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hobbyprogrammer77 wrote:Can anybody stabilise this true-period 34 agar?
x = 86, y = 66, rule = B3/S232b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o7$2b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o$3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o! No, here is RLE: x = 5, y = 2, rule = B3/S23:T9,82b3o$3o!
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Not sure if this is useful or new, but it is interesting. g+pre-honeyfarm -> mwss + g + LOM
x = 7, y = 9, rule = B3/S234b2o$3bo2bo$3bobo$3b3o3$2bo$obo$b2o!
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

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Scorbie wrote:Not sure if this is useful or new, but it is interesting. g+pre-honeyfarm -> mwss + g + LOM

This reaction was found by Dietrich Leithner, probably sometime in the 90's. See Life\Guns\gun-p165mwss.rle in the Golly pattern collection.
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Sokwe wrote:
Scorbie wrote:Not sure if this is useful or new, but it is interesting. g+pre-honeyfarm -> mwss + g + LOM
This reaction was found by Dietrich Leithner, probably sometime in the 90's. See Life\Guns\gun-p165mwss.rle in the Golly pattern collection.
ooh, I see! Why didn't I spot that when I looked at that gun before!
Best wishes to you, Scorbie

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This may be a re-discovery. A Herschelreflects a glider.
x = 11, y = 6, rule = B3/S23b3o$2bo$3o$9b2o$8b2o$10bo! Best wishes to you, Scorbie Scorbie Posts: 1380 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Nine-cell methuselah that looks quite a bit like a rotating puffer: x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S233bo$2bobo$bo3bo$o4bo$5b2o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1786 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Just for fun; a nontrivial interaction with a common p64 wick and a beacon. x = 312, y = 312, rule = 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EDIT: another nontrivial interaction;
x = 120, y = 120, rule = B3/S23:T120,12022b2o14b3o10b2o$22b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$37bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$37b2o10b3o14b2o$7b2o89b2o14b3o$8bo48b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo$5bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o48bo$5b3o14b2o89b2o$54b2o14b3o10b2o$13b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$13b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$69b2o10b3o14b2o$10b2o14b3o10b2o$10b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$25bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$25b2o10b3o14b2o$86b2o14b3o10b2o$45b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$10b2o33b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo$10b2o89b2o10b3o$42b2o14b3o10b2o$b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$57b2o10b3o14b2o$14b3o10b2o89b2o$13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o33b2o$13bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$13b2o10b3o14b2o$74b2o14b3o10b2o$33b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$33b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$89b2o10b3o14b2o$30b2o14b3o10b2o$30b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$45bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$45b2o10b3o14b2o$2b3o10b2o89b2o$bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o33b2o$bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$b2o10b3o14b2o$62b2o14b3o10b2o$21b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$21b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$77b2o10b3o14b2o$18b2o14b3o10b2o$18b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$33bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$33b2o10b3o14b2o$3b2o89b2o14b3o$4bo48b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo$bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o48bo$b3o14b2o89b2o$50b2o14b3o10b2o$9b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$9b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$65b2o10b3o14b2o$6b2o14b3o10b2o$6b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$21bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$21b2o10b3o14b2o$82b2o14b3o10b2o$41b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$6b2o33b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo$6b2o89b2o10b3o$38b2o14b3o10b2o$3b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o$3b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o$53b2o10b3o14b2o$10b3o10b2o89b2o$9bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o33b2o$9bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$9b2o10b3o14b2o$70b2o14b3o10b2o$29b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$29b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$85b2o10b3o14b2o$26b2o14b3o10b2o$26b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$41bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$41b2o10b3o14b2o$o10b2o89b2o14b2o$o11bo48b2o4b2o33b2o13bo$9bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o48bo$9b3o14b2o89b2o$58b2o14b3o10b2o$17b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$17b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$73b2o10b3o14b2o$14b2o14b3o10b2o$14b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$29bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$29b2o10b3o14b2o$o89b2o14b3o10bo$o48b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo$o13b2o33b2o4b2o48bo11bo$14b2o89b2o10b3o$46b2o14b3o10b2o$5b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$5b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$61b2o10b3o14b2o$2b2o14b3o10b2o$2b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o$17bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$17b2o10b3o14b2o$78b2o14b3o10b2o$37b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$2b2o33b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo$2b2o89b2o10b3o$34b2o14b3o10b2o$o33b2o13bo2bo11bo48b2o4bo$o48bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4bo$49b2o10b3o14b2o$6b3o10b2o89b2o$5bo2bo11bo48b2o4b2o33b2o$5bo11bo2bo13b2o33b2o4b2o$5b2o10b3o14b2o$66b2o14b3o10b2o$25b2o4b2o33b2o13bo2bo11bo$25b2o4b2o48bo11bo2bo13b2o$81b2o10b3o14b2o! Best wishes to you, Scorbie Scorbie Posts: 1380 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Weird way to "extend" a boat into a long boat: x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S235b2o$5bobo$2o4bo$obo$bo2b3o$4bobo$4bo3b2o$6b5o$6bo3b2o$8bobo$9bo! Maybe this will someday be useful in some unusual catalyst (long boats can be converted into boats easily)... Sphenocorona Posts: 480 Joined: April 9th, 2013, 11:03 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries extrementhusiast？ unname66609 Posts: 87 Joined: December 20th, 2014, 8:30 am ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries p8: x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S2315bo$14bobo$14b3o2$15b2o$15bo$13bobo$13bobo$13b2o$10b2o7bo$9bo2bo5bobo$10bobo4bo2bo$11bo6b2o$b2obo16b3o$obob4o13bo5b2o$b2o5bo13b4obobo$6b3o16bob2o$10b2o6bo$9bo2bo4bobo$9bobo5bo2bo$10bo7b2o$15b2o$14bobo$14bobo$14bo$13b2o2$13b3o$13bobo$14bo!

