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## Thread for your unsure discoveries

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Kazyan wrote:A T-nose with a population and bounding box as small as the original: ...

Extrementhusiast wrote:Final step for synthesis: ...

This makes the starting constellation, for a total of 36. Unfortunately, the snake takes 7; none of the ways I know of making from 4 or 5 work.
x = 156, y = 36, rule = B3/S2313bo$11bobo17bo$bo10boo15bobo$bbo27boo$3o86bo$30bo59boobo41bo$30boo57boobbobo38bo$6bobo20bobo61boo39b3o$7boo$7bo$$86b3o88bo20bo19bo87bo20bobo10bobo4bobo109bobo10boo5bobo16boobo110boo10bo7boo16boboo$$73boo18boo18boo5bo12boo18boo$70boobbo15boobbo15boobbo3bobo9boobbo15boobbo$69bobobo15bobobo15bobobo5boo8bobobo15bobobo$54boo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo$54bobo13bo3boo14bo3boo14bo3boo5bo8bo3boo14bo3boo$54bo66boo$120bobo9$6bo$6boo31b3o$5bobo31bo$40bo! mniemiec Posts: 1021 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mniemiec wrote: Kazyan wrote:A T-nose with a population and bounding box as small as the original: ... Extrementhusiast wrote:Final step for synthesis: ... This makes the starting constellation, for a total of 36. Unfortunately, the snake takes 7; none of the ways I know of making from 4 or 5 work. RLE The six-glider method I used for the quasi still lifes also works here: x = 40, y = 27, rule = B3/S236bo$4bobo$5b2o2$13bo$11b2o$12b2o5$o18bobo$b2o16b2o$2o8bo9bo$11bo$9b3o$13bo$13bobo$13b2o$32b2obo$32bob2o2$14b2o21b2o$11b2o2bo18b2o2bo$10bobobo18bobobo$10bobobobo16bobobobo$11bo3b2o17bo3b2o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1753 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries This is a followup on my recent posting about creating sawtooths or other interesting reactions using the output of rakes firing at each other symmetrically. I investigated pairs of receeding c/3 rakes which fire spaceships at each other. I found no sawtooths this way, nor many interesting reactions. Here is one interesting reaction, though. It doesn't look very random at first glance. Except for its startup, its output appears to consist entirely of sparse streams of 20 gliders and dense streams of 21 gliders. But the pattern of these varies enough that my Golly starts to really slow down when running it past a million generations. #C Pseudo-random glider streams produced by two symmetrically placed#C period 27 c/3 backward LWSS rakes firing at each other.#C David I. Bell, 1 December 2017x = 219, y = 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I think the reason I found so few nice results is that you want a complicated reaction to create the rake's output so that an incoming spaceship has many chances to perturb it. Creating a LWSS the usual way for example, is so simple that there aren't many possibilities. There must be more complicated LWSS creating reactions with many perturbation possibilities. BCNU, -dbell dbell Posts: 49 Joined: June 27th, 2013, 12:47 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Oscillator? x = 16, y = 15, rule = B3/S2314b2o2$12b2o2$10b2o2$8b2o2$6b2o2$4b2o2$2b2o2$2o!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
One big dirty Oro. Yeeeeeeeeee...

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Long known.

#C 18P2.66 and extensionx=34, y=172o14b2o$obo13bo$17bobo$o2b2o3bo$bo6bo7b3ob2o$bo3b2o2bo$22b2o$7bobo$8b2o14b2o2$26b2o2$28b2ob3o2$30bobo$33bo$32b2o! Other ways of terminating the fuse are left as an exercise for the student. hkoenig Posts: 92 Joined: June 20th, 2009, 11:40 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries a cool transparent beehive x = 12, y = 8, rule = B3/S2310bo$9bobo$4b2o3bobo$5b2o3bo$4b2o$5o$4o$b2o!
--Szymon Bartosiewicz
favorite pattern:
x = 2, y = 2, rule = B25/S3a2o$2o! lifeisawesome Posts: 86 Joined: April 22nd, 2016, 1:55 pm Location: poland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries hkoenig wrote:Long known. #C 18P2.66 and extensionx=34, y=172o14b2o$obo13bo$17bobo$o2b2o3bo$bo6bo7b3ob2o$bo3b2o2bo$22b2o$7bobo$8b2o14b2o2$26b2o2$28b2ob3o2$30bobo$33bo$32b2o!

