A for awesome wrote:wildmyron wrote:14bit SL ("?14-mango with bend tail" in Catagolue) in 3G + 3T

Not sure if this p8 with min population of 20 is known:

Nice! How did you find them?

M. I. Wright wrote:The p8 is neat, was it found with a search program?

Some time ago I was working on a version of apgsearch for non-totalistic rules. It's been unused for a while but I thought I should dust it off for this rule. In particular, the addition of searching in symmetrical soups found the p8 as well as a few other oscillators with D4 symmetry.

There are still quite a few issues with searching non-life rules that I don't know how to deal with. This has deterred me from posting a version of the search tool publicly, but I would like to work through some of these and get a version out there. I hope to post more details on the

Hacking apgsearch thread soon [No guarantees]. In the meantime, some more results posted below.

M. I. Wright wrote:wildmyron wrote:If a link to the spaceship stamp collection is added to the first post I'll try to keep it up to date

Will do.

Thanks for the link. I updated the collection with the skewed variant of the 2c/4 and updated it again to switch the rule back to tlife. I also added a separate collection for diagonal ships - currently c/4 only.

Here are some results from soup search. I've also adapted a version of rgsearch to this rule and some of those results are included as well.

Natural objects from soup: All three small gliders from one soup

`x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3_S2-i34q`

2b2ob4ob2o3bo$bo2b12o$3b6o5bo$2o2b5ob2ob3o$bobob2ob2obob2o$4o3b2obob2o

$6obobobo3bo$2obo3b2o2b2o2bo$b2o3bobob5o$obo2b2o2bo2b2o$b2o2b2obob3o2b

o$o3bo4bo2bobo$5b3ob2o4bo$3o2bob3o3bo$bo3bo3b2ob2obo$bobobob7obo!

One of the p160 dual t-ship guns (not surprising that they appear considering how common the p160 oscillator is)

`x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3_S2-i34q`

bo2b2ob2o2b2ob2o$ob2ob2ob2o$3ob2ob6o$2b3o5bo2bobo$8b6o$4bo2bobo3b2o$bo

3b3o2b3o$4o2bo5b2o$bo3bobo2b4obo$bob4obobo2b3o$3ob3o2b2ob2obo$2b3o3bo

2bo2bo$2bo5bo3bo2bo$b3ob2o2bobo3bo$bob3o2bo2b2o2bo$o2bo2bobo4b3o!

Shillelagh (appears in ~1 in 10,000 soups):

`x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3_S2-i34q`

4o2bo2bo3bobo$o3bo3bo2b3obo$o3b2ob2obo4bo$2obob3obobo3bo$b2ob2obo4b2ob

o$2obobobob4ob2o$ob2obobobo3bobo$o2bo7b2o2bo$2ob2o3bobobobo$2bob8ob2o$

3o4b2ob2o3bo$2o5b2obo3bo$6o2bo2b2o$2obobobobo3b2o$ob5obob4obo$b2o2b3o

2bobo2bo!

A new(?) c/5 - two interacting t-ships:

`x = 16, y = 16, rule = tlife`

2bo4b2o2b2o$b4ob5ob2o$obo3bob2o3b3o$b2o2bob2o3b4o$ob2ob2o2b2obob2o$2b

4ob2o3b2o$2o2b4o2b3obo$3b3ob3o4b2o$bob2ob4o4b2o$2b2obo3bob5o$2bo2b2o4b

ob2o$bob2ob2ob4ob2o$2bobo3bo5bo$o3b4obob2obo$2b2ob4ob3o$obo2bob3o4bo!

The interaction is extensible. I guess you could say the t-ship is a tagalong for itself.

