Counterfeit Gliders

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Bullet51 » April 9th, 2017, 8:24 pm

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e35678_S2678
o$obo$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by 83bismuth38 » April 15th, 2017, 7:21 pm

lol, glider and r-pentomino are became one:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-i45-a8/S3-ai4-a5-e
obo$2o$bo!
looking to support hive five (n+18) and charity's oboo reaction (2n+18)

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x = 28, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
19bo$3bo15bo4b2o$2bobo14bo4bobo$2bobo20b2o$3bo11b3o2$25b3o$b2o22b3o$o
2bo$b2o12b2o$10b2o2bobo$bo8b2o2b2o$obo7b2o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Saka » April 16th, 2017, 8:12 am

83bismuth38 wrote:lol, glider and r-pentomino are became one:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-i45-a8/S3-ai4-a5-e
obo$2o$bo!
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Saka wrote:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-nqr4acew5y6/S1e2-a34wz
3o$o$bo!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by toroidalet » August 12th, 2017, 11:04 am

double counterfeit gliders:

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x = 8, y = 3, rule = B34i/S1c2-ck3
bo5bo$o4b2o$3o3b2o!
counterfeit toad in the same rule:

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x = 4, y = 4, rule = B34i/S1c2-ck3
bo$o2bo$o2bo$2bo!
(I really want someone to apgsearch this rule to see how it handles this)
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by praosylen » August 12th, 2017, 11:55 am

toroidalet wrote:(I really want someone to apgsearch this rule to see how it handles this)
It should catch the toad and miss both gliders. Please no one search until I've fixed this.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by toroidalet » August 12th, 2017, 12:56 pm

A for awesome wrote:It should catch the toad and miss both gliders. Please no one search until I've fixed this.
I tried apgsearching without uploading to Catagolue in V0.54+0.3i and it didn't give any fatal errors, giving an xq4_153 and an xq4_163. V0.54+0.2i also gave an xq4_153 and xq4_163. I think it's safe to run (and really fast).
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Saka » August 16th, 2017, 4:37 am

bump

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-an3ijny4aejkwyz5-acjr6cik7e8/S01c2eik3nqy4aijqryz5aijy6ci78
bo$o$3o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Goldtiger997 » August 17th, 2017, 9:18 am

I've been using wildmyron's recently published script to find more counterfeit gliders. So far I've found 30, and most of them have not already been posted on this thread. (I've also been using getallrules.py to optimise the rules, which is something I've noticed that the 5s project hasn't done.)

Here is what is probably the highlight of the current collection, a 3c/266d:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ekn3aikn4eiqry5q6ac7e/S1c2ek3-jky4kw5acy6c7e
3o$o$bo!
And here is the current full collection:
counterfeit gliders.zip
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Saka » August 17th, 2017, 9:34 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:I've been using wildmyron's recently published script to find more counterfeit gliders.
Same! I didnt get to looking for any today, I focused on making cool apgcodes, but the system keeps changing them

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by drc » August 17th, 2017, 10:30 am

Goldtiger997 wrote:which is something I've noticed that the 5s project hasn't done.
I was going to say that all gliders in the 5s project should have their rulestring shortened as much as possible, but I decided to leave them in whatever rule is most interesting/whatever rule they were found in.

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Saka » August 18th, 2017, 3:56 am

c/6d

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2cek3ikr4-aeqtw5-eijk6-ck8/S02ace3ar4knw5n6e7e
obo$2o$bo!
2c/6o

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2eik3-cjnq4eijqwy5-ijn6cei8/S01c2-c3ijnqr4inqtwyz5ajnq6-k78
bo$2bo$3o!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3er4cejyz5jq6ain7/S01c2-ek3-eqy4-cekr5ekny6cek7c8
2bo$2o$b2o!
c/12d

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-an3-knq4-cqrty5-kry6-e78/S01c2-k3-aci4-kqw5ijkry6ikn78
bo$o$3o!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by muzik » August 20th, 2017, 5:24 pm

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = 23/3/4
3.C$3.ACA$2.B3A$BCA.A$ACA$B2A$.A!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by toroidalet » August 20th, 2017, 7:08 pm

muzik wrote:

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ship
I don't think that counts.
A variation of my original counterfeit LWSS rule:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B2i34a/S23-ijn4a
bo2bo$o$o3bo$4o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Rhombic » August 21st, 2017, 5:12 pm

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3aj4an/S1c2ace3aj4ak
obo$b2o$bo!

