What it is like to be a hassler?

[MEisSCAMMER]

I kind of think that Tanner's p46 could quasi-reasonably be called a quasi-shuttle; it's more reasonable than calling a still life a "p1 oscillator", but that doesn't mean that it's really a good thing to call it.

I'm inclined to agree with you on this case; if we have this many "quasi"s in a row, it's probably a sign that the term isn't extremely useful. I do think that Tanner's p46 can be classified as a "hassler" but I'm not sure anyone is going to contest that. Worth throwing out though.

[confocaloid]

EDIT: does xp63_y98kkjap5q88q5pajkk8zyc102216612201y6o8gzycgjlk6556kljgy6o8bqzwggy7haaq2deed2qaahy36221y04e96zwhgnky511y1gy011y3g8gy68k8zc45201w8sicy5343y91xggz0gy7g8gy8cicy53431wogkq23z121y71y4o80gy2g08oy52egozy06972wg08k46y38lllkb77bklll8zy65t1hy7ca26aa62aczy811y4ggo0k4o66o4k0oggzyh122c59a5115a95c221 count as a HF hassler?

I think yes. But it is also a R-pentomino hassler and a beehive hassler, and one could also simply write 'p63 hassler' without specifying what is the hassled reaction or object, or '352P63' if the minimum population is of interest, or simply 'a p63 oscillator'.

[confocaloid]

There are some scattered claims along the lines of the following:

• https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?diff ... did=146825 "It consists of (such-and-such catalysts) hassling 4 [[R-pentomino]]es or 4 [[honey farm]]s in some phases."
• https://conwaylife.com/w/index.php?oldid=134547 "Honey farm is a common constellation of four beehives and is one of the familiar fours. It can be hassled in many ways."

I think such claims are incorrect. The honey farm is a stable constellation (a p1 pattern). Most oscillators described as "honey farm hasslers" so far actually hassle predecessors of the honey farm.

(Even though it's possible to engineer an actual honey farm hassler, which would hassle the constellation by hitting it with a spark, I don't remember seeing any reasonably small interesting examples of such oscillators.)

[Sokwe]

I recently requested that the capped p37 gun be added to the honey farm hasslers wiki page, but I now see that it, like the old p6 honey farm "hassler", is actually a mutual stabilizer. It seemed like we came to the conclusion a while back that such things aren't "true" hasslers. In the p37 case I can contrive a "true" hassler using a gun and the p37 LoM hassler:

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x = 86, y = 97, rule = B3/S23
49bo$31b2o14b3o$32bo13bo$32bobo11b2o$33b2o2$39bo$38b2o$37b2obo$38bo2bo
14b2o$39b3o14bo$33b2o5bo13bobo$32bobo13bo5b2o$32bo14b3o$31b2o14bo2bo$
48bob2o$49b2o$49bo3$41b2o22b2o$42bo22bo11bo$39b3o21bobo9b3o$39bo13bo9b
2o9bo$52b3o19b2o$51b2ob2o16b3o$8b2o40b3ob3o15b2o$7bo2bo40b2ob2o17b2o$
8bobo36b2o3b3o18bo$9bo26b2o8bobo4bo14b3obo$36bobo7bo21b3o13b2o$10b2o
26bo2b2o2b2o37bo$13b2o14b2o6b2obobo18b2o19bobo$8b2obo20b2o4bobo19bobo
19b2o$2o6b2o3bob2o10b2obo7bob2o18bo$o2bob2ob2obo3b2o10b2o3bob2ob2obo2b
o15b2o13b3o$2b2obo7bob2o10b2obo3b2o6b2o3bo24bob3o$3bobo4b2o20bob2o10bo
24bo$bobob2o6b2o14b2o15b3o21b2o$b2o2bo26b2o37b2o$5bobo62b3o9b2o$6b2o
26bo34b2o11bobo$33bobo34bo13bo$33bo2bo30b3o14b2o$34b2o31bo2$27bo9bobo$
27b3o7b2o$30bo7bo$29b2o4$13b2o$9b2o3bo$9bo2bo$10b4o18b3o$31bo3bo$8b6o
16bo5bo$7bo2bo2bo16bo5bo$7b2o12bo8bo5bo$20bobo8bo3bo2b2o$19bo2bo9b3o3b
obo$14bo5b2o18bo$16bo23b2o$13b2obo$13bo13b2o$27b2o7b2o$15b2o19bobo$12b
ob2obo20bo$12bob2o22b2o9$11b2obo$9bob2obo$10b2o2$13bo$10bob2o$10bo$5b
2o5bo$4bo2bo$4bobo$5bo12b2o$13bo2bo2bo$13b6o2$13b4o$14bo2bo$12bo3b2o$
12b2o!

By removing the honey farm predecessor, it's easy to see that none of the outer components are dependent on it. However, this feels like cheating. Should something like this be included on the honey farm hasslers page instead of the smaller capped p37 glider gun? Does anyone know of a more elegant way to make a "true" p37 honey farm hassler?