Glider syntheses:4G - alternative eater synth, cis-mirrored R-loaf, twit, interacting t-ships

5G - alternative synth for 18-bit SL, p6 oscillator, very long boat, canoe, very^3 long ship

6G - shillelagh

7G - half-bakery, 11-bit SL

8G - p6 c/3 ship, block with two tails, 15-bent-paperclip, another 18-bit SL

12G - carrier siamese carrier

`x = 250, y = 293, rule = tlife`

o2bo90b3o$o2bo17b2o3b2o61bo4bo$o2bo16bobo3bobo60b2o4bo$4o18bo3bo61bobo

$3bo$3bo52b2o3bo$3bo20b2o29bobo2b2o$23bobo31bo2bobo$25bo104bo$130b2o$

63bo41b3o2b2o18bo$31b2o28b2o44bo2b2o23bo$31bobo28b2o42bo5b2o21b2o$31bo

80b2o20bobo$141b2o$65b3o73bobo$65bo29b2o44bo$66bo27bobo$96bo24$68bo$

67bo$56bo10b3o$54bobo$55b2o3$141bo$4o23bo3b2o28bo40b2o3b3o30bobo33bo$o

27bo2bobo28bo2bo36b2o3bo32bo2bo32bobo$o25b3o3bo27b3o2bobo40bo32bobo32b

2o$4o61b2o75bo$3bo93bo$3bo93b2o14b3o27b2o31b2o$4o92bobo14bo12b3o13bobo

25b3o2bo2bo$114bo13bo15bo27bo2bobo$31b2o94bo43bo4bo$32b2o152b2o$31bo

154bobo$186bo$40b2o$40bobo90b2o$40bo91bobo$134bo17$68bo$28b3o36bo$30bo

36b3o$29bo5$56bo$55bo$55b3o4$51bo$50bo$50b3o2$4o44b3o$o49bo$o48bo$4o$o

2bo$o2bo$4o2$40b3o$42bo$41bo18$18b3o$20bo$19bo8$47bobo$47b2o$48bo4$50b

o$50bobo$50b2o4$4o29bo4bo55bo$o2bo28bobo2bo56bobo$3bo27bo2bo2b3o50bo3b

2o$2b2o27bobo57bo$2b2o28bo56b3o$3bo82bo$3bo82b2o$86bo2$98bo$91b2o4b2o$

82bo7b2o5bobo$82b2o8bo$81bobo2$51bo$50b2o$50bobo7$52bo$51b2o$51bobo6$

118bo$118bobo$118b2o5$248bo$247bo$247b3o8$128bo43b2o52bo$30bo96bo44b2o

50b2o$31b2o94b3o95b2o$30b2o70bo$70bobo28bo19bo47bo$71b2o28b3o16bobo46b

obo$71bo47bo2bo46b2o$120b2o108bo$95bo3bo109bo19bo$44bo51bobo28b2o78bob

o19b3o$42bobo49b3ob3o25bobo79b2o$4o39b2o81b2o$o2bo160bo$o2bo158b2o$b2o

160b2o58b2o$o2bo118b2ob2o90b3o2b2o$o2bo41bo76b2obo93bo4bo$4o42b2o77bo

15bobo74bo$45b2o75b3o17b2o41b2o4bo$122bo19bo41bobo3bo$53bo3bo128bo3b3o

$54bobo115bo71b2o$52b3ob3o85bobo10bobo11bobo68b3obo$145b2o10b2o12bo2bo

56bobo7bo4bo$145bo12bo11b2ob2o12b2o19bo22b2o8bo2b2o$59b3ob3o105bobo13b

2o19b2o22bo7b2obo$61bobo90b2o14bo2bo33bobo30bo2bo$60bo3bo80b3o6bobo14b

2o68b2o$85b2o20b3o37bo6bo76b2o$86b2o19bo38bo84b2o$85bo22bo17$78b2o$78b

2o3$81bo$81bobo$81b2o$37bobo$38b2o$38bo5$48bo15bo$49bo13bo$47b3o13b3o

4$65b2o$64bobo$66bo2b3o$69bo$o2b4o63bo$o5bo$o5bo$o2b4o$o2bo$o2bo58b3o$

o2b4o46b2o7bo$54b2o7bo$53bo5$30b3o52bo$32bo51b2o$31bo52bobo5$94b3o$94b

o$95bo!