## Four engine extendable Cordership

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### Four engine extendable Cordership

Here is two engine Cordership puffer that can be turned into 4 engine extendable Cordership:

`x = 195, y = 122, rule = B3/S233\$29bo\$28bobo\$27b2ob2o\$4b3o20b2ob2o\$3bo3bo18b3o\$2bo4bo18b3o3bo12b2o\$bo3bo20b3o4bo11b2o\$bo2bob3o18b2o5bo\$bo7bo17b3o\$3bo3bobo18b2o\$3bo3bob2o18b2o\$5b3ob2o33b2o\$21b2o\$21b2o6bo14b3o6b2o\$28b3o13bobo6b2o\$27bo3bo\$5b2o24b2o13bo\$5b2o23b2o13b2o\$6bo38b2o2\$6bo22b2o13b2o\$29b2o13b3o\$42b3o\$4bo5b3o21b3o5bo\$4bo7bo\$4bo5bobo10b2o16b3o\$10b2o10bo2bo15bo\$21bo3bo15b3o\$23b2o35b2o\$60b2o\$17bo\$15b2o\$9b2o2b2o5bo\$9b2o4b2o\$19bo\$16b4o\$15bobo50b2o\$14bo2b2obo47b2o\$15bo4bo\$16bo\$17bo2bo\$17b2o3\$76b2o\$76b2o7\$84b2o\$84b2o7\$92b2o\$92b2o2\$143bo\$142bobo\$141bo3bo\$142bobo\$143bo14b3o\$100b2o55bo3bo\$100b2o41b4o10b3o2bo\$142bo4bo9bo3bo\$144bo13b3o\$141bo3bo2bo9b2o7b2o\$141bob3obo19b2o\$142b3obo2\$108b2o\$108b2o50bo\$157b5o\$156bo\$172bo\$157bo3bo9bob2o\$158b3o12b3o\$164b2o4b3o3bo\$116b2o29b2o14bo2bo4b5o\$116b2o29b2o13bo5bo5bo\$161bo2b2o\$160b2ob2ob3o\$134b3o15b2o6bo2bo\$133bo17b4o5bob2o\$132bo4b2o11bo4bo5b2o\$131bo3bo9bobobo2bo2b2o\$124b2o5bo2bo4bo4bo2bobo4b2o\$124b2o5bo3bo3bo3bo4bo3b3o\$132b2obob3o4bo4b2obo\$135bo11bo\$136b4o6b2o\$138b2o\$157b3o2\$132b2o\$132b2o!`

One can clean the mess from the other side as well:

`x = 134, y = 149, rule = B3/S236\$30bo\$29bobo\$28b2ob2o\$5b3o20b2ob2o\$4bo3bo18b3o\$3bo4bo18b3o3bo12b2o\$2bo3bo20b3o4bo11b2o\$2bo2bob3o18b2o5bo\$2bo7bo17b3o\$4bo3bobo18b2o\$4bo3bob2o18b2o\$6b3ob2o33b2o\$22b2o\$22b2o6bo14b3o6b2o\$29b3o13bobo6b2o\$28bo3bo\$6b2o24b2o13bo\$6b2o23b2o13b2o\$7bo38b2o2\$7bo22b2o13b2o\$30b2o13b3o\$43b3o\$5bo5b3o21b3o5bo\$5bo7bo\$5bo5bobo10b2o16b3o\$11b2o10bo2bo15bo\$22bo3bo15b3o\$24b2o35b2o\$61b2o\$18bo\$16b2o\$10b2o2b2o5bo\$10b2o4b2o\$20bo\$17b4o\$16bobo50b2o\$15bo2b2obo47b2o\$16bo4bo\$17bo\$18bo2bo\$18b2o3\$77b2o\$77b2o7\$85b2o\$85b2o7\$93b2o\$93b2o7\$101b2o\$101b2o7\$109b2o\$109b2o7\$117b2o\$117b2o6\$116b3o\$115bo3bo5b2o\$114bo4bo5b2o\$113bo3bo\$113bo2bob3o\$113bo7bo\$115bo3bobo\$115bo3bob2o\$117b3ob2o2\$90bo6b2o\$89bobo3bo3bo\$88bo3bobo3b2o18bo\$89bobo2bobob2o17bobo\$90bo3bo2b2o17bo\$94bo4bo21bo\$95bo2bo10b2o5b2o2b2o\$97bo11b2o7bo\$116b2obo\$115bo3bo\$114bo\$113b2obob2o\$113b2o3bo\$114bo2b2o\$115b3o\$104bo11bo\$93b3o7bo2bo16bo\$92bobob2o5bo3bo15bo\$92bobob2o5bo3bo15bo\$92bo3bo5b2o3bo4b3o\$93bobo7bo2bo4b2o2bo\$94bo15bo3b2o\$109bo2b3o\$108bo2b2o\$108bo2bo\$109bo2bo\$97b2o13bo\$97b2o11bobo2\$108bo\$106bob2o\$105bo2b2o\$106b2obo\$106b2ob2o\$107bobo\$108bo!`

It has also regenerative powers, as deleting the blocks in the middle will not destroy it at all:

`x = 204, y = 128, rule = B3/S2314\$36bobo\$35bo\$36bo2bo\$38bobo\$41bo11b3o\$40b3o\$13b3o24bo\$38b2o\$17bo22bo13b3o\$13bo3b2o12bo6bo2bo12b3o5b2o\$15bobo13b2o5bobo13b2o6b2o\$12b3o16bobo4bo14bo\$14bo36b2o2bo\$30b2o20bo3bo\$13b2o16b2o19bo2bo\$14b2o14bo2bo19b3o\$14bo15b3o5b2o\$14b2o22b2o\$13b2o29bo\$44bo\$44bo4\$29b2o\$28b3o\$28bo2bo\$29b3o\$18b2o9b3o\$18b2o7\$26b2o\$26b2o11\$93b2o\$93b2o7\$101b2o\$101b2o5\$165bo\$151bobo6bo2b4o\$109b2o39bo9bob4o\$109b2o40bo2bo6b3o3b2o\$153b3o9bo2b2o\$166bob2o\$167bo8b2o\$176b2o6\$176b3o\$174bo4bo4b2o\$176bob2o4b2o\$173b3o\$166bo\$125b2o29b2o9bobobo\$125b2o29b2o5b5o3bo\$164b2o2bo2bo\$169b2o3\$152bo\$147bo2bobo2bo3bo\$133b2o12bo4b2ob5o4b2o\$133b2o12bo3bo4bobo5b2o2\$149b3o\$150bo\$167bo\$167bo\$167bo\$141b2o\$141b2o!`

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

That's quite interesting. It reminded me that I was recently wondering if a reading device for a tape of still lifes for an "engineless" caterpillar could be based on c/12 diagonal technology
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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

codeholic wrote:That's quite interesting. It reminded me that I was recently wondering if a reading device for a tape of still lifes for an "engineless" caterpillar could be based on c/12 diagonal technology.

