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Elementary knightship

Postby calcyman » March 6th, 2018, 11:27 pm

This came out of ikpx (my search program, which is essentially a multithreaded hybrid of LLS and gfind) when I fed one of Tom Rokicki's long partials into it:

x = 31, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$4bo2bo$4bo3bo$6b3o$2b2o6b4o$2bob2o4b4o$bo4bo6b3o$2b4o4b2o3bo$o9b
2o$bo3bo$6b3o2b2o2bo$2b2o7bo4bo$13bob2o$10b2o6bo$11b2ob3obo$10b2o3bo2b
o$10bobo2b2o$10bo2bobobo$10b3o6bo$11bobobo3bo$14b2obobo$11bo6b3o2$11bo
9bo$11bo3bo6bo$12bo5b5o$12b3o$16b2o$13b3o2bo$11bob3obo$10bo3bo2bo$11bo
4b2ob3o$13b4obo4b2o$13bob4o4b2o$19bo$20bo2b2o$20b2o$21b5o$25b2o$19b3o
6bo$20bobo3bobo$19bo3bo3bo$19bo3b2o$18bo6bob3o$19b2o3bo3b2o$20b4o2bo2b
o$22b2o3bo$21bo$21b2obo$20bo$19b5o$19bo4bo$18b3ob3o$18bob5o$18bo$20bo$
16bo4b4o$20b4ob2o$17b3o4bo$24bobo$28bo$24bo2b2o$25b3o$22b2o$21b3o5bo$
24b2o2bobo$21bo2b3obobo$22b2obo2bo$24bobo2b2o$26b2o$22b3o4bo$22b3o4bo$
23b2o3b3o$24b2ob2o$25b2o$25bo2$24b2o$26bo!


Strictly speaking, 62% of this was discovered by Tom's earlier (abandoned) search, and the other 38% by my latest ikpx search.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby Kazyan » March 6th, 2018, 11:30 pm

It happened. It finally happened. Everyone give calcyman and Tom thunderous applause.

EDIT: To say something productive, it does have a strong back spark, but a distaff rake seems unlikely, since this ship is at its speed limit.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 6th, 2018, 11:32 pm

Okay, we have the POTY 2018. :o

I know it's only March, but I'm pretty sure...

EDIT:
Kazyan wrote:To say something productive, it does have a strong back spark, but a distaff rake seems unlikely, since this ship is at its speed limit.


Yeah, it's not possible for something to move faster at this slope. But, it might be possible if that spark had both glider-to-WSS and WSS-to-glider reactions, or a WSS-reflecting reaction (possibly using a stationary intermediate stage).
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby M. I. Wright » March 6th, 2018, 11:40 pm

Oh goodness, this is incredible. Many congratulations!
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby danny » March 6th, 2018, 11:49 pm

Woohoo! This one's been bothering me for a bit and I'm glad to see it finally unveil itself

I like that it doesn't have the same frontend as the 'almost-knightship.' I guess this would be a good time to ask, how is it that pretty much every speed in an active-enough rule (e.g. B3/S23) has a frontend? It would seem that it would be harder to find said frontends, but it doesn't take long for search programs produce a partial. I hope you understand what I'm asking, thanks.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby gmc_nxtman » March 6th, 2018, 11:50 pm

Congratulations!
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby FlameandFury » March 6th, 2018, 11:52 pm

:o

I don't know when people started seriously searching for knightships, but this is the first elementary spaceship to have a new slope in 48 years. As well, it's been 14 years since the almost-knightship was discovered. Congrats!
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 6th, 2018, 11:57 pm

Hmm.. what should this ship be named? My first idea would be something like "phantom", since the shape (well, of Rokicki's original partials slightly more than the full ship, but anyway) reminds me a bit of classic bedsheet-ghosts, and the ship was elusive for a long time.

EDIT: The ship and partials also somewhat resemble a seahorse, so that would also be a good option.

FlameandFury wrote::I don't know when people started seriously searching for knightships, but this is the first elementary spaceship to have a new speed in 48 years.


I assume you meant slope, since there are many other spaceships at speeds other than the glider and WSSes that are smaller than this one (e.g. loafer, dart).
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby Bullet51 » March 7th, 2018, 12:04 am

77topaz wrote:Okay, we have the POTY 2018.

I know it's only March, but I'm pretty sure...


Wow. Surely POTY 2018. Congratulations!

Someone please Coppersearch the ship. There are gonna be (2,1)c/6 puffers.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby dvgrn » March 7th, 2018, 12:06 am

calcyman wrote:This came out of ikpx (my search program, which is essentially a multithreaded hybrid of LLS and gfind) when I fed one of Tom Rokicki's long partials into it...

