There is the odd oscillator though, and I've decided to investigate those.
Barberpole-style:
x = 18, y = 5, rule = B3/S12
2o4bo6b2o$o5bobo4bobo$b2o4bo$8b2o5bobo$16b2o!
and the "Pickaxe":
x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S12
2bo$2bo$obobo$2o2bo!
x = 18, y = 5, rule = B3/S12
2o4bo6b2o$o5bobo4bobo$b2o4bo$8b2o5bobo$16b2o!
x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S12
2bo$2bo$obobo$2o2bo!
x = 17, y = 5, rule = B3/S12
14b2o$obo3bobo5bo$o7bo7bo$bo6bo7bo$2b2o3b2o5b2o!
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S12
b2o$o$bobo$4bo$3b2o!
x = 33, y = 8, rule = B3/S12
bo2bo$4bo10b2ob2o$o3bo$b3o2bo19bobo3bo$2bo2b3o11bo6bobo3bo$4bo3bo5b2o
2bo10bo$4bo8bob2o$4bo2bo5bobo!
drc wrote:http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3s12
You should check there ^
Alexey_Nigin wrote:Firstly, the database has three spaceships that work in this rule, but those are sadly all very big and clumsy.
Secondly, I have just started apgsearching this rule (D4_+2 symmetry, two cores involved), and the results should soon appear here.
x = 25, y = 8, rule = B3/S12
2bobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobo$22bobo$19bo2bobo$obo
16bo$obo$2bobobobobobobobobobobo$2bobobobobobobobobobobo!
x = 123, y = 17, rule = B3/S12
91b2o$b2o4bo7bo4b2o20bobo66bo2bo$o2bo2bo9bo2bo2bo19bobo47bo2bo15bob3o$
bo3bo11bo3bo18bobobobobo42b5o18b2o$5b2o4bo4b2o22bobo3bobo20bo18bo3b5o
17b2o5b2o$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo22bo3bo21b3o15b3o24b3o$4b2obobo3bobob2o23bo3b
2o17b3ob2o16b2o26bo2bo2bo$4b3o9b3o23bo26bo2bo14b2o8bo2bo17b5o$4b2obobo
3bobob2o23bo3b2o18bo2bo14bob3o7b3obo8b5o3b5o$3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo22bo3bo21b
2ob3o10bo2bo8b2o10b5o$5b2o4bo4b2o22bobo3bobo19b3o25b2o11bo2bo2bo$bo3bo
11bo3bo18bobobobobo20bo26b3o16b3o$o2bo2bo9bo2bo2bo19bobo43b5o3bo11b2o
5b2o$b2o4bo7bo4b2o20bobo44b5o21b2o$89bo2bo22b3obo$116bo2bo$92b2o!
x = 6, y = 6, rule = B3/S12
o4bo$o4bo$2b2o$2b2o$o4bo$o4bo!
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S12
7b2ob2o3$5bo7bo$6b7o$3bo11bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo$o3bobo5bobo3bo$o3bo9bo3bo$4b
o9bo$o3bo9bo3bo$o3bobo5bobo3bo$4bo2bo3bo2bo$3bo11bo$6b7o$5bo7bo3$7b2ob
2o!
x = 10, y = 10, rule = B3/S12
2o2$4o$4bo$2bo$2bo3bo$7bo$4b2obo$7bobo$7bobo!
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
muzik wrote:And what exactly is the symmetry? I haven't used any searching tools or anything so I'm kind of a noob to that
x = 32, y = 31, rule = B3/S12
bobboobobooobobbbboboooboboobbob$
bobobobbobboobooooboobbobbobobob$
ooobbbbobbooooobbooooobbobbbbooo$
bbboboboobobobboobboboboobobobbb$
oboboobobooooobbbboooooboboobobo$
obboobbobobbbbbbbbbbbbobobboobbo$
oobboooboooobooooooboooobooobboo$
bbobbobobboobobbbboboobbobobbobb$
bbbbobobboboobbbbbboobobbobobbbb$
bobbbbbbobboobobboboobbobbbbbbob$
oobobbbbbboobooooooboobbbbbboboo$
oboooooobbbbboooooobbbbboooooobo$
oobbbobbobbbbboooobbbbbobbobbboo$
bbobbobobbbbboooooobbbbbobobbobb$
oooobobboboooobooboooobobboboooo$
oobbbobboooboooooooobooobbobbboo$
oooobobboboooobooboooobobboboooo$
bbobbobobbbbboooooobbbbbobobbobb$
oobbbobbobbbbboooobbbbbobbobbboo$
oboooooobbbbboooooobbbbboooooobo$
oobobbbbbboobooooooboobbbbbboboo$
bobbbbbbobboobobboboobbobbbbbbob$
bbbbobobboboobbbbbboobobbobobbbb$
bbobbobobboobobbbboboobbobobbobb$
oobboooboooobooooooboooobooobboo$
obboobbobobbbbbbbbbbbbobobboobbo$
oboboobobooooobbbboooooboboobobo$
bbboboboobobobboobboboboobobobbb$
ooobbbbobbooooobbooooobbobbbbooo$
bobobobbobboobooooboobbobbobobob$
bobboobobooobobbbboboooboboobbob!