Other ways of terminating the fuse are left as an exercise for the student.

Reduced:
x = 8, y = 7, rule = B3/S232o$obo3bo$6bo$o2b2o2bo$bo$bo3bobo$6b2o!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6EoRBvdVPQ
One big dirty Oro. Yeeeeeeeeee...

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Yes. That's the smallest oscillator with that sort of fuse for a rotor segment. But I was talking more of other ways to terminate and stabilize the fuse--
x=30, y=2628b2o$29bo$26bobo2$24b2ob3o2$22b2o2$20b2o2$18b2o2$16b2o2$4bo9b2o$2bobo$6bobo3b2o$2o6bo$10b2o$bo$9bo$2b2o$8b2o$3bo$5bobo$5bo! Here are some other P2 fuses that can be terminated-- x=120, y=3714b2o5bo63bo$21bo64bo$14bo7b2o54bobo5bo$88bo$12b2o9b2o52bobo9bo$25bo63bo$12bo12bobo48bobo12bo$27bo64bo$10b2o16b2o45bobo14bo$94bo$10bo18b2o43bobo18bo$31bo63bo$8b2o21bobo39bobo21bo$33bo64bo$8bo25b2o36bobo23bo$100bo$6b2o27b2o34bobo27bo$37bo63bo$6bo30bobo30bobo30bo$39bo64bo$4b2o34b2o27bobo32bo$106bo$4bo36b2o25bobo36bo$43bo63bo$2b2o39bobo21bobo39bo$45bo64bo$2bo43b2o18bobo41bo$112bo$2o45b2o16bobo45bo$49bo63bo$o48bobo12bobo48bo$51bo64bo$52b2o9bobo50bo$118bo$53b2o7bobo54bo$55bo63bo$55bo5bobo! Years ago I posted a large sheet showing a bunch of these, including ways to interconnect them. hkoenig Posts: 92 Joined: June 20th, 2009, 11:40 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries gameoflifemaniac wrote:Reduced: ... All period 2 oscillators up to 21 bits have been found by computer search years ago, so anything up to that size is already known. Also, all but one up to 16 bits has an explicit glider synthesis, as do most of those known larger ones. All period 3s up to 21 have also been computer searched, and all period 4, 5, 6, 8, 15, and 30 ones up to 21 bits have been searched by hand, so while it's possible that some other higher-period oscillators less than 22 bits will be found, it's fairly unlikely. mniemiec Posts: 1021 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries mniemiec wrote: gameoflifemaniac wrote:Reduced: ... All period 2 oscillators up to 21 bits have been found by computer search years ago, so anything up to that size is already known. Also, all but one up to 16 bits has an explicit glider synthesis, as do most of those known larger ones. All period 3s up to 21 have also been computer searched, and all period 4, 5, 6, 8, 15, and 30 ones up to 21 bits have been searched by hand, so while it's possible that some other higher-period oscillators less than 22 bits will be found, it's fairly unlikely. Could you explain a little bit about how search programs work that search up to a certain number of bits? I can't imagine at all how the search would be organised. It seems much harder than searching in a given bounding box. Macbi Posts: 659 Joined: March 29th, 2009, 4:58 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Macbi wrote:Could you explain a little bit about how search programs work that search up to a certain number of bits? I can't imagine at all how the search would be organised. It seems much harder than searching in a given bounding box. Back in the 1990s, I wrote a search program to look for still-lifes. The idea was based on a similar program written by Peter Raynham in the 1970s. My program started with an arbitrarily large area (effectively unbounded, because I was searching by population, and the area boundaries were chosen so that the population constraints would be reached long before any boundary was). Each cell in the area can have one of three states - definitely dead, definitely alive, or presumably dead (but which may be changed to alive). One seed cell in the center starts out as definitely alive. Everything