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## Thread for your unsure discoveries

For discussion of specific patterns or specific families of patterns, both newly-discovered and well-known.

### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

2718281828 wrote:If I got it correctly the relevant part of the 5 glider reaction is
x = 9, y = 4, rule = B3/S23b2o4b2o$o2b2ob3o$bobo$2bo! I looked for the resulting ash (including symmetries) in my 3G collision files, but the result is negative. Thanks for checking! I didn't really expect anything workable would show up in the 3G collisions -- even if the ash signature had happened to show up, quite likely the reaction wouldn't have been compatible with the other half of the loafer recipe. I have somewhat higher hopes for a workable solution with four gliders, since the search space is several orders of magnitude bigger. It seems like a good goal will be to produce a set of gencols input files, with a verified list of all the relevant 3-glider collisions of each type, say 3G-NW-NW-NE.col and 3G-NW-NE-SW.col. Maybe sorted in order of the population of the final output, or something along those lines? That would be a good fraction of the work needed to set up a "hashseq" database and search utility. To limit the size of the database, the 3G collision files could be truncated at some reasonable point, leaving out all the almost certainly useless huge ugly explosions, and then pick a reasonable range of locations for the fourth glider. -- Thinking about it again, it's probably worth keeping 72 separate sets of 3G collisions, 71 for the different 2G collisions and one more for all the simultaneous ones, and split each of the 72 sets up into categories along the lines of NW-NW-NE and NW-NE-SW. That allows 4G searches to be customized for each group, over time, and a lot of those could be exhaustive searches. (Apologies -- I've wandered off into hand-waving about vaporware again.) dvgrn Moderator Posts: 4777 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries dvgrn wrote:(Apologies -- I've wandered off into hand-waving about vaporware again.) I wouldn't worry about that. Often enough, one person's vague vapor can turn into another person's concrete inspiration. mniemiec Posts: 929 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mniemiec wrote:I am trying to list all important methuselahs below 10 bits. (Unfortunately, I've been somewhat mind-bogglingly slow in updating my site, but things are starting to come together, it shouldn't be that much longer.) Is there a list of all (small) methuselahs? I know the wiki list (http://www.conwaylife.com/wiki/Category:Methuselahs) and http://codercontest.com/mniemiec/meth.htm . But the latter seems to be very hand-made and not 'complete'. E.g. the (2glider) Octomino is listed as 7-cell methuselah, but there is a 6 cell preprocessor: x = 6, y = 2, rule = B3/S23o$b5o!

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

2718281828 wrote:
mniemiec wrote:I am trying to list all important methuselahs below 10 bits. (Unfortunately, I've been somewhat mind-bogglingly slow in updating my site, but things are starting to come together, it shouldn't be that much longer.)

Is there a list of all (small) methuselahs? ...

Well... in the list of related articles on that LifeWiki page, there's the List of Long-Lived Methuselahs.

That's probably about as good as you'll get for a list of "notweorthy" smallish methuselahs. If you find something that has both a smaller bounding box and a longer lifespan than the nearest entry in that table, then it might turn out to be worth adding a line to that table. In particular, some of simeks' recent discoveries should probably get added in there.

Please be warned, though: maintaining methuselah record lists is a painful and thankless task -- which is probably why simeks' results haven't been added there yet. There are too many marginal methuselahs requiring arbitrary judgment calls and decisions that (it will turn out after you've made them) no one else exactly agrees with. Personally I've generally tried to avoid the whole subject, in the hope that people will eventually shift their attention to something more interesting and less messy.

-- On the other hand, there are some really fascinating power laws dictating how long a randomly chosen pattern will stay active. So spmetimes it can be hard to look away --!

About the other link: mniemiec was talking about an update that hasn't happened quite yet, that will probably have a methuselah list that's a good bit less random and more complete. But it won't be showing up on that old codercontest.com site. A quick note for anyone who is creating or updating links: the long-term home of Mark's database is going to be

http://conwaylife.com/ref/mniemiec/lifepage.htm

2718281828 wrote:6 cell preprocessor ...

Here's something that maybe isn't really worth mentioning, but I'll mention it anyway. You seem to be consistently using "preprocessor" instead of "predecessor". Also in your three-glider collisions post you used "Heisenburb" a couple of times. I do like that spelling, but the term is usually "Heisenburp".

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

dvgrn wrote:That's probably about as good as you'll get for a list of "notweorthy" smallish methuselahs.

The original definition of methuselah was patterns less than 10 bits that take more than 50 generations to stabilize. (See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methuselah_(cellular_automaton)) I think the reason for this was that the smallest moving or expanding patterns (glider, R-pentomino, Pi-heptomino) have 5 bits; with a population limit under 10 bits, you can't have more than one of these. You might have an R-pentomino firing a glider at a blonk arbitrary far away, but the results of that will be trivial. It does start to get complicated when you have two distant R-pentminos shooting gliders at each other.
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

this might be a useful component for a still life:
x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S237b2o$2o4bo2bo$b2o3bob2o$o4b2obo$5bo2bo$6b2o! see gen 20. x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

No football of any dui mauris said that.

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

83bismuth38 wrote:this might be a useful component for a still life:
x = 10, y = 6, rule = B3/S237b2o$2o4bo2bo$b2o3bob2o$o4b2obo$5bo2bo$6b2o! see gen 20. This almost does domething: x = 26, y = 27, rule = B3/S2321bo$19b2o$20b2o3$10b2o$9bo2bo$9bo2bo$10b2o3$2o$b2o$o$14b2o$7b3o3bo2bo$9bo3bob2o$8bo3b2obo8b2o$12bo2bo7b2o$13b2o10bo5$20b3o$20bo$21bo! Otherwise there's this, which doesn't reduce anything: x = 27, y = 23, rule = B3/S2321bo$19b2o$20b2o7$7b2o$3o3bo2bo$2bo3bob2o$bo3b2obo8b2o$5bo2bo7b2o6b2o$6b2o10bo4b4o$22b2ob2o$23b2o$15b2o$14b2o$16bo$b2o$2b2o$bo! LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1753 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A what looks like a new way to restore bait from a Pi explosion, but I'm not sure if it can do anything useful. Any takers? x = 28, y = 20, rule = B3/S23o6b2o5b2o$b2o4b2o5b2o3b2o$2o17b2o5b2o$26bo$24bobo$24b2o4$24b2o$24bobo$26bo$26b2o2$10b2o$10b2o$17b2o$17bo$18b3o$20bo!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Anyone needing an compact single/double-snark-into-syringe? This syringe variant is not new, but it rarely shows up in the forums, for reasons that are beyond me since it is superior (farther to the H) to the commonly used one in my opinion (not trying to build it from gliders, lol). I know that the bounding box is slightly larger, but feels like the bounding diamond (or lozange) is more proper since signal is transmitted with gliders mostly (and this syringe variant wins in that case).