It was terribly tempting to edit the original post and change one cell toward the end, so that the knightship didn't quite work.

Unfortunately April Fool's Day is still almost a month away... well. With great power comes great responsibility. With infinitesimal power comes a reasonably small amount of responsibility. I'll just add my congratulations, and say "welcome" to 282P6H2V1, until another name appears!

(Am trying to find some kind of pun, maybe on "C-horse" with the chess-knight connection. But "(2,1)c/6horse" just isn't very close.)

EDIT: I believe we're up to two dozen spaceship velocities now, counting the five infinite families only once each. Some of the infinite families -- Gemini, half-baked knightships, Demonoid, Caterloopillar, Orthogonoid -- may really be multiple infinite families, but it's too hard to count them if you start thinking like that.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 7th, 2018, 12:10 am

dvgrn wrote:(Am trying to find some kind of pun, maybe on "C-horse" with the chess-knight connection. But "(2,1)c/6horse" just isn't very close.)


Actually, some of the partials did look seahorse-like (and the full ship still slightly does), so "seahorse" could be a good name! :)

EDIT: For those who are curious, the ship's apgcode is xq6_yyocxukcy6gocs20h0a38bac2qq73uszyjo4w8y0e4mo0vu0o606s6444u08clav0h03g440qq1333333x11zy9ecec2ik032i210sw3f0hy011w70401011033547442zy0emj896he1e1kif6q2gc50ew9qb30dzgo403gg066m32w11z34407q441n6zy311. :o
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby rokicki » March 7th, 2018, 12:20 am

Adam,

Now that you have your knightship, should we call you "Sir Adam"?

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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 7th, 2018, 12:23 am

rokicki wrote:Adam,

Now that you have your knightship, should we call you "Sir Adam"?

-tom


Then we should have Sir Tom as well! Your partials were a major step in the finding of this ship! :D

But then, what about Sir Andrew and Sir Dave who found the knight-Gemini?
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby calcyman » March 7th, 2018, 12:27 am

77topaz wrote:Then we should have Sir Tom as well! Your partials were a major step in the finding of this ship! :D


Absolutely! Moreover, Tom modified iglucose to be compatible with FIFOs, which was necessary for ikpx to work at all.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby fluffykitty » March 7th, 2018, 12:31 am

Yay
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby velcrorex » March 7th, 2018, 12:35 am

First bit matches a partial I posted a while ago.
http://www.conwaylife.com/forums/viewto ... hip#p42467

Can I claim 10%?

Just kidding. Congrats!

So who's going to find the first p7 kntghtship?
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 7th, 2018, 12:37 am

velcrorex wrote:First bit matches a partial I posted a while ago.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2031&p=42467&hilit=knightship#p42467

Can I claim 10%?


Well, we are crediting Rokicki for his partials, so... :P

velcrorex wrote:Just kidding. Congrats!

So who's going to find the first p7 kntghtship?


Are there any good partials at that speed?
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 7th, 2018, 12:40 am

PHPBB12345 wrote:Why not add to LifeWiki? (http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Category ... th_slope_2)


Well, calcyman/we haven't decided on a name yet. Then again, it could first be added under the technical name 282P6H2V1, which I think was done for some other recently-discovered spaceships.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby fluffykitty » March 7th, 2018, 12:41 am

I nominate elementary knightship.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby 77topaz » March 7th, 2018, 12:42 am

fluffykitty wrote:I nominate elementary knightship.


I don't think that's a good name, because what if another elementary knightship is found? Then that name would become ambiguous. I think a more descriptive name like "phantom" or "seahorse" or whatever would be better.

EDIT: I started a LifeWiki page for this spaceship under the placeholder name 282P6H2V1.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby PHPBB12345 » March 7th, 2018, 12:51 am

