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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » January 26th, 2024, 3:57 pm

Marjamjelly wrote:
January 26th, 2024, 2:45 pm
confocaloid wrote:
January 25th, 2024, 5:04 pm
Marjamjelly wrote:
January 25th, 2024, 4:55 pm
I am not sure if this has been discovered before, but it seems like a simple oscillator.

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 x = 3, y = 1, rule = B3/S23
3o!
It is the blinker, the smallest oscillator in Life.
I apologize for the unnecessary post, but I wondered what the general response would be if someone posted the blinker in this category.
In other words, that was basically a post "to see how others would feel to the phenomenon" or "just to see how they would respond"?

I believe such posts are generally nonproductive. Instead of contributing, one tries to "trick" others into some situation. I would not want to see this place descend into remaining users trying to trick each other.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Marjamjelly » January 26th, 2024, 4:55 pm

confocaloid wrote:
January 26th, 2024, 3:57 pm
Marjamjelly wrote:
January 26th, 2024, 2:45 pm
confocaloid wrote:
January 25th, 2024, 5:04 pm


It is the blinker, the smallest oscillator in Life.
I apologize for the unnecessary post, but I wondered what the general response would be if someone posted the blinker in this category.
In other words, that was basically a post "to see how others would feel to the phenomenon" or "just to see how they would respond"?
Sorry. I will spend some time looking for topics for my uses.

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 x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
obo$b2o$bo2$8b3o$8bo$3b3o3bo$3bo$4bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Tawal » January 26th, 2024, 5:34 pm

I found a quasi pure H precursor (may I use predecessor instead ?).
It just sends a glider before forming the pure H.

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x = 40, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
5$6.2D$5.2D2B$6.BD2B$7.4B3.2E2B$8.8BE4B3.2B2.2B$9.7BEB2E11BD$10.3B3E
4BE10BDBD$11.9BE10B3DB$13.2B.2B3E12BD$15.17B$16.9B.B$18.3B!
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The output glider will be a NW-21T-1 if I well calculated.

Edit:
It's also a B predecessor with junks which delete the natural block and produce a glider.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by johamwit » January 26th, 2024, 7:44 pm

Marjamjelly wrote:
January 26th, 2024, 2:45 pm
...
I apologize for the unnecessary post, but ...
The bad news is that this thread is so cluttered with trivial "discoveries", that your post fits perfectly.
As for your "burner" account, I suggest you to use another one, as many users have the policy of banning out such "contributors", in order to filter out the noise in the forum.
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by carsoncheng » January 28th, 2024, 10:44 am

Clean 4G-to-5G over-unity reaction:

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x = 21, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
o$b2o$2o2$16bo$15bo$15b3o6$19b2o$18b2o$20bo9$b2o$2b2o$bo!
EDIT: More clean 4G-to-5G collisions:

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x = 18, y = 26, rule = B3/S23
15bo$14bo$14b3o15$7b2o6b2o$8b2o5bobo$7bo7bo4$3o$2bo$bo!

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2bo$3bo$b3o3$4bo$4b2o$3bobo3$bo$b2o$obo8$19b2o$19bobo$19bo!

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x = 29, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
24bo$23bo$23b3o6$27b2o$26b2o$28bo3$b2o$obo$2bo3$15b2o$16b2o$15bo!
EDIT: Clean 5G-to-7G (based on 4G-to-(6G+turner)):

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x = 75, y = 70, rule = B3/S23
16bo$17b2o$16b2o13$25bo$17b2o5b2o$18b2o4bobo$17bo5$3o$2bo$bo42$72b3o$
72bo$73bo!
Another clean 4G-to-5G:

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x = 36, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
34bo$33bo$33b3o$26b2o$25bobo$27bo4$32b2o$31b2o$33bo22$3o$2bo$bo!
Clean 4G-to-5G:

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x = 27, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
21bo$19b2o$20b2o10$3bobo$3b2o$4bo4$b2o$obo$2bo15$24b2o$24bobo$24bo!
Clean 4G-to-5G:

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x = 36, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
13bobo$14b2o$14bo6$34bo$33bo$33b3o$obo10b3o$b2o12bo$bo12bo!
Last edited by carsoncheng on January 31st, 2024, 7:43 am, edited 4 times in total.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by roolif » January 28th, 2024, 7:51 pm

An entirely new field ? Possibly useful in signal processing.
carsoncheng wrote:
January 28th, 2024, 10:44 am
Clean 4G-to-5G over-unity reaction:
...

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x = 22, y = 23, rule = B3/S23
2bo$3bo$b3o3$4bo$4b2o$3bobo3$bo$b2o$obo8$19b2o$19bobo$19bo!
...
The reaction ( from 4G to 5G ) takes 70 ticks. Possible developments from here. among others:

- faster reactions
- fewer input/output streams ( here is 3/2 )
- other "over-unity" reactions: nG to (n+1)G. I think that this one can be solved by brute force, we all know the 2G collisions, none of them produces - cleanly - 2 or more G. I don't know what happens with all the 3G collisions.

Messy & slow 2G to 4G, (NE,SE=>2xNE,SE,SW ), in 294 ticks with a lot of unsettled ash:

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#C [[ AUTOFIT LOOP 444 ]]
x = 6, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bo$3b3o25$bo$2o$obo!

