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## Thread for your unsure discoveries

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Now this is almost slightly interesting:

x = 6, y = 13, rule = B3/S23ob2o$3o$bo8$4b2o$3b2o$3bo! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries An uncompleted P164: x = 33, y = 60, rule = B3/S2327b2o$27bobo$29bo$23b2o3bob2o$3b2o19bo3bo3bo$4bo19bob2ob2obo$3bo21bobobobo$3b2o2b2o$6bobo$b4obo$bo2bob2o2$24bo$24bobo$24b3o$26bo4$25b2obo2bo$26bob4o$24bobo$24b2o2b2o$bobobobo21bo$ob2ob2obo19bo$o3bo3bo19b2o$b2obo3b2o$3bo$3bobo$4b2o26$19bo$18b3o$18bob2o$19b3o$19b2o! x = 63, y = 30, rule = B3/S2327b2o$27bobo$29bo$23b2o3bob2o$3b2o19bo3bo3bo$4bo19bob2ob2obo$3bo21bobobobo$3b2o2b2o$6bobo$b4obo$bo2bob2o2$24bo34bo2bo$24bobo31bo$24b3o31bo3bo$26bo31b4o4$25b2obo2bo$26bob4o$24bobo$24b2o2b2o$bobobobo21bo$ob2ob2obo19bo$o3bo3bo19b2o$b2obo3b2o$3bo$3bobo$4b2o!

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Unsure G->Mwss connection:

x = 99, y = 86, rule = LifeHistory62.4B16.2A$63.4B14.B2A2B3.2A$64.4B14.4B2.B2AB$56.A8.4B9.B.6B3.2B$34.2A18.3A9.4B6.10B2.2B$35.A17.A13.4B5.11B2A2B$35.A.AB14.2A13.4B3.12B2A3B.B$36.2AB.2A12.B14.4B2.18B2A$38.2B2AB11.3B13.4B2.15B.B2A$37.3B2.B2.2B6.6B12.19B3.B$38.10B4.10B10.18B$37.13B2.11B3.2B2.19B$37.15BD3B2A15BD15B$37.15B2D2B2A15BDBD4B.7B$18.A17.17B2D18B3D4B2.6B$16.3A17.17BD21BD5B.7B$15.A20.16BD29B.6B$15.2A19.17B.13B.4B7.9B$2A10.5B17.27B.B5.3B9.8B$.A9.4B13.4B2.22B10.4B11.8B$.A.2A6.5B3.B2.2B2.30B10.2A14.7B$2.A2.A4.19BD27B10.A15.6B7.2A$3.2AB3.5BC14BDBD26B6.3A16.2B3D2B6.A$4.11B2CB2A9B3DB2A23B6.A18.2BD4B3.BA.A$5.9B2C2B2A11BDB2A21B27.B3D4B2.B2A$6.51B26.11B$6.17B.B2.B2.26B27.11B$7.15B10.B2.19B29.11B$7.15B12.19B31.11B$8.13B12.21B30.2B.7B$10.13B10.8B.12B29.11B$8.9B4.2A.A2.A3.2A2B.5B.12B29.10B$8.8B5.2AB4A2.A.AB2.4B3.9B.B2A25.12B$9.6B7.B7.A15.6B.BA.A22.13B$9.5B7.2A.2A3.2A15.6B4.A21.17B$9.5B8.A.A21.5B5.2A20.18B$10.4B8.A2.A21.3B26.2AB.13B2A2B$10.5B8.2A23.2B25.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB$9.6B32.4B24.A8.B4.8B$8.2B2A4B3.3B24.B2AB24.2A15.6B$7.2BA2BA3B.6B24.2A41.7B.B$6.4B2A9BA2B66.6B.2B$B.B.16BABA68.8B$21B2A68.8B$22B68.8B$20B70.7B$21B60.2A7.6B$21B61.A6.2B3D2B$.B.B.16B61.A.AB3.4BD2B$7.14B62.2AB2.4B3DB$7.13B65.11B$7.11B67.11B$6.13B66.11B$5.15B64.11B$4.16B65.7B$3.17B59.2A4.8B$4.16B51.A8.A5.8B$5.13B51.3A8.A.AB2.7B$5.5B2A2B54.A12.2AB.9B$7.3B2A2B54.2A13.11B$7.8B51.4B13.11B$6.3B3D2B31.A19.3B5.B.7B.9B.B2A$6.4BD3B17.A13.3A16.4B.13B.8B2.BA.A$6.2B3D2B16.3A16.A8.26BD7B5.A$6.7B15.A18.2A7.4BD21BD8B5.2A$7.6B14.B2A17.5B.B2.4B3D18B2D8B$7.6B13.4B19.6B.4BDBD15B2A2B2D8B$8.5B12.3B5.B.7B7.13BD15B2A3BD9B$8.6B10.4B.13B3.B.19B2.2B3.19B$7.6B4.26BD19B11.10B3.7B$7.7B2.4BD21BD18B16.6B4.2AB2.2A.A2.A$8.6B2.4B3D18B2D17B19.3B5.2AB2.2AB4A$8.7B.4BDBD15B2A2B2D17B20.B11.B$7.15BD15B2A3BD9B.7B20.2A9.2A.2A$7.19B2.2B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A19.A10.A.A$6.17B11.10B3.4B9.BA.A15.3A11.A2.A$2.B3.15B16.6B5.5B10.A15.A14.2A$.2AB.15B19.3B9.2A10.2A$.2A18B20.B9.A$2.B.3B2A12B20.2A9.3A$5.2B2A11B22.A11.A$6.2B2.10B19.3A$5.2B3.6B.B21.A$4.B2AB2.4B$5.2A3.2B2AB$12.2A! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This thing (I don't know what to call it) can be made thicker or thinner at certain intervals, and more so if blocks are used: 21bo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$13b2obobobobobobob2o$b2ob2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o3b2ob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobo3b$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$obobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobobob2o$b2ob2o3b2obobobobobobobobobobob2o3b2ob2o$13b2obobobobobobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$20bobo$17b2obobob2o$17b2obobob2o$21bo! I removed the stabilizing blocks at one end so burning would occur. (Also, this is just an example; one could theoretically extend it infinitely.) Furthermore, it can be made to burn in either of two directions, since the center part is a wick. Plus, it could be used to make a sort of two-dimensional wick (although such a thing is impossible in reality due to the definition of a wick including a requirement of one-dimensionality.) x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Are these agars known? Both quite similar to Squaredance