x = 78, y = 173, rule = LifeHistory76.AB$75.AB$74.B3A$73.4B$72.4B$71.4B$70.4B$69.4B$68.4B$67.4B$66.4B$65.4B$64.4B$63.4B$62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.4B$58.4B$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B$53.4B$52.4B$51.4B$36.A13.4B$36.3A10.4B$39.A8.4B$38.2A7.4B$38.5B3.4B$40.3B2.4B$30.2A7.9B$30.A8.8B$27.2A.A.B3.10B$27.A2.3AB.2B2A7B$28.2A2.BA3B2A7B$30.4A12B$30.A.2B3.7B.B2A$31.3AB2.7B.BA.A2.2A$34.A3.5B5.A2.A$29.5A5.4B5.3A2.A$29.A10.4B7.3A$31.A9.4B5.A$30.2A10.4B4.2A$35.2A6.9B$36.A7.6B$36.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.2B$37.A2.A4.19BD$38.2AB3.20BDBD$39.14B2A9B3DB$40.13B2A11BD$41.24B$41.17B.4B$42.15B3.4B$42.15B3.3B$43.13B5.A2B.2A$45.13B2.A.A2B.A$44.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A$44.6B6.2ABA4.A$44.5B8.B2.5A.A$44.B.B8.A.3A5.A.A$45.3B7.2A3.4A2.A$44.B2AB10.2A2.A.2A$45.2A8.3A.A$55.A10$31.2A$31.A.A$33.A4.2A$29.4A.2A2.A2.A$29.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$31.BABABA.A$32.B2ABA.A$33.2B.BA$32.3B$23.2A6.4B$24.A6.B2A3B$24.A.AB3.B2A3B$25.2AB.10B$27.13B$27.14B$27.15B$29.8B2.4B10.A$29.6B5.4B7.3A$28.9B4.4B5.A$27.4B4.2A5.4B4.2A$26.4B5.A7.9B$25.4B7.3A5.6B$24.4B11.A5.6B3.B2.2B2.2B$23.4B9.2A2.A2.B.19BD$22.4B9.A2.2A24BDBD$21.4B10.2A2.14B2A9B3DB$20.4B16.13B2A11BD$19.4B17.25B$18.4B19.17B.4B$17.4B21.15B3.4B$16.4B22.15B3.3B$15.4B24.13B5.A2B.2A$14.4B27.13B2.A.A2B.A$13.4B27.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A$12.4B28.6B6.2ABA4.A$11.4B29.5B8.B2.5A.A$10.4B30.B.B8.A.3A5.A.A$9.4B32.3B7.2A3.4A2.A$8.4B32.B2AB10.2A2.A.2A$7.4B34.2A8.3A.A$6.4B45.A$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.4B$3AB$.BA$BA2$31.2A$31.A.A$33.A4.2A$29.4A.2A2.A2.A$29.A2.A.A.A.A.2A$31.BABABA.A$32.B2ABA.A$33.2B.BA$32.3B$23.2A6.4B$24.A6.B2A3B$24.A.AB3.B2A3B$25.2AB.10B$27.13B$27.14B$27.15B$29.8B2.4B10.A$30.5B5.4B7.3A$28.9B4.4B5.A$15.2A10.4B4.2A5.4B4.2A$16.A9.4B5.A7.9B$14.A10.4B7.3A5.6B$14.5A5.4B5.3A3.A5.6B3.B2.2B2.2B$19.A4.4B5.A2.2A2.A2.B.19BD$16.3AB2.7B.BA.A.A2.2A24BDBD$15.A.2B3.7B.B2A2.2A2.14B2A9B3DB$15.4A12B4.A4.13B2A11BD$13.2A2.BA3B2A7B6.A2.25B$12.A2.3AB.2B2A7B5.2A3.17B.4B$12.2A.A.B3.10B11.15B3.4B$15.A8.8B10.15B3.3B$15.2A7.9B10.13B5.A2B.2A$25.3B2.4B11.13B2.A.A2B.A$23.5B3.4B9.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A$23.2A7.4B8.6B6.2ABA4.A$24.A8.4B7.5B8.B2.5A.A$21.3A10.4B6.B.B8.A.3A5.A.A$21.A13.4B6.3B7.2A3.4A2.A$36.4B4.B2AB10.2A2.A.2A$37.4B4.2A8.3A.A$38.4B13.A$39.4B$40.4B$41.4B$42.4B$43.B3A$44.AB$45.AB!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Cordership-rake-breeder:
If this reaction is known,
x = 67, y = 69, rule = B3/S2331b2o$30b3o$29bob2o$14bo13bo$14bo12bo3b2o3bo$14bo11bo$27bobo$29bo$13bo13bobo4bo$5b2o4b2ob2o$5b2o20b4o$14bobo12b2o$12bo3bo$b2o9bo2b2o$3bo9b3o$5bo2bo5bo$b5o2bo$2b4ob2o$b2o$3o$3o16b3o$12bo6bobo3b2o$10b2ob2o3bo3bo2b2o$10bo6bobo2bo14bobo$10bo3bo25bo$11b3o4b3o15bo2bo$19bo15bobo$34bo$33b3o$19bo2bo12bo$19bo2bo13b2o23b2o$21b2o12bo24b3o$34bo2bo21bob2o$35bobo6bo13bo$37bo6bo12bo3b2o3bo$44bo11bo$57bobo$59bo$43bo13bobo4bo$41b2ob2o$57b4o$44bobo12b2o$42bo3bo$42bo2b2o$43b3o$44bo6$55b2o$55b2o4$41b2o$41b2o2$47b2o$47b2o4$16b6o$15bo5bo$21bo$15bo4bo$17b2o!

all the rest is trivial.

x = 1152, y = 426, rule = 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The hwss-rakes are minimal optimized.
Is there a mono-spaceship, witch can replace the cordership-konglomerate on the second example.
christoph r.

