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Re: Seeds

Post by CoolCreeper39 » July 31st, 2019, 12:14 am

Small 4c/4 spaceship that’s probably already been discovered:

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x = 6, y = 5, rule = B2/S
2bo$o2bo$bo3bo$5bo$4bo!
p84 agar:

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x = 10, y = 7, rule = B2/S:T10,10
$2o$9bo$9bo$4bo$4bo$2b2o!

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Re: Seeds

Post by CoolCreeper39 » July 31st, 2019, 10:22 pm

A large diagonal c/3 spaceship I copied from an image:

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x = 100, y = 100, rule = B2/S
12bo$9bo2bo$5bo3bo3b2o$3bobo2b2o$bo$o4bo2b2o2bo$9bo2bo2bo$10bo6bo$o2b
2obo$6bo6bo4bo$13b2o$5b2o7bo$4bobo2bo2b2o2b2o$7bobobo2bo$6bo9bo2b4ob2o
$9bo10bobo2$7bo10bo2bobo$21bo3bo$26b2o$19bo4b2o$18bo4bo2b2o$22b2ob3obo
$17bo4bo$20bo8bo$17bo5bo3bo$16b3o3bo5bo$19bo6b2o$16bo3b2o4bob2ob2o$30b
obobo$28bobobo3bo$20bobo5bo3bo7bo$22b4o14bo$36b2o$22bo5b2o9b2o$26bo7b
2o2bobo$25bo4bo9bo$30bobo7bobo$34bobo2bo$31b2o3bo5bo3bo$29bo3b3o12bo$
33bo6bo3bo3bo$32bo6bo3bob2o2bo$31bo4bo5bo2b3o$49bo3bo$35bo4bo8bo3bo$
34bo15bo3b2o$40bo4bo4bo$41bo5bobo$43bo8b2o$51bo2b2obo$58b2o$51bo4bo$
56b2o2bo$52bo3b2o$58bo$50bo6bo$56bo3bobo$51bo$52bobo3bo3b4ob2o$57bo3bo
3bo$64bo$66bo$56bo3b2o4bo2bo$54bo4bo4bo$53bo5bobo2bo5bo$58b2o$57bo2bob
o5b4o$56bo3bo10bo$62b2o5b2o$59bo5bo5bo3bobo$65bo2b2obobo$72bobo2b2obo$
64bo6b2o4b2obo$63bo3bo9bobobo3bo$67bo11bo5bo$67bo6bo2b2o3bo$65bob2o4bo
2b2o6b2o$71bo9b2o2bo$68bo2bo3bo8b2o$72bo6bo5bo$73bo4bo3bo7bo$73b2obo
10bo4bo$71bobo11bobo$93bo$86bob2o7bo$87bob2o6bo$87bo5b2o3b2o$86bo$92bo
$84bob2o5b2ob3o$94bobo$82bo3bo$85bob2ob2o$88bo5bob2o$87bo3bo$91bo4bo2$
95bo$91bo2bo!

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Re: Seeds

Post by CoolCreeper39 » August 2nd, 2019, 2:20 am

Some discoveries:


A stabilized puffer can be used to move a duoplet one cell backwards, as shown here repeated 8 times:

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x = 179, y = 14, rule = B2/S
35bo87bo$13bobo17bobobo21bo21bo19bobo17bobobo21bo21bo$11bo4bo14bobob2o
bo21bo19bobo16bo4bo14bobob2obo21bo19bobo$6bo3bo6bo10bo3b5o2bo8bo3bo8bo
8bo3bo3b3o2bo10bo3bo6bo10bo3b5o2bo8bo3bo8bo8bo3bo3b3o2bo$7bo5b2o2bo9bo
11bo9bo3bo3b2o2bo11bo3bo5bo11bo5b2o2bo9bo11bo9bo3bo3b2o2bo11bo3bo5bo$
14bobo21bo8b2o8b2obo21bo19bobo21bo8b2o8b2obo21bo$15bo10bo8bobo10bo8bob
o21bo21bo10bo8bobo10bo8bobo21bo$4bobo21bo17b2o2bo6bo14bo4bo14bobo21bo
17b2o2bo6bo14bo4bo$6bo15bo2bo2bo18bo2bo15bo5bo21bo15bo2bo2bo18bo2bo15b
o5bo$obobo21bo19bobo21bo17bobobo21bo19bobo21bo$2bo65bo21bo65bo2$178bo$
177bo!