above it, or directly left, is definitely dead. Everything below it, or directly right, starts as presumably dead. Every cell has certain derived properties, such as how many living neighbors it has, whether it is stable or not (e.g. living cells are stable if they have 2-3 neighbors, dead cells are stable if they have any number other than 3), and the degree of freedom (i.e. the number of presumably dead cells). I would then do a tree search. At every level, I would find the most unstable presumably dead cell with the lowest degree of freedom, and then try two searches, assuming it is definitely dead, or definitely alive. In each case, forcing a cell's state would lower the degrees of freedom of neighboring cells, and if an unstable cell's degrees of freedom was lowered to 0, it could not be fixed, rendering this entire search branch non-viable. There were other similar optimizations (e.g. an unstable dead cell with n neighbors required exactly 3-n additional ones, so once its degree of freedom reached 3-n, all of its remaining neighbors had to be forced to be alive). This method grows patterns like crystals outward from the seed. Given that the processor time required is around O(2.45^n) and the number of objects found is also around O(2.45^n), the algorithm is pretty much optimal. I used this to search for still-lifes up to 24 bits. Unfortunately, due to certain defects in the algorithm (notably in choices as to when it was reasonable to expand to disconnected islands), there were certain classes of objects that were not found; these had to be added manually, which was an error-prone process. There were relatively few at 22-24 bits, but at 25 there would have been over a hundred. (As it was, a subsequent search for still-lifes this year revealed that I had forgotten to count a few 24s from my manual list due to bookkeeping errors.) I modified the same program to search for oscillators, by treating oscillators as still-lifes in a cylindrical 3D space. I used this to search for period 2 oscillators. Unfortunately, the time required expanded much faster than the result space, as searching for n-bit oscillators turned into a search for still-lifes of approximately 2n bits. I was only able to search for ones up to 21 bits. I tried using the same pattern to search for period 3 and 4 oscillators, but the compuational cost increased so prohibitively that I wasn't even able to search up to 12 bits, which is when the first results would have been found. A few years ago, Nikolay Beluchenko searched for period 3 oscillators up to 20 bits by using WLS, using a rectangular area that would be large enough to contain them all, and a second search of a diagonal strip to catch the few that would have been larger. That search found 10 that had not been known previusly. A similar search was done this year for the 21-bit ones, and found 4 that were not previously known. As all the 20-bit ones that required the diagonal strip search were all variants of "two eaters", it is unlikely that there would be any new 21-bit ones that would have been missed by not doing a similar 21-bit diagonal strip search. H. Koenig searched for period 4 oscillators up to 12 bits, but as far as I know, nobody has done any larger population-based searches for any periods higher than 3. mniemiec Posts: 1021 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Sokwe wrote: Flipping the "GD" at the front of the larger ship gives a "new" ship (compare with Paul Tooke's width-11 ship): ship with my initials guiding it forward :O IT'S MY INITIALS x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

No football of any dui mauris said that.