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Not sure if it is known or interesting, but this is likely the smallest Heisenburp in terms of size and bounding box just involving gliders
x = 7, y = 8, rule = B3/S233bobo$4b2o$4bo2$5bo$2o2b2o$b2obobo$o!

the smallest and trivial one should be
x = 5, y = 5, rule = B3/S23bo$o$2bobo$3b2o$3bo!

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

As a random Cool Thing, here's a Bellman-derived catalyst with an interesting mechanism of action. Not as general as I'd hoped, but still returns results from H and R signals.

x = 11, y = 15, rule = B3/S235bo$2o2bobo2b2o$o3bobo3bo$b3obob3o$3bobobo$3bobo$4b2o6$7b2o$8b2o$8bo! Tanner Jacobi Kazyan Posts: 748 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Component: x = 13, y = 13, rule = B3/S2311bo$10bo$2bo7b3o$3bo3bo$b3ob2o$6b2o$9b3o$b2o6bo$o2bo6bo$3o$3b3o$2bo2bo$3b2o! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1631 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Is this catalysis known? x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S2314b2o$12bo2bo$11bob2o$11bobo$10b2obo$2b3o3bo3bo$bo3bo2b4o$o5bo$o5bo3b2o$o5bo4bo$bo3bo2b3o$2b3o3bo$10b3o$11bo2bo$9bo3b2o$9b2o!
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Bullet51

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Bullet51 wrote:Is this catalysis known?
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S2314b2o$12bo2bo$11bob2o$11bobo$10b2obo$2b3o3bo3bo$bo3bo2b4o$o5bo$o5bo3b2o$o5bo4bo$bo3bo2b3o$2b3o3bo$10b3o$11bo2bo$9bo3b2o$9b2o! Yes, and it's equivalent to two eaters: x = 12, y = 11, rule = B3/S2310b2o$10bo$2b3o3bobo$bo3bo2b2o$o5bo$o5bo$o5bo$bo3bo2b2o$2b3o3bobo$10bo$10b2o! There are cases involving welds in which yours works and two eaters don't, however. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1631 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Don't know if this is known or not: x = 31, y = 39, rule = B3/S237b2o$7bobo$8bo2$15b2o$15b2o$4b2o$4b2o2b3o10b2o$8bo4b3o4bobo$8bobo4bo5bo$13bobo2$7bobo$bo5bo4bobo$obo4b3o4bo$2o10b3o2b2o$17b2o$6b2o$6b2o2$23b2o$23b2o$12b2o$12b2o2b3o10b2o$16bo4b3o4bobo$16bobo4bo5bo$21bobo2$15bobo$9bo5bo4bobo$8bobo4b3o4bo$8b2o10b3o2b2o$25b2o$14b2o$14b2o2$22bo$21bobo$22b2o!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Aidan F. Pierce

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

A for awesome wrote:Don't know if this is known or not:
[p11 pinwheel interaction]

Yup, it looks like Nicolay Beluchenko mentioned that interaction in 2009, along with two other options involving barges:

x = 103, y = 77, rule = B3/S2323boo62boo$23bobo61bobo$24bo63bo$$23boo62boo22bobboo4boo53bobboo4boo21bo7bo3bo51bo7bo3bo21bo6b3o3bobboo27boo17bo6b3o3bobboo7boo14bobb3o5bobobo27bobo18bobb3o5bobobo7bobo12boobobboo3bo3bo29bo18boobobboo3bo3bo8bo14b3o4bobbo53b3o4bobbo24bo5bo35boo20bo5bo7boo12bobbo4b3o33bobboo4boo9bobbo4b3o6bobboo4boo4bo3boobboboo31bo7bo3bo4bo3bo3boobboboo5bo7bo3bobbo5b3obbo32bo6b3o3bobbobobo5b3obbo5bo6b3o3bobo3b3o6bo32bobb3o5bobobobbo3b3o6bo7bobb3o5bobbo3bo7bo31boobobboo3bo3bo4bo3bo7bo6boobobboo3bo4boo4boobbo33b3o4bobbo9boo4boobbo7b3o4bobbo12boo35bo5bo20boo8bo5bo49bobbo4b3o5bobbo4b3o14bo29bo3bo3boobboboo18bobo3bo3boobboboo12bobo27bobobo5b3obbo18boboobobo5b3obbo14boo27boobbo3b3o6bo17boooobbo3b3o6bo46bo3bo7bo5bo3bo7bo47boo4boobbo6boo4boobbo56boo14boo73bo14bo57bobo13bobo57boo14boo1051boo50bobo51bo$$51boo$43boo4boobbo$42bo3bo7bo$37boobbo3b3o6bo$37bobobo5b3obbo$38bo3bo3boobboboo$42bobbo4b3o$45bo5bo$44b3o4bobbo$43boobobboo3bo3bo$30boo12bobb3o5bobobo$30bobo9bo6b3o3bobboo$31bo10bo7bo3bo$43bobboo4boo$30boo12boo$29bobboo4boo$28bo7bo3bo4bo$28bo6b3o3bobbobo$30bobb3o5bobobo$29boobobboo3bo3bo$30b3o4bobbo$31bo5bo$28bobbo4b3o$24bo3bo3boobboboo$23bobobo5b3obbo$23boobbo3b3o6bo$28bo3bo7bo$29boo4boobbo$37boo$$37bo36bobo37boo! dvgrn Moderator Posts: 4777 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries 4-glider synthesis of a Rabbits relative. Stabilizes at T=17,420. x = 16, y = 7, rule = B3/S239b3o9bo10bo13b2ob2o5b2o3boboobo6b2o2bo2bo5bo! EDIT: Also this simple predecessor that leads to many 4-glider syntheses: x = 7, y = 6, rule = B3/S235b2o4b2o2o4boob2o3bob3o! gmc_nxtman Posts: 1117 Joined: May 26th, 2015, 7:20 pm ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A still life with only 126 1-generation predecessors fitting entirely within the blue area (the intersection of its bounding box and zone of influence: x = 17, y = 17, rule = LifeHistory2B2A3BA3B2ABA2BBABA2BABA2BAB2A2BA2BABABABABA3B2AAB2ABA2BABAB2ABABBA2BABABABA2BABAB3BA2B2ABABA2BA2B2B2ABA3BA2B2A3B.2BAB2ABABABA4B3BABA3BABA2BA2B2B2A3B2A2BAB2A2BA2BA2B2A3BABA3B2ABABA3BABABABABBABAB2AB3ABABABAA2BABA6BA2B2AB2A3BAB3ABA4B3B2ABABA2BA5B3BABA3B2A3B! In particular, most of the potential modifications are in the southwestern interior, and in the north and east the only predecessors are the still life and simple modifications to its edge. This was manually generated. EDIT: Further testing with JLS confirms 24 other 2-generation predecessors evolving in the same region and no distinct 3-generation ones. x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)$$x_1=\eta xV^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1631 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries I tried placing two period 96 Cordership backward rakes symmetrically so that they were moving apart and having each other's glider streams react with the other rake. I wondered if a moving sawtooth could result. I didn't find one in a simple search using a simple backward rake, but did find one using a compound backward rake. #C A moving sawtooth using two diagonal period 96 Cordership backrakes#C receding symmetrically from each other while shooting each other.#C This is shown at the minimum repeating population of 974.#C David I. Bell, 24 November 2017x = 253, y = 230138b3o137bo3bo136bo3boo137bo138b4o140boboo140bobbo141boo12boo155boo3140bo140bo139bobo140bo140boo21boo140b3o20boo$$138bo4boo$138bo5bo$138bo5bo$143bo$132bo$131b3o$130boobbo$129boobboo$130boo$131b5o$135boo$133bobbo$134boo5$132b3o$132bobo$132bo$132bobbo$133bobo$132boobbo$134bobo$130bobboobbo$131bobbobbo$135bobo$$119bo119b4o5booboo3bo6boo119bo3bo5boboobboo6boo130booboobbo121b3o10bobo135boo4151boo151boo145boo145boo144bobbo113bo27bobboboo113bo26bobbo113bo27bobo116boo116boo111bo3b3o118boo112b3o121boo113bo89b3o20boo112b3o93bo20bo89bo3boo12bo4bo111boo91bobo13boo5bo88b3o16bobobb3o129boo90bo153boo106boo89boo16boo90boo14bobbo86boo90bo15b3o87boo25bobo90boo89boo132bobo$$192boo$192bobo$194boo$193bo10boo27bo$105boo84bobo10boo26b3o11boo$104b3o83boo39boobbo9bobbo$104bobbo82b3o38b6obobo4bo4boo$105b3o124b3obbobbo5b3oboo$94boo9b3o124boo4bobo7bo3bo$94boo137boo14b3o$126bo75bobo3boo39b3o$126bobo72bobbo3booboo10boo$126boo73bobbo4boobbo8bobo$202boo6bobboobo5bobboboo$68b3o140bob3oboo4b3obobo$67bo136bo4bo6bo8bo3bo$66bo4boo29boo100boo3bobo13bo3bo$65bo3bo15b3o14boo99bo6bo15bobo$65bobbo4bo4boo124bobo20bo$65bo3bo3bo4b3obo77bo44bo$66boobob3o84boo$69bo89boo$70b4o20boo49boo35bo$72boo11boboo5boo48bobbo$85bobbo56boo56boo$85b3o114b3o$141bo61boo$140bobo62bo$140bobo28bo33bo$66bo74bo28bobo32bo$61bobbobobbo3bo28boo67bo3bo12bo$61bo4boob5o28boo17b3o51bo11b3o$61bo3bo4bobo102bo$77bo102bobo4bo3bo$63b3o11bo51b3o17boo28b5oboo4bo$64bo12bo3bo67boo28bo3bobbobobbo$47bo32bobo28bo74bo$47bo33bo28bobo$47bo62bobo$48boo61bo$48b3o114b3o$48boo56boo56bobbo$105bobbo48boo5boobo11boo$70bo35boo49boo20b4o$92boo89bo$93boo84b3oboboo$47bo44bo77bob3o4bo3bo3bo$25bo20bobo124boo4bo4bobbo$24bobo15bo6bo99boo14b3o15bo3bo$23bo3bo13bobo3boo100boo29boo4bo$23bo3bo8bo6bo4bo136bo$23bobob3o4boob3obo140b3o$24boobobbo5boboobbo6boo$28bobo8bobboo4bobbo73boo$28boo10booboo3bobbo72bobo$b3o39boo3bobo75bo$b3o14boo137boo$o3bo7bobo4boo124b3o9boo$boob3o5bobbobb3o124b3o$boo4bo4bobob6o38b3o82bobbo$4bobbo9bobboo39boo83b3o$5boo11b3o26boo10bobo84boo$19bo27boo10bo$57boo$58bobo$59boo$$27bobo132boo161boo27bobo25boo87b3o15bo55boo86bobbo14boo144boo16boo145boo7boo153bo7boo129b3obbobo16b3o138bo5boo13bobo27boo111bo4bo12boo3bo138bo20bo138b3o139boo20b3o139bo15boo121b3o15boo118b3o3bo135boo135boo109bobo27bo109bobbo26bo105boobobbo27bo105bobbo106boo106boo100boo100boo4116boo116bobo10b3o115bobbooboo108boo6boobboobo5bo3bo108boo6bo3booboo5b4o133bo$$115bobo$115bobbobbo$115bobboobbo$116bobo$116bobboo$117bobo$117bobbo$120bo$118bobo$118b3o5$117boo$116bobbo$116boo$117b5o$121boo$118boobboo$118bobboo$119b3o$120bo$109bo$108bo5bo$108bo5bo$108boo4bo$$88boo20b3o88boo21boo112bo111bobo112bo112bo396boo96boo12boo109bobbo109boobo111b4o115bo111boo3bo111bo3bo112b3o! While looking for a sawtooth, I found several other reactions of interest. #C Two Cordership backward rakes shooting at each other symmetrically#C creates two pseudo-random lines of constellations.