Can using wave to making extensible knightship?
x = 212, y = 210, rule = B3/S23
141bo$139bo2bo$137b2obo3bo$137bo2bo3bo$133b3o2bobo$133bo4bobobo$136bo
2bo3bo$134bobo6bo$135b2o6bo2$137b2ob2o4bob4o11bo$137b2ob2ob2ob3o2b2obo
b2o4bobo$137b2o4bo3bobobo6b2o$137b3o5bo4bobo6bob2o2b2o$139bo7bo5bo5bob
3obo$139b2o2bobob4ob2o3bo3b2o2b2o$144b2obobo10bo3b3o22bo$150bo2bo6bob
3obo24bo$146b3o5bo3bo2bo3b2o9bo8b3o3bo$151b4o3bo5bo2bo4bob2obo5b3o5bo$
154bo3bo5bo3b2o2b2o3b2o3b2ob2obobo$156bobo5bo4b2obo5bob2obo2bo2b2o6bob
o$157b2o11bo2bo4b2obobob2o2b2o5b2o2bo2b2o$165b2obobo3b2o2b2o3bob2o2b2o
5b2o2bo2b3o$165b2obobo4bobo3bo2b3o2bob2obo3b2obob4o3bo$170b2o4bo13bo4b
o2b3o5b3obo$171bobo4bo11bobo2bo3bob2o4bo3bo$174bobo2bo14b2o6bo3bo$172b
2o2b2o15b2o3b3o4b2o$176b3o18bo3bob3o$198b2obo3bo8$194b2o$193b2o$193bob
o$194bo2$191b2o$190b2o$190bobo$191bo2$188b2o$187b2o$187bobo$188bo2$
185b2o$184b2o$184bobo$185bo2$182b2o$181b2o$181bobo$182bo2$179b2o$178b
2o$178bobo$179bo2$176b2o$175b2o$175bobo$176bo2$173b2o$172b2o$172bobo$
173bo2$170b2o$169b2o$169bobo$170bo2$167b2o$166b2o$166bobo$167bo2$164b
2o$163b2o$163bobo$164bo2$161b2o$160b2o$160bobo$161bo2$158b2o$157b2o$
157bobo$158bo2$155b2o$154b2o$154bobo$155bo2$152b2o$151b2o$151bobo$152b
o2$149b2o$148b2o$148bobo$149bo2$146b2o$145b2o$145bobo$146bo2$143b2o$
142b2o$142bobo$143bo2$140b2o$139b2o$139bobo$140bo2$137b2o$136b2o$136bo
bo$137bo2$134b2o$133b2o$133bobo$134bo2$131b2o$130b2o$130bobo$131bo2$
128b2o$127b2o$127bobo$128bo2$125b2o$124b2o$124bobo$125bo2$122b2o$121b
2o$121bobo$122bo2$119b2o$118b2o$118bobo$119bo2$116b2o$115b2o$115bobo$
116bo2$113b2o$112b2o$112bobo$113bo2$110b2o$8bo100b2o$6bo2bo99bobo$4b2o
bo3bo98bo$4bo2bo3bo$3o2bobo99b2o$o4bobobo96b2o$3bo2bo3bo95bobo$bobo6bo
96bo$2b2o6bo$104b2o$4b2ob2o4bob4o11bo72b2o$4b2ob2ob2ob3o2b2obob2o4bobo
71bobo$4b2o4bo3bobobo6b2o77bo$4b3o5bo4bobo6bob2o2b2o$6bo7bo5bo5bob3obo
68b2o$6b2o2bobob4ob2o3bo3b2o2b2o66b2o$11b2obobo10bo3b3o22bo43bobo$17bo
2bo6bob3obo24bo42bo$13b3o5bo3bo2bo3b2o9bo8b3o3bo$18b4o3bo5bo2bo4bob2ob
o5b3o5bo39b2o$21bo3bo5bo3b2o2b2o3b2o3b2ob2obobo39b2o$23bobo5bo4b2obo5b
ob2obo2bo2b2o6bobo30bobo$24b2o11bo2bo4b2obobob2o2b2o5b2o2bo2b2o26bo$
32b2obobo3b2o2b2o3bob2o2b2o5b2o2bo2b3o$32b2obobo4bobo3bo2b3o2bob2obo3b
2obob4o3bo$37b2o4bo13bo4bo2b3o5b3obo$38bobo4bo11bobo2bo3bob2o4bo3bo$
41bobo2bo14b2o6bo3bo$39b2o2b2o15b2o3b3o4b2o$43b3o18bo3bob3o$65b2obo3bo
!
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby christoph r. » March 7th, 2018, 1:13 am

Some sparkles make it robust against some impact.