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

There is a p552-gun (46x12), of course too big. But it has nice details, i think. Also the p92-gun in the top left corner is not compactest one. Yet even interesting. The glider from this gun are doubled by a natural Heisenburb and collide with glider from a p46-gun. Another detail: At the bottom there is a oneway gate. lwss from the left are allowed to pass, hwss from the right not.

x = 158, y = 147, rule = B3/S2322b2o$15b3o4b2o$15b3o$14bo3bo38b2o$14b2ob2o38bo$14bo3bo36bobo$15bobo20b2o15b2o$15bobo18b5o$16bo11b2o5bo4bo$28b2o5bo2b3o$35b2o2bo26b2o$37b2o26b5o$65bo4bo5b2o$17b2ob2o15b2o26b3o2bo5b2o$16bo5bo12b2o2bo26bo2b2o$35bo2b3o26b2o$15bo7bo11bo4bo$15bo2bobo2bo12b5o26b2o$15b3o3b3o14b2o26bo2b2o$65b3o2bo$65bo4bo$7bo57b5o$7b3o40bo15b2o$10bo37b2o$9b2o38b2o3$22b2o$22b2o4$5b2o$5b2o$18bo18bobo$19bo17b2o$17b3o18bo4$108b2o$108bo$5b3o3b3o92bobo$5bo2bobo2bo92b2o$5bo7bo80b2o3bo$79b2o13b3obob2o$6bo5bo66b2o13b3o4bo$7b2ob2o85bo3bo$98b3o7bo3b2o$80b2o3b2o19b2obob3o13b2o$79b3o3b3o10b3o5bo4b3o13b2o$77b3o7b3o7bo3bo4bo3bo$77b3o7b3o4b3o4bo5b3o$77b3o7b3o4b3obob2o19b2o3b2o$18b2o35b2o5b2o15b3o3b3o6b2o3bo7b3o10b3o3b3o$19b2o33bobo5bobo15b2o3b2o19bo3bo7b3o7b3o$18bo34b3o7b3o40bo4b3o4b3o7b3o$53b2ob3ob3ob2o40b2obob3o4b3o7b3o$25bobo26b5ob5o43bo3b2o6b3o3b3o$2b2o22b2o28bo5bo58b2o3b2o$3bo22bo30b2ob2o$3o$o2$56bo5bo$55b2o5b2o30bo$11b2ob2o38bob2o3b2obo28bo$10bo5bo37bob2o3b2obo28b3o$55b3o3b3o$9bo7bo37b3o3b3o$9bo2bobo2bo$9b3o3b3o2$101b2o25b2o$101b2o26bo$129bobo$130b2o4b3o3bo$82bo51b5o2bobo$82bobo10bo5bo31b2o3b2o3bo$82b2o10b3o3b3o31b2o3bo2bo11bo$16b2o75b2o2bobo2b2o31bo3b3o12b3o$16b2o30bobo4b2o36b2ob2ob2ob2o53bo$26b2o2b2o4bo2b2o8b2o4b2o39b2ob2o34bo3b3o12b3o$26b2ob2o6b2obo8bo44bobo3bobo21b2o8b2o3bo2bo11bo$30bobo6bo53bo2bo3bo2bo19b5o5b2o3b2o3bo$31b2o4b3o56bo3bo22bo4bo5b5o2bobo$52bo40bobo5bobo19b3o2bo7b3o3bo$31b2o4b3o13b2o39bo7bo7bo13bo2b2o$30bobo6bo12b2o17bo36b3o14b2o$29b2o6b2obo7bo21bo36bo$30b2o4bo2b2o8bo20b3o22bo12b3o14b2o$49bo44bobo13bo13bo2b2o$123b3o2bo$92bo5bo24bo4bo$95bo27b5o$92b2o3b2o25b2o$67b2o$66b2o$68bo$92b2o3b2o$59bo35bo5b2o$59bobo30bo5bo2b2o42bo$59b2o73bo10bo2b2o$94bobo36bobo8bo5bo5b2o$95bo37bobo9bobo2b2o4b2o$145bo3b2o$125bo21b3o$124bobo$124b2o21b3o$41b3o80b2o19bo3b2o$41b3o81b2o18bobo2b2o4b2o$35b2o3b5o33b4o42b3o17bo5bo5b2o$35b2o2b2o3b2o23b2o6b6o17b2o21b2ob2o17bo2b2o$39b2o3b2o21b2ob2o4b2ob4o16b2ob4o16b2o2b2o17bo$67b4o6b2o21b6o17b2ob2o$68b2o7bo23b4o$75b2o$39b2o3b2o29b3o$39b2o3b2o23b2o3b5o$40b5o24b2o2b2o3b2o43b2o$41b3o29b2o3b2o43b2o7b2o4bo2b2o12b2o$41b3o87b2o6b2obo12b2o$132bobo6bo$133b2o4b3o$73b2o3b2o$73b2o3b2o53b2o4b3o$34b3o5b3o29b5o42bo10bo8bo$34b3o5b3o30b3o42b2o11bo5b2obo12b2o$35b2o5b2o31b3o28b2o11b3obo5b2o2b2o3bo2b2o12b2o$37bo3bo64b2o10b2o8b2obo3bo$35bo2bobo2bo75b2o8bob2o$34bo3bobo3bo75bo8bo2bo$35bo2bobo2bo85bobo$35b3o3b3o24b3o5b3o41bo8bobo$68b3o5b3o40b2o7bo$69b2o5b2o28b2o10b2o9b2o$71bo3bo30b2o11b3obo$69bo2bobo2bo42b2o10b2o$35b2o31bo3bobo3bo42bo10bobo$35b2o32bo2bobo2bo56bo$69b3o3b3o56b2o5$69b2o$69b2o!