#C David I. Bell, 24 November 2017x = 236, y = 231133boobo132b3obo6bobo131bo4bobo4bo132boo6bobo3bo133bo3bobbobboo136boboo3bo135bobo16boo135bobo16boo7162boo153boo7boo140bo9bob4o135bo3b5o5boobo3boo134bobo7boo4bobbooboo134bo7boboo5b6o135bo8boo6bo136bo3b4o141b3o125bobo9boo125bobobo6bobo124bobboobo4boo125boo3boboboobo125boo3boob5o129boboo3boo128bobo9134bo119bo14boo119bo15boo119bo15boo122boo10bo122boo10bo117bo3b3o118b3o119bo22boo118boo22boo118b3o120bo118bo120bo118b3o3108bo107bobo32boobboo142b6o107bobbo3bob3o23boobboo88bo20bo4bo110boboobobo92bo18boo3bo112bo84b3obo84b3obo85bo8boo86bo3b3oboo87bo6bo38bo86boo88bobobobo38bobo84boo89bo15boo26boo105boo3106boo5b3o101bo104boo9bo101boo104bo4bo106bobbo8boo104booboboobboo102bobo8boo106bobbo106bobbo107bo108bobbo95b3o118bobo93bo3boo118b3o87b3o3bobobboo6bobo92bo5bo7bobbo93bobboo7bo3bo68bo93bo12bobbo67b3o52bo106b3o107bo15b3o215b3o13b4o99b3o75b3o8boo24bo3bo12bobo101bo76bo9boo23booboo13bo93boo119bobobo93boo4b3o113b4o13bo68b3o29boo107bobo3boobo12boo68bobo27boboo110bo3bo13b4o67bo3bo25bobb5o103bo3bobboo12bo67bo3bo25bobbob3o89boo11booboo3b3o10boo3b3o67bo17boo16boo63bo24bobbo12bo5bobbo9boo4bo67bo4boo11boo79boo29bo18boo14bobo67bo6bo92boo23boobbo11boo22bobo68bo5bo132bo24b3o68boo47bo89bobbo70bo3bo42bobo85boobo71bobo10boo31boo88bobb3o85bo119boo84b3o6boo116boo68b3o22boo113booboo67bo3bo13bo123bobo68bobbo14bo42boo79bo56boo12boo13boo41bobbo60bo56b3o26bo43boo60b3o56boobo60bo21bobbo39bo58bobo4bo3bo52bo3boo3bo11boo7bob4o13boo21bobo9bo17boo27b5oboo4bo62bo10boo9bo16boo21bobo7boo20bo19boo5bo3bobbobobbo59bobo19bo4boo37bo9boo11boo4boo18b4o12bo59bo21bobo64boo54bo4bobo112bobo4bo86boo64bobo21bo45bo12b4o18boo4boo11boo9bo37boo4bo19bobo40bobbobobbo3bo5boo19bo20boo7bobo21boo16bo9boo10bo40bo4boob5o27boo17bo9bobo21boo13b4obo7boo11bo3boo3bo40bo3bo4bobo58bo39bobbo21bo176boboo42b3o60boo43bo26b3o43bo60bobbo41boo13boo12boo25bo79boo42bo14bobbo24bobo123bo13bo3bo23booboo113boo22b3o23boo116boo6b3o29boo119bo23b3obbo88boo31boo10bobo27boboo85bobo42bo3bo25bobbo89bo47boob3o24bo132bo5bobobo22boo11bobboo23boo92bo6bobobo14boo18bo29boo79boo11boo4bobo4boo9bobbo5bo12bobbo24bo63boo16boo17bo3o3boo10b3o3booboo11boo89b3obobbo25bo3bo6bo12boobbo3bo103b5obbo25bo3bobb4o13bo3bo110boobo27bobo3boo12boboo3bobo107boo29b3o3bo13b4o113b3o4boo17bobobo119boo4bo13booboo23boo9bo76bobbobo12bo3bo24boo8b3o75b3ob4o13b3ob3o15bo107b3o3bo52b3o67bobbo12bo57bo68bo3bo7boobbo126bobbo7bo5bo127bobo6boobbobo3b3o16b3o118boo3bo17bobo118b3o16bobbo108bo16bobbo106bobbo6boo8bobo102boobbooboboo6boo8bobbo106bo4bo17boo101bo9boo18bo101b3o5boo3129boo101boo26boo15bo14boo84bobo38bobobobo14boo86bo38bo6bo140boob3o3bo140boo8bo147bob3o147bob3o123bo119bo3boo18bo118boboboobo121bo4bo20bo88boobboo23b3obo3bobbo88b6o88boobboo32bobo127bo3115b3o115bo117bo115bo115b3o92boo22boo92boo22bo115b3o112b3o3bo101bo10boo101bo10boo99boo15bo99boo15bo100boo14bo101bo9105bobo98boo3boobo98b5oboo3boo98boboobobo3boo99boo4boboobbo97bobo6bobobo97boo9bobo92b3o92b4o3bo83bo6boo8bo79b6o5boobo7bo78booboobbo4boo7bobo78boo3boboo5b5o3bo80b4obo9bo72boo7boo72boo780boo16bobo80boo16bobo92bo3boobo91boobbobbo3bo89bo3bobo6boo92bo4bobo4bo90bobo6bob3o99boboo! #C Two Cordership backward rakes shooting at each other symmetrically#C produces two pseudo-random streams of gliders.#C David I. Bell, 24 November 2017x = 245, y = 241133boobo132b3obo6bobo131bo4bobo4bo132boo6bobo3bo133bo3bobbobboo136boboo3bo135bobo16boo135bobo16boo7162boo153boo7boo140bo9bob4o135bo3b5o5boobo3boo134bobo7boo4bobbooboo134bo7boboo5b6o135bo8boo6bo136bo3b4o141b3o125bobo9boo125bobobo6bobo124bobboobo4boo125boo3boboboobo125boo3boob5o129boboo3boo128bobo9134bo119bo14boo119bo15boo119bo15boo122boo10bo122boo10bo117bo3b3o118b3o119bo22boo118boo22boo118b3o120bo118bo120bo118b3o3108bo107bobo32boobboo142b6o107bobbo3bob3o23boobboo88bo20bo4bo110boboobobo92bo18boo3bo112bo84b3obo84b3obo85bo8boo86bo3b3oboo87bo6bo38bo88bobobobo38bobo89bo15boo26boo105boo3106boo5b3o104boo9bo104bo4bo104booboboobboo106bobbo119boo107bo121boo95b3o93bo3boo87b3o3bobobboo6bobo92bo5bo7bobbo93bobboo7bo3bo116bo93bo12bobbo116boo106b3o116bobbo8boo226bobo8boo99b3o123bobbo101bo123bobbo93boo130bobo93boo4b3o124b3o68b3o29boo68bobo27boboo67bo3bo25bobb5o82bo67bo3bo25bobbob3o81b3o52bo67bo17boo16boo120bo15b3o67bo4boo11boo137b3o13b4o67bo6bo111b3o8boo24bo3bo12bobo68bo5bo112bo9boo23booboo13bo68boo47bo105bobobo70bo3bo42bobo104b4o13bo71bobo10boo31boo99bobo3boobo12boo85bo135bo3bo13b4o84b3o6boo122bo3bobboo12bo68b3o22boo108boo11booboo3b3o10boo3b3o67bo3bo13bo91bo24bobbo12bo5bobbo9boo4bo68bobbo14bo88boo29bo18boo14bobo56boo12boo13boo89boo23boobbo11boo22bobo56b3o26bo130bo24b3o56boobo156bobbo60bo21bobbo128boobo52bo3boo3bo11boo7bob4o13boo113bobb3o62bo10boo9bo16boo111boo59bobo19bo4boo132boo59bo21bobo133booboo54bo4bobo156bobo86boo50boo79bo45bo12b4o18boo4boo11boo9bo26bobbo60bo40bobbobobbo3bo5boo19bo20boo7bobo26boo60b3o40bo4boob5o27boo17bo9bobo40bo3bo4bobo58bo23bo58bobo4bo3bo133bobo9bo17boo27b5oboo4bo42b3o60boo26bobo7boo20bo19boo5bo3bobbobobbo43bo60bobbo26bo9boo11boo4boo18b4o12bo25bo79boo50boo24bobo156bobo4bo23booboo133bobo21bo23boo132boo4bo19bobo29boo111boo16bo9boo10bo23b3obbo113boo13b4obo7boo11bo3boo3bo27boboo128bobbo21bo25bobbo156boboob3o24bo130bo26b3obobo22boo11bobboo23boo89boo13boo12boobobo14boo18bo29boo88bo14bobbobo4boo9bobbo5bo12bobbo24bo91bo13bo3bo3o3boo10b3o3booboo11boo108boo22b3o6bo12boobbo3bo122boo6b3obb4o13bo3bo135bo3boo12boboo3bobo99boo31boo10bobo3bo13b4o104bobo42bo3bo17bobobo105bo47boo4bo13booboo23boo9bo112bo5bobbobo12bo3bo24boo8b3o111bo6bob4o13b3o137boo11boo4bob3o15bo120boo16boo17bo3bo52b3o81b3obobbo25bo3bo57bo82b5obbo25bo3bo143boobo27bobo143boo29b3o16b3o124b3o4boo17bobo130boo16bobbo123bo16bobbo123b3o6boo8bobo6boo8bobbo116b3o17boo116bobbo12bo18bo116bo3bo7boobbo135bobbo7bo5bo136bobo6boobbobo3b3o146boo3bo147b3o14boo121bo14boo119bobbo130boobbooboboo135bo4bo129bo9boo129b3o5boo3138boo110boo26boo15bo109bobo38bobobobo111bo38bo6bo149boob3o3bo149boo8bo156bob3o156bob3o132bo128bo3boo18bo127boboboobo130bo4bo20bo97boobboo23b3obo3bobbo97b6o97boobboo32bobo136bo3124b3o124bo126bo124bo124b3o101boo22boo101boo22bo124b3o121b3o3bo110bo10boo110bo10boo108boo15bo108boo15bo109boo14bo110bo9114bobo107boo3boobo107b5oboo3boo107boboobobo3boo108boo4boboobbo106bobo6bobobo106boo9bobo101b3o101b4o3bo92bo6boo8bo88b6o5boobo7bo87booboobbo4boo7bobo87boo3boboo5b5o3bo89b4obo9bo81boo7boo81boo789boo16bobo89boo16bobo101bo3boobo100boobbobbo3bo98bo3bobo6boo101bo4bobo4bo99bobo6bob3o108boboo! #C Two Cordership backward rakes shooting at each other symmetrically#C produces increasingly large lines of gliders, apparently growing#C longer in a power of six.