x = 230, y = 144, rule = 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Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries muzik wrote:Are these agars known? Both quite similar to Squaredance x = 230, y = 144, rule = B36/S23pattern That's HighLife. The second one works in normal Life, too, though. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1786 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A for awesome wrote: muzik wrote:Are these agars known? Both quite similar to Squaredance x = 230, y = 144, rule = B36/S23pattern That's HighLife. The second one works in normal Life, too, though. Dangit, forgot to switch rules. The one that does work in Life looks simple enough to possibly have been discovered already. Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A loop with hook will work as well as the beehive with tail for the syringe: x = 27, y = 33, rule = LifeHistory9.2A$5.2A.A.A$6.A.A$6.A.BA$7.A.AB$8.A3B$10.4B11.2A$10.6B9.A$10.7B.2B2.BA.A$9.8B.3B.B2A$6.B.15B$5.18B$5.18B$4.18B$3.A5BCBC9B$.3A.5B2C9B$A6.3BC8B$2A6.10B$8.2B2A6B$7.3B2A6B$8.10B$8.8B.B2A.A$7.7B3.B2AB3A$7.6B6.B4.A$8.6B4.2A.3A$8.5B6.A.A$7.6B6.A.A$7.6B7.A$8.5B$8.3D2B$9.BDB$9.3D$10.B! Probably useless, unless it can be easier to construct... gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This still life crystal forms temporarily: x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory4.2A3.2A$2D.2D.3A$2D.D.C3.A$3.D.DA.A$2D.D.D.A$D2.D.D$.2D3$6.2A$6.2A! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries muzik wrote:This still life crystal forms temporarily: x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory4.2A3.2A$2D.2D.3A$2D.D.C3.A$3.D.DA.A$2D.D.D.A$D2.D.D$.2D3$6.2A$6.2A! Base, if anyone wishes to salvage it: x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S233b2o$2b3o$bo$2o2$bobo$2bo3$4bo$2ob2o$bobo6bo$9bobo$9bobo$10bo3b2o$14b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o!
LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed]

BlinkerSpawn

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

BlinkerSpawn wrote:
muzik wrote:This still life crystal forms temporarily:

x = 11, y = 11, rule = LifeHistory4.2A3.2A$2D.2D.3A$2D.D.C3.A$3.D.DA.A$2D.D.D.A$D2.D.D$.2D3$6.2A$6.2A!

