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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby A for awesome » May 19th, 2019, 10:30 am

The page for the Schick Engine lists two C1 soups, but both links point to the same soup (the original one). Meanwhile, the xq12 tabulation lists only one occurrence, as expected.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » May 20th, 2019, 7:29 am

That's because of me, I tested catagolue evilly for a hypthetical bug and resubmitted the Schick engine haul but with a different seed root. It was promptly fixed by calcyman

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Ian07 » June 12th, 2019, 3:39 pm

A 12G synthesis for xs17_8p7gs26z23 was submitted to Catagolue and according to this job log was processed correctly:
x = 180, y = 61, rule = B3/S23
115bo$114bo$114b3o$54bo$55b2o$54b2o$135bo$135bobo$135b2o12$78bo$76bobo
$77b2o9$4bo$3bo$3b3o$bo$2bo$3o78b2o$81b2o90b2o$174bo$89b2o83bob2o$85b
2o2bobo81b2o2bo$84bobo2bo85bobobo$86bo88bo2b2o$170b3ob2o3$164b3o$105b
2o59bo$24b2o78bo2bo57bo$23bobo79b2o$25bo$27b2o145bo$27bobo144bo$27bo
146bo2$170b3o3$172b3o$172bo$173bo!


Despite this, the object page still has an obsolete 33G synthesis:
#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]
#CSYNTH xs17_8p7gs26z23 costs 33 gliders (true).
#CLL state-numbering golly
x = 254, y = 41, rule = B3/S23
86bobo$86b2o$87bo$95bo149bo$95bobo145bobo$95b2o147b2o5bobo$239bobo
9b2o$152bo87b2o10bo$150b2o88bo$151b2o$253bo$24bo226b2o$23bo63bo10b
o39b2o46b2o48b2o14b2o$23b3o60bobo8bo41bo2bo9b3o32bo2bo46bo2bo$86bo
bo8b3o39bobobo8bo34bobobo45bobobo$77b3o4b2o2b2o47b2o2b2o10bo31b2o
2bobo43b2o2bobo$79bo3bobobo48bobobo45bobobo45bobobo5b2o$78bo5bo2bo
7b2o40bo2bo9b2o34bobo7bo39bobo6bobo$28bobo56b2o6bobo42b2o7b2o34b2o
b2o6b2o3b2o32b2ob2o5b2o$28b2o65bo55bo43bobo3bobo47b2o$29bo106b2o
63bo49bobo$132bo3bobo112bo$130bobo3bo$23b2o106b2o65b3o$22b2o64b2o
110bo33b3o13b2o$12bo11bo64b2o108bo36bo13bobo$13b2o73bo146bo3b2o9bo
$12b2o12bo212bobo$25b2o212bo$25bobo2$13b3o$15bo29bo$14bo3b2o24b2o$
3o16b2o23bobo$2bo15bo$bo20b3o$24bo$23bo6b2o$29b2o$31bo!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby A for awesome » June 13th, 2019, 5:19 pm

x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 13th, 2019, 6:47 pm


Doublespam; one person is searching it too much with minimal-size hauls every 30 seconds, and the other has a spammy name.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » June 13th, 2019, 11:34 pm

The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get

EDIT: look at it again
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 14th, 2019, 7:33 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get

EDIT: look at it again


Alright, but next time make the long name less spammy
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Ian07 » June 19th, 2019, 1:59 pm

Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 19th, 2019, 2:02 pm

Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census

How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby calcyman » June 19th, 2019, 5:58 pm

Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census


Fixed in commit b77841d9: https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... cec76069fe

Moosey wrote:... even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?


By telling Catagolue that you found 10^15 instances of a particular object. (You couldn't get away with this in a real census, because there are statistical tests and peer-validation and so forth...)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » June 20th, 2019, 12:46 am

Moosey wrote:
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census

How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?


THAT WAS NOT ME
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 20th, 2019, 7:17 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:
Moosey wrote:
Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census

How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?


THAT WAS NOT ME

Oh, sorry!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » June 20th, 2019, 2:27 pm

Moosey wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:
Moosey wrote:How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects?


THAT WAS NOT ME

Oh, sorry!


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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby _zM » June 20th, 2019, 6:04 pm

User pages are back up.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby calcyman » June 20th, 2019, 8:03 pm

_zM wrote:User pages are back up.


Yes, they were down due to an integer overflow problem, and I've deleted the offending censuses (as well as implementing provisions to prevent a repeat of this).
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » June 20th, 2019, 9:27 pm

The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 21st, 2019, 7:16 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23

@calcyman:
Is there any way to block that specific person?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » June 21st, 2019, 10:02 am

And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Ian07 » June 21st, 2019, 12:53 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1


The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Moosey » June 21st, 2019, 12:57 pm

Ian07 wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone? :|

I guess that puts X3VI as #1


The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2

I refer to them as Uploady mcGetYourOwnSymmetry (or just “Uploady”), if we need a unique name for these Sakagolue/Snowflakes/thatothersymmetry trolls (apparently there are multiple, forming a (according to Uploady II) “Nice coding community”. I think we can all agree that at least the first word doesn’t apply very well here. What kind of kind people ruin someone's Symmetry?)
Also, why does X3VI need to be #1 again?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby testitemqlstudop » June 21st, 2019, 8:33 pm

OK, look, if this gets serious to the point where a whole rule with 700G objects is getting broken, Uploady II needs to be IP-banned. (And is there a way to remove the "ylwarning" from the census?)

It is possible to reject all hauls that don't pass:
1. a soup/object ratio consistency check
2. an object well-formedness check
3. a top 5 most common object identicality check

Spamming censuses are an effective way of getting attention, anyhow... negative attention.

(And why do I think majestas did it?)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Naszvadi » June 26th, 2019, 4:52 am

A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Ian07 » June 26th, 2019, 11:57 am

Naszvadi wrote:A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4

This is an artifact of a now-fixed bug in apgsearch which I think caused it to search a different rule than intended? I'm not sure of the specifics but I remember that it affected the Morley census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b368s245/C1

Notice in Morley that the xs1 tabulation is displayed but is completely empty, and that some of the larger still life tabulations also contain fake objects.
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