x = 41, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b3o$2b2o2b2o$3bob3o$2b3ob3o2b2o$bo6bobob2o$2o4b5o$2o3b3o2bo3b2o$
2o3b2o2b2o$3o2bo3b2o2bo$2bobobobobob2o$8b2o2b2o$7bo9bo$12b2obo2bo$11b
2o4bo$10bobobo2b2o$9b2obo4bo$15bo2bo$12b2obob2o$11bobo2b2o$10b2o3bo3bo
$10b2ob6o$12b5obo$18bob2o$12bo5bob2o$12bo6b3o$12bo8b3o$16b2o3bo$11bo3b
2o$11b3ob2obo$11bo2b3o2bo$17bo2bo$12bobo3bo3b2o$12bobo7bobo$12bobo4b2o
bo$21bo2$20bo2b2o$20b2obo2bo$19bo5bobo$20b3o5bo2$18b3obobo3bo$17b2o6bo
$17b2ob3o3b2obo$19bo2bo3b2obo$19b2obo$20b2o$19bo2bo$20b3o$19bo3bo$21bo
$18b2ob2o2bo$17bobo5bo$17bo5bo$18b7o$18bo6bo$18b4ob3o$18b2o6bo$20b5ob
2o$20b2obo3bo$24bob2o$23b3ob3o$22b2o4bo$21bob4obo$20b2o3b2ob2o$23bo2bo
bo$24bobob2o$24bobo$24bob2o10b2o$24bo2bo10bobo$23bo2b2o10bo$23bo2bobo$
24bo3bo$29bo$28bo$24b4o$24bo$25bo!
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby Hooloovoo » March 7th, 2018, 3:30 am

congrats!

There's a glider to pi
x = 36, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b3o$2b2o2b2o$3bob3o$2b3ob3o2b2o$bo6bobob2o$2o4b5o$2o3b3o2bo3b2o$
2o3b2o2b2o$3o2bo3b2o2bo$2bobobobobob2o$8b2o2b2o$7bo9bo$12b2obo2bo$11b
2o4bo$10bobobo2b2o$9b2obo4bo$15bo2bo$12b2obob2o$11bobo2b2o$10b2o3bo3bo
$10b2ob6o$12b5obo$18bob2o$12bo5bob2o$12bo6b3o$12bo8b3o$16b2o3bo$11bo3b
2o$11b3ob2obo$11bo2b3o2bo$17bo2bo$12bobo3bo3b2o$12bobo7bobo$12bobo4b2o
bo$21bo2$20bo2b2o$20b2obo2bo$19bo5bobo$20b3o5bo2$18b3obobo3bo$17b2o6bo
$17b2ob3o3b2obo$19bo2bo3b2obo$19b2obo$20b2o$19bo2bo$20b3o$19bo3bo$21bo
$18b2ob2o2bo$17bobo5bo$17bo5bo$18b7o$18bo6bo$18b4ob3o$18b2o6bo$20b5ob
2o$20b2obo3bo$24bob2o$23b3ob3o$22b2o4bo4bobo$21bob4obo4b2o$20b2o3b2ob
2o4bo$23bo2bobo$24bobob2o$24bobo$24bob2o$24bo2bo$23bo2b2o$23bo2bobo$
24bo3bo$29bo$28bo$24b4o$24bo$25bo!

and a hwss to herschel
x = 42, y = 79, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3b3o$2b2o2b2o$3bob3o$2b3ob3o2b2o$bo6bobob2o$2o4b5o$2o3b3o2bo3b2o$
2o3b2o2b2o$3o2bo3b2o2bo$2bobobobobob2o$8b2o2b2o$7bo9bo$12b2obo2bo$11b
2o4bo$10bobobo2b2o$9b2obo4bo$15bo2bo$12b2obob2o$11bobo2b2o$10b2o3bo3bo
$10b2ob6o$12b5obo$18bob2o$12bo5bob2o$12bo6b3o$12bo8b3o$16b2o3bo$11bo3b
2o$11b3ob2obo$11bo2b3o2bo$17bo2bo$12bobo3bo3b2o$12bobo7bobo$12bobo4b2o
bo$21bo2$20bo2b2o$20b2obo2bo$19bo5bobo$20b3o5bo2$18b3obobo3bo$17b2o6bo
$17b2ob3o3b2obo$19bo2bo3b2obo$19b2obo$20b2o$19bo2bo$20b3o$19bo3bo$21bo
$18b2ob2o2bo$17bobo5bo$17bo5bo$18b7o$18bo6bo$18b4ob3o$18b2o6bo$20b5ob
2o$20b2obo3bo$24bob2o$23b3ob3o$22b2o4bo8b4o$21bob4obo7b6o$20b2o3b2ob2o
5b2ob4o$23bo2bobo7b2o$24bobob2o$24bobo$24bob2o$24bo2bo$23bo2b2o$23bo2b
obo$24bo3bo$29bo$28bo$24b4o$24bo$25bo!

There are a couple more eaters, and some collisions which make a tub and a boat but they don't seem super interesting. This was just a cursory glance at gencols output, so I very well could have missed something.
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Re: Elementary knightship

Postby Naszvadi » March 7th, 2018, 4:13 am

Gratula! POTY 2018.
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