It's vaguely promising that the extendable Cordership puts blocks wherever there aren't blocks, and removes blocks wherever there are blocks... but it's not quite that easy -- the transitions are a little awkward, so blocks get left in two different lines.

My immediate reaction was that nobody has done any really good Herschel-circuit toolkit building since the Snark and semi-Snark appeared, and it should now be possible to build a glider-to-Cordership converter in about a tenth as much space as the old one.

Actually, looking at it again, that pattern could probably have been cut down quite a bit even without any new technology -- an order of magnitude should be easy nowadays. The new Cordership can be constructed with two identical circuits, each of which builds one of the halves... as long as the construction method takes into account the possibility of a pre-existing line of blocks.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

dvgrn wrote:The new Cordership can be constructed with two identical circuits, each of which builds one of the halves...

Actually one can use exactly the same circuit twice to build the head and the tail, as one can notice it is the same cordership component.

`x = 217, y = 218, rule = B3/S2328b3o6bo\$27bo4bo3bobo\$27bo4b2o3bo\$27bo6bo\$28b3obo2bobo\$32b5o\$37bo10b2o\$2b5o7bo33b2o\$2o5b2o4bobo\$o7bo4bo19bo\$2o7bo3bo2bo16bo\$2b2o6bo3b3o\$5bo28bo\$5bo4bo13b2o8b2o\$6b2obo14b2o8b2o20b2o\$56b2o\$29b3o2\$52b2o\$33bo16bo2bo\$31b2o16bo4bo\$31b2ob2o12b2ob2ob2o\$22b2o4b2ob2ob2o11bo5b2o\$19b2o3bo3b3obobo12bo3bo\$10bob2o4bo5bo5b3ob2o11bo\$4b2o4b3o11bo5bo3b2o8bo2bo2bobo\$4b2o6bo10bo7b3o12bo5bo\$17b6o9bo10b2o5bobo\$18bo2bo20b3o2bob3o\$23b2o21bobo14b2o\$23b2o17bo3bobo14b2o3\$12b2o\$12b2o3\$71b2o\$71b2o7\$79b2o\$79b2o7\$87b2o\$87b2o7\$95b2o\$95b2o7\$103b2o\$103b2o7\$111b2o\$111b2o7\$119b2o\$119b2o7\$127b2o\$127b2o7\$135b2o\$135b2o7\$143b2o\$143b2o7\$151b2o\$151b2o7\$159b2o\$159b2o7\$167b2o\$167b2o7\$175b2o\$175b2o7\$183b2o\$183b2o7\$191b2o\$191b2o7\$199b2o\$199b2o7\$207b2o\$207b2o7\$215b2o\$215b2o\$203b3o6bo\$202bo4bo3bobo\$202bo4b2o3bo\$202bo6bo\$203b3obo2bobo\$207b5o\$212bo\$177b5o7bo\$175b2o5b2o4bobo\$175bo7bo4bo19bo\$175b2o7bo3bo2bo16bo\$177b2o6bo3b3o\$180bo28bo\$180bo4bo13b2o8b2o\$181b2obo14b2o8b2o2\$204b3o3\$208bo\$206b2o\$206b2ob2o\$197b2o4b2ob2ob2o\$194b2o3bo3b3obobo\$185bob2o4bo5bo5b3ob2ob3o\$179b2o4b3o11bo5bo3b2o\$179b2o6bo10bo7b3o\$192b6o9bo\$193bo2bo\$198b2o\$198b2o3\$187b2o\$187b2o!`

On the other hand they are not perfectly diagonally aligned, so the question is: is there a cheap way to move construction 5 cells to the left? Maybe one can use some dry salvo technology and use 5 gliders to "edge move" a block. But this is not obviously better than just having two circuits.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

codeholic wrote: I was recently wondering if a reading device for a tape of still lifes for an "engineless" caterpillar could be based on c/12 diagonal technology

I was wondering if engineless caterpillar can be entirely based on c/12 technology, using corderships instead of *WSS. The obvious disadvantage of this approach is that caterpillar corderships synth is kinda heavy. But this finding might make this idea more appealing.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

Here are ways it swallows a block (notice there is no inversion here):

`x = 8308, y = 204, rule = B3/S232o1006b2o1007b2o1018b2o1009b2o1008b2o1008b2o1001b2o999b2o\$2o1006b2o1007b2o1018b2o1009b2o1008b2o1008b2o1001b2o999b2o108\$173bo999bo999bo999bo999bo999bo999bo999bo999bo\$159b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo984b2o7b2o2bobo\$159b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo983b3o6b4o3bo\$159b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo986b2obobo7bo\$134b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o956b2o26b2o10bob2o\$133bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo956bo40bobo\$133bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o947bo2bo38bo8b2o\$131b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o945b2ob4o46b2o\$130bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o976bo20b3o\$130bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo990bo3b3o2bo\$130bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo983bo2bo2bob3o3bobo\$132b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo986b2o4b3o4bo\$134b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo994b2obobo\$135b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o973b2obo14bo6b2o\$138bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o976bo12b4o5b2o\$150bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo995bo3bo\$150bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o982bo2bo11b3o\$151b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o997b3o4\$191b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$191b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o2\$187b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$140b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o950b2o41b7o\$140b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o949b2o40bob7o\$190b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$184b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o993b7o\$180bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o979bo5b4o9b2o\$181b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o980b2o4b2o10b2o3\$148b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$148b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o3\$207b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$207b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o7\$215b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$215b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o7\$223b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$223b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o5\$278b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo990b3o6bo\$277bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo988bo4bo3bobo\$231b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo943b2o44bo4b2o3bo\$231b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo946b2o44bo6bo\$278b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo990b3obo2bobo\$282b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o995b5o\$287bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o987bo10b2o\$298b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o3\$239b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$239b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o3\$306b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o998b2o\$282b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o974b2o22b2o\$282b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o987b4o5bob2o\$280b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo982b2ob3o5bo3bobo\$247b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo949b2o31b2o3b2o10bo\$247b2o31b2obobo9bobo949b2o31b2obobo9bobo949b2o31b2obobo9bobo949b2o31b2obobo9bobo949b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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

simsim314 wrote:... the question is: is there a cheap way to move construction 5 cells to the left? Maybe one can use some dry salvo technology and use 5 gliders to "edge move" a block. But this is not obviously better than just having two circuits.

What I'm seeing is more like "1 cell to the left and 7 cells down", or "9 cells to the left and 1 cell up", etc. But that's theoretically workable, with either a set of slide guns (maybe?) or with a universal-constructor-based design. If it's a single-arm UC, it could just move its target block by (1,7) or (-9,-1) after every time it triggers a two-engine puffer seed.