Also, here's a p18 I found while messing around with honey farms:

x = 30, y = 18, rule = B3/S2326bo$3bo20b3o$3b3o17bo$6bo16b2o$5b2o21b2o$28bo$8b2o16bobo$8bo17b2o$20b3o$7b3o$2b2o17bo$bobo16b2o$bo$2o21b2o$5b2o16bo$6bo17b3o$3b3o20bo$3bo! Nico Brown glider_rider Posts: 88 Joined: February 20th, 2013, 5:41 pm Location: CA ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Wow, those are actually pretty cool! How did you find the p8? Best wishes to you, Scorbie Scorbie Posts: 1380 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries I was running JLS to find a p8 which flipped over every four steps, paused it halfway through, and realized that part of the pattern could interact with an eater 3 the same way as it did with the pattern JLS was using. This pattern just loops the loaves together. Here's a p8 using eater 3's to stabilize the ends. x = 22, y = 124, rule = B3/S2312bo$11bobo$12bo2$10b5o$10bo4bo$13bo2bo$13b2obo2bo$10bo5bobobo$10b2o4bo2bo$10b3o2b2o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o$9b3o2$17bob2o$15b3ob2o$13b2o6bo$14b2ob2o$10bo$10b2o$10b3o2$b2obo$b2ob3o$o6b2o$3b2ob2o$11bo$10b2o3b2o$9b3o4bo2bo$16bobobo$14bobo2bo$13b2obo$10bo4bo$10b5o2$12bo$11bobo$12bo! Nico Brown glider_rider Posts: 88 Joined: February 20th, 2013, 5:41 pm Location: CA ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries glider_rider wrote:Also, here's a p18 I found while messing around with honey farms That is beautiful! It's exactly the kind of oscillator I envisioned when I made this post. Did you find it by hand, or did you use some sort of automated search? -Matthias Merzenich Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1479 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries I found it by hand, while trying to perturb a honey farm with eaters. Maybe there's some sort of catalyst which can keep one reaction running on its own? Sadly, I've had trouble getting Bellman up and running on my computer, so I can't check. Here's a c/5 spaceship: x = 18, y = 48, rule = B3/S235b2o4b2o$5b8o3$5bo6bo$b2obo8bob2o$3b2ob6ob2o$4b2o6b2o$b2ob2o6b2ob2o$bo14bo$2bobo8bobo$4b3o4b3o$5bo6bo$4b2ob4ob2o$4b2ob4ob2o$5bobo2bobo$7bo2bo$6bo4bo$4bob2o2b2obo$4b10o$4b2o2b2o2b2o$2bo12bo$2b3o3b2o3b3o$2obob3o2b3obob2o$2bo5b2o5bo$3o2b2ob2ob2o2b3o$3b4o4b4o2$7bo2bo$8b2o$2bo4bo2bo4bo$3bo2b2o2b2o2bo$bobo10bobo$2obo10bob2o$2ob2o8b2ob2o$bob2o8b2obo$bob2o8b2obo$bobo10bobo$b6o4b6o$4b2o6b2o2$5bobo2bobo$b2o2bob4obo2b2o$b2o12b2o$4b3o4b3o$6bob2obo$8b2o$8b2o!