Base, if anyone wishes to salvage it:
x = 16, y = 19, rule = B3/S233b2o$2b3o$bo$2o2$bobo$2bo3$4bo$2ob2o$bobo6bo$9bobo$9bobo$10bo3b2o$14b2o$5b2o$4bo2bo$5b2o! x = 84, y = 83, rule = B3/S2320bobo$20b2o$21bo10$15b2o$14b2o$b2o13bo$obo$2bo10$15b3o$15bo$16bo$3b2o$2bobo$4bo33$57b2o$56b2o$58bo14$81b3o$81bo$82bo!
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
AbhpzTa

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Is this H->G2 in passing known?

x = 56, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory43.B.2B$41.11B$40.5B2A6B$40.4BA2BA5B$30.A10.3BA2BA4B$29.A.A10.3B2A5B$29.A.A9.11B$28.2A.3A7.11B$10.B18.B4.A6.9B.B2A$9.3D9.5B.B2AB3A8.8B.BA.A$9.BDB8.6B.B2A.A10.7B5.A$7.B3D2B6.11B9.11B4.2A$7.6B5.10B5.2A2.14B$7.7B4.10B4.B2A8BD8B$7.8B3.10B2.B2.9B3D9B$8.8B2.26BD10B$8.9B.37B$7.6B.41B$7.7B.40B$8.6B.40B$8.6B2.39B$7.3B2AB3.38B$5.5B2A2B.39B$5.9B.39B$2.B.9B2.19B.3B.15B$.2A11B.19B5.8B3.B.B$.2A6B2D19B2.B7.3B.2B3.3B$2.6BDBD18B11.2B7.B2AB$2.5B2D22B19.2A$4.28B$2.29B$2.2AB2.9B3D12B$3.A4.8BDBD11B$3A3.2AB.6BDBD9B$A4.A.AB.20B$5.A5.16B.2A$4.2A7.11B4.A$12.11B6.3A$12.11B8.A$3.2A7.10B$4.A7.11B$4.A.AB3.14B$5.2AB.15B2A.2A$7.17B2ABA.A$7.19B3.A$7.20B2.2A$6.21B$5.20B$3.21B$3.2BC19B.B$2.3BCBC4B.13B2A$.4B3C4B2.12B2A$7BC4B2.11B.B$11B3.9B$4B10.6B.B$3B12.5B$2B13.4B$B15.5B$19.2A$19.A$20.3A$22.A! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries How do people even make these conduits? Are they entirely handmade using known reactions, or is there an automated search program that generates them? Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This one is basically just trivially assembling of three conduits together in a way that isn't obvious; it's essentially a four-stage reaction (H->Pi, Pi->R+H, R->G). gmc_nxtman Posts: 1147 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Well. I'm not that good at conduits (hence why I made a forum game revolving around them, so we could all learn a bit). The best I can really do is attach blocks and eater 1s and 2s around things like B-heptominos, so I don't know a lot of the tricks. Back on topic, a loaf flipping reaction I don't think I've seen before x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23bo$obo$o2bo$b2o4$5b2o$5bobo$5bo! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries gmc_nxtman wrote:Is this H->G2 in passing known? Doesn't seem to be in the current H-to-Gn collection, which would be a reasonable place to find it if it were known. Then again, I haven't been keeping that file up-to-date very well this year. There are quite a few H-to-Gn converters missing from it, including Kazyan's new in-passing Spartan H-to-G10 Fx77 variant. There are H-to-G2+H emitters in the collection that are smaller and a few hundred ticks faster, though. So I'm not sure if I should add this new H-to-G2, or invent an arbitrary rule that excludes it -- "has to recover within 512 ticks", or some such. @muzik, the individual pieces of compund conduits like this are generally found with search utilities -- ptbsearch, catalyst, CatForce, Bellman, etc. There's usually at least a piece or two that gets bolted on manually, by looking through the current scrap heap (the Elementary Conduits Collection) and finding something that fits. In this case, gmc_nxtman said there were four stages, but only mentioned three. If you want to look the pieces up in the ECC, it's HL75P + PF291R, which is a variant of the PF35W converter that can be found in the Fx176 Herschel conduit... plus WFx46H (the only known W-to-H converter) and one of the most versatile R-to-G converters, RNW3T46G. dvgrn Moderator Posts: 5578 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Copperhead eating a LWSS: x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S2315bo$14bo$14bo3bo$14b4o2$4b2o$4b2o3$3bo2bo$2obo2bob2o$2b2o2b2o2$3b4o$2b6o2$3b4o$4b2o! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A clean fuse that burns at the speed of light (based on the light-speed wire): 6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$$6b14o5bo14bo5ob14obo5bo14bo6b14o$$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o$6b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o! x = 81, y = 96, rule = LifeHistory58.2A$58.2A3$59.2A17.2A$59.2A17.2A3$79.2A$79.2A2$57.A$56.A$56.3A4$27.A$27.A.A$27.2A21$3.2A$3.2A2.2A$7.2A18$7.2A$7.2A2.2A$11.2A11$2A$2A2.2A$4.2A18$4.2A$4.2A2.2A$8.2A!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