The elbow and target would stay on the same color, so it seems as if everything should work as long as the blocks from the first puffer can be arranged to end at just the right place for the second puffer to pick them up.

That seems to be easy to arrange. The U.C. can build exploratory targets and then destroy them, in such a way that the implosion also destroys unwanted puffer blocks nearby (if they're there -- half the time they won't be, but the block creation and destruction will work the same). A simple block annihilation can do this trick in several different ways.

This would make for ridiculously long Corderships, though. Maybe better would be to run two separate U.C.s with the same glider loop, so that the two constructions finish at about the same time.

That's clearly within reach, too -- just needs someone to string together a suitable slow-salvo construction of the two-engine puffer, along the lines of the Blockic seed construction from the superslow loafer gun. But this time any small objects are fair game, not just blocks.

I think that would be the first Cordership built by a universal constructor. Maybe it's finally time to put together a good two-arm U.C., to get the construction done in a (relatively) reasonable amount of time. Have been working out some new two-arm blueprints in my head recently: I think two-arm Geminoid designs are possible with as few as 104 still lifes -- not that the still life count would matter for this purpose, where the U.C. doesn't have to be constructible. It's just nice that they don't have to be too complicated.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

I think UC here is overshoot, unless you just want to practice UC construction scripts etc.

As for slider gun - sound like a great Idea, but this probably should be used for the gun, as for G->cordership the regular trucks should be used in my opinion.

It might be possible to make two optional Herschel tracks, with multiplier that at some part of the path makes timing adjustments. The first signal will fire "back signal" that will come to the same place again, and follow the second path, but the main and heavy H-> glider track combination will remain the same.

As for color issues, I didn't check all possible locations of the tail, maybe the color issue can be fixed just by placing the tail in more suited location.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

simsim314 wrote:
codeholic wrote: I was recently wondering if a reading device for a tape of still lifes for an "engineless" caterpillar could be based on c/12 diagonal technology

I was wondering if engineless caterpillar can be entirely based on c/12 technology, using corderships instead of *WSS.

That's what I meant too. You can't use *WSS together with corderships, because they move in different slopes. I thought about using a helix that consists of gliders and moves to the front of the ship, where it burns and generates a c/12 device that moves along the spine and reads the tape while moving it forward.
simsim314 wrote:The obvious disadvantage of this approach is that caterpillar corderships synth is kinda heavy.

If one can find a c/12 reading device that consists of 3-4 switch engines, that may be in fact easier to synthesise than a salvo of 11 *WSS which is currently the bottom limit.

Also I expect synthesising a burning helix consisting of gliders would require less effort.

And that might be the first diagonal spaceship with adjustable speed, if Demonoid project isn't faster!
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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

codeholic wrote:If one can find a c/12 reading device that consists of 3-4 switch engines, that may be in fact easier to synthesise than a salvo of 11 *WSS which is currently the bottom limit.

Oh now I got you. Here is kinda track "reader", that currently only moves a track, but using some other cordership constructions, might be possible to convert empty spaces (or full spaces) into gliders with it.

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And about 11 *WSS - I wanted to start searches on this topic, I believe 4-5 is what one should aim for. Anyway currently I have some other projects in mind, but direction you mention here is very interesting, but I guess it will not be easier than *WSS. On the other hand *WSS is orthogonal, so this approach might still be valuable.

EDIT I've found a way to convert extra block into glider, but the relative location of the tracks need some adjustment.

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EDIT2 Another point that should be noticed is that after my two switch engine "reads" a track, it duplicates the data into two separate tracks. Both of them can be used. This might be necessary for slow salvo, as the way I placed it now, the tracks come back into "original" state moved by one, after only two passes of the reading head. But one can use the other track instead.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

simsim314 wrote:I think UC here is overshoot, unless you just want to practice UC construction scripts etc.

Oh, no argument there: it's definitely overkill. One glider loop for both puffers seemed like a nice trick, though. The actual U.C.s are so small that adding a second one would barely be noticeable -- if only because the glider loop would be so big.

simsim314 wrote:As for slider gun - sound like a great Idea, but this probably should be used for the gun, as for G->cordership the regular trucks should be used in my opinion.

Yes, a slide-gun solution would probably just make things more complicated, even for a gun. The cleanest way to make a Cordership gun is to build a G->C, and then hook it up to whatever period glider gun you want.

The simplest U.C./slide-gun approach will build something slightly strange that can't be done with plain Herschel circuits -- a "tethered Cordership rake", where each new 4-engine Cordership is constructed on a slightly different lane. On the other hand, there hasn't really been any high demand for a pattern that does that...!

simsim314 wrote:It might be possible to make two optional Herschel tracks, with multiplier that at some part of the path makes timing adjustments. The first signal will fire "back signal" that will come to the same place again, and follow the second path, but the main and heavy H-> glider track combination will remain the same.

Sounds vaguely plausible, but it depends on how the construction works. Probably it will be fairly trivial to come up with a workable glider recipe for the 2-engine puffer based on the old G->C, and then it will be easier to figure out exactly how to generate those gliders.

As an aside, the recent block-to-glider Cordership used in the last sample pattern is the old 7-glider model. There's a 6G version that works the same way, which would make construction just a bit easier:

`#C 6-engine double-glider Cordershipx = 102, y = 106, rule = B3/S2367b3o\$68bo\$68bo2bo\$68bo2bo\$69bobo\$84b2o\$84b2o3\$68bo\$67bobo\$68bo\$68bo16bo\$84bo7b2o\$92b2o\$82bo\$82bobo\$76bo6bo\$75bobo\$75bobo\$54b2o7b2o11bo\$43bo10b3o6b3o2b2o30b2o\$42b2o10b2obobo26bo13b2o\$41bob2o12b2o26b2o\$41bo2b2o39bobo\$39b4ob3o38b2o\$38bo2bobo2b2o37b2o\$39bobobob3o\$40b2ob3obo36bo\$40b4o2bobo34b3o\$43bo3bo34bob2o6bo\$43bo3bo44b2o\$43bo2bo35b2o7bobo10\$26bo\$25bobo\$25bo2b2o\$23b7o\$22bo2bo3bo30bo\$21b3o2b7o27b2o\$23b3o2bo30bobo\$24b2ob2o\$25b3obo2bo\$26b3ob2o\$29bo6\$20b3o33b2ob2o\$20b3o33bo3bo\$21bo33bo2b3o\$22b2o32b3o\$23bo\$22bo25bo\$46b2o\$47b2o2\$20b2o\$20b2o\$21bo2\$o9bo\$4o5bob2o8bo\$o3bo5bo10bo2\$2b3o4\$18b2o\$17bo2bo\$18b2o5\$15b2o13bobo\$17bo11bo2bo\$5b2o6bo2bo11b3o\$5b2o5bo10b4o2b2o\$22b2ob2o\$24bo4\$32bo\$13b2o15b2o\$13b2o16b2o7\$21b2o\$21b2o!`