Two more oscillators (p5 and p6):

x = 74, y = 39, rule = B3/S238$19b2o3b2o22bo3b2o3b2o3bo$18bo2bobo2bo20bobobobo3bobobobo$18b4ob4o19bo2bobo7bobo2bo$15b2obobo3bobob2o16bob2ob2o5b2ob2obo$14bobobo7bobobo13b2o2bobo9bobo2b2o$13bo2bo11bo2bo11bo4bobobo5bobobo4bo$12bo3bo11bo3bo9bo2b3o2bob2o3b2obo2b3o2bo$12b4ob3o5b3ob4o10b3o4bobo5bobo4b3o$16bobo2b3o2bobo17b4ob3o3b3ob4o$10b4o2b2obo5bob2o2b4o8b3o4bo2b2ob2o2bo4b3o$9bobo4bobo7bobo4bobo6bo2bob4o9b4obo2bo$9bob2o8b3o8b2obo6b2o4bob2o2b3o2b2obo4b2o$10b2o5bo2bo3bo2bo5b2o16bobo3bobo$17bo2bo3bo2bo25bo3bo$10b2o5bo2bo3bo2bo5b2o16bobo3bobo$9bob2o8b3o8b2obo6b2o4bob2o2b3o2b2obo4b2o$9bobo4bobo7bobo4bobo6bo2bob4o9b4obo2bo$10b4o2b2obo5bob2o2b4o8b3o4bo2b2ob2o2bo4b3o$16bobo2b3o2bobo17b4ob3o3b3ob4o$12b4ob3o5b3ob4o10b3o4bobo5bobo4b3o$12bo3bo11bo3bo9bo2b3o2bob2o3b2obo2b3o2bo$13bo2bo11bo2bo11bo4bobobo5bobobo4bo$14bobobo7bobobo13b2o2bobo9bobo2b2o$15b2obobo3bobob2o16bob2ob2o5b2ob2obo$18b4ob4o19bo2bobo7bobo2bo$18bo2bobo2bo20bobobobo3bobobobo$19b2o3b2o22bo3b2o3b2o3bo! Nico Brown glider_rider Posts: 88 Joined: February 20th, 2013, 5:41 pm Location: CA ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries glider_rider wrote:Sadly, I've had trouble getting Bellman up and running on my computer, so I can't check. There is now much more "OS friendly" version of bellman. Check it out: https://github.com/simsim314/BellmanWin If it doesn't work at you OS or you have any issues compiling it - I would be very glad to know and add a fix. simsim314 Posts: 1696 Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries glider_rider wrote:Here's a c/5 spaceship: Wow, did you find this from scratch or is it based on some partial pattern? Either way it looks like it's taken quite some time to finish that. Although it doesn't break any records, I bet it's hard to find spaceships, especially one of that velocity. EDIT: Uh, oh... Didn't verify the jslife collection Last edited by Scorbie on January 16th, 2015, 1:42 am, edited 2 times in total. Best wishes to you, Scorbie Scorbie Posts: 1380 Joined: December 7th, 2013, 1:05 am ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries The c/5 ship is in the jslife collection. -Josh Ball. velcrorex Posts: 339 Joined: November 1st, 2009, 1:33 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries velcrorex wrote:The c/5 ship is in the jslife collection. Oops... simsim314 wrote:There is now much more "OS friendly" version of bellman. Thanks! I've got it up and running now. Would this be the correct input file? If not, what's wrong? #S first-encounter 0#S last-encounter 18#S repair-interval 18#S max-active 8#S max-live 60#P 0 0...........................................................................???????????????????.............???????????????????.............???????????????????.............???????????????????.....@.......???????????????????.....@@@.....???????????????????........@....???????????????????.......@@.....??????????????????...............?????????????????..........@@....????????????????..........@......???????????????.................???????????????.........@@@.....???????????????....@@..........????????????????...@.@..........????????????????...@...........?????????????????..@@.........???????????????????.......@@....???????????????????........@....???????????????????.....@@@.....???????????????????.....@.......???????????????????.............???????????????????.............???????????????????.............???????????????????.............???????????????????..................................................................#F 18 0 0.....................................................................*..........***...........*.........**.......................**.........*....................***...**........*.*........*.........**..............**..........*.......***........