#C David I. Bell, 24 November 2017x = 249, y = 243133boobo132b3obo6bobo131bo4bobo4bo132boo6bobo3bo133bo3bobbobboo136boboo3bo135bobo16boo135bobo16boo7162boo153boo7boo140bo9bob4o135bo3b5o5boobo3boo134bobo7boo4bobbooboo134bo7boboo5b6o135bo8boo6bo136bo3b4o141b3o125bobo9boo125bobobo6bobo124bobboobo4boo125boo3boboboobo125boo3boob5o129boboo3boo128bobo9134bo119bo14boo119bo15boo119bo15boo122boo10bo122boo10bo117bo3b3o118b3o119bo22boo118boo22boo118b3o120bo118bo120bo118b3o3108bo107bobo32boobboo142b6o107bobbo3bob3o23boobboo88bo20bo4bo110boboobobo92bo18boo3bo112bo84b3obo84b3obo85bo8boo86bo3b3oboo87bo6bo38bo88bobobobo38bobo89bo15boo26boo105boo3106boo5b3o104boo9bo104bo4bo104booboboobboo106bobbo107bo95b3o135boo93bo3boo134boo87b3o3bobobboo6bobo92bo5bo7bobbo93bobboo7bo3bo93bo12bobbo106b3o121bo230boo99b3o127bobbo8boo101bo128bobo8boo93boo134bobbo93boo4b3o127bobbo68b3o29boo127bobo68bobo27boboo128b3o67bo3bo25bobb5o67bo3bo25bobbob3o67bo17boo16boo86bo67bo4boo11boo103b3o52bo67bo6bo154bo15b3o68bo5bo153b3o13b4o68boo47bo72b3o8boo24bo3bo12bobo70bo3bo42bobo71bo9boo23booboo13bo71bobo10boo31boo108bobobo85bo142b4o13bo84b3o6boo127bobo3boobo12boo68b3o22boo130bo3bo13b4o67bo3bo13bo135bo3bobboo12bo68bobbo14bo120boo11booboo3b3o10boo3b3o56boo12boo13boo94bo24bobbo12bo5bobbo9boo4bo56b3o26bo93boo29bo18boo14bobo56boobo120boo23boobbo11boo22bobo60bo21bobbo134bo24b3o52bo3boo3bo11boo7bob4o13boo117bobbo62bo10boo9bo16boo115boobo59bobo19bo4boo132bobb3o59bo21bobo134boo54bo4bobo162boo86boo133booboo45bo12b4o18boo4boo11boo9bo111bobo40bobbobobbo3bo5boo19bo20boo7bobo30boo79bo40bo4boob5o27boo17bo9bobo29bobbo60bo40bo3bo4bobo58bo31boo60b3o$$42b3o60boo31bo58bobo4bo3bo$43bo60bobbo29bobo9bo17boo27b5oboo4bo$25bo79boo30bobo7boo20bo19boo5bo3bobbobobbo$24bobo111bo9boo11boo4boo18b4o12bo$23booboo133boo$23boo162bobo4bo$29boo134bobo21bo$23b3obbo132boo4bo19bobo$27boboo115boo16bo9boo10bo$25bobbo117boo13b4obo7boo11bo3boo3bo$b3o24bo134bobbo21bo$bobo22boo11bobboo23boo120boboo$bobo14boo18bo29boo93bo26b3o$bo4boo9bobbo5bo12bobbo24bo94boo13boo12boo$3o3boo10b3o3booboo11boo120bo14bobbo$6bo12boobbo3bo135bo13bo3bo$bb4o13bo3bo130boo22b3o$3boo12boboo3bobo127boo6b3o$3bo13b4o142bo$17bobobo108boo31boo10bobo$4bo13booboo23boo9bo71bobo42bo3bo$bbobo12bo3bo24boo8b3o72bo47boo$b4o13b3o153bo5bo$b3o15bo154bo6bo$3bo52b3o103boo11boo4bo$57bo86boo16boo17bo$144b3obobbo25bo3bo$144b5obbo25bo3bo$16b3o128boobo27bobo$17bobo127boo29b3o$16bobbo127b3o4boo$16bobbo134boo$6boo8bobo128bo$6boo8bobbo127b3o$17boo$18bo121b3o$139bobbo12bo$139bo3bo7boobbo$139bobbo7bo5bo$140bobo6boobbobo3b3o$14boo134boo3bo$14boo135b3o$141bo$139bobbo$134boobbooboboo$139bo4bo$133bo9boo$133b3o5boo3$142boo$114boo26boo15bo$113bobo38bobobobo$115bo38bo6bo$153boob3o3bo$153boo8bo$160bob3o$160bob3o$136bo$132bo3boo18bo$131boboboobo$134bo4bo20bo$101boobboo23b3obo3bobbo$101b6o$101boobboo32bobo$140bo3$128b3o$128bo$130bo$128bo$128b3o$105boo22boo$105boo22bo$128b3o$125b3o3bo$114bo10boo$114bo10boo$112boo15bo$112boo15bo$113boo14bo$114bo9$118bobo$111boo3boobo$111b5oboo3boo$111boboobobo3boo$112boo4boboobbo$110bobo6bobobo$110boo9bobo$105b3o$105b4o3bo$96bo6boo8bo$92b6o5boobo7bo$91booboobbo4boo7bobo$91boo3boboo5b5o3bo$93b4obo9bo$85boo7boo$85boo7$93boo16bobo$93boo16bobo$105bo3boobo$104boobbobbo3bo$102bo3bobo6boo$105bo4bobo4bo$103bobo6bob3o$112boboo! #C Two Cordership backward rakes shooting at each other symmetrically#C produces lines of blocks and then deletes them again.#C David I. Bell, 24 November 2017x = 135, y = 8367bo3boobboobo$67bo3boo4boboo$67bo3boobbooboo34boo$71boo41boo$69bobbo$69bobo17boo$70bo18boo4$122boo$122boo$$97boo86boo9boo86b3o85bob3o70boobb5o7bob3o70bo7bo7b4o20b3o70bo4boboo8boo20bobbo74b3o32bo3bo108boobobo108booboo12b4o64boo3b4o36b3o12boo4bo59b3obobbo6bo50b3o4bo63bobbobb5o52bo5bo38b3o22bobbo57boo47bo17bo58boobboo4bo40boo5b3o12bobo38boo5b3o11bo9bo40b4o4bo14bo37b4o20bobbo3bo40boob3oboo77bo45bobo53bobo4bo18boobo103bo25bo101bobo100bo83bo17bo3boo3bo43bo38bobo17bo42bobo37bobo18boboo42bobo38bo20b3o43bo61boo428boo61bo28b3o20bo38bobo28boobo18bobo37bobo32bo17bobo38bo24bo3boo3bo17bo34bo31bobo5bo25bo4boboo18bo4bobo53bobo8bo77boob3oboobbo3bobbo20b4o37bo14bo4b4oo9bo11b3o5boo38bobo12b3o5booo4boobboo58bo17bo9boo57bobbo22b3obbo5bo52b5obbobbo3bo4b3o50bo6bobbob3o4bo4boo12b3o36b4o3boo6b4o12booboo21boboboo21bo3bo32b3o22bobbo20boo8boobo4bo22b3o20b4o7bo7bo44b3obo7b5obboo45b3obo46b3o36boo9boo36boo$$11boo$11boo4$44boo18bo$44boo17bobo$62bobbo$19boo41boo$19boo34booboobboo3bo$54boobo4boo3bo$56boboobboo3bo! Moving any of the two rakes apart by multiples of 16 cells results in the same behavior. The results can vary depending on the reaction used to generate the backward gliders. So it is worth looking at different backward rakes for more interesting reactions. BCNU, -dbell dbell Posts: 45 Joined: June 27th, 2013, 12:47 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Playing with the jagged-pattern i tried different periods. In this case i used 2 c/2-p32-b-lwss backrakes, 2 p32-rakes and 2 p16-rakes. And a gap! x = 319, y = 157, rule = B3/S23141bo35bo$134b3o3b3o33b3o3b3o$134bo2bo2bob2o31b2obo2bo2bo$134bo6b3o31b3o6bo$134bo3bo2b3o31b3o2bo3bo$135bo2bo2b3o31b3o2bo2bo$140bobo4b3o19b3o4bobo$132bo7b3o4bo2bo17bo2bo4b3o7bo$131b3o7bo5bo23bo5bo7b3o$130b2obo6b2o5bo3bo15bo3bo5b2o6bob2o$130b3o14bo3bo15bo3bo14b3o$130b3o14bo23bo14b3o$130b3o15bobo17bobo15b3o$131b2o53b2o$138bo41bo$138b3o37b3o2$139b4o33b4o$140bobo33bobo4$140b2o5b3o19b3o5b2o$140bo2bo2bo2bo19bo2bo2bo2bo$140bo2bo5bo19bo5bo2bo$140bo2bobo3bo19bo3bobo2bo$140bo2bo5bo19bo5bo2bo$141b2o3bobo21bobo3b2o$139bo39bo$138bo3b2o31b2o3bo$139bo3bo31bo3bo$140b3o33b3o4$138b2o39b2o$137bo2bo37bo2bo$138b2o39b2o11$180bo$181b2o$180b2o22$130bo57bo$128b2o59b2o$129b2o57b2o22$122bo73bo$120b2o75b2o$121b2o73b2o10$114bo89bo$114b2o87b2o$65bo4b3o40bobo87bobo40b3o4bo$64b3o3bo2bo171bo2bo3b3o$63b2obo3bo177bo3bob2o$63b3o4bo3bo169bo3bo4b3o$64b2o4bo3bo169bo3bo4b2o$69b2o177b2o$69b2o177b2o$70bobo173bobo$61b3o191b3o$61bo2bo5b2o5bo163bo5b2o5bo2bo$61bo14b3o161b3o14bo$61bo3bo9b2obo161bob2o9bo3bo$61bo3bo9b3o163b3o9bo3bo$61bo13b3o38bo85bo38b3o13bo$62bobo10b3o37bo87bo37b3o10bobo$76b2o37b3o83b3o37b2o3$69bobo175bobo$69b2o177b2o$70bo177bo2$7b6o22b5o34bo169bo34b5o22b6o$7bo5bo21bo4bo33b2o167b2o33bo4bo21bo5bo$7bo27bo37bobo167bobo37bo27bo$b2o5bo4bo22bo3bo237bo3bo22bo4bo5b2o$2ob2o5b2o26bo10b2o217b2o10bo26b2o5b2ob2o$b4o40bo3b2o217b2o3bo40b4o$2b2o7b2o20bo10bobo5bo2bo207bo2bo5bobo10bo20b2o7b2o$3bo7b2o19bobo9bobo9bo205bo9bobo9bobo19b2o7bo$bo3bo8bo12bo4bobo10bo6bo3bo15bobo169bobo15bo3bo6bo10bobo4bo12bo8bo3bo$o5bo8b2o2b2o2b2obobo4bo19b4o52bo99bo52b4o19bo4bobob2o2b2o2b2o8bo5bo$o5bo6b3o3b2o2b2obobo41bo5bo32bo99bo32bo5bo41bobob2o2b2o3b3o6bo5bo$6o6bobo8b2o2bo22bo19bo5b2o30bo101bo30b2o5bo19bo22bo2b2o8bobo6b6o$45b2obobo18b2obobo3bo161bo3bobob2o18bobob2o$44b2o23b3o2b2o36b2o91b2o36b2o2b3o23b2o$45b2ob2o23b6o32bo95bo32b6o23b2ob2o$46b3o23bo3bo165bo3bo23b3o$6b2o39bo24bo3bo17b2o127b2o17bo3bo24bo39b2o$5b2ob4o35b2o20bo5b2o17b2o127b2o17b2o5bo20b2o35b4ob2o$6b6o23b5o29bo179bo29b5o23b6o$7b4o24bo4bo29b2o175b2o29bo4bo24b4o$35bo8b2o227b2o8bo$36bo3bo2b2ob4o6b4o199b4o6b4ob2o2bo3bo$38bo5b6o5b6o197b6o5b6o5bo$45b4o5b2ob4o197b4ob2o5b4o$55b2o205b2o!

