bo\$2bo3bo\$obo3bo\$2bo2bo!
``````
My favourite oscillator of all time

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``````x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
7bo2\$3b2o5b2o\$b2o4bo4b2o\$5b2ob2o\$bobo7bobo\$bo2bobobobo2bo\$5obobob5o\$o
4bo3bo4bo\$b3obobobob3o\$3bob2obo2bo\$8bobo\$8b2o!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Moosey wrote:Bump
c/6d G

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar5i8
obo\$2o\$bo!
``````
unusual behavior in another rule supporting it:

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``````x = 118, y = 115, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
113b2o\$112b4o\$115b2o\$5bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4bo
6b3o\$4bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo4b2o4bob2o\$3bo6bo6bo
6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo6bo5b2o6bo\$108bo\$109b5o\$110b3o\$103b3o
5bo\$102b2o\$103b2o\$103b3o\$102b5o\$97bo4b5o\$97b2o4b3o\$95bo8bo\$98bo\$bo5bo
7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo6bo\$o7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7bo5bo7b
o5bo6bo2\$95b5o\$47bo13bo13bo20b3o\$47bo13bo13bo21bo\$35b2o10bo13bo13bo6bo
\$81bo8bo\$32b2o44bo10b3o\$35b2o40bo10b5o\$3bo13bo16bo53b5o\$2bo13bo15b2o
55b3o\$90bo\$48bo\$47b3o\$34bo11b5o\$32b5o9b5o\$32b5o10b3o26bo\$32b5o11bo26b
3o\$33b3o38b5o\$20bo13bo39b5o\$20bo53bo3bo\$20bo53bo3bo\$74b5o\$4bo3bo65b5o\$
5bobo40bo26b3o\$47b3o26bo\$2bo7bo35b5o11bo\$3bo5bo36b5o10b3o\$20bo26b3o10b
5o\$19b3o26bo11b5o\$5b3o10b5o37b5o\$62bo3\$62bo\$18b5o37b5o\$18b5o25bo11b5o\$
20bo26b3o10b5o\$46b5o10b3o\$46b5o11bo\$20bo26b3o\$18b5o25bo\$18b5o4\$34bo\$
18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$20bo11b5o10b3o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$32bo3bo9b5o\$20bo
11b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o11bo\$18b5o10b3o\$34bo3\$34bo\$18b5o10b3o\$18b5o9b5o\$
20bo11b5o\$32bo3bo\$32bo3bo\$20bo11b5o\$18b5o9b5o\$6bo11b5o10b3o\$5b3o26bo\$
4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$20bo3\$20bo\$18b5o\$6bo11b5o\$18b5o\$4bo3bo
10b3o\$4bo3bo11bo2\$6bo7\$6bo\$5b3o\$4b5o\$4b5o\$5b3o\$6bo!
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P96 G gun:

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``````x = 189, y = 100, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
122b4o8b4o8b4o8b4o10b3o\$11bo59b2o47bo6bo4bo6bo4bo6bo4bo6bo7bo4bo\$10b2o
59b2o46bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8bo5bo6bo\$9b3o2bo53bo2b2o2bo43bo3b2o3bo2bo
3b2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo2bo3b2o3bo3bo2b3o3bo\$14b2o51b2o6b2o42bo8bo2bo8bo2bo8b
o2bo8bo2bobo7bo5bo\$7b4o3b3o49b3o6b3o42bo6bo4bo6bo4bo6bo4bo6bo2bo4bo4bo
7bo\$5b5o4b2o51b2o6b2o45b4o8b4o8b4o8b4o5bob2ob3o\$5bob2ob2o2bo53bo2b2o2b
o89bo3bo\$4b8o59b2o91bobobo\$4b5o2bo59b2o90bo2bo2bo\$2bob2obo155bo2bo2bo\$
b2obob2o155bo5bo14b3o\$3o3b3o14bo159bo3bo\$22b3o139bo3bo\$21b5o139b3o14bo
5bo\$2b5o175bo2bo2bo\$3b3o176bo2bo2bo\$4bo14b3o3b3o155bobobo\$20b2obob2o
155bo3bo\$20bob2obo151b3ob2obo\$16bo2b5o143bo7bo4bo4bo\$16b8o144bo5bo7bob
o\$13bo2b2ob2obo151bo3b3o2bo\$12b2o4b5o151bo6bo\$11b3o3b4o154bo4bo\$12b2o
163b3o\$13bo2b3o\$16b2o\$16bo10\$82b3o\$81bo3bo\$81bo3bo\$82b3o\$82b3o\$81bo3bo
\$81bo3bo\$82b3o5\$95b3o\$94bo3bo3\$94bo3bo\$95b3o7\$82b3o\$81bo3bo\$81bo3bo\$
82b3o\$82b3o\$81bo3bo\$81bo3bo\$82b3o6\$107bo2bo\$68b2o2b2o32bo4bo\$67bo2b2o
2bo31bo4bo\$67bo2b2o2bo31bo4bobo\$67bo2b2o2bo6bo25bo2bo3bo\$68b2o2b2o8bo\$
63b3o48b3o\$62bo3bo46bo3bo\$62bo3bo\$63b3o\$63b3o47bo3bo\$62bo3bo47b3o\$62bo
3bo15b3o10b3o\$63b3o15bo3bo8bo3bo\$81bo3bo\$82b3o\$82b3o9bo3bo\$81bo3bo9b3o
\$81bo3bo\$82b3o12bo3bo2bo\$65bo8b2o2b2o18bobo4bo\$66bo6bo2b2o2bo19bo4bo\$
73bo2b2o2bo19bo4bo\$73bo2b2o2bo20bo2bo\$74b2o2b2o!``````
EDIT:Smaller p96 G gun:

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``````x = 188, y = 28, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
9b3o57b4o\$8bo4bo53bo6bo\$7bo6bo51bo8bo\$5bo2b3o3bo51bo3b2o3bo\$4bobo7bo
51bo8bo36bo10bo49bo\$3bo4bo4bo53bo6bo36b2o10b2o47b2o\$4bob2ob3o57b4o37b
3o10b3o45b3o\$2bo3bo104b2o10b2o47b2o\$bobobo106bo10bo49bo3b2o\$o2bo2bo
170b2o\$o2bo2bo170b2o\$o5bo14b3o142bo\$20bo3bo140b3o\$bo3bo158b5o12b3o\$2b
3o14bo5bo155b3o\$19bo2bo2bo\$19bo2bo2bo\$20bobobo143b3o\$19bo3bo144b3o12b
5o\$14b3ob2obo162b3o\$12bo4bo4bo162bo\$11bo7bobo151b2o\$11bo3b3o2bo152b2o\$
11bo6bo154b2o3bo\$12bo4bo160b2o\$14b3o161b3o\$178b2o\$178bo!``````
EDIT2:Even smaller:

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``````x = 146, y = 14, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
48bo2bo\$47bo4bo43b2o\$47bo4bo43b2o\$3o44bo4bo40bo2b2o2bo44bo\$48bo2bo40b
2o6b2o43bo\$91b3o6b3o42bo\$92b2o6b2o\$93bo2b2o2bo\$96b2o\$96b2o2\$77bo\$76bo
2bo\$77b2o!``````
I'm too shy to talk to other members.
But I want to upload my apgsearch results to Catagolue like others.

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``````x = 12, y = 1, rule = JvN29
FWKNIGHTSHIP!``````

melwin22
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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Probably not known?

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3aijn5c/S13jnr
2o\$obo\$o!
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2718281828
Posts: 738
Joined: August 8th, 2017, 5:38 pm

### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Moosey wrote:Bump
c/6d G

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``````x = 3, y = 3, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar5i8
obo\$2o\$bo!
``````
unusual behavior in another rule supporting it:
somewhat off-topic, but there is this puffer, which yields this engineered 27cell ship:

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``````x = 33, y = 29, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
\$4b2o\$3bo2bo\$2bo3bo\$2bo\$2bo3bo\$3bo2bo6\$17bo3bo\$16bo4bobo\$16bo6bo\$16bo
4bobo\$17bo4bo\$4b2o\$3bo2bo\$2bo3bo7b3o\$2bo\$2bo3bo\$3bo2bo8bo!
``````
It should be gunable.
Edit1:
And a tiny breeder:

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``````x = 6, y = 4, rule = B34ikw/S1c2-c3-ar
2b3o\$bo3bo\$o4bo\$2ob2o!
``````

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### Re: Counterfeit Gliders

toroidalet wrote:
August 12th, 2017, 12:56 pm
A for awesome wrote:It should catch the toad and miss both gliders. Please no one search until I've fixed this.
I tried apgsearching without uploading to Catagolue in V0.54+0.3i and it didn't give any fatal errors, giving an xq4_153 and an xq4_163. V0.54+0.2i also gave an xq4_153 and xq4_163. I think it's safe to run (and really fast).
I ran a hand search 256x256 soup, it caught all three...
The ENEERG-y of the EVAD is watching.
The 70th NAI-ve guy is watching.