A duoplet puffer can partially stabilize another duoplet puffer, as shown here:

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x = 18, y = 26, rule = B2/S
2bo3bo$3bo3bo4bo$b2o8bobo$2bo9bobo$2o2bo8bobo$bo2bo12bo$obo14bo$14bobo
$13bobo$12bobo$11bobo$12bo3$12bo$11bobo$12bobo$13bobo$17bo$obo14bo$bo
2bo9bobo$2o2bo8bobo$2bo9bobo$b2o8bobo$3bo3bo4bo$2bo3bo!
This can stabilize itself in a torus:

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x = 7, y = 13, rule = B2/S:T0,13
$bo$obo$bobo$2bobo$6bo$6bo$3bobo$2bobo$bobo$obo$bo!

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Re: Seeds

Post by CoolCreeper39 » August 2nd, 2019, 2:24 am

A collection of spaceships:

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x = 132, y = 331, rule = B2/S
44bo$41bo2bo$37bo3bo3b2o$35bobo2b2o$33bo$32bo4bo2b2o2bo$41bo2bo2bo$42b
o6bo$32bo2b2obo$38bo6bo4bo$45b2o$37b2o7bo$36bobo2bo2b2o2b2o$39bobobo2b
o$38bo9bo2b4ob2o$41bo10bobo2$39bo10bo2bobo$53bo3bo$58b2o$51bo4b2o$50bo
4bo2b2o$54b2ob3obo$49bo4bo$52bo8bo$49bo5bo3bo$48b3o3bo5bo$51bo6b2o$48b
o3b2o4bob2ob2o$62bobobo$60bobobo3bo$52bobo5bo3bo7bo$54b4o14bo$68b2o$
54bo5b2o9b2o$58bo7b2o2bobo$57bo4bo9bo$62bobo7bobo$66bobo2bo$63b2o3bo5b
o3bo$61bo3b3o12bo$65bo6bo3bo3bo$64bo6bo3bob2o2bo$63bo4bo5bo2b3o$81bo3b
o$67bo4bo8bo3bo$66bo15bo3b2o$72bo4bo4bo$73bo5bobo$75bo8b2o$83bo2b2obo$
90b2o$83bo4bo$88b2o2bo$84bo3b2o$90bo$82bo6bo$88bo3bobo$83bo$84bobo3bo
3b4ob2o$89bo3bo3bo$96bo$98bo$88bo3b2o4bo2bo$86bo4bo4bo$85bo5bobo2bo5bo
$90b2o$89bo2bobo5b4o$88bo3bo10bo$94b2o5b2o$91bo5bo5bo3bobo$97bo2b2obob
o$104bobo2b2obo$96bo6b2o4b2obo$95bo3bo9bobobo3bo$99bo11bo5bo$99bo6bo2b
2o3bo$97bob2o4bo2b2o6b2o$103bo9b2o2bo$100bo2bo3bo8b2o$104bo6bo5bo$105b
o4bo3bo7bo$105b2obo10bo4bo$103bobo11bobo$125bo$118bob2o7bo$119bob2o6bo
$119bo5b2o3b2o$118bo$124bo$116bob2o5b2ob3o$126bobo$114bo3bo$117bob2ob
2o$120bo5bob2o$119bo3bo$123bo4bo2$127bo$123bo2bo5$23bobo4bo$20bob2o7bo
$11bo5bob2o5bo4bo$17bo12bo$11bo5bo5bobo$17b3o3bo$17bo12bo$17bo5bo8bo$
19b3o10bo$19b3o8bo$17bo5bo$17bo$17b3o3bo6bo$11bo5bo5bobo6bo$17bo14bo$
11bo5bob2o5bo4bo$20bob2o$23bobo$34bo$35bo$31bo3bo$23bo6bo2bo$10bo9bo
11bo$8bo8bo6b2o$o7bo6bo5b2o$10bo7b2o3b3o$o17bo2bo$21bo9bobo$18bo2b3o