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x = 13, y = 13, rule = LifeSuper
#C [[ NOGUI NOSOURCE HEIGHT 100 WIDTH 100 ]]
3A.3A.5A$A.A3.A$A.A.3A.A.A.A$A7.A3.A$A.5M.A.A.A$A9.A.A$A.5M.3A.A$A.M$
A.M.3M.D.D.D$2.M3.M3.D$3M.3M4D.D$M11.D$10M.2D!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Haycat2009 » January 29th, 2024, 10:12 pm

Integer construction of 137 (dvgrn’s fav number) makes a HWSS. (I could not find the right thread)
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Pocholito » January 30th, 2024, 6:13 pm

Is this one-time lane-changing 180-degree glider reflector known?

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x = 17, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
14bobo$14b2o$15bo5$3bob2o$b3ob2o4b2o$o10bobo$b3ob2o5bo$3bobo$7bo$6b2o
!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Pocholito » January 30th, 2024, 6:24 pm

Just noticed eater 2 can be replaced with regular eater.

edit: Hoping a catalyst can be found to bring back (or substitute) the boat.

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x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
$12bobo$12b2o$13bo5$3b2o$2bobo4b2o$2bo6bobo$b2o7bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » January 30th, 2024, 9:54 pm

Pocholito wrote:
January 30th, 2024, 6:24 pm
Just noticed eater 2 can be replaced with regular eater.

edit: Hoping a catalyst can be found to bring back (or substitute) the boat.
Hello, and welcome to the forums!

Just a quick note about "viewer" tags. Generally, the community tends to prefer if "code" tags mostly get used instead of "viewer" tags. "code" tags are the ones you get when you select some RLE and hit the </> button on the Edit toolbar.

Now, it's currently very hard for a newcomer to figure this out right away, unless they happen to have read the forum rules unusually early, all the way down to Rule 5a.

I've just sent a suggestion to Nathaniel (our admin) to see if we can't improve the GUI a little bit, maybe by hiding the "viewer" tag and/or changing the "</>" button to say something like "code/RLE" instead.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » January 31st, 2024, 12:23 am

carsoncheng wrote:
January 28th, 2024, 10:44 am
roolif wrote:
January 28th, 2024, 7:51 pm
[...] I don't know what happens with all the 3G collisions.
[...]
I ran a script on 3gdata.txt, looking for collisions which after 16384 ticks evolve to a set of spaceships (without stationary ash), with resulting population greater than 5 and not equal to 10. There were only seven "maybe good" results, all of which make xWSSes:

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x = 134, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
131bobo$131b2o$132bo19$122bo$120bobo2bo$bo119b2o2bobo$2bo21bobo85bo12b
2o$3o4bo16b2o40bobo24b2o10bo5b2o$5b2o18bo25bo14b2o25bobo10bo4bobo$6b2o
36bo5b2o15bo16bo8bo10b3o$2o43bo4bobo32b2o$b2o40b3o38b2o3bo18b3o$o23b2o
42bobo18b2o19bo$24bobo20b3o14b2o2b2o18bobo18bo$24bo24bo13bobo3bo$20b2o
26bo16bo$19bobo$21bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Pocholito » January 31st, 2024, 2:21 pm

Thanks! :D. Apologies in advance, but I remain uncertain as to if the reflector is known.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » February 1st, 2024, 12:42 pm

table on snake does a catalyst

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x = 28, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
5b3o$5b3o$4bobo$4b2o2$26b2o$26b2o5$24bo2bo$24b4o$16b2o$2b2o12b2o6b2o$
3bo5b2o14bo$3o6b2o13bo$o23b2o!
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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
the U-turner gallery
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C_R_116 » February 2nd, 2024, 6:46 pm

Interesting PD/Wing Reaction:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
15b3o$15bobo$15b3o$15b3o$9bo5b3o$8bobo4b3o$8bo2bo3bobo$9b3o3b3o$5b2o$
4bo2bo$5bobo$6b2o4$8o$ob4obo$8o!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » February 3rd, 2024, 2:31 am

C_R_116 wrote:
February 2nd, 2024, 6:46 pm
Interesting PD/Wing Reaction:

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x = 18, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
15b3o$15bobo$15b3o$15b3o$9bo5b3o$8bobo4b3o$8bo2bo3bobo$9b3o3b3o$5b2o$
4bo2bo$5bobo$6b2o4$8o$ob4obo$8o!
Nearly impossible to complete p15 partial:

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x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
17bo$17bo$16bobo$17bo$17bo$10bo6bo$9bobo5bo$9bo2bo3bobo$10b2o5bo$6b2o
5bo3bo$5bo2bo$6bobo$7bo$9bo3$2bo4bo$2ob4ob2o$2bo4bo!
[[ THEME INVERSE LOOP 15 ]]
My new p2p:

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4bo5b2obo$2b3o5bob2o$bo14b2o$bo2b3o4b3o2bobo$2obo3bo2bo3bobobo$3bo3b4o
3bobob2o$3bo3bo2bo3bobobo$4b3o4b3o2bobo$16b2o$4b3o4b3o$4bo2bo3bo2bo$6b
obo4bobo$7bo6bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by HerscheltheHerschel » February 3rd, 2024, 12:08 pm

almost slow oblique block pull

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x = 34, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
2o$2o6$2b3o$2bo$3bo7$16b2o$15b2o$17bo9$31b3o$31bo$32bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by C28 » February 3rd, 2024, 2:41 pm

transparent block that near instantly gets destroyed (check gen 68)

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
b3o$b3o$obo$2o7$9bo$8bobo$9bo$3b2o$3b2o!
- Christopher D'Agostino

adopted father of the U-turner

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x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
9bo$8bobo$8bobo$9bo8$b3o$b3o$obo$2o!
the U-turner gallery
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by Pocholito » February 4th, 2024, 3:46 pm

4617-gen methuselah with 8 cells and a 4x6 bounding box. Gen 1 has a 4x4 bounding box.

