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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » April 15th, 2018, 3:45 am

Majestas32 wrote:Theyare both there for me?


For me, the object page for the block-plus-ship says it has a glider synthesis, but when you click on it, it says "invalid pattern" and doesn't show a synthesis.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby cordership3 » May 1st, 2018, 12:26 pm

apgluxe incorrectly classifies both these soups as containing an "ov_p0". Strangely, the ash in both soups is the same set of objects, a block and a xs19_c8bjo33z33.

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-ac3aei4ae6i8/S23-ejq8
bbboboboboobobbo$
bbobbbbbbobobbbo$
obobbooooooobobb$
ooobbbbooboboobb$
bbobbboboobobbob$
obobboboooboboob$
obbobbbboooooobo$
bbooboboobobbbob$
obbbooooobboboob$
obbbobobbobooooo$
obbbobboobbbbbbo$
bbbbobobbbbobbbb$
boobboboooobbbbo$
obbbbobboooobobb$
booboboobobbbooo$
oobbbbbooobooobb!

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2-ac3aei4ae6i8/S23-ejq8
ooobbobooobbobbb$
obbbbobobbboboob$
oobooboobbbobobo$
bbooboobbobbbobo$
booooobboooboobo$
ooobobobobooobbo$
ooboobbbbboobboo$
oboobbboboboobbb$
bboobooobobobobb$
bobbbboooboooobb$
obbbobobbbbobbbb$
ooooooooboboobob$
ooboooobboooobbo$
obooboooobbbbooo$
ooobbbobobbooobo$
bbobbooobbbbobbo!
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby danny » May 5th, 2018, 1:43 pm

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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby muzik » May 28th, 2018, 4:58 pm

Amusingly enough, this still exists:
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs7 ... 4t45s34t58
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 2718281828 » May 29th, 2018, 2:48 pm

Here the two oscillators are not correctly separated:
x = 33, y = 13, rule = B2ik3-jn4ceijk5r/S1e2aci3-k4ty
bo$3o13bo$5o10b3o$3o13bo$bo$27b3o$27b3o$27b3o$24b3o3b3o2$28bo$28bo$28bo!

(.https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2aci3-k4ty)

It should be:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 2aci3-k4ty

This is weird as they are not even close to each other.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » May 29th, 2018, 2:56 pm

Their envelopes overlap causing apgsearch to think it is one object
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby calcyman » May 29th, 2018, 2:59 pm

Their envelopes overlap. There was a rationale for not separating oscillators with overlapping envelopes, which hung on the existence of a Reflectorless Rotating Oscillator.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » May 29th, 2018, 3:21 pm

Or potentially others such as a reflector less flipping osc or reflector less C2 rotating oscillators (semi-RRO's?)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Apple Bottom » June 2nd, 2018, 3:10 am

$ cat [...] | grep -i unban
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3eijkq4i5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2-a3cs12-i/unbanmajestas32_32x32
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3ejkq4i5ar6i7-c/UnbanMajestas32
b2ci3ai4c8s02a3eijkq4iz5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2ci3ai4c8s02ae3ejkq4iz5ar6i7e/UnbanMajestas32
b2-a3cs012-i/UnbanMajestas32
b3s24/UnbanMajestas32
$
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » June 2nd, 2018, 4:13 am

Yep, wwei23 is responsible for those.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » June 6th, 2018, 7:47 pm

Why are the b3s23/C1 backup censuses now showing up in the leaderboard?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby calcyman » June 7th, 2018, 9:24 am

That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » June 7th, 2018, 9:58 am

I blame wwei
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby wwei23 » June 7th, 2018, 3:24 pm

I didn’t actually do it that time. What if you submit soups to a backup?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » June 7th, 2018, 3:48 pm

With a hacced apgsearch? Try it on a movero8 backup census
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby wwei23 » June 7th, 2018, 3:50 pm

calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.

There was s backup of a crack up of a backup.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » June 7th, 2018, 4:09 pm

That was me
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Majestas32 » June 7th, 2018, 5:11 pm

Also double backups show up in the symmetry list for a census CV like movero8 which can be convenient (e.g. on mobile)
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » June 7th, 2018, 5:34 pm

calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.


Now there's five of them on the leaderboard. :roll: They'll go away if you delete the double-backups, right?
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby calcyman » June 7th, 2018, 7:03 pm

77topaz wrote:
calcyman wrote:That's because someone has done the very naughty thing of creating a backup of a backup, and they show up if the number of layers of backup is even.


Now there's five of them on the leaderboard. :roll: They'll go away if you delete the double-backups, right?


Deleted. These annoying backups seem to originate from Huntington, NY.
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » June 7th, 2018, 7:37 pm

calcyman wrote:Deleted. These annoying backups seem to originate from Huntington, NY.


Good. And as for Huntington, NY, that seems suspiciously close to where wwei23 said he lived...
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby danny » June 7th, 2018, 8:05 pm

It may be wise to implement something server-side to stop said double backups from happening. I remember there was a rule (a boring move variant I searched) with a weird phantom symmetry that was showing up in the symmetry list despite being a backup, maybe it's related to it.

Also, wwei and majestas, if you could refrain from posting a combined 7 one liners in a row that would be great
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby 77topaz » June 7th, 2018, 9:58 pm

For future reference, Calcyman has now implemented code to prevent double backups from being possible (he mentioned this on the Discord).
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Re: Catagolue Oddities

Postby Gamedziner » June 8th, 2018, 8:49 am

Why not just make it so that backing up an odd number of backups backs it up twice? Then it would always go from odd to odd.
x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory
58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.
A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A
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