With a little workaround around this gun you get an interupted gun. 30 lwss, then pause.

x = 956, y = 656, rule = 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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

This expanding spaceship (p144-rake) is shurely not new. At the 2(3) frontends the speed is c/2. At the rake-end the speed is c/6.

x = 116, y = 62, rule = B3/S2377bo$11b2o57b3o3b3o$9bo4bo10b4o40bo2bo2b2obo7bo4b3o$8bo15b6o42bo2b3o7b3o2bo2bo$8bo5bo8b2ob4o42bo2b3o7bob2o4bo$8b6o10b2o43bobo4b2o8b4o3bo$b2o74bo8b2o5bo$2ob2o69bo15bo2bo$b4o63bo5bo3b2o11b2o$2b2o19bo43b3o23bo$3bo5b3o11b2o41b2obo4b2obobo2b3o$bo3bo3b2obo9bobo41b3o5b2ob2o2bo2bo4b2o3bo3bo$o5bo5bo18bobo32b3o7bo7bo4b2obo4b3o$o5bo3b3o11bo6b2o33b3o11bo3bo4bo2b2o3bob2o$6obo3bo20bo34b2o11bo3bo5b3o5b3o$9bo74bo13b3o$21b2o12bobo43bobo14b3o$20b2ob4o8b2o61b2o$10b2o9b6o9bo$9b2ob4o6b4o$10b6o23bobo$11b4o24b2o$40bo33bo$27b4o43bobo$26b6o11bobo28b2o14bo$25b2ob4o11b2o43b2o$26b2o16bo44b2o2$47bobo$47b2o$16b6o26bo41b2o22b2o$16bo5b4o64b2o22b2o$16bo5bob2o9bobo13bobo49bobo$17bo3bo2b2o10b2o13b2o19bo29bo2bo$19bo16bo15bo18bobo27b2obo$18b2o52b2o33b2o$17b4o26bobo12bo2bo43bo$16b2ob2o27b2o16bo8b2ob3o19bob4obobo$17b2o29bo13bo3bo8bo2b2o2bo18bo3bob2o$24b6o22b2o9b4o7b2o6bo23b3o$24bo5bo20bobo28bo22b2o$24bo28bo23bo3bo22b2o$10b2o13bo4bo46bo2bo23b2o$9b2ob4o11b2o11b2o$10b6o23bobo$2b4o5b4o26bo$2bo3bo$2bo25b2o$3bo9bobo11bobo$5b2o22bo80bo$15b2o92bo$2b2o3b2o6b2o92b3o$b2ob3obo7bo$2b6o7b2o$3b4o3$11b6o$11bo5bo$11bo$12bo4bo$14b2o!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