At gen 608, it also produces a spark that resembles a phase of Gliders by the Dozen.

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x = 4, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2bo$2bo$o2bo$2o$bo$2bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by erictom333 » February 5th, 2024, 5:39 am

Three quarter max, which I stitched together myself. Has his been done before?

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x = 134, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o5b3o12bo5bo$ob2o4bo2bo4b3o3b3o3b3o$b3o2bo9bo2bob2obo3bob2o$b3ob2o
bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o5b3o$b2o3bobo2b2o2b5o2b2o5b2o$11b2o9b2o$12bo3bo3bo2bo2b
2o37b3o$17bo2b2obo7b3o24b3o3bo2bo$12b4o3b2o6bo3bo2bo6b3o3b3o8bo2bo5bo$
11bo2b3o4bo2b4o3bo2bo6bo2bo2bo2bo7bo8bo$12b2obobobo2bobo5bo3b2o4bo3bo
2bo10bo3bobobo$10bo4bo3bobob2o2bo3b3o2b2o2b2ob2o3bo2bo3bo2bo$10bo4bo8b
5o3b2ob3ob2o8b3o2b3obo3bo7b3o$14b2o12bo5bo4b2o3b5o2b2obo3bo3b2o6bo2bo$
10bobobo13bo5b2o7bo4b4obobo2b3o2bo6bo$7bo3b2obo19b3o3b2o2bo4bo3bobo6bo
2bo4bo$6b3o3bo27b5o5bo2bobo2b4o4b2o3bobo$5b2obo3b4o21b2obob2o2b4o6bo
11bo$5b3o4b2o19bo4bobobob2o9bob4obo$5b3o3bo20b2ob2obobo3bobo4bo4b2ob2o
3b2ob2o$6b2o3bob2o14bo2b3o3bob3obobo10bo2bo3bobo22bo$11bo2bo13b3obo5bo
b2o2bobo2b2o7bobo3bo23b3o$9b2o16b2o2b2o5b3ob6o2b3ob2o2bobobo3b2o3b3o3b
3o8bob2o$8bo2bo2b2o11b2ob2o6b3o2bo2b2o2b2obob3obo2bo7bo2bo3bo2bo8b3o$
11bo15b2o2b2ob3obo12bo9b3o2bo3bo3bobo3bo8b2o$7bo3bo19bob2o2bo4bo8bob2o
6b3o4bo3bobobobo2bo$11bo15b2o5bo26b3o3b5obo2bob5ob3o$8bobo23bo26b3o19b
2ob2o$37bo23b2o4b16o3b2o$30b6ob2o27bo22bo$29b2obo4b2o28b23o$29bob2ob4o
53bo$33b4o30b25o$28bob2ob3o30bo26bo$27bo2bo36b27o$27bo4b2o61bo$33bo33b
29o$27bo38bo30bo$26b2obobo2b2o31b31o$27bo6b3o62bo$26bo2bo6bo30b33o$27b
3o3bo32bo34bo$27b3o3bo2bo30b35o$35bo67bo$67b37o$29bo36bo38bo24b2o$28b
2o3bo33b39o23b4o$28b2o2b3o72bo21b2ob2o$31b2obo21b2o9b41o16bo6b2o$31b3o
23bo8bo42bo14b2o$31b3o22bo3bo6b43o10b2o4b2o$32b2o15b2o4bob4o50bo7b3o3b
3o$50bo4bobo9b45o7b3o4b2o$50bob2obo3b2o5bo46bo3b2obo3b2o$51bobo2bo3bo
6b47o5bo4bo6b2o$49bobo3bo2bo56bo3bo9b2ob2o$49b2obo2bob3o7b48o3bo10b4o$
52bob3o3bo5bo49b2o12b2o$49b2obobob2o2bo6b48o$49b2obobo3bob2o51bo$28b2o
8bo13bo4b2o2bo5b46o$27b2o3bo4b2o9bob2obobo3bo6bo44bo$26b2o2b2o4bo3b3o
5b2obobo2b2ob2o6b44o$27bo4b5obo4bo9bobo2bo50bo$31bo4bobo13b2ob2obo8b
42o$28b2o3b2ob2obo3bo7bo2bo3b2o6bo40bo$31b2o4bo10b2o2bo5bo8b40o$21b5o
3b2o5bo10bo2b2o3b2obo46bo$21bo4b2obo2bo14b2obo6bob2o6b38o$21bo6bo21bob
ob3o2bo6bo36bo$22bo5b2obo18bo6bobobo5b36o$24b2o2bo3b2o17b2o3bobobobo
38bo$27bo28b2o2bo2bo3b34o$25b3o28b4obobo2bo32bo$24bo8bo5bo5bo5bo5bobob
2o4b32o$24bo4bobo2b2o4b2o4b2o4b2o5bo37bo$24bo3b2o2bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o
b2ob3obo9b28o$25bo31bob2o3b2o2bo26bo$26b31o7b2o2b27o$93bo$28b31o3b31o$
27bo31bobo29bo$26bo3b30ob30o$23bobo2bo2bo57bo$22bo2bobo4b57o$21b2o10bo
53bo$20bo13b53o$19b4o12bo49bo$18bo4bo12b49o$18bo2bo15bo45bo$18bo2bo16b
45o$19bo19bo41bo$20b4obo14b41o$21bo3bo15bo37bo$22bo19b37o$22bobo18bo
33bo$44b33o$21b3o21bo29bo$21b2o23b29o$21b3o23bo25bo$48b25o$22bobo24bo
21bo$22bo27b21o$21bo3bo25bo17bo$20b4obo26b17o$19bo33bo13bo$18bo2bo32b
13o$18bo2bo33bo9bo$18bo4bo32b9o$19b4o37bo$20bo36b3ob3o$21b2o35bo3bo$
22bo2bo31bobobobo$23bobo31bobobobo$56bo7bo$56bo7bo$56bo2bobo2bo$56b3o
3b3o!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by confocaloid » February 5th, 2024, 5:53 am