x = 95, y = 48, rule = B3/S12
18$28bo$27bo25bo$32bo17bo3bo$25bo2b3o2bo20bo$24bo3b2o20bo3bo$7b2o21bo
4bo19b3o11bo$9bo15bobo4b2o2bo9bobo2b2o5bo11bo$5bo4b2o13b2o5b2o16bo2bo$
5bo3bobo10bo2b2o4bobo16bo2bo13bobo2bo$6bobobobo10bo4bo16bo5b2o2bobo8bo
3bo2bo$7bobo3bo15b2o3bo11b3o15bobo$7b2o4bo11bo2b3o2bo15bo3bo11bo4bo$9b
o16bo22bo18b2o$10b2o19bo17bo3bo13bo$30bo19bo17bo!
Bullet51 wrote:It seems that drifter and gsearch fail completely in this rule.
All of the oscillators (including the ones I found above) are found by Randagar and WLS:Code: Select allx = 95, y = 48, rule = B3/S12
18$28bo$27bo25bo$32bo17bo3bo$25bo2b3o2bo20bo$24bo3b2o20bo3bo$7b2o21bo
4bo19b3o11bo$9bo15bobo4b2o2bo9bobo2b2o5bo11bo$5bo4b2o13b2o5b2o16bo2bo$
5bo3bobo10bo2b2o4bobo16bo2bo13bobo2bo$6bobobobo10bo4bo16bo5b2o2bobo8bo
3bo2bo$7bobo3bo15b2o3bo11b3o15bobo$7b2o4bo11bo2b3o2bo15bo3bo11bo4bo$9b
o16bo22bo18b2o$10b2o19bo17bo3bo13bo$30bo19bo17bo!
muzik wrote:Would guns be possible in this rule?
velcrorex wrote:muzik wrote:Would guns be possible in this rule?
I'd say it's unlikely. First, what spaceship would the guns shoot? Even the smallest spaceships in this rule are a bit large. Second, we'd need some kind of sparky medium-high period oscillator to provide sparks which would combine to produce the spaceship, which then has to get out of the way before the next sparks come in.
In normal life (B3/S23) the glider is tiny, only 5 cells, and we have some useful oscillators like the queen bee shuttle, and indeed we have such a gun: http://www.conwaylife.com/w/images/b/b6 ... dergun.gif
That said, the usual caveat applies here: anyone is welcome to prove me wrong by finding/constructing such a wonderful object.
tldr; probably not.
x = 20, y = 22, rule = B3/S12
$9bobo2$11bo$11bo2$9b2o$9bo4b2obo$2bo4b2o3bo$7bo3b2o4bo$2bob2o4bo$9b2o
2$8bo$8bo2$8bobo!
x = 24, y = 41, rule = B3/S12
9bo4bo$9b6o$10b4o2$7b2ob4ob2o$6bobo2b2o2bobo$5bobo3b2o3bobo$2b3o
3bo6bo3b3o$bobo4bo6bo4bobo$o2bo3bo8bo3bo2bo$o4b3o8b3o4bo$4bob3o6b
3obo$bobo3bo8bo3bobo2$3bo4b2o4b2o4bo$6bo10bo$3bobo12bobo$9b2o2b2o
$4bo14bo$5bo4b4o4bo$6bo2bo4bo2bo$7b2o6b2o$8b3o2b3o$8bo6bo2$7bo2b
4o2bo2$8bobo2bobo$2b2o2b2ob2o2b2ob2o2b2o$3b2o14b2o$3bo6bo2bo6bo$
3bo3b2obo2bob2o3bo$b2o4bo3b2o3bo4b2o$4bo14bo$5b2o10b2o$5bobobo4b
obobo$8bobo2bobo$6bobo6bobo$7b2o6b2o$8bo2b2o2bo$9bo4bo!