*......................................................................... Nico Brown glider_rider Posts: 88 Joined: February 20th, 2013, 5:41 pm Location: CA ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries first-encounter should be >= 1. Might take some time - as all your parameter set to high values. Consider lowering repair-interval or max-active for the first couple of runs - you might get results faster with lower values. simsim314 Posts: 1696 Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries glider_rider wrote:Would this be the correct input file? If not, what's wrong? Here are some things I would suggest: • Set first-encounter to 11. Any reaction that occurs before this will almost certainly not do what you want, so the search is just wasting time searching this space. • Set last-encounter to 15. Any reaction that starts after this will probably not do what you want. • Set repair-interval to 14 or 15. If repair-interval + stable-interval > 18 then the newly formed honeyfarm will crash back into the catalyst, which I think will cause the search to fail (that is, it won't find the pattern you want). • Set stable-interval to 2. I personally never use the default values for any parameter, partly because I can't remember the default value and partly because the default value is almost never what I want. • I personally like to set max-live to something very high, like 500. I just don't think there is a lot of reason to filter based on the number of live cells. 60 is probably high enough that it won't miss anything, but I like to be extra sure. • I don't usually set a filter pattern, because I worry there will be some reaction I wasn't expecting that gives interesting but different output. I only use a filter pattern when I am really sure about what I want and am getting too much extraneous output. With these changes made, I suggest running the search to completion with max-active = 4 (this should be pretty fast, but likely won't find anything). If this finishes without finding what you want, try increasing max-active to 5 or 6 and run the search again. Keep doing this until you find what you're looking for or the searches start taking too long. You can also try varying some of the other parameters like first-encounter, last-encounter, or repair-interval to see if those speed up the search. I would suggest an input file like this: #S first-encounter 11#S last-encounter 15#S repair-interval 15#S stable-interval 2#S max-live 500#S max-active 4#P 0 0.................................................................................???????????????????...............???????????????????...............???????????????????...............???????????????????.......@.......???????????????????.......@@@.....???????????????????..........@....???????????????????.........@@.....??????????????????.................?????????????????............@@....????????????????............@......???????????????...................???????????????...........@@@.....???????????????......@@..........????????????????.....@.@..........????????????????.....@...........?????????????????....@@.........???????????????????.........@@....???????????????????..........@....???????????????????.......@@@.....???????????????????.......@.......???????????????????...............???????????????????...............???????????????????...............???????????????????...............???????????????????...................................................................... -Matthias Merzenich Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1479 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Sokwe wrote:Set stable-interval to 2 Yep the default stable-interval is 5. Can be a problem for p18. Sokwe wrote: I just don't think there is a lot of reason to filter based on the number of live cells max-live is nice filter, built-in into golly recursion. This is the main "shortcut" for VERY large search spaces where both max-active and repair-interval should be pretty big. This limits the search space very seriously, and can allow the execution to be so much faster - obviously with a cost. I also want to add max-gen flag, for cases like this that don't need to iterate after generation 18. simsim314 Posts: 1696 Joined: February 10th, 2014, 1:27 pm ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries A pair of blocks can eat four weekenders. x = 16, y = 81, rule = B3/S232o12b2o$2o12b2o3$bo12bo$bo12bo$obo10bobo$bo12bo$bo12bo$2bo3b4o3bo$6b4o$2b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o12$bo12bo$bo12bo$obo10bobo$bo12bo$bo12bo$2bo3b4o3bo$6b4o$2b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o12$bo12bo$bo12bo$obo10bobo$bo12bo$bo12bo$2bo3b4o3bo$6b4o$2b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o12$bo12bo$bo12bo$obo10bobo$bo12bo$bo12bo$2bo3b4o3bo$6b4o$2b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o!