erictom333 wrote:
February 5th, 2024, 5:39 am
Three quarter max, which I stitched together myself. Has his been done before?

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x = 134, y = 119, rule = B3/S23
There was a larger (141x137) solution from May 2022 ( viewtopic.php?p=145081#p145087 ):

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#C https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=145087#p145087
#C https://conwaylife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=145081#p145081
x = 141, y = 137, rule = B3/S23
20bo$19b3o5b3o12bo5bo$18b2obo4bo2bo5b3o3b3o3b3o$18b3o4b3obo4bo2bo3bob
2ob2obo$18b3o2bo6bo3bo2bo4b3ob3o$19b2o5bo4bo4b4o2b3o2b2o$25bo6bobobob
2o2b3o$32bobob2o2bo2b2o39b3o$30b2o3bo2b2o2b3o5b3o24b3o4bo2bo$33b2o4b3o
3b2o2bo2bo7b3o3b3o7bo2bo4bo$30b5o2b2o8bo5bo5bo2bo2bo2bo10bo4bo$30bo6b
2obo5b3o2b2o6bo3bo4bo6bo3bo5bobo$29b2o5b2o5b2o3b2ob6ob2obo7bo4bo4bo$30b
o2b4obo2bob2o2b4o2bo2b2o2bo4bo2b2o2b2obo3bob2o6b3o$31bo3bo6b2o5bo5b2o
2bob2o2bo2b2o2b2obo3b2o2bo4bo2bo$31b2o2bo9bob2o6b5ob3o2bo4b2o2bo4bo10b
o$26bo3b2ob2o19bob2o2bobo2bo8bo2b4o2bo7bo$25b3o4bo20bo5bo2b2ob2o2b2o5b
2o3b2ob3obobo$25bob2o25bo2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o4b2o$26b3o23b2o3bo2bob2obo
2bo4bo4bo$26b6o20b4obobo5bob2o4b3o7b2o2bo$26b3obob2o14bo6bobo3bobobo9b
o6bo25bo$29bo4bo12b3o3b3obo2bo4b2ob2o5b6o6bo19b3o$28bo18bob2o4b3o4bo3b
5ob3o2bobo2bob3o3b3o3b3o7b2obo$28bo4b2o15bo4b3o3b2o4b2o2b2obo4b2o9bo2b
obo2bo7b3o$28bo17b3o3bobobo3b3o14bob2o8bo3bobo4bo6b2o$28bo17b4o3bo6b2o
10bobo2bob2o5b6obobob4o$28bo18bo8bo14bo6b3o5bo6bobobo3b2ob2o$29bobo22b
2o22b3o3bob9ob6obobo$53bo2bo22b2o4bo17bo3bo$49b3ob4o29b17ob4o$48b2ob6o
52bo$47b2o37b24o$47b2o36bo25bo$47b2o3bo3bo29b26o$50b2o61bo$47bo38b28o
$47b2ob3o32bo29bo$46bo4bobo32b30o$45bobo5b2o62bo$52b2o32b32o$46b2o4b2o
b2o28bo33bo$45b2ob2o36b34o$45b5o4bo66bo$46b3o37b36o$47bo37bo37bo$47b2o
37b38o$48bo3bo72bo$51b3o32b40o$51bob2o30bo41bo$52b3o29bob42o$52b3o24b
2o4bo43bo$52b2o25bo6b44o$76b2obo51bo$76bobo7b46o$73b2obo8bo46bobo$72b
obob2o8b50o$72bo2b2o2bob2o52b2o$70b2ob2o3b3obo3b46o3b3o$71bobobo9bo44b
o3b3o$71bobobob2o7b44o4bo$70b2obob3obo49bo6bo$10b3o7b2o48bo2bo2bob2o6b
42o6bobo$9bo3b2o5b3obo46b2ob3o3b2o3bo41bo9bo$9bo4bo2bobob2ob2o46bobo2b
2o2bo4b40o8bobo$9b2o2bob3obo2bob2o45bo2bobo2b2o44bo10bo$11bo9b2o48bob
2ob2obo6b38o10bo$13b2obob2o49b2obo2bo3bo5bo37bo10b3o$5b3o3bo2b3obob2o
48bo2bobo3bob2o3b36o11b2o2bo$4b6ob3obo52bo2b2ob4obo2bo38bo11bob3o$3b2o
b5ob2o54b2obo2bo3bob2o4b34o18bo$4b2o7bo57bob5o2bo4bo33bo17b3o$10b3o2b
o55bobo6bo5b32o17bo2b3o$10b3o2bo56b2o2bob2ob2o34bo21bo$7bo2b2o64bo4bo
4b30o19b4o$8b3o68b2o2bobo29bo22bo$7bobo7bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo5bo
5b2obob2ob29o21b2o$6b3o2b3obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2obo2b2o
bo2b2obo2b2obo2b2o6bo32bo19b4o$7b2o2b3o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b4o2b
4o2b4o2b4ob4obo6b25o21bo$8b2o69bo6bo24bo$9b70o8b23o$81bo2bo24bo$11b97o
$10b2o95bo$9b2o2b93o$7b2obo2bo91bo$4b4obo5b89o$4b2o9bo87bo$2bo14b85o$
2b4o11bo83bo$bo17b81o$3o2bo13bo79bo$b3o17b77o$2bo18bo75bo$3b3obo15b73o
$3bo2b2o15bo71bo$4b3o18b69o$6bo18bo67bo$4bo22b65o$4bobo20bo63bo$3bo25b
61o$4bobo22bo59bo$4bo26b57o$6bo24bo55bo$4b3o26b53o$3bo2b2o25bo51bo$3b
3obo27b49o$2bo32bo47bo$b3o33b45o$3o2bo31bo43bo$bo37b41o$2b4o33bo39bo$
2bo38b37o$4b2o35bo35bo$4b4o35b33o$7bo35bo31bo$45b29o$45bo27bo$47b25o$
47bo23bo$49b21o$49bo19bo$51b17o$51bo15bo$53b13o$53bo11bo$55b9o$55bo7b
o$56b7o2$56bobobobo$55b2o5b2o$55b2o5b2o$54b3o5b3o$54b2obo3bob2o$55b3o
3b3o$56bo5bo!
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by dvgrn » February 5th, 2024, 8:43 am