It looks similar this try, but has completly different mechanism. Every gap in the row of gliders leeds at its end to a leaving pair of 1lwss and 1 glider. The leaving glider reaches exactly the cell where the gap was made. And if the gap-making collision had made a pond, the result is a mess with 2 leaving gliders. It looks chaotic, but it is self similar andworks well. Even at a generation over 2e10 the 2 gliders out of the clashing lwsses dance between both sides.
christoph r.

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Here is a reaction which creates a symmetrical 26 cell still life. It is part of a reaction from hitting the busy bees shuttle with a pair of gliders.

#C Creation of a 26 cell symmetrical still life.x = 21, y = 19o19bo$boo15boo$oo17boo5$5boobo3boboo$6b3o3b3o$7bo5bo8$6boo5boo$6boo5boo! This is over 11 years old, so I don't remember whether I found it or copied it. BCNU, -dbell dbell Posts: 45 Joined: June 27th, 2013, 12:47 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries dbell wrote:Here is a reaction which creates a symmetrical 26 cell still life. It is part of a reaction from hitting the busy bees shuttle with a pair of gliders. ... The two blocks can be replaced by two gliders; I couldn't find a way to do it with one. x = 49, y = 31, rule = B3/S23o27bo$boo23boo$oo25boo$11bo5bo$12bo3bo$10b3o3b3o21bobooboobo$40booboboboo$9bo9bo23bobo$9boo7boo20booboboboo$8bobo7bobo19bobooboobo16$20boo$19boo$21bo$3b3o$5bo$4bo!
mniemiec