10bo$15bo2bob2o13bo$30bobo2bo$32bobo$15bo2bob2o11bo$18bo2b3o$21bo$o17b
o2bo$10bo7b2o3b3o$o7bo6bo5b2o11bobo$8bo8bo6b2o9bo2bo$10bo9bo13b2o2bo$
23bo10bobo$31b3o2bo$31bo5bo$31bo5bo$31b3o2bo$34bobo$34b2o2bo$35bo2bo$
34bobo3$37bo$35bobobo$33bob2o3bo$32bob3obo3bo$33b3obo4bo$31b2obobo4bo$
33bobo$33bo3$32bobo$35bo$31bo4bo$37bo$30b2o2bo2bo$32b3obo$31bobobo$33b
o2$41bobo$30bobo7bo3bo$31bo2bo10bo$30b2o2bo5bobo2bo$32bo9bobo$31b2o8bo
bo$33bo3bo4bo$32bo3bo2$48bo$49bo$31bobo11bo3bo$32bo2bo8bo2bo$31b2o2bo
8bobo$33bo9bobo$32b2o8bobo$34bo3bo4bo$33bo3bo3$44bo$45bo$33bo3bo8bo$
34bo3bo3b2o2bo$32b2o8b2obo$33bo8bobo$31b2o2bo6bo$32bo2bo$31bobo4$33bo
3bo$34bo3bo4bo$32b2o8bobo$33bo9bobo$31b2o2bo5bobo2bo$32bo2bo10bo$31bob
o7bo3bo$42bobo4$31bobo$32bo2bo$31b2o2bo$33bo$32b2o$34bo3bo$33bo3bo4bo$
43bo$44bo4bo$45bo4bo$34bo3bo7bo3bo$35bo3bo8bo$33b2o12bo$34bo$32b2o2bo$
33bo2bo$32bobo5$32bobo$33bo2bo$32b2o2bo$34bo$33b2o$35bo3bo$34bo3bo4bo$
44bo$45bo$46bo$39bo7bo$48bo$48bo$46bo$45bo$44bo$34bo3bo4bo$35bo3bo$33b
2o$34bo$32b2o2bo$33bo2bo$32bobo4$33bo3bo$34bo3bo4bo$32b2o8bobo$33bo9bo
bo$31b2o2bo8bobo$32bo2bo12bo$31bobo14bo$45bobo$44bobo$43bobo$42bobo$
43bo3$43bo$42bobo$43bobo$44bobo$48bo$31bobo14bo$32bo2bo9bobo$31b2o2bo
8bobo$33bo9bobo$32b2o8bobo$34bo3bo4bo$33bo3bo3$33bo3bo$34bo3bo4bo$32b
2o8bobo$33bo9bobo$31b2o2bo8bobo$32bo2bo12bo$31bobo14bo$45bobo$44bobo$
43bobo$42bobo$43bo3$43bo$42bobo$43bobo$44bobo$48bo$48bo$45bobo$44bobo$
43bobo$42bobo$43bo3$43bo$42bobo$43bobo$44bobo$48bo$31bobo14bo$32bo2bo
9bobo$31b2o2bo8bobo$33bo9bobo$32b2o8bobo$34bo3bo4bo$33bo3bo!
Please tell me if I’m missing any!

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Re: Seeds

Post by wildmyron » August 5th, 2019, 4:08 am

CoolCreeper39 wrote:A collection of spaceships:

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<snip spaceship collection>
Please tell me if I’m missing any!
You should have a look at Jason Summer's pattern collection for Seeds (available from his website), even though it is quite old now it has quite a lot of interesting stuff. There are photons and lightspeed puffers with a range of periods and also c/2 orthogonal spaceships at p2 and p4.