erictom333 wrote:
February 5th, 2024, 5:39 am
Three quarter max, which I stitched together myself. Has his been done before?

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x = 134, y = 119, rule = B3/S23...
There seems to be one level of easy corollary-sniping to do:

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x = 130, y = 113, rule = LifeSuper
.M$3M5.3M12.M5.M$M.2M4.M2.M4.3M3.3M3.3M$.3M2.M9.M2.M.2M.M3.M.2M$.3M.
2M.M3.M2.M2.2M.3M5.3M$.2M3.M.M2.2M2.5M2.2M5.2M$11.2M9.2M$12.M3.M3.M2.
M2.2M37.3M$17.M2.2M.M7.3M24.3M3.M2.M$12.4M3.2M6.M3.M2.M6.3M3.3M8.M2.M
5.M$11.M2.3M4.M2.4M3.M2.M6.M2.M2.M2.M7.M8.M$12.2M.M.M.M2.M.M5.M3.2M4.
M3.M2.M10.M3.M.M.M$10.M4.M3.M.M.2M2.M3.3M2.2M2.2M.2M3.M2.M3.M2.M$10.M
4.M8.5M3.2M.3M.2M8.3M2.3M.M3.M7.3M$14.2M12.M5.M4.2M3.5M2.2M.M3.M3.2M
6.M2.M$10.M.M.M13.M5.2M7.M4.4M.M.M2.3M2.M6.M$7.M3.2M.M19.3M3.2M2.M4.M
3.M.M6.M2.M4.M$6.3M3.M27.5M5.M2.M.M2.4M4.2M3.M.M$5.2M.M3.4M21.2M.M.2M
2.4M6.M11.M$5.3M4.2M19.M4.M.M.M.2M9.M.4M.M$5.3M3.M20.2M.2M.M.M3.M.M4.
M4.2M.2M3.2M.2M$6.2M3.M.2M14.M2.3M3.M.3M.M.M10.M2.M3.M.M22.M$11.M2.M
13.3M.M5.M.2M2.M.M2.2M7.M.M3.M23.3M$9.2M16.2M2.2M5.3M.6M2.3M.2M2.M.M.
M3.2M3.3M3.3M8.M.2M$8.M2.M2.2M11.2M.2M6.3M2.M2.2M2.2M.M.3M.M2.M7.M2.M
3.M2.M8.3M$11.M15.2M2.2M.3M.M12.M9.3M2.M3.M3.M.M3.M8.2M$7.M3.M19.M.2M
2.M4.M8.M.2M6.3M4.M3.M.M.M.M2.M$11.M15.2M5.M26.3M3.5M.M2.M.5M.3M$8.M.
M23.M26.3M19.2M.2M$37.M23.2M4.16M3.2M$30.6M.2M27.M22.M$29.2M.M4.2M28.
23M$29.M.2M.4M53.M$33.4M30.25M$28.M.2M.3M30.M26.M$27.M2.M36.27M$27.M
4.2M61.M$33.M33.29M$27.M38.M30.M$26.2M.M.M2.2M31.31M$27.M6.3M62.M$26.
M2.M6.M30.33M$27.3M3.M32.M34.M24.2M$27.3M3.M2.M30.35M23.4M$35.M67.M
21.2M.2M$56.2M9.37M16.M6.2M$29.pA27.M8.M38.M14.2M$28.2pA3.pA22.M3.M6.
39M10.2M4.2M$28.2pA2.3pA14.2M4.M.4M46.M7.3M3.3M$31.2pA.pA15.M4.M.M9.
41M7.3M4.2M$31.3pA16.M.2M.M3.2M5.M42.M3.2M.M3.2M$31.3pA17.M.M2.M3.M6.
43M5.M4.M6.2M$32.2pA15.M.M3.M2.M52.M3.M9.2M.2M$49.2M.M2.M.3M7.44M3.M
10.4M$52.M.3M3.M5.M45.2M12.2M$49.2M.M.M.2M2.M6.44M$49.2M.M.M3.M.2M47.
M$28.2M8.M13.M4.2M2.M5.42M$27.2M3.M4.2M9.M.2M.M.M3.M6.M40.M$26.2M2.2M
4.M3.3M5.2M.M.M2.2M.2M6.40M$27.M4.5M.M4.M9.M.M2.M46.M$31.M4.M.M13.2M.
2M.M8.38M$28.2M3.2M.2M.M3.M7.M2.M3.2M6.M36.M$31.2M4.M10.2M2.M5.M8.36M
$21.5M3.2M5.M10.M2.2M3.2M.M42.M$21.M4.2M.M2.M14.2M.M6.M.2M6.34M$21.M
6.M21.M.M.3M2.M6.M32.M$22.M5.2M.M18.M6.M.M.M5.32M$24.2M2.M3.2M17.2M3.
M.M.M.M34.M$27.M28.2M2.M2.M3.30M$25.3M28.4M.M.M2.M28.M$24.M8.M5.M5.M
5.M5.M.M.2M4.28M$24.M4.M.M2.2M4.2M4.2M4.2M5.M33.M$24.M3.2M2.M.2M.2M.
2M.2M.2M.2M.2M.3M.M9.24M$25.M31.M.2M3.2M2.M22.M$26.31M7.2M2.23M$89.M$
28.31M3.27M$27.M31.M.M25.M$26.M3.30M.26M$23.M.M2.M2.M53.M$22.M2.M.M4.
53M$21.2M10.M49.M$20.M13.49M$19.4M12.M45.M$18.M4.M12.45M$18.M2.M15.M
41.M$18.M2.M16.41M$19.M19.M37.M$20.4M.M14.37M$21.M3.M15.M33.M$22.M19.
33M$22.M.M18.M29.M$44.29M$21.3M21.M25.M$21.2M23.25M$21.3M23.M21.M$48.
21M$22.M.M24.M17.M$22.M27.17M$21.M3.M25.M13.M$20.4M.M26.13M$19.M33.M
9.M$18.M2.M32.9M$18.M2.M36.M$18.M4.M31.3M.3M$19.4M33.M3.M$20.M34.M.M.
M.M$21.2M32.M.M.M.M$22.M2.M28.M7.M$23.M.M28.M7.M$54.M2.M.M2.M$54.3M3.
3M!
Removing another four columns and four rows looks possible, by JLS-ing some N-tick predecessor of the area marked in pink, that's a row or two less obtrusive.