P. S. I assume, it's known that two eaters eat a weekender, isn't it?
x = 16, y = 28, rule = B3/S236bo2bo$4b3o2b3o$3bo8bo$3b2o6b2o14$bo12bo$bo12bo$obo10bobo$bo12bo$bo12bo$2bo3b4o3bo$6b4o$2b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo$5b2o2b2o! P. P. S. Weekender three eater: x = 20, y = 50, rule = B3/S232o3b2o6b2o3b2o$obobobo6bobobobo$2bobo10bobo$b2ob2o8b2ob2o$9b2o$9b2o2$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$2bobo10bobo$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$4bo3b4o3bo$8b4o$4b4o4b4o2$6bo6bo$7b2o2b2o6$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$2bobo10bobo$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$4bo3b4o3bo$8b4o$4b4o4b4o2$6bo6bo$7b2o2b2o6$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$2bobo10bobo$3bo12bo$3bo12bo$4bo3b4o3bo$8b4o$4b4o4b4o2$6bo6bo$7b2o2b2o!
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codeholic wrote:A pair of blocks can eat four weekenders.

It's a lucky extra feature that the blinker stage suppresses both T=0 (mod 2) and T=1 (mod 2) following weekenders:

x = 68, y = 14, rule = B3/S236bo4bo$6bo4bo43b3o2b3o$6bo4bo$2bo12bo36bo12bo$b3o10b3o34b3o10b3o$5o8b5o32b5o8b5o$5o8b5o32b5o8b5o$bo6b2o6bo34bo6b2o6bo$2b3o3b2o3b3o36b3o3b2o3b3o$5bobo2bobo42bobo2bobo$7bo2bo46bo2bo$5bo6bo42bo6bo$6b6o44b6o$6bo4bo44bo4bo! codeholic wrote:P. S. I assume, it's known that two eaters eat a weekender, isn't it? Yes, that was posted by knightlife a while back, following calcyman's Rube Goldberg version (which actually included the exact same eaters). dvgrn Moderator Posts: 5755 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries Two unixes hassle a stairstep hexomino: x = 22, y = 17, rule = B3/S2317bo2bo$17bo$16bo4bo$15bobo2b2o$13b2obo3$9b2o2bo2bo$5b2o3b2o3b2o$5bo2bo2b2o3$5bob2o$2o2bobo$o4bo$4bo$bo2bo! It's not listed in the pentadecathlon.com database, so I think it's new. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1862 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread For Your Accidental Discoveries p46 highway robber: x = 61, y = 33, rule = B3/S2317b2o$17bobo7b2o$19bo7b2o$3bo13b3o$b3o$o$b3o$3bo13b3o$19bo$17bobo$17b2o8$30bo7bo$29bobo5bobo$32bo3bo$29bo2bo3bo2bo$30bobo3bobo$32b2ob2o$29b2ob2ob2ob2o18b2o$29b2o2bobo2b2o18bobo$30b3o3b3o19bo$31bo5bo2$32b2ob2o$33bobo$33bobo\$34bo!
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