x = 83, y = 43, rule = B3/S12
26bo$25bo28bo$3bo19bobo3bo23bo$2bo20bobo3bo21bobo3bo21bo$obo3bo18bo25b
obo3bo20bo$obo3bo18bo27bo22bobo3bo$2bo22bo3bo23bo22bobo3bo$2bo22bo25bo
bo3bo20bo$2bo22bo25bobo3bo20bo$obo3bo16bobo3bo23bo24bo3bo$obo3bo16bobo
3bo23bo24bo$2bo22bo27bo22bobo$3bo22bo24bobo3bo18bobo3bo$51bobo3bo20bo
3bo$53bo24bo$53bo24bo$51bobo3bo20bo3bo$51bobo3bo20bo$53bo22bobo$54bo
21bobo3bo$78bo3bo$78bo$78bo$78bo3bo$78bo$76bobo$76bobo3bo$78bo3bo$78bo
$78bo$78bo3bo$78bo$76bobo$76bobo3bo$78bo3bo$78bo$78bo$78bo$78bo$76bobo
3bo$76bobo3bo$78bo$79bo!
x = 7, y = 515, rule = B3/S12
3bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo
$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo
$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2b
o3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2b
o$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2b
o$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3b
o$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$o
bo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo
3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo
$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo
$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo
$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2b
o3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2b
o$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2b
o$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3b
o$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$o
bo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo
3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo
$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo
$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo
$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2b
o3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2b
o$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2b
o$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3b
o$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$o
bo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo
3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo
$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo
$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo
$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2b
o3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2b
o$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2b
o$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3b
o$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$o
bo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo
3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo
$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo
$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo3bo
$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$2bo$obo3bo$obo3bo$2bo$3bo!
muzik wrote:I'm trying to find puffers in this rule. Not having much luck.
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!
Saka wrote:muzik wrote:I'm trying to find puffers in this rule. Not having much luck.
Suggestion: put stuff behind sparky spaceships and hope it becomes a puffer
x = 49, y = 41, rule = B3/S12
9bo4bo19bo4bo$9b6o3b5o3b5o3b6o$10b4o21b4o$24bo$7b2ob4ob2o7bo7b2ob4ob2o
$6bobo2b2o2bobo13bobo2b2o2bobo$5bobo3b2o3bobo11bobo3b2o3bobo$2b3o3bo6b
o3b3o5b3o3bo6bo3b3o$bobo4bo6bo4bobo3bobo4bo6bo4bobo$o2bo3bo8bo3bo2bobo
2bo3bo8bo3bo2bo$o4b3o8b3o4bobo4b3o8b3o4bo$4bob3o6b3obo9bob3o6b3obo$bob
o3bo8bo3bobo3bobo3bo8bo3bobo2$3bo4b2o4b2o4bo7bo4b2o4b2o4bo$6bo10bo13bo
10bo$3bobo12bobo7bobo12bobo$9b2o2b2o19b2o2b2o$4bo14bo9bo14bo$5bo4b4o4b
o11bo4b4o4bo$6bo2bo4bo2bo13bo2bo4bo2bo$7b2o6b2o15b2o6b2o$8b3o2b3o17b3o
2b3o$8bo6bo17bo6bo2$7bo2b4o2bo15bo2b4o2bo2$8bobo2bobo17bobo2bobo$2b2o
2b2ob2o2b2ob2o2b2o5b2o2b2ob2o2b2ob2o2b2o$3b2o14b2o7b2o14b2o$3bo6bo2bo
6bo7bo6bo2bo6bo$3bo3b2obo2bob2o3bo7bo3b2obo2bob2o3bo$b2o4bo3b2o3bo4b2o
3b2o4bo3b2o3bo4b2o$4bo14bo9bo14bo$5b2o10b2o11b2o10b2o$5bobobo4bobobo
11bobobo4bobobo$8bobo2bobo17bobo2bobo$6bobo6bobo13bobo6bobo$7b2o6b2o
15b2o6b2o$8bo2b2o2bo17bo2b2o2bo$9bo4bo19bo4bo!
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