In addition, there are these spaceships with speeds not included in your collection

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#Cc/5 orthogonal spaceships.
#CBy Artem Dergachev
x = 70, y = 96, rule = B2/S
51bo10bo$7bo10bo27bo2b2o2bo6bo2b2o2bo$2bo2b2o2bo6bo2b2o2bo21bo3bo4bo4b
o4bo3bo$bo3bo4bo4bo4bo3bo24bo3bobo2bobo3bo$5bo3bobo2bobo3bo28bo3bo6bo
3bo$5bo3bo6bo3bo$44bo10bo2bo10bo$o10bo2bo10bo19bo4b3o8b3o4bo$bo4b3o8b
3o4bo20bob2obobo8bobob2obo$bob2obobo8bobob2obo20bobobo14bobobo$bobobo
14bobobo21bobobo12bobobo$2bobobo12bobobo25bo14bo$5bo14bo28bobo3bo2bo3b
obo$5bobo3bo2bo3bobo31bo8bo$8bo8bo30bo2b2o8b2o2bo$4bo2b2o8b2o2bo25bo5b
obo2bobo5bo$3bo5bobo2bobo5bo30bo6bo$9bo6bo36bo6bo$9bo6bo30bo2bobob2o2b
2obobo2bo$3bo2bobob2o2b2obobo2bo22b2o3bo2bo6bo2bo3b2o$b2o3bo2bo6bo2bo
3b2o19bobo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bobo$obo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bobo20bo20bo$2bo20bo23bo
18bo$3bo18bo22bo22bo$bo22bo25bo12bo$6bo12bo31bo10bo$7bo10bo29bo16bo$4b
o16bo23bob2o3bob2o2b2obo3b2obo$bob2o3bob2o2b2obo3b2obo22b3o3bo6bo3b3o$
3b3o3bo6bo3b3o26bob2obo4bob2obo$5bob2obo4bob2obo30bo10bo$7bo10bo29bo5b
o4bo5bo$4bo5bo4bo5bo26bo6bo2bo6bo$4bo6bo2bo6bo26bo6bo2bo6bo$4bo6bo2bo
6bo23bo22bo$bo22bo19bo6bo10bo6bo$o6bo10bo6bo$47bo8b2o8bo$3bo8b2o8bo28b
o10bo$7bo10bo27bo9b2o9bo$2bo9b2o9bo26bo12bo$6bo12bo25bo7b3o2b3o7bo$bo
7b3o2b3o7bo26b2o8b2o$7b2o8b2o28b3obo3bo2bo3bob3o$3b3obo3bo2bo3bob3o27b
o12bo$6bo12bo32b2o6b2o$8b2o6b2o31bobo10bobo$5bobo10bobo24bo2b2o14b2o2b
o$bo2b2o14b2o2bo3$45bo2bo16bo2bo$bo2bo16bo2bo21bo3bo2bo6bo2bo3bo$2bo3b
o2bo6bo2bo3bo23b3o4bo4bo4b3o$3b3o4bo4bo4b3o$48bo16bo$4bo16bo27bo14bo$
5bo14bo$50bo12bo$6bo12bo3$48b2o14b2o$4b2o14b2o31bo6bo$9bo6bo36bo6bo$9b
o6bo37bo4bo$10bo4bo33b4o8b4o$5b4o8b4o32bo6bo$9bo6bo33b2o10b2o$6b2o10b
2o35bo2bo$11bo2bo34bob2o8b2obo$5bob2o8b2obo27bobo12bobo$4bobo12bobo28b
3o8b3o$6b3o8b3o30bo3bo4bo3bo$6bo3bo4bo3bo28bobo12bobo$4bobo12bobo27b3o
3bo2bo3b3o$5b3o3bo2bo3b3o34bo2bo$11bo2bo$51bo10bo$7bo10bo34bo6bo$9bo6b
o$50bobo8bobo$6bobo8bobo29bo4bo4bo4bo$5bo4bo4bo4bo33bo4bo$10bo4bo37b2o
4b2o$9b2o4b2o34bo10bo$7bo10bo28bo3bo10bo3bo$3bo3bo10bo3bo28bo2b6o2bo$
7bo2b6o2bo34b2o4b2o$9b2o4b2o38bo2bo$11bo2bo34bo14bo$5bo14bo34bo2bo$52b
o2bo2bo2bo$50b3o8b3o$49bobob3o2b3obobo$51bobo6bobo!