are...are you serious

x = 21, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory19.A$18.A$18.3A2$15.2A$12.2A2.A$12.A2.A$2D5.2D4.3A$D7.D$.3D.3D$3.D.D$4.D!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

muzik wrote:are...are you serious

x = 21, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory19.A$18.A$18.3A2$15.2A$12.2A2.A$12.A2.A$2D5.2D4.3A$D7.D$.3D.3D$3.D.D$4.D!

Allows a 5G synthesis:
x = 52, y = 82, rule = B3/S238bo$6bobo$7b2o17$30bo$30bobo18bo$30b2o17b2o$50b2o$31bo$30b2o$30bobo54$b2o$obo$2bo!

But instead of waiting for Bob Shemaykin to say it for me, I'll go ahead and state that there already exist four 4G syntheses for the same SL, one of which is similar in character to the 5G:
x = 134, y = 59, rule = B3/S23o$b2o49b2o38b2o38b2o$2o49bobo25bo11bobo37bobo$51bo26bo12bo39bo$50b2o26b3o9b2o22bo15b2o$49bo39bo24bobo12bo$50b2o38b2o22b2o14b2o$51bo17bobo19bo16bobo20bo$51bobo16b2o19bobo15b2o20bobo$52b2o16bo21b2o15bo22b2o$115b2o$68b2o37b2o5b2o$2b3o2b2o58b2o39b2o6bo$4bob2o61bo37bo$3bo4bo54b3o$65bo$64bo24$112bobo$78bo34b2o17b2o$77bo35bo17bobo$77b3o51bo$95b2o18b2o13b2o$76bo19bo19bo12bo$75b2o16b3o17b3o2b3o9b2o$75bobo15bo19bo4bo12bo$119bo11bobo$132b2o7$46b2o$46bobo$46bo! LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1862 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries I am not sure whether this is new, but a "Minus-space interaction" between a glider and a snake (any stabilised pre-block triomino works instead of snake). Minus-space because a SPACEship* becomes a boat . x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3/S23ob2o$2obo4$9b3o$9bo$10bo! * only now I realised it's a boat. Either way, HWSS destroys a MWSS with the help of that easily created still life (the HWSS continues its way unaffected): x = 37, y = 15, rule = B3/S234bo$5bo$o4bo$b5o2$29bob2ob2o$29b2obobobo$35bo4$17b6o$16bo5bo$22bo$21bo! SoL : FreeElectronics : DeadlyEnemies : 6a-ite : Rule X3VI what is “sesame oil”? Rhombic Posts: 1056 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 5:41 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries That's boat-bit. Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Rhombic wrote:I am not sure whether this is new, but a "Minus-space interaction" between a glider and a snake (any stabilised pre-block triomino works instead of snake). Minus-space because a SPACEship* becomes a boat . x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3/S23ob2o$2obo4$9b3o$9bo$10bo! This is called the "boat bit" reaction, and has been known for decades. The reason it's called a "boat bit" is that a second glider on the same lane removes the boat, so the boat acts as a signal flip-flop - i.e. a stream of gliders hitting the snake produces a boat with twice the period of input stream. It's also possible to place another glider on an adjacent lane that normally escapes, but is destroyed by the boat-destruction reaction, creating a divide-by-2 mechanism. This method has long been used to create glider streams whose periods are multiples of arbitrarily large powers of 2. mniemiec Posts: 1018 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries It also happens basically anywhere there's a pre-block: x = 22, y = 10, rule = B3/S23bo4bo5bo5bo$2bo4bo5bo5bo$3o2b3o3b3o3b3o4$3b2o3b2o4b2o4b2o$4bo4bo5bo5bo$3bo3bo4bo5b3o$3b2o2b2o3b2o4bo! Bored of using the Moore neighbourhood for everything? Introducing the Range-2 von Neumann isotropic non-totalistic rulespace! muzik Posts: 3300 Joined: January 28th, 2016, 2:47 pm Location: Scotland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries muzik wrote:It also happens basically anywhere there's a pre-block: rle Or, less commonly, here: x = 20, y = 11, rule = B3/S233bo9bo$4bo9bo$2b3o2b2o3b3o2b2o$7bo9bo$8bo9bo$3bob3o5bob3o$b3obo7b2o$o15b2o$2o15bo$17bobo\$18b2o!
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