If you only need gliders on one side, David Bell came up with a 5-engine variant back in 2005:

`#C Cordership converts still lifes to gliders  David Bell  5 June 2005x = 110, y = 166, rule = B3/S23bo\$obo\$obo\$bo5\$4boo\$3bobbo\$4boo4\$11bo\$10bobo\$11boo7\$19boo\$18bobo\$19bo6\$30boo\$30bobo\$31bo7\$41bo\$40bobo\$40boo5\$42b3o8\$52boo\$52boo15\$65bobo\$66boo\$66bo12\$104bo\$104bobo\$104boo5\$73bo6boo\$72bobo3bo3bo\$71bo3bobo3boo\$72bobobboboboo\$73bo3bobboo\$77bo4bo\$78bobbo10boo\$80bo11boo3\$76bo\$75bobo\$75bobo\$76bo\$100boo\$100boo3\$62bobo19bo\$61bobbo18bobo\$62bobo18bobo\$84bo\$108boo\$64bo43boo\$63boboo\$63boboo39boo\$62bo3bo38bobo\$46boobo13b4o40bo\$45b3obo6bobo4b3o\$44bo4bobo4bo\$45boo6bobo3bo\$46bo3bobbobboo\$29b3o17boboo3bo\$29b3o16bobo\$30bo17bobo\$31boo\$32bo\$31bo\$\$7bo\$5booboo\$29boo43boo\$8boo19boo42bobo\$9bo20bo44bo\$3bo3bo15boo18boo\$7bo3bo11boo18boo\$29boo\$\$5bo23boo\$6b3o18boboo\$27b4o\$24bobboo\$6b3o13bobo26boo\$6b3o13bobo26boo\$6booboo12bo\$10bo12boo\$8b3o14bo\$23boo\$22bobo\$22bobo\$24bo\$20bobo\$20bo\$19bobo\$11boo6boo\$11boo5bo\$19boo\$20bo5\$19boo\$19boo!`

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

dvgrn wrote:If you only need gliders on one side, David Bell came up with a 5-engine variant back in 2005:

Wow thx! Here it is now, although shooting two gliders in two directions, but also making a step of 1 cell diagonally, making slow salvoing much more probable.