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#Cc/4 diagonal spaceships.
#CBy Artem Dergachev
x = 83, y = 82, rule = B2/S
43bo$14bo32bo$43bo$8bo5bo24bobo2bo$8bobo4bo29bobo3bo$8b2o6bo26bobo4bob
2o$10b2o5bo19bo5bob2o3bo2bo$12b4o27bo4b2o2b2o$12bo24bo$12bo25bo2bobo4b
o3bo$5bo33bo2bo7bo$9bo2b2o27bo$5bo4b2o29bo6bo$6bo5bo28bo2b2o$8bobo31bo
$43bo$44bo2bo$42b2o$41bobo$43bo15$45bo$8bo$45bo$8bo37bo3bo$9bo3bo33bo$
10bo36bo$10bo34bo6bo$8bo6bo28bo3bo$7bo3bo25bo11bo2b2o$o11bo2b2o25bo3bo
$5bo3bo27bo3b2o4b3ob2obo$o3b2o4b3ob2obo20bo7bo$bo7bo30bo5bo2b4o2bo$3bo
5bo2b4o2bo22bo3b2o7bo6bo$4bo3b2o7bo25b3o6b2ob2o$6b3o6b2ob2o34bo6bo$17b
o30bo5bo7bo$11bo5bo6bobo19bo3bob2o9bo2bo$9bo3bob2o10bo22bo2b2o2bo6bobo
$13bo2b2o34bo4bobob2obobobo$15bo2b2o8bo27bobo8bo$19bo5bo32bo9b2o$18bob
o5bobo30bo3bo$20bo5bo28bobo9b4obo$21b3obobo22bo7bo6bo3b2o$21bo3bo34b3o
6bo3bo$15bobo3bo28bo4bo13b2o$18bo2bo29bo3b2obob2o7bo3b2o$19bo33bo2b3o
8b3o2bo$20bo35bob2o9bo$56bo2bo2bo5bo$57bobo2bo5bo3bo4bo$68b2o2bo6bo$
70b2o3b2o3bo$63bobobo4b4o$60b2o5bo4bo4bo3bo$65bobo4bo3b3o$60bo2bobo13b
2o$70bo2bo$74bo4bo$68b2o6bobo2bo$74bo2bobo2bo$71bo5bo$71bo6b2o2bo2$76b
o$72bo$80bo!
Edit: If you are interested in this rule you should have a look at previous research. See the article on the Lifewiki: http://conwaylife.com/wiki/Seeds and the references provided in this post.
The latest version of the 5S Project contains over 226,000 spaceships. There is also a GitHub mirror of the collection. Tabulated pages up to period 160 (out of date) are available on the LifeWiki.

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Re: Seeds

Post by LaundryPizza03 » August 5th, 2019, 7:53 am

Beginning search for c/3 orthogonal or a period multiple.

Unfortunately it seems to be a dud so far:

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ntzfind 3.0 by "zdr", Matthias Merzenich, Aidan Pierce, and Tomas Rokicki, 24 February 2018
- ./ntzfind B2/S p3 k1 w14 v
Rule: B2/S
Period: 3
Offset: 1
Width:  14
Symmetry: even
Depth limit: 2000
Stop search if a ship is found.
Starting search
............o..o............
...........o....o...........
............o..o............
Length: 7
Search complete: 0 spaceships found.
Calculations: 111688
CPU time: 186.786479 seconds

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x = 34, y = 3, rule = B2/S
bo2bo24bo2bo$o4bo22bo4bo$bo2bo24bo2bo!
This may explain why c/3o has not been found yet.

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by wildmyron » August 5th, 2019, 11:55 am

LaundryPizza03 wrote:Beginning search for c/3 orthogonal or a period multiple.