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

A T-nose with a population and bounding box as small as the original:

x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S234b3o2$3bo3bob2o$3bo3b2obo2$4b2o$2o2bo2b2o$2o2b2obobo$5bobobo$5bo2bo$6b2o!

EDIT: Smaller than the original in both respects:

x = 10, y = 13, rule = B3/S235bo$5bo$4b3o3$5b2o$2b2ob3o$bobo$bo4b4o$2bo$3bo$3o$o!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Kazyan wrote:A T-nose with a population and bounding box as small as the original:

x = 11, y = 11, rule = B3/S234b3o2$3bo3bob2o$3bo3b2obo2$4b2o$2o2bo2b2o$2o2b2obobo$5bobobo$5bo2bo$6b2o!

Final step for synthesis:
x = 33, y = 46, rule = B3/S2329bo$27b2o$28b2o$23bo$7bo13b2o$5bobo8bo5b2o$6b2o8bobo9bo$16b2o8b2o$27b2o$22bobo$22b2o$14bo8bo$8bo5bobo$9bo4b2o$7b3o2$25bo$23bobo$24b2o$4bo$2bobo21bo$3b2o11bob2o4b2o$16b2obo5b2o2$13b2o$13bo2b2o$14bobobo$12bobobobo$12b2o3bo$26bo$24b2o$25b2o2$3o$2bo23b2o$bo23b2o$27bo3b2o$4b2o24b2o$3bobo26bo$5bo$13b3o$13bo2bo4b2o$13bo6b2o$13bo8bo3b2o$14bobo8b2o$27bo!

Improvements are definitely possible, as this was somewhat rushed.
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