WELL OK THEN IF YOU SAY SO MR 2c/26:
x = 168, y = 6, rule = B3/S23:T168,64o13bo7b3o5bo8b3o7bo5b3o8bo17b4o24b2o24b2o3bo20bo$4bo10bobobo4bo3bo2b3o7bobobo5bobo4b3o7b3o7bo5b5obo3b3o7b2o4bo2b2obo3bobo8bo3bobo2bobo4bo9b2ob2o3bo$5bo7b3o3b3o2bo3bob3o7b3ob3o3bo3bo2bo9b2ob2o4b2ob2o2bo10bobo6b3o3bobob2o4bo2bo6b2o5bo3bo6bo8b3ob3o2bo$4bo10bobobo4bo3bo2b3o7bobobo5bobo4b3o7b3o7bo5b5obo3b3o7b2o4bo2b2obo3bobo8bo3bobo2bobo4bo9b2ob2o3bo$4o13bo7b3o5bo8b3o7bo5b3o8bo17b4o24b2o24b2o3bo20bo!
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EDIT:exceptforthefactthatit'sprobablynotstabilizablesoimkindofsadbutidon'tknowifitcanbestabilizedsothismaybeaye
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo! No football of any dui mauris said that. 83bismuth38 Posts: 453 Joined: March 2nd, 2017, 4:23 pm Location: Still sitting around in Sagittarius A... ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries (new post because i do not want to disturb the molds) anybody else seeing the 'ye' go off the side of the post? x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S233b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

No football of any dui mauris said that.

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Can the central object be synthesized cheaply, and would this be useful if it could?
x = 27, y = 8, rule = B3/S2320bo$9bo10bobo$8b3o9b2o$10bo13b2o$3o21bobo$2bo6bo14bo$bo7b2o$10bo! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1804 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries A for awesome wrote:Can the central object be synthesized cheaply, and would this be useful if it could? ... Since the middle part doesn't come up from 2 gliders, it would require at least 3, making this take at least 6. This can already be made from 6 gliders (blinker+4). It can also be grown from two houses, which means the same converter can also add 2 blocks to spark coil or other similar object. This might be done more cheaply if the result of the left part (two blocks on a house) could form from 3 gliders. Alone, that makes a constellation of an up boat on boat plus two blocks. It might be useful to do a search for random 3-glider collisions that make that constellation, as it's likely it would form this way. x = 156, y = 58, rule = B3/S23135bo$134bo$134b3o$$130bo131bo129b3o388bo62booboo89boo60bo3bo88boo62b3o$$86bo26bo19bo18b3o$86boo25bo19bo17bo3bo$85bobo25bo19bo17booboo$$151booboo151booboo$$131boo$130bobo$132bo$$133boo133bobo133bo63bo3bobo3boo$$bbo$obo78bobo$boo79boo$21booboo15booboo15booboo16bo8booboo15booboo15booboo15booboo$21bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo25bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$22b3o17b3o17b3o27b3o17b3o17b3o17b3o$54bo$22b3o17b3o9bobo5b3o16boo9b3o9bo7b3o17b3o17b3o$21bo3bo15bo3bo8boo5bo3bo14bobo8bo3bo8bobo4bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo$21booboo15booboo5boo8booboo4boo10bo8booboo4boobboo5booboo15booboo15booboo$boo48bobo16boo12b3o13boo$obo48bo32bo26booboo15booboo15booboo$bbo82bo25booboo15booboo15booboo$$3boo99boo3bobo80b3o9b3o3bobo14bo19bo3bo84bo9bo5bo16bo19bo87bo11bo21bo19bo$$142boo$142bobo$142bo! mniemiec Posts: 1021 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries wow x = 12, y = 17, rule = B3/S23$3bo2b2o$6b2o$6b2o$4bobo$3b2o$5bo$8b3o$6b2obo$6b3o$7bo3$b2o$2b2o$bo!
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x = 2, y = 2, rule = B25/S3a2o$2o! lifeisawesome Posts: 86 Joined: April 22nd, 2016, 1:55 pm Location: poland ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries Is this catalyst known?? x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S232o$bo$bobo$2b2o$24bo$22b3o$21bo$22bo$21b2o$20bo2b2o$2bo17b2o2bo$2bobo17b2o$2b3o15b2o$4bo16bo$21bobo$22b2o!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Rhombic wrote:Is this catalyst known??
x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S232o$bo$bobo$2b2o$24bo$22b3o$21bo$22bo$21b2o$20bo2b2o$2bo17b2o2bo$2bobo17b2o$2b3o15b2o$4bo16bo$21bobo$22b2o! There are so many possible catalysts when starting from an H for example, that I don't think anyone can really keep track of which ones are known... The interesting question is more if you can do something nice with it. That particular catalyst is actually known though, it is used in this H-to-G, and this H-to-2G (first code box) simeks Posts: 369 Joined: March 11th, 2015, 12:03 pm Location: Sweden ### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries simeks wrote: Rhombic wrote:Is this catalyst known?? x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S232o$bo$bobo$2b2o$24bo$22b3o$21bo$22bo$21b2o$20bo2b2o$2bo17b2o2bo$2bobo17b2o$2b3o15b2o$4bo16bo$21bobo$22b2o!