`x = 2412, y = 2369, rule = B3/S232o\$2o15\$16b2o\$16b2o15\$32b2o\$32b2o15\$48b2o\$48b2o15\$64b2o\$64b2o15\$80b2o\$80b2o15\$96b2o\$96b2o15\$112b2o\$112b2o15\$128b2o\$128b2o15\$144b2o\$144b2o15\$160b2o\$160b2o15\$176b2o\$176b2o15\$192b2o\$192b2o15\$208b2o\$208b2o15\$224b2o\$224b2o15\$240b2o\$240b2o15\$256b2o\$256b2o15\$272b2o\$272b2o15\$288b2o\$288b2o15\$304b2o\$304b2o15\$320b2o\$320b2o15\$336b2o\$336b2o15\$352b2o\$352b2o15\$368b2o\$368b2o15\$384b2o\$384b2o15\$400b2o\$400b2o15\$416b2o\$416b2o15\$432b2o\$432b2o15\$448b2o\$448b2o15\$464b2o\$464b2o15\$480b2o\$480b2o15\$496b2o\$496b2o15\$512b2o\$512b2o31\$544b2o\$544b2o15\$560b2o\$560b2o15\$576b2o\$576b2o15\$592b2o\$592b2o15\$608b2o\$608b2o15\$624b2o\$624b2o15\$640b2o\$640b2o15\$656b2o\$656b2o15\$672b2o\$672b2o15\$688b2o\$688b2o15\$704b2o\$704b2o15\$720b2o\$720b2o15\$736b2o\$736b2o15\$752b2o\$752b2o15\$768b2o\$768b2o15\$784b2o\$784b2o15\$800b2o\$800b2o15\$816b2o\$816b2o15\$832b2o\$832b2o15\$848b2o\$848b2o15\$864b2o\$864b2o31\$896b2o\$896b2o15\$912b2o\$912b2o15\$928b2o\$928b2o15\$944b2o\$944b2o15\$960b2o\$960b2o15\$976b2o\$976b2o15\$992b2o\$992b2o15\$1008b2o\$1008b2o15\$1024b2o\$1024b2o15\$1040b2o\$1040b2o15\$1056b2o\$1056b2o15\$1072b2o\$1072b2o15\$1088b2o\$1088b2o15\$1104b2o\$1104b2o15\$1120b2o\$1120b2o15\$1136b2o\$1136b2o15\$1152b2o\$1152b2o15\$1168b2o\$1168b2o15\$1184b2o\$1184b2o15\$1200b2o\$1200b2o15\$1216b2o\$1216b2o15\$1232b2o\$1232b2o15\$1248b2o\$1248b2o15\$1264b2o\$1264b2o15\$1280b2o\$1280b2o15\$1296b2o\$1296b2o15\$1312b2o\$1312b2o15\$1328b2o\$1328b2o15\$1344b2o\$1344b2o15\$1360b2o\$1360b2o15\$1376b2o\$1376b2o16\$1375bo\$1374bobo\$1373bo3bo\$1373bo3bo\$1373bobob3o\$1374b2obo2bo\$1351bobo24bobo\$1351b3o24b2o20b2o\$1351b2o15bo31b2o\$1368bo\$1367bo\$1354bo13b2o\$1352bobo12bo2bo\$1352b3o12bobo\$1355bo20b2o\$1351b5o12bo7b2o\$1366bo2bo12bo\$1367b4o11bo\$1369b2o11bo\$1367bo\$1366b2o\$1366bo2bo\$1367b3o37b2o\$1368bo38b2o7b2o\$1416b2o2\$1356b2o\$1356b2o46b2o2b2o\$1404b6o\$1404b2o2b2o5\$1364b2o\$1364b2o3\$1423b2o\$1423b2o7b2o\$1432b2o14\$1439b2o\$1439b2o7b2o\$1448b2o14\$1455b2o\$1455b2o7b2o\$1464b2o14\$1471b2o\$1471b2o7b2o\$1480b2o14\$1487b2o\$1487b2o7b2o\$1496b2o14\$1503b2o\$1503b2o7b2o\$1512b2o14\$1519b2o\$1519b2o7b2o\$1528b2o14\$1535b2o\$1535b2o7b2o\$1544b2o14\$1551b2o\$1551b2o7b2o\$1560b2o14\$1567b2o\$1567b2o7b2o\$1576b2o2\$1550bo\$1549b3o15bo\$1548b2ob2o14bo\$1547b2o3bo7b4o3bo\$1548bobobobo5bo3bo\$1549b2obo2bo4b2o3bo\$1552b2obo7b3o\$1553b2o10b2obo6b2o\$1566b3o6b2o\$1567bo2\$1559bo\$1546bo11bobo\$1545bobo10bobo31b2o\$1544b2ob2o10bo32b2o\$1545bo2bo\$1547b3o\$1547bobo\$1548b2o\$1548b2o17bo\$1566bobo\$1566bobo\$1567bo\$1545bobo\$1545bo2bo\$1544b2ob2o\$1527bo15b5o\$1524b4o16b3o\$1545bo2\$1606b2o\$1527bobo76b2o\$1509b3o6bo9bo13b2o\$1508bo4bo3bobo6b2o13bo2bo\$1508bo4b2o3bo7bo2bo11bo\$1508bo6bo9b2ob2o10b3o21b3o\$1509b3obo2bobo21b2o24bo\$1513b5o25b2o20bo\$1518bo23bo2bo\$1487bo7bo\$1486b3o5bobo43b2o\$1485b2ob4o2bo2bo42bo2bo\$1486b3o2bo49b3o\$1487bo2b2o2bo\$1491b2obobo\$1495bo10b2o18b2o\$1506b2o18b2o94b2o\$1622b2o2\$1507b3o\$1507b3o\$1513b3o\$1511bo3bo\$1509b2obob2o18b2o\$1491bo17bo24b2o\$1490b4o6b2o8b2o\$1489bo4bo4b3ob2o\$1488b2o10b2ob3o4bo\$1489bobob2o4b3ob2o3b4o\$1490b3o6b2o7b2o2bo\$1491bo15bo4bo\$1506b2obob2o\$1505b4o129b2o\$1505b4o129b2o\$1508b2o\$1494b2o13b2o\$1494b2o12bo2\$1504b3o2\$1502bo4bo\$1502bo\$1506b2o\$1503b2ob2o\$1505bo4\$1654b2o\$1654b2o15\$1670b2o\$1670b2o15\$1686b2o\$1686b2o15\$1702b2o\$1702b2o15\$1718b2o\$1718b2o15\$1734b2o\$1734b2o15\$1750b2o\$1750b2o15\$1766b2o\$1766b2o15\$1782b2o\$1782b2o15\$1798b2o\$1798b2o15\$1814b2o\$1814b2o15\$1830b2o\$1830b2o15\$1846b2o\$1846b2o15\$1862b2o\$1862b2o15\$1878b2o\$1878b2o15\$1894b2o\$1894b2o15\$1910b2o\$1910b2o15\$1926b2o\$1926b2o15\$1942b2o\$1942b2o15\$1958b2o\$1958b2o15\$1974b2o\$1974b2o15\$1990b2o\$1990b2o15\$2006b2o\$2006b2o15\$2022b2o\$2022b2o15\$2038b2o\$2038b2o15\$2054b2o\$2054b2o15\$2070b2o\$2070b2o15\$2086b2o\$2086b2o15\$2102b2o\$2102b2o8\$2161bo\$2161bo\$2160bobo\$2161b2o2bo11b2o\$2160bo5bo9bo2bo\$2160bo5bo10b2o\$2160bo4bo12bo\$2118b2o44bo13bo\$2118b2o41b3o13b2obo\$2176b2o\$2180bo\$2159b2ob2o12bob3o4b2o\$2164bo12bo2bo4b2o\$2159b2o16b3o\$2161b3o3\$2177bo\$2176b3o\$2175bob3o\$2175bo\$2176b5o15bo\$2179bob2o14b2o\$2134b2o29b2o9bo3bobo\$2134b2o29b2o16bo\$2182bo\$2175bo6bo\$2153bobo19bo3b2o\$2153b3o19bobo\$2153b2o11bobo5b2o\$2168bo5b2obo\$2161b2o3b3o2b4o2bo\$2156bo4b2o3bo5bo2b3o\$2154bobo8b2o\$2154b3o7bo\$2157bo7b2o\$2153b5o3\$2150b2o\$2150b2o29bo2b2o\$2180bobobo2bo\$2179b2ob3o3bo\$2179bo2bo2bo\$2178b2ob2ob2obo\$2178bo2bo2b4o\$2179b2o3b2o\$2158b2o15b2o\$2158b2o15bobo\$2177bo\$2172bo2b3o\$2171bob2o\$2171bob2o\$2172bo10\$2174b2o\$2174b2o6\$2189b2o\$2189b2o8\$2190b2o\$2190b2o6\$2205b2o\$2205b2o8\$2206b2o\$2206b2o6\$2221b2o\$2221b2o8\$2222b2o\$2222b2o6\$2237b2o\$2237b2o8\$2238b2o\$2238b2o6\$2253b2o\$2253b2o128bo\$2379b4ob2o5b3o\$2378b2ob3ob2o4b3o\$2379bob3obo7b2o\$2380bo3b4o4b2o\$2383b2ob3o\$2384b5o13b2o\$2385bo16b2o\$2254b2o\$2254b2o5\$2410b2o\$2269b2o127b3ob3o5b2o\$2269b2o119bo6b4obo2bo\$2387b2o4bo2bobo\$2382b2o5b2o3bo10bo\$2382b2o7bob2o3b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EDIT As for synthesis gun, I think to write script that will generate gun from synth, is much simpler than to write script that generates G->Synth converter using herschel tracks. I do think both are possible, but the first one is much more simple than the other.

As for auto scripting UC recipe from synth, using blockic, it's sounds like a major project on it's own right.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

Here is something similar:

`x = 71, y = 43, rule = B3/S236\$25b3o\$24bo3bo\$24bo3bo\$24bo3bo12b3o\$41b3o\$14b3o8b2ob2o9b2o4bo\$13bo3bo8bo2bo9b3obobo\$12bo3b2o9bobo10b2o3bo\$13bo14b2o10b5o\$14b4o7bo3bo12bo7b2o\$16bob2o4bobobobo19b2o\$16bo2bo5bo\$17b2o2\$40b2o2bo2\$16bo23bo3bo\$16bo6b3o14bo17b3o\$15bobo11b2o10bobo9bo\$16bo11bo2bo19b2obo\$16b2o11bobo9b3o7bo2bo\$16b3o11bo20b3o2\$14bo4b2o\$14bo5bo11b2o\$14bo5bo10bo2bo16b2o\$19bo12b2o16bobo\$51bo2\$58b2o3\$19b2o\$19b2o!`

Which can be used for something like:

`x = 171, y = 100, rule = B3/S2349bo\$48bobo\$47b2ob2o\$47b2o16b2o\$53b2o9bo2bo\$47b3o2bo12bo2bo\$51bob2o\$34bo14bo2bo\$34bo17bo11bo\$34bo8bo6b2o11b2o3bo\$41bobo20bo3b2o\$35b3o2bo3bo5bo13bobob2o3b2o\$36bob5o5b2ob2o11bo3b2o3b2o\$42bo8bo13b3o\$37b2o9bo16b3o\$50bo\$74b3o2\$47bo16bo8bobobo4bo\$47bo15b3o6bo5bob3o\$47bo4b2o12bo\$51bo2bo8b2ob2o2b2o7bobo\$52bobo7b2ob2o13b2o\$45bo7bo8b2ob2o\$44b4o15bo2bo\$42b5obo15b3o7b3o\$36b3o2bo6b2o5b2o7b2o7bo3bo\$40bo3bob3o5bo2bo\$41bobo2b2o7b2o16b2ob2o\$75bo8\$24b3o\$23bo3bo10bo\$24b2o15b2o\$o25b2ob2o\$o27b2o42bo\$ob3o66bobo\$2b3o66b2o\$3bo13b3o\$3b2o\$4bo\$4b2o13bo\$18b2o\$b2ob2o11b3o6b2o52bo\$2b3o12bo8b2o51bobo\$2bo12bo63b2o\$15bo3b2o10b3o\$19b2o\$16bo\$17bo2bo\$17b3o\$40bobo45bo\$40b2o45bobo\$41bo45b2o2\$6b2o\$6b2o141bobo\$140bob3o4bobo\$138b2obo4bo5bo\$96bo43b2o4bo2bo2bo\$95bobo48bo2bo2bo\$95b2o48bo4bo\$141bo2bo16b2o\$14b2o126b2o17b2o\$14b2o3\$104bo\$103bobo\$103b2o\$169b2o\$169b2o\$156bobo2b2o\$142bo4bobo6bo2b2o2bo\$141bobo2b2o2b2o7b2o2bo\$112bo28bob4o2bobo5b2o2bobo\$111bobo28bo6bobo\$111b2o33bob3o4\$134b3o6bo\$135b2o3b2obo5b2o\$24bobo93bo13b2o5bobo5b2o\$24b2o93bobo17b3obo\$25bo93b2o21b2o2\$152bo\$152bo\$152bo2\$128bo\$127bobo\$127b2o!`

Anyway it's nice to have two engines generate something like this.

EDIT

Here is a use more suited to this context:

`x = 581, y = 557, rule = B3/S2347\$35b2o\$35b2o15\$51b2o\$51b2o15\$67b2o\$67b2o15\$83b2o\$83b2o15\$99b2o\$99b2o15\$115b2o\$115b2o15\$131b2o\$131b2o15\$147b2o\$147b2o12\$205bo\$204bobo\$203b2ob2o\$163b2o38b2o16b2o\$163b2o44b2o9bo2bo\$203b3o2bo12bo2bo\$207bob2o\$190bo14bo2bo\$190bo17bo11bo\$190bo8bo6b2o11b2o3bo\$197bobo20bo3b2o\$191b3o2bo3bo5bo13bobob2o3b2o\$192bob5o5b2ob2o11bo3b2o3b2o\$198bo8bo13b3o\$193b2o9bo16b3o\$206bo\$230b3o2\$203bo16bo8bobobo4bo\$179b2o22bo15b3o6bo5bob3o\$179b2o22bo4b2o12bo\$207bo2bo8b2ob2o2b2o7bobo\$208bobo7b2ob2o13b2o\$201bo7bo8b2ob2o\$200b4o15bo2bo\$198b5obo15b3o7b3o\$192b3o2bo6b2o5b2o7b2o7bo3bo\$196bo3bob3o5bo2bo\$197bobo2b2o7b2o16b2ob2o\$231bo6\$195b2o\$195b2o5\$208b2o18bo\$208b2o17bobo\$227b2o6\$236bo\$235bobo\$211b2o22b2o\$211b2o5\$224b2o18bo\$224b2o17bobo\$243b2o6\$252bo\$251bobo\$227b2o22b2o\$227b2o2\$314b2o\$310b2o3bo\$299b3o7bo6bo\$240b2o18bo41b3o5bo3b5o\$240b2o17bobo40b3o6bo3bo\$259b2o42bo11bo2bo\$316b2o7b2o\$325b2o4\$268bo\$267bobo56bo\$243b2o22b2o57b2o\$243b2o79b2o2bo4b2o\$322bo4b2o4b2o\$323b2o\$323bo\$305b2o6bo2b2obo\$180bobo73b2o18bo28b2o5bo3bo3b2o\$180b2o74b2o17bobo34bo3b3obo\$181bo93b2o41b2o3\$300bo\$301bob2obobo\$295b3o3b4o3bo4b2o\$284bo16bo2b2ob2o4b2o\$283bobo14bo\$259b2o22b2o13b3o\$259b2o37b3o2\$315b3o3\$272b2o18bo\$272b2o17bobo\$291b2o8\$275b2o\$275b2o5\$288b2o\$288b2o9\$291b2o\$291b2o5\$304b2o\$304b2o9\$307b2o\$307b2o5\$148bobo169b2o\$148b2o170b2o\$149bo8\$323b2o\$323b2o5\$336b2o\$336b2o9\$339b2o\$339b2o5\$352b2o\$352b2o9\$355b2o\$355b2o5\$368b2o\$368b2o9\$371b2o\$371b2o5\$116bobo265b2o\$116b2o266b2o\$117bo8\$387b2o\$387b2o5\$400b2o\$400b2o9\$403b2o\$403b2o5\$416b2o\$416b2o9\$419b2o\$419b2o5\$432b2o\$432b2o9\$435b2o\$435b2o5\$84bobo361b2o\$84b2o362b2o\$85bo8\$451b2o\$451b2o5\$464b2o\$464b2o9\$467b2o\$467b2o5\$480b2o\$480b2o9\$483b2o\$483b2o5\$496b2o\$496b2o9\$499b2o\$499b2o5\$52bobo457b2o\$52b2o458b2o\$53bo8\$515b2o\$515b2o5\$528b2o\$528b2o9\$531b2o\$531b2o!`

EDIT2 Just for the record here is another two engine puffer that can convert block into glider:

`x = 99, y = 59, rule = B3/S232o\$2o21\$72b3o\$72bobo\$72b3o\$88b2o\$87bo2b2o\$74b2o11b2ob2o\$72b2ob2o14bo\$72b2o2b2o10b2o\$48bo22b2o3b2o11bo7b2o\$47bobo22b2o2b2o19b2o\$46bo3bo13b3o6bobo\$46bo3bo8bo\$46bobob3o4b2ob3o18b2o\$47b2obo2bo5bob2o18b2o\$51bobo8bo26b3o\$51b2o11bo2bo12bo5b3obo\$64b3o10bo3bo5b2ob2o\$72bo4bo4bo4b2ob2o\$71bo9b2o6bo\$70b2o\$76b3o\$76bobo13bo\$77b2o13b2o\$91bobo\$85b2o\$85b2o\$65b3o\$53b2o9bo3bo\$53b2o9bo3bo\$65b3o27bo\$95bo\$95bo4\$61b2o\$61b2o!`
Last edited by simsim314 on November 6th, 2014, 4:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

Here is a more complex signal reader.