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by CharlyS » February 5th, 2024, 11:29 am

Hi i'm really new to this, but i found an interesting pattern that creates a zig zag of squares on its way.

Im not sure if it's discovered yet (i bet it is) but i thought it's kinda funny :-)
I'm not sure whether the two squares on the top right could be removed or not.

https://ibb.co/S01mG3C


edit:
It creates something like this.
I don't really know what the parent pattern should look like.

https://ibb.co/DWYt63T

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by hotdogPi » February 5th, 2024, 11:34 am

That's a block-laying switch engine. It's surprising that you found one — I've still never seen it naturally, even though I know they exist.
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100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by qqd » February 5th, 2024, 11:36 am

CharlyS wrote:
February 5th, 2024, 11:29 am
Hi i'm really new to this, but i found an interesting pattern that creates a zig zag of squares on its way.

Im not sure if it's discovered yet (i bet it is) but i thought it's kinda funny :-)
I'm not sure whether the two squares on the top right could be removed or not.

https://ibb.co/S01mG3C
Welcome of the forums!
You rediscovered a known but extremely rare to find by hand pattern called the switch engine. Well done if you found it that way, even though it is a re-discovery.
My new p2p:

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x = 20, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4bo5b2obo$2b3o5bob2o$bo14b2o$bo2b3o4b3o2bobo$2obo3bo2bo3bobobo$3bo3b4o
3bobob2o$3bo3bo2bo3bobobo$4b3o4b3o2bobo$16b2o$4b3o4b3o$4bo2bo3bo2bo$6b
obo4bobo$7bo6bo!

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Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Post by squareroot12621 » February 5th, 2024, 6:00 pm

dvgrn wrote:
February 5th, 2024, 8:43 am
erictom333 wrote:
February 5th, 2024, 5:39 am
Three quarter max, which I stitched together myself. Has his been done before?

Code: Select all

x = 134, y = 119, rule = B3/S23...
There seems to be one level of easy corollary-sniping to do:

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x = 130, y = 113, rule = LifeSuper
.M$3M5.3M12.M5.M$M.2M4.M2.M4.3M3.3M3.3M$.3M2.M9.M2.M.2M.M3.M.2M$.3M.
2M.M3.M2.M2.2M.3M5.3M$.2M3.M.M2.2M2.5M2.2M5.2M$11.2M9.2M$12.M3.M3.M2.
M2.2M37.3M$17.M2.2M.M7.3M24.3M3.M2.M$12.4M3.2M6.M3.M2.M6.3M3.3M8.M2.M
5.M$11.M2.3M4.M2.4M3.M2.M6.M2.M2.M2.M7.M8.M$12.2M.M.M.M2.M.M5.M3.2M4.
M3.M2.M10.M3.M.M.M$10.M4.M3.M.M.2M2.M3.3M2.2M2.2M.2M3.M2.M3.M2.M$10.M
4.M8.5M3.2M.3M.2M8.3M2.3M.M3.M7.3M$14.2M12.M5.M4.2M3.5M2.2M.M3.M3.2M
6.M2.M$10.M.M.M13.M5.2M7.M4.4M.M.M2.3M2.M6.M$7.M3.2M.M19.3M3.2M2.M4.M
3.M.M6.M2.M4.M$6.3M3.M27.5M5.M2.M.M2.4M4.2M3.M.M$5.2M.M3.4M21.2M.M.2M
2.4M6.M11.M$5.3M4.2M19.M4.M.M.M.2M9.M.4M.M$5.3M3.M20.2M.2M.M.M3.M.M4.
M4.2M.2M3.2M.2M$6.2M3.M.2M14.M2.3M3.M.3M.M.M10.M2.M3.M.M22.M$11.M2.M
13.3M.M5.M.2M2.M.M2.2M7.M.M3.M23.3M$9.2M16.2M2.2M5.3M.6M2.3M.2M2.M.M.
M3.2M3.3M3.3M8.M.2M$8.M2.M2.2M11.2M.2M6.3M2.M2.2M2.2M.M.3M.M2.M7.M2.M
3.M2.M8.3M$11.M15.2M2.2M.3M.M12.M9.3M2.M3.M3.M.M3.M8.2M$7.M3.M19.M.2M
2.M4.M8.M.2M6.3M4.M3.M.M.M.M2.M$11.M15.2M5.M26.3M3.5M.M2.M.5M.3M$8.M.
M23.M26.3M19.2M.2M$37.M23.2M4.16M3.2M$30.6M.2M27.M22.M$29.2M.M4.2M28.
23M$29.M.2M.4M53.M$33.4M30.25M$28.M.2M.3M30.M26.M$27.M2.M36.27M$27.M
4.2M61.M$33.M33.29M$27.M38.M30.M$26.2M.M.M2.2M31.31M$27.M6.3M62.M$26.
M2.M6.M30.33M$27.3M3.M32.M34.M24.2M$27.3M3.M2.M30.35M23.4M$35.M67.M
21.2M.2M$56.2M9.37M16.M6.2M$29.pA27.M8.M38.M14.2M$28.2pA3.pA22.M3.M6.
39M10.2M4.2M$28.2pA2.3pA14.2M4.M.4M46.M7.3M3.3M$31.2pA.pA15.M4.M.M9.
41M7.3M4.2M$31.3pA16.M.2M.M3.2M5.M42.M3.2M.M3.2M$31.3pA17.M.M2.M3.M6.
43M5.M4.M6.2M$32.2pA15.M.M3.M2.M52.M3.M9.2M.2M$49.2M.M2.M.3M7.44M3.M
10.4M$52.M.3M3.M5.M45.2M12.2M$49.2M.M.M.2M2.M6.44M$49.2M.M.M3.M.2M47.
M$28.2M8.M13.M4.2M2.M5.42M$27.2M3.M4.2M9.M.2M.M.M3.M6.M40.M$26.2M2.2M
4.M3.3M5.2M.M.M2.2M.2M6.40M$27.M4.5M.M4.M9.M.M2.M46.M$31.M4.M.M13.2M.
2M.M8.38M$28.2M3.2M.2M.M3.M7.M2.M3.2M6.M36.M$31.2M4.M10.2M2.M5.M8.36M
$21.5M3.2M5.M10.M2.2M3.2M.M42.M$21.M4.2M.M2.M14.2M.M6.M.2M6.34M$21.M
6.M21.M.M.3M2.M6.M32.M$22.M5.2M.M18.M6.M.M.M5.32M$24.2M2.M3.2M17.2M3.
M.M.M.M34.M$27.M28.2M2.M2.M3.30M$25.3M28.4M.M.M2.M28.M$24.M8.M5.M5.M
5.M5.M.M.2M4.28M$24.M4.M.M2.2M4.2M4.2M4.2M5.M33.M$24.M3.2M2.M.2M.2M.
2M.2M.2M.2M.2M.3M.M9.24M$25.M31.M.2M3.2M2.M22.M$26.31M7.2M2.23M$89.M$
28.31M3.27M$27.M31.M.M25.M$26.M3.30M.26M$23.M.M2.M2.M53.M$22.M2.M.M4.
53M$21.2M10.M49.M$20.M13.49M$19.4M12.M45.M$18.M4.M12.45M$18.M2.M15.M
41.M$18.M2.M16.41M$19.M19.M37.M$20.4M.M14.37M$21.M3.M15.M33.M$22.M19.
33M$22.M.M18.M29.M$44.29M$21.3M21.M25.M$21.2M23.25M$21.3M23.M21.M$48.
21M$22.M.M24.M17.M$22.M27.17M$21.M3.M25.M13.M$20.4M.M26.13M$19.M33.M
9.M$18.M2.M32.9M$18.M2.M36.M$18.M4.M31.3M.3M$19.4M33.M3.M$20.M34.M.M.
M.M$21.2M32.M.M.M.M$22.M2.M28.M7.M$23.M.M28.M7.M$54.M2.M.M2.M$54.3M3.
3M!
You forgot about the...whatever a trombone slide in a grayship would be called:

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x = 122, y = 111, rule = B3/S23
bo$3o5b3o12bo5bo$ob2o4bo2bo4b3o3b3o3b3o$b3o2bo9bo2bob2obo3bob2o$b3ob2o
bo3bo2bo2b2ob3o5b3o$b2o3bobo2b2o2b5o2b2o5b2o$11b2o9b2o$12bo3bo3bo2bo2b
2o37b3o$17bo2b2obo7b3o24b3o3bo2bo$12b4o3b2o6bo3bo2bo6b3o3b3o8bo2bo5bo
$11bo2b3o4bo2b4o3bo2bo6bo2bo2bo2bo7bo8bo$12b2obobobo2bobo5bo3b2o4bo3b
o2bo10bo3bobobo$10bo4bo3bobob2o2bo3b3o2b2o2b2ob2o3bo2bo3bo2bo$10bo4bo
8b5o3b2ob3ob2o8b3o2b3obo3bo7b3o$14b2o12bo5bo4b2o3b5o2b2obo3bo3b2o6bo2b
o$10bobobo13bo5b2o7bo4b4obobo2b3o2bo6bo$7bo3b2obo19b3o3b2o2bo4bo3bobo
6bo2bo4bo$6b3o3bo27b5o5bo2bobo2b4o4b2o3bobo$5b2obo3b4o21b2obob2o2b4o6b
o11bo$5b3o4b2o19bo4bobobob2o9bob4obo$5b3o3bo20b2ob2obobo3bobo4bo4b2ob
2o3b2ob2o$6b2o3bob2o14bo2b3o3bob3obobo10bo2bo3bobo22bo$11bo2bo13b3obo
5bob2o2bobo2b2o7bobo3bo23b3o$9b2o16b2o2b2o5b3ob6o2b3ob2o2bobobo3b2o3b
3o3b3o8bob2o$8bo2bo2b2o11b2ob2o6b3o2bo2b2o2b2obob3obo2bo7bo2bo3bo2bo8b
3o$11bo15b2o2b2ob3obo12bo9b3o2bo3bo3bobo3bo8b2o$7bo3bo19bob2o2bo4bo8b
ob2o6b3o4bo3bobobobo2bo$11bo15b2o5bo26b3o3b5obo2bob5ob3o$8bobo23bo26b
3o19b2ob2o$37bo23b2o4b16o3b2o$30b6ob2o27bo22bo$29b2obo4b2o28b23o$29bo
b2ob4o53bo$33b4o30b25o$28bob2ob3o30bo26bo24b2o$27bo2bo36b27o23b4o$27b
o4b2o61bo21b2ob2o$33bo33b29o16bo6b2o$27bo38bo30bo14b2o$26b2obobo2b2o31b
31o10b2o4b2o$27bo6b3o62bo7b3o3b3o$26bo2bo6bo30b33o7b3o4b2o$27b3o3bo32b
o34bo3b2obo3b2o$27b3o3bo2bo30b35o5bo4bo6b2o$35bo67bo3bo9b2ob2o$56b2o9b
36o3bo10b4o$29bo27bo8bo37b2o12b2o$28b2o3bo22bo3bo6b36o$28b2o2b3o14b2o
4bob4o40bo$31b2obo15bo4bobo9b34o$31b3o16bob2obo3b2o5bo32bo$31b3o17bob
o2bo3bo6b32o$32b2o15bobo3bo2bo38bo$49b2obo2bob3o7b30o$52bob3o3bo5bo28b
o$49b2obobob2o2bo6b28o$49b2obobo3bob2o31bo$28b2o8bo13bo4b2o2bo5b26o$27b
2o3bo4b2o9bob2obobo3bo6bo24bo$26b2o2b2o4bo3b3o5b2obobo2b2ob2o6b24o$27b
o4b5obo4bo9bobo2bo30bo$31bo4bobo13b2ob2obo8b22o$28b2o3b2ob2obo3bo7bo2b
o3b2o6bo20bo$31b2o4bo10b2o2bo5bo8b20o$21b5o3b2o5bo10bo2b2o3b2obo26bo$
21bo4b2obo2bo14b2obo6bob2o6b18o$21bo6bo21bobob3o2bo6bo16bo$22bo5b2obo
18bo6bobobo5b16o$24b2o2bo3b2o17b2o3bobobobo18bo$27bo28b2o2bo2bo3b14o$
25b3o28b4obobo2bo12bo$24bo8bo5bo5bo5bo5bobob2o4b12o$24bo4bobo2b2o4b2o
4b2o4b2o5bo17bo$24bo3b2o2bob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob3obo9b8o$25bo31bob2o
3b2o2bo6bo$26b31o7b2o2b7o$73bo$28b31o3b11o$27bo31bobo9bo$26bo3b30ob10o
$23bobo2bo2bo37bo$22bo2bobo4b37o$21b2o10bo33bo$20bo13b33o$19b4o12bo29b
o$18bo4bo12b29o$18bo2bo15bo25bo$18bo2bo16b25o$19bo19bo21bo$20b4obo14b
21o$21bo3bo15bo17bo$22bo19b17o$22bobo18bo13bo$44b13o$21b3o21bo9bo$21b
2o23b9o$21b3o26bo$47b3ob3o$22bobo23bo3bo$22bo24bobobobo$21bo3bo21bobo
bobo$20b4obo20bo7bo$19bo26bo7bo$18bo2bo24bo2bobo2bo$18bo2bo24b3o3b3o$
18bo4bo$19b4o$20bo$21b2o$22bo2bo$23bobo!

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4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o![[ THEME 0 AUTOSTART GPS 8 Z 16 T 1 T 1 Z 19.027 T 2 T 2 Z 22.627 T 3 T 3 Z 26.909 T 4 T 4 Z 32 T 5 T 5 Z 38.055 T 6 T 6 Z 45.255 T 7 T 7 Z 53.817 LOOP 8 ]]

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