## Catagolue Oddities

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

The page for the Schick Engine lists two C1 soups, but both links point to the same soup (the original one). Meanwhile, the xq12 tabulation lists only one occurrence, as expected.
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

That's because of me, I tested catagolue evilly for a hypthetical bug and resubmitted the Schick engine haul but with a different seed root. It was promptly fixed by calcyman

Source: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=3061&start=200#p74935

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

A 12G synthesis for xs17_8p7gs26z23 was submitted to Catagolue and according to this job log was processed correctly:
x = 180, y = 61, rule = B3/S23115bo$114bo$114b3o$54bo$55b2o$54b2o$135bo$135bobo$135b2o12$78bo$76bobo$77b2o9$4bo$3bo$3b3o$bo$2bo$3o78b2o$81b2o90b2o$174bo$89b2o83bob2o$85b2o2bobo81b2o2bo$84bobo2bo85bobobo$86bo88bo2b2o$170b3ob2o3$164b3o$105b2o59bo$24b2o78bo2bo57bo$23bobo79b2o$25bo$27b2o145bo$27bobo144bo$27bo146bo2$170b3o3$172b3o$172bo$173bo!

Despite this, the object page still has an obsolete 33G synthesis:
#C [[ GRID MAXGRIDSIZE 14 THEME Catagolue ]]#CSYNTH xs17_8p7gs26z23 costs 33 gliders (true).#CLL state-numbering gollyx = 254, y = 41, rule = B3/S2386bobo$86b2o$87bo$95bo149bo$95bobo145bobo$95b2o147b2o5bobo$239bobo9b2o$152bo87b2o10bo$150b2o88bo$151b2o$253bo$24bo226b2o$23bo63bo10bo39b2o46b2o48b2o14b2o$23b3o60bobo8bo41bo2bo9b3o32bo2bo46bo2bo$86bobo8b3o39bobobo8bo34bobobo45bobobo$77b3o4b2o2b2o47b2o2b2o10bo31b2o2bobo43b2o2bobo$79bo3bobobo48bobobo45bobobo45bobobo5b2o$78bo5bo2bo7b2o40bo2bo9b2o34bobo7bo39bobo6bobo$28bobo56b2o6bobo42b2o7b2o34b2ob2o6b2o3b2o32b2ob2o5b2o$28b2o65bo55bo43bobo3bobo47b2o$29bo106b2o63bo49bobo$132bo3bobo112bo$130bobo3bo$23b2o106b2o65b3o$22b2o64b2o110bo33b3o13b2o$12bo11bo64b2o108bo36bo13bobo$13b2o73bo146bo3b2o9bo$12b2o12bo212bobo$25b2o212bo$25bobo2$13b3o$15bo29bo$14bo3b2o24b2o$3o16b2o23bobo$2bo15bo$bo20b3o$24bo$23bo6b2o$29b2o$31bo! Ian07 Posts: 285 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Catagolue Oddities x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1862 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Doublespam; one person is searching it too much with minimal-size hauls every 30 seconds, and the other has a spammy name. I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Moosey Posts: 2122 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. ### Re: Catagolue Oddities The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get EDIT: look at it again testitemqlstudop Posts: 972 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: very very very very boats ### Re: Catagolue Oddities testitemqlstudop wrote:The long name is me, I wanted to test how long the names can get EDIT: look at it again Alright, but next time make the long name less spammy I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Moosey Posts: 2122 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. ### Re: Catagolue Oddities testitemqlstudop Posts: 972 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: very very very very boats ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census Ian07 Posts: 285 Joined: September 22nd, 2018, 8:48 am ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Moosey Posts: 2122 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census Fixed in commit b77841d9: https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/catagolue/ ... cec76069fe Moosey wrote:... even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? By telling Catagolue that you found 10^15 instances of a particular object. (You couldn't get away with this in a real census, because there are statistical tests and peer-validation and so forth...) What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic! calcyman Posts: 2072 Joined: June 1st, 2009, 4:32 pm ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Moosey wrote: Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME testitemqlstudop Posts: 972 Joined: July 21st, 2016, 11:45 am Location: very very very very boats ### Re: Catagolue Oddities testitemqlstudop wrote: Moosey wrote: Ian07 wrote:Someone's trolling again: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME Oh, sorry! I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions My CA rules can be found here Also, the tree game Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?" Moosey Posts: 2122 Joined: January 27th, 2019, 5:54 pm Location: A house, or perhaps the OCA board. ### Re: Catagolue Oddities Moosey wrote: testitemqlstudop wrote: Moosey wrote:How did testitem even manage to upload a quadrillion objects? THAT WAS NOT ME Oh, sorry! And now the user pages are down: https://catagolue.appspot.com/user/apgoucher@gmx.com Life is hard. Deal with it. My favorite oscillator of all time: x = 7, y = 5, rule = B3/S2-i3-y4i4b3o$6bo$o3b3o$2o\$bo!

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User pages are back up.
Creator of multiple rules that may or may not be what you'd expect

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_zM wrote:User pages are back up.

Yes, they were down due to an integer overflow problem, and I've deleted the offending censuses (as well as implementing provisions to prevent a repeat of this).
What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23

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testitemqlstudop wrote:The same spammer that uploaded to SakaTest is back again:

http://gol.hatsya.co.uk/object/xsInfo_G ... tion/b3s23

@calcyman:
Is there any way to block that specific person?
I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions

My CA rules can be found here

Also, the tree game
Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?"

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And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1

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testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1

The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2
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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

Ian07 wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:And um why is snowflakes C1 gone?

I guess that puts X3VI as #1

The same guy uploaded a troll haul to that census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b2ci ... ommitted=2

I refer to them as Uploady mcGetYourOwnSymmetry (or just “Uploady”), if we need a unique name for these Sakagolue/Snowflakes/thatothersymmetry trolls (apparently there are multiple, forming a (according to Uploady II) “Nice coding community”. I think we can all agree that at least the first word doesn’t apply very well here. What kind of kind people ruin someone's Symmetry?)
Also, why does X3VI need to be #1 again?
I am a prolific creator of many rather pathetic googological functions

My CA rules can be found here

Also, the tree game
Bill Watterson once wrote: "How do soldiers killing each other solve the world's problems?"

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

OK, look, if this gets serious to the point where a whole rule with 700G objects is getting broken, Uploady II needs to be IP-banned. (And is there a way to remove the "ylwarning" from the census?)

It is possible to reject all hauls that don't pass:
1. a soup/object ratio consistency check
2. an object well-formedness check
3. a top 5 most common object identicality check

Spamming censuses are an effective way of getting attention, anyhow... negative attention.

(And why do I think majestas did it?)

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### Re: Catagolue Oddities

A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4

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Naszvadi wrote:A fake glider is listed with rank 1 in logarithmic replicator rule:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b36s245/C1/xq4

This is an artifact of a now-fixed bug in apgsearch which I think caused it to search a different rule than intended? I'm not sure of the specifics but I remember that it affected the Morley census as well: https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b368s245/C1

Notice in Morley that the xs1 tabulation is displayed but is completely empty, and that some of the larger still life tabulations also contain fake objects.
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