`x = 4691, y = 4692, rule = 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Notice the second "crowler" shows reusability, notice also that after a "reading head" had passed the "block tape" remains on the same diagonal, but moved to some odd number.

EDIT Small fix:

`x = 2292, y = 2197, rule = 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EDIT2 Now here is a question (for computer science freaks): instead of thinking immediately on slow salvo, we should first figure out a way how to use the spacing in the tape for coding operations. In very limited view, each "reading head" will shoot the same gliders at some constant distance. This is pretty useless by its own - we need to figure out some sort of Turing completeness, to allow information pass back and forth. Think of changing the tape by a pass of a head beforehand, two heads that shoot glider to some remote head and disable/enable it etc. This is the general direction, but we need a concrete and very explicit (preferably simple) set of coding operations for coding design.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

I'm not exactly sure what to do with this and how to code information, but here is a "tape" reader that can convert empty spaces into gliders, with only 6 2-engine puffers (or 3 extendable 4-engines). This design assumes that 2 - extendable 2 engines are better than 3 or 4 engines, as the synchronous dried salvo operation will require less blocks.

`x = 3620, y = 3620, rule = 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It should be noticed that synchronization is required for the "glider eater". If one want to allow totally "asynchronous" construction (with step of 16 of course), one could add another engine pair from the previous design for the glider eater.

Another point is that simple 4 engine tape reader can work for a knightship, the addition was made to make it travel diagonally.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

simsim314 wrote:I'm not exactly sure what to do with this and how to code information, but here is a "tape" reader that can convert empty spaces into gliders, with only 6 2-engine puffers (or 3 extendable 4-engines). This design assumes that 2 - extendable 2 engines are better than 3 or 4 engines, as the synchronous dried salvo operation will require less blocks.

So just to make sure I'm understanding this right: this would be a component in a very slow spaceship that moves southeast at (5,5)c/bignumber or (0,10)c/bignumber, correct? Strange to think of this thing possibly being an orthogonal spaceship.

simsim314 wrote:Another point is that simple 4 engine tape reader can work for a knightship, the addition was made to make it travel diagonally.

What would the step be for the knightship variant? The tape reader inverts the tape while reading it, so don't you need some kind of re-inverter to complete a cycle?

I tried two mirror-image options in an experiment at turning the gliders toward the back of the spaceship -- probably useless, though something will have to be done back there to destroy tape readers just when they get to the tape. Or do I have everything backwards?

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I haven't seen how to do the construction coding yet, though I suppose several tape readers could run in parallel and line up synchronized salvos somehow. Seems as if it will be hard to get enough timing variability for a universal toolkit...? No doubt the necessary clever tricks are out there somewhere, but I don't see them yet.

I really put in the above glider-turner attachment with the idea of sending a pattern of gliders ahead of the tape reader, to rebuild the same pattern of blocks somehow and repeat a cycle that way. But of course that would result in just a huge c/12 spaceship, or a puffer or replicator or whatever if it's building things off to the side as it moves along.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

dvgrn wrote:The tape reader inverts the tape while reading it, so don't you need some kind of re-inverter to complete a cycle?

Woops you right so just forget about the knightship.

dvgrn wrote:this would be a component in a very slow spaceship that moves southeast at (5,5)c/bignumber

Now I see the picture a bit more clearly, so let me elaborate. This is a component in adjustable speed diagonal caterpillar. Just in regular caterpillar you have "dumb tape of blinkers" with information based inside the "reading heads". David Bell suggested to kinda swap the roles. The "passive" tape will contain the information, and the reading heads would be very "dumb" and run in cycles. The caterpillar will send gliders forward using slow salvo creating a helix that burns and creates another reading head in its front. Obviously (5,5) is not enough, so we need some "cheap" inverter that makes the step very big (or use 3 of the current heads which makes the mechanism a bit too big, but maybe there is a way to reuse the same mechanism, only with addition of extra glider stream blocker 2 out of 3 times - this is still unknown).

David was thinking of this mechanism for *WSS, Hartmut raised the topic again, and suggested the use of slow salvo, and codeholic suggested doing it with c/12 technology. This new 2 engine discovery was the trigger.

I hope to demonstrate some slow salvo construction soon. But for discussion lets say we have blocks with step of 15 and a head that moves the blocks by (15, 15). So obviously each new head that passes will send a glider to the next block. Now if we have a "hole" in tape at distance 8 * N, this will allow all the slow salvo combinations (mod 15).

So it's basically "inverted" caterpillar idea, that allows adjustable speed, and some huge amount of gliders sent to the front to creating a reading head. The tail wasn't discussed yet, but my guess is doing some negative speed helix as well.

EDIT Here is an actual example, that might clarify few things. Notice the blocks row spaced 15 to the right of the track. Each "reading head" perform an operation on it (just like in regular caterpillar):

`x = 6907, y = 6907, rule = 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This particular caterpillar moves at speed (15,15)/5952. But as far as I understand from the point this sort of caterpillar will be built, anything that is slower than that and has the same step will work (i.e. (15,15)/(5952 + k)).
Last edited by simsim314 on November 7th, 2014, 6:05 pm, edited 2 times in total.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

Small update. I've run a small script, and here is all available (for now at least) inverters.

`x = 1361, y = 685, rule = 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From what is relevant the best inverter without glider moves the blocks by 8, and glider emitting inverter moves the blocks by 7. Putting it all together: 15 cell move, hopefully enough for slow salvo (just to emit glider). With 20 switch engines (which is pretty large amount, but it's all there is - and they divided into 10 - independent 2 switch engines components that can be extended as we wish).