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2ce3ijnq/S1c2e
bo$2bo$3o!
Last edited by Rhombic on August 24th, 2017, 1:19 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 21st, 2017, 5:13 pm

muzik wrote:

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = 23/3/4
3.C$3.ACA$2.B3A$BCA.A$ACA$B2A$.A!
Counterfeit crab thingamajig?

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x = 5, y = 9, rule = B3-jqr/S01c2-in3
3bo$4bo$o2bo$2o2$2o$o2bo$4bo$3bo!

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x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i
4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o$bo!

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by praosylen » August 23rd, 2017, 9:48 pm

A 3ITVN counterfeit glider:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = 000200-10102-1010-222-11-1
.A$A$3B!
Sadly, the rule is explosive.
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Rhombic » August 24th, 2017, 1:19 pm

Counterfeit block on table:

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2k3ai4iwz/S01e2aen3aer
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B2e3-kqry4knr/S1c2ae3ajnr
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!

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x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3-cknr4ijn6ik/S1c2-c3a4aqz5i6c
o2bo$4o2$2b2o$2b2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Rhombic » October 13th, 2017, 9:36 am

B2c3aijn4r5q/S2ace3nr (1,1)c/8
B2ck3aceijkn4jk5cj7c/S2ae3inr4akqrz5jn (1,1)c/32
B2k3aijn/S2ae3jnr4ak (2,0)c/8
B2ck3aijnr5c/S02e3jnr (1,1)c/8

a few more that preserve both distinct generations of the glider
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by praosylen » November 21st, 2017, 7:07 pm

One in CGoL:

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x = 53, y = 49, rule = B3/S23
13$16bobo$16bo2bo$19b2o$17bo3bo$18bob3o$24b2o$18b5o3bo$23bo3b
o$20b2o5bo$18b4o2bo2bo$18bo5bobo3bo$30b4o$25b3o3b3o$25b3o3bo3b
o$24bob2o5b3o$31bo4bobo$24bo2bo4b8o$27b2o10b2o$26bobo5b2o4b2o$
31bo2bo4b2o$29bobobo3bo$30bo7b5o$42b2o$40b2o2bo$40bob3o$45bo$
44b3o$42bo2b3o$46bo$42b4o$45bo$42b2o$40b4o$40bo!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 15th, 2017, 1:00 am

From the "crystallographic defect rule":

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2c3aijn4k/S2-k34cnqrt
o$b2o$2o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » December 15th, 2017, 12:05 pm

Request a Rule to Be "Tamed":
drc wrote: Found a small c/6 diagonal in a related (stable!) rule:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2e3-ajqr4a/S23
b2o$obo$2bo!
[Edited for phase]

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by Majestas32 » December 29th, 2017, 12:46 am

c/10 diagonal

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B3-r4aiw5cny/S123c4w6c
3o$o$bo!
Searching:
b2-a5k6n7cs12-i3ij4k5j8
b2-a3c7cs12-i

Currently looking for help searching these rules.

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by LaundryPizza03 » January 3rd, 2018, 11:39 pm

From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!

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x = 4, y = 3, rule = B3-q4z5y/S234k5j
2b2o$b2o$2o!
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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by dani » January 3rd, 2018, 11:51 pm

LaundryPizza03 wrote:From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!
This glider was known here. I think it may have been posted here too

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Re: Counterfeit Gliders

Post by BlinkerSpawn » January 4th, 2018, 8:27 pm

danny wrote:
LaundryPizza03 wrote:From a rule apgsearched by danny, a 4c/18 diagonal:

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x = 3, y = 3, rule = B2-ac3i4ce/S123ik4e
bo$2bo$3o!
This glider was known here. I think it may have been posted here too
I haven't seen it here, and it's just being cross-posted here for recordkeeping purposes.
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