Unfortunately it seems to be a dud so far:

<snip results>

This may explain why c/3o has not been found yet.
Well I don't expect it will be an easy search. The B2/S0 example was found with gfind and I'm fairly sure there was no p3 c/3 ship out to the limit of gfind (search width 28, full width 55u or 56v)

This is the longest p6 partial from ntzfind sear "p6 k2 w11 u"

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x = 21, y = 20, rule = B2/S
8bo3bo$7bo5bo3$9bobo$5bo9bo$4bobo7bobo$3bobo3bobo3bobo$5bo9bo$6bo7bo$
7bo5bo2$2bo5bo3bo5bo$bo4b3o3b3o4bo$8b2ob2o$3o2bobo5bobo2b3o$5bo3bobo3b
o$2b2o13b2o$2bo15bo$2bo2bo3b3o3bo2bo!

Depending on how much RAM is required for the width 12 search, it may be necessary to switch over to gfind.
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Re: Seeds

Post by LaundryPizza03 » August 5th, 2019, 1:02 pm

wildmyron wrote:
LaundryPizza03 wrote:Beginning search for c/3 orthogonal or a period multiple.

Unfortunately it seems to be a dud so far:

<snip results>

This may explain why c/3o has not been found yet.
Well I don't expect it will be an easy search. The B2/S0 example was found with gfind and I'm fairly sure there was no p3 c/3 ship out to the limit of gfind (search width 28, full width 55u or 56v)

This is the longest p6 partial from ntzfind sear "p6 k2 w11 u"

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x = 21, y = 20, rule = B2/S
8bo3bo$7bo5bo3$9bobo$5bo9bo$4bobo7bobo$3bobo3bobo3bobo$5bo9bo$6bo7bo$
7bo5bo2$2bo5bo3bo5bo$bo4b3o3b3o4bo$8b2ob2o$3o2bobo5bobo2b3o$5bo3bobo3b
o$2b2o13b2o$2bo15bo$2bo2bo3b3o3bo2bo!

Depending on how much RAM is required for the width 12 search, it may be necessary to switch over to gfind.
I reached the same conclusions and the same partial. Based on the nature of the partial, I strongly suspect that reduced-period c/3o is impossible. I know that width 14 will definitely require gfind or partial extension. I am out of the house, so I cannot tell you how my width-12 search is progressing.

EDIT: It found 3 distinct partials, ordered here from shortest to longest. Because it depleted my RAM, any further searches will require gfind.

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x = 73, y = 22, rule = B2/S
2bo3bo5bo3bo15bo3bo22bo3bo$bo5bo3bo5bo13bo5bo20bo5bo3$3bobo7bobo11bo5b
obo5bo18bobo$27bo13bo14bo9bo$3b2o9b2o14bo7bo16bobo7bobo$5b3o3b3o12bo3b
o2bobo2bo3bo11bobo3bobo3bobo$3bo11bo7bo3bo13bo3bo10bo9bo$3b3o7b3o11bo
2bo7bo2bo15bo7bo$bo6b3o6bo7b4o11b4o14bo5bo$o3bo9bo3bo10bo9bo$24b2o17b
2o9bo4bo3bo4bo$24bo2bo2bobo3bobo2bo2bo8bob2o2bo3bo2b2obo$23bo2bo15bo2b
o6bob3o9b3obo$25bo6bo3bo6bo9b3o11b3o$24bo3bo2b2obob2o2bo3bo6b3o6bobo6b
3o$27bo3bo2bo2bo3bo9bo5bo2bobo2bo5bo$50bobo7bobo7bobo$51bo5bo3bo3bo5bo
$54bo13bo$53bo15bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by LaundryPizza03 » August 5th, 2019, 5:58 pm

Here are some c/4o partials of width 11 on various symmetries:

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x = 61, y = 17, rule = B2/S
5bo9bo18bo2bo18bo$3bo4bo3bo4bo14b2o4b2o13bo4bo$2bo15bo32bo7bo$34bo2bo
12bo$7b3ob3o16bo3b4o3bo$30bo3bo2bo3bo14bo$bo3b2o7b2o3bo9bo12bo7bo5b2o
2bo$3bo13bo34bo6bo$2o2bo2bob3obo2bo2b2o9bo10bo2$28bo14bo$33bo4bo$25bob
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2obo$28b2o5b2o5b2o$26b2o5bo4bo5b2o$28bo6b2o6bo$31b4o2b
4o!
The even-symmetric one looks best.