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

There is also this:
`x = 408, y = 336, rule = B3/S2310b2o\$2o7bo2bo\$2o7bobo\$10bo45\$58b2o\$48b2o7bo2bo\$48b2o7bobo\$58bo29\$90b2o\$80b2o7bo2bo\$80b2o7bobo\$90bo13\$106b2o\$96b2o7bo2bo\$96b2o7bobo\$106bo45\$154b2o\$144b2o7bo2bo\$144b2o7bobo\$154bo13\$170b2o\$160b2o7bo2bo\$160b2o7bobo\$170bo29\$202b2o\$192b2o7bo2bo\$192b2o7bobo\$202bo15\$306b3o\$307bo\$307bo2bo\$307bo2bo\$308bobo\$323b2o\$323b2o3\$307bo\$306bobo\$307bo\$324bo\$323bo7b2o\$305b4o22b2o\$305b2o3bo10bo\$306bo4bo9bobo\$308bob2o10bo\$309bo\$378bo2\$317bobob2o51bo7bo\$300bo16bobo54bo8bo2b3o\$299b3o17bo2bo50bo4b2o3bo2b3o\$318bo3bo51bobo6bo2b2o2bo\$299b3o16b4o2b2o48bob2o10bobo\$300b2ob2o14bo5b2o61b3o\$302bo21bo54bo18b2o\$398b2o2\$250b2o24b3o\$240b2o7bo2bo24bo\$240b2o7bobo25bo2bo\$250bo26bo2bo\$278bobo118bo\$293b2o102b2obo5b2o\$293b2o100b2obob2o4b2o\$299bo97bo\$298b3o85b2o4b2obo\$277bo19b2ob2o76b2o8b2obo\$276bobo18bobo78b2o5b3obob4o\$277bo19bo92bo2\$383b3o\$275b4o105b2o\$275b2o3bo13bo71b2o7b2o3bob3o\$276bo4bo11bobo70b3o6b3o2bob3o\$278bob2o11bo72b2obobo\$279bo15b2o72b2o\$296bo\$293b3o\$294b2o\$291bo\$291b2o\$291b2o\$281b2o6b2o\$281b2o4b2o\$287b2obo\$289b2o\$378b2o\$363bo14b2o\$362bobo\$361b2ob2o\$289b2o70b2o\$289b2o76b2o\$361b3o2bo\$365bob2o\$363bo2bo19b2o\$366bo19b2o\$364b2o2\$364bo\$362b2ob2o\$365bo\$362bo\$364bo2\$353bo\$352bobo5bo\$358b2ob2o\$352b3o2bo3b2o\$358b2ob2o\$358b4o5\$336bo\$335bobo\$334bo3bo37bo\$335bobo37bo\$336bo8b2o28b3o\$344bo2bo\$336b4o5b2o\$335bo4bo\$337bo\$334bo3bo2bo\$334bob3obo\$335b3obo\$353b2o\$352bo2bo\$353b2o7\$340b2o\$340b2o7\$348b2o\$348b2o4\$360bo\$359bo\$359b3o\$356b2o\$356b2o!`

Unfortunately, the minimum distance for it to be repeated is 16, not 8. However, if you ever want to extract an occasional glider, this would do it.
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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

Extrementhusiast wrote:There is also this... [transparent-loaf glider extracter]

Yikes, another transparent loaf... makes me wonder again what could be found with modern CPU power, if someone tried a fresh search for useful transparent-junk reactions. It doesn't seem as if many attempts have ever been made to find transparent boats, for example. And really I bet there are transparent half-blockade reactions all over the place, waiting to be found, and transparent honeyfarms and so forth.

This loaf-and-block catalyst wouldn't work too well for the kind of spaceship being discussed, though, where the still lifes have to change position slightly with each passing Cordership -- the constellation is a bit too awkward to be moved easily. Anyway, the old one-tub glider extractor only needs a single Cordership, and can be repeated at 8fd distance instead of 16fd:

`x = 143, y = 99, rule = B3/S23109b2o2bo\$112bobo\$111bo16bo\$128bo\$113b2o13bo2\$114b2o12b2o\$113bo13bo2bo\$111b2ob2o11bobo6b2o\$114b2o10b2o8b2o\$112bo13bo\$129b2o\$129b2o\$129b2o\$bo124b2obo\$obo124b3o\$bo126bo\$122bo15b2o\$121bobo13b6o\$124bo12b3o2bo\$116b2o2b2obo16b3o\$116b2o5bobo6b3o\$9bo113bobo8bo\$8bobo95bo15bo3bo7bo\$9bo93b4o14b2o7bob2o\$121b2ob2o3b2o\$123bo2\$106bobo\$107bo\$105b2o12bobo\$105bo2bo11bo\$104b2ob2o\$101bo\$100b2o\$99bob2o\$99bo2b2o\$97b4ob3o\$96bo2bobo2b2o\$97bobobob3o\$98b2ob3obo10b2o\$98b4o2bobo9b2o\$101bo3bo\$101bo3bo\$101bo2bo4\$124b2o\$102b2o20b2o5\$107b2o\$106bo2bo\$106bo2b2o\$98b2o5bo2b2o\$98b2o5b4o\$85b2o7b2o\$85b3o6b3o\$85b2obobo\$49bo38b2o\$48bobo\$49bo23b3o\$74bo\$74bo2bo\$74bo2bo\$75bobo4\$83b2o\$74bo7bo2bo\$73bobo7b2o\$74bo\$109bo\$107b2o\$72b4o32b2o\$72b2o3bo\$73bo4bo12b2o\$75bob2o11bo2bo\$76bo14b2o7\$78b2o\$78b2o7\$86b2o\$86b2o!`

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

dvgrn wrote:Anyway, the old one-tub glider extractor only needs a single Cordership, and can be repeated at 8fd distance instead of 16fd:

Unfortunately, for this application we need not only transparency but also movement, this is why blocks will probably work best here.

But you have a valid point, we might need to search for transparency (with diagonal movement) instead of two inverters, at least for this application. My guess is diagonal movement is pretty rare, this is why I required two units, not only to invert but also to move diagonally.

And for this ship, we need to move it pretty far away for the slow salvo, so movement less than 10 will require some additions.

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### Re: Four engine extendable Cordership

dvgrn wrote:
Extrementhusiast wrote:There is also this... [transparent-loaf glider extracter]

Yikes, another transparent loaf...

No, it's the same transparent loaf as the one in the TFYAD.

EDIT: A block can be used as a heisenburp as well:
`x = 120, y = 97, rule = B3/S2399b2o\$85bo9bo3b3o\$85b4o5bobo2bo\$85bo3bo5bo3bo2bo\$103bo\$87b3o10bobo\$101b2o7b2o\$110b2o5\$111b2o\$111b2o\$110bo2bo4b2o\$110bob2o4b2o\$107b3o\$108b2o\$90b2o9b2o2bo\$90b2o8bo4b2o\$101bobob2o\$103b2o\$94b3o\$93b2o\$78bobo11b2obo\$77b2ob2o11b2o\$78bob2o12bo\$82bo\$81bo\$81bo8\$2o\$2o72b3o13b2o\$74bobo13b2o\$73bo3bo\$73bo3bo\$73bo\$73bo4b2o\$73bo6bo\$74bo5bo\$74b2o22b2o\$76bo3bo17b2o\$77bobo3\$74b3o\$73bo3bo\$16b2o56bo2bo\$16b2o58b2o2\$65bo7bo\$64b3o5bobo\$63b2ob4o2bo2bo\$64b3o2bo\$65bo2b2o2bo\$24b2o43b2obobo\$24b2o47bo3\$47b3o2\$45bo5bo\$45b7o\$47bo39bo\$47bo3bo5b2o27bo\$46bo9bo2bo26b3o\$47bo9b2o\$48bo4bo\$48bo4bo\$47b2obobo\$46bobo\$47bo\$65b2o\$64bo2bo\$65b2o7\$52b2o\$52b2o7\$60b2o\$60b2o!`
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