Best partial found for 2c/5o:

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x = 20, y = 9, rule = B2/S
8bo2bo$6bo6bo$3bo12bo$bo2bo10bo2bo$2b2o3b2o2b2o3b2o$o2bo3bob2obo3bo2bo
$7b6o$8bo2bo$2b2ob2o6b2ob2o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by LaundryPizza03 » August 8th, 2019, 8:25 pm

Possible (2,1)c/5 partials:

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x = 25, y = 10, rule = B2/S
5bo12bo$7bo12bo$23bo$8bo$3b2o11b2o4bo$o4bo2bo13bo$20bo$5bo16b2o$16bo$
14bob3ob2o2bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by CoolCreeper39 » August 8th, 2019, 10:10 pm

Methuselahs in Seeds (Non-record breakers are not shown):

1-cell bounding box: 1G

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x = 1, y = 1, rule = B2/S
o!
2-cell bounding box: 5G

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x = 1, y = 2, rule = B2/S
o$o!
3-cell bounding box: 6G

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x = 1, y = 3, rule = B2/S
o2$o!
9-cell bounding box: 14G

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x = 1, y = 9, rule = B2/S
o2$o$o$o2$o$o$o!
10 and 11-cell bounding boxes fail to produce any more record-breakers.


The smallest infinite growth pattern in Seeds is this, with a 4-cell bounding box:

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x = 2, y = 2, rule = B2/S
bo$2o!
Compare this with Life’s smallest infinite growth pattern, with a 24-cell bounding box:

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x = 12, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
ob4ob2o2bo$o2b2ob6o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 8th, 2019, 11:46 pm

CoolCreeper39 wrote:Methuselahs in Seeds:

1-cell bounding box: 1G
...
We tend to measure methuselahs by minimum covering polyplet size, or MCPS, not by bounding box. In which case, we have L = 9 for MCPS = 3:

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x = 3, y = 2, rule = B2/S
bo$obo!
EDIT: Pattern recovers itself flipped 90 degrees when hit by a photon:

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x = 15, y = 31, rule = B2/S
13bo$12bo2$o11bo$o13bo26$10b2o!
EDIT: I suppose these are in some pattern collection somewhere:

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x = 5, y = 6, rule = B2/S
bo$o$o3bo$2bo$3bo$4bo!

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x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2/S
4bo3bo$4b2ob2o$3bo5bo$o11bo$b2o7b2o!
EDIT: Longest methuselah I've found that doesn't involve spaceships (MCPS=28, L=17):

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x = 12, y = 12, rule = B2/S
7b3o$9bo$7bob3o$11bo$9bobo3$obo$o$3obo$2bo$2b3o!
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'Sir, I exist!'
'However,' replied the universe,
'The fact has not created in me
A sense of obligation.'" -Stephen Crane

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Seeds

Post by LaundryPizza03 » August 22nd, 2019, 6:04 am

I see that there has been no investigation into the speeds between c/2 and c orthogonal, though this is difficult with the usual spaceship search programs. But here is a possible 3c/5o partial matching 7 rows:

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x = 23, y = 9, rule = B2/S
9bo3bo2$9bo3bo$7bo7bo$4bo3bo5bo3bo$3bo15bo$bo2bo13bo2bo$o2bo2bob2o3b2o
bo2bo2bo$3bo2b2o7b2o2bo!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Seeds

Post by Layz Boi » October 4th, 2019, 4:04 pm

Here are some mostly extendable P4 oscillators:

Edit: more

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x = 164, y = 84, rule = B2/S
6$74b3o$73bo3bo$45b3o$14bo29bo3bo35bo3bo$12bobobo57bobo8bobo$13b3o$45b
obo22bo22bo$71bo2bobo8bobo2bo3bo$58bo35bo$7bo6bo30bobo2bo4bo3bo11bo2b
ob2o6b2obo2bo3bo$8bo4bobo17bo19bo5bo10bo5b2obo2bob2o7bo$6b3o3bobo8bo10b
o9b2obo2bo4bo3bo$8bo4bo3bo4bo16bo2bob2o12bo18bobo2bobo$7bo8bobo3b3o11b
o$15bobo4bo9bo6bo2bobo$16bo6bo10bo42bobo2bobo$33bo$42bobo23bo7b2obo2b
ob2o7bo$41bo3bo21bo3bo2bob2o6b2obo2bo3bo$15b3o49bo26bo$14bobobo48bo3b
o2bobo8bobo2bo3bo$16bo51bo24bo2$74bobo8bobo$73bo3bo6bo3bo9$7bo9bo$6bo
3bo3bo3bo$9bo5bo$30bo3bo$5bo5bobo5bo7b3o5b3o88bobo7bo$2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo
3bo3bo11bo62bo3bo2bo3bo2bo3bo5bo3bo5bo3bo$3bo17bo80bobo4bobo4bobo13bo
5bo$42bo4b3o7b3o5b3o5b3o74bobo$30bobobo4b3o4bobobo5bobobo3bobobo3bobo
bo29bobobobobo33bobobobo$5bo13bo10bobobo3bo9bobobobobobo7bobobobobo29b
o11bo11bo7bo9bobobobobobo$7bobobobobobo12bobobobobo11bobobobo11bobobo
57bobobo$30bo3bobobo11bobobobo11bobobo$5bo5bobo5bo7b3o4bobobo91bobobo
9bo13bo$2bo3bo2bo5bo2bo3bo3bo77bo11bo11bo7bo8bobo7bobo$3bo17bo24bo13b
o3bo11bo29bobobobobo12bo9bo11bobobo$30bo11bo4b3o7b3o5b3o5b3o49bobo9bo
bo9bobobo$7bo9bo13b3o5b3o8bo5bo11bo3bo33bobobobobo11b3o7b3o10bobobo$6b
o3bo3bo3bo15bo3bo65bo11bo$9bo5bo135bo$129bobobobo13bobobo$150b3o$104b
o11bo$106bobobobobo$131bobo$102bobo4bobo4bobo11bo3bo$101bo3bo2bo3bo2b
o3bo2$48bo7bo$18bo27bobobo3bobobo$19bo27b3o5b3o$16bo$17bo25bo$15bo4bo
20b2o21bo$12bo9bo18b2o4bobo5bobo5bo$11bo9bo18bo6bobo5bobo5b3o$14bo9bo
38bo$13bo9bo40bo$15bo4bo$18bo28b3o5b3o$19bo26bobobo3bobobo$16bo31bo7b
o$17bo!
Edit: some polymers of an old P4

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x = 59, y = 36, rule = B2/S
2$55bo$34bo12bo3bo5bo$24bo5bo2bo11bo7bobo$2bo5bo16bo2bo6bo10bo3bobobo
bo$4bo2bo15bo5bo24bo$bobo23b2o21bo$4b2o23bobobo12bo5bo3bo$3bo5bo3bo11b
o2bo6bo12bobo6bo$4bo2bo7bo8bo5bo2bo13bobobo3bo$2bo5bobo3bo19bo14bo$32b
2o$10bo15bobo5bobo10bo3bo$8bo5bo9bo5bo2bo12bo5bo$9bo3bo12bo2bo5bo12bo
$25bo5$4bo$5bo2bo$3bo5bo13bo13bo$5bobo16bo2bo5bo2bo$22bo6bo2bo5bo$13b
o14bo5bobo$3bo5bo2bo16b2o$5bo2bo5bo9bobobo$4bo5bobo9bo6bo2bo5bo$24bo2b
o5bo2bo$23bo13bo$8bo5bo$9bo2bo$13bo!
Edit: P12 :o

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x = 34, y = 19, rule = B2/S
$9bo$10bo$8b3o13bo$12bo10bo$6bo2bo13b3o$2bo9bo3bo4bo$bo7bo14bo2bo$5bo
6bo8bo9bo$bo7bo6b2o6bo7bo$2bo9bo8bo6bo$6bo2bo14bo7bo$12bo4bo3bo9bo$8b
3o13bo2bo$10bo10bo$9bo13b3o$23bo$24bo!

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