There are so many possible catalysts when starting from an H for example, that I don't think anyone can really keep track of which ones are known... The interesting question is more if you can do something nice with it.

That particular catalyst is actually known though, it is used in this H-to-G, and this H-to-2G (first code box)

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x = 25, y = 16, rule = B3/S232o$bo12b2o$bobo10b2o$2b2o$24bo$22b3o$21bo$22bo$21b2o$20bo2b2o$2bo17b2o2bo$2bobo17b2o$2b3o15b2o$4bo16bo$21bobo$22b2o! Another cheap option with a different output: x = 22, y = 22, rule = B3/S232o$bo$bobo$2b2o5$20b2o$20b2o$2bo$2bobo$2b3o$4bo5$16b2o$16bo$17b3o$19bo!
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Is this Herschel *counter*(period doubler?) with 1st glider output known? It has to be known, but I don't know the nomenclature so I couldn't find it in advance.
x = 53, y = 23, rule = B3/S2314b2o29b2o$2o12b2o15b2o12b2o$bo30bo$bobo28bobo$2b2o29b2o3$25b2o$25b2o$20b2o29b2o$20b2o29b2o$2bo30bo5b2o$2bobo28bobo3b2o$2b3o28b3o$4bo30bo5$16b2o29b2o$16bo30bo$17b3o28b3o$19bo30bo!

(1: H-->G, 2: Herschel is destroyed, 1, 2...)
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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Rhombic wrote:Is this Herschel *counter*(period doubler?) with 1st glider output known? It has to be known, but I don't know the nomenclature so I couldn't find it in advance.
x = 53, y = 23, rule = B3/S2314b2o29b2o$2o12b2o15b2o12b2o$bo30bo$bobo28bobo$2b2o29b2o3$25b2o$25b2o$20b2o29b2o$20b2o29b2o$2bo30bo5b2o$2bobo28bobo3b2o$2b3o28b3o$4bo30bo5$16b2o29b2o$16bo30bo$17b3o28b3o$19bo30bo!

I don't think that specific variant is known, actually. There are a lot of ways to stop a Herschel and leave some junk behind that absorbs a following Herschel. There are ones in the H->G column (1,1) and (-2,-2) diagonally from your block location, for example, but not in that exact location.

x = 97, y = 519, rule = LifeHistory42.D4.D13.4D$42.D4.D12.D4.D$42.D4.D12.D$42.D4.D6.D5.D$42.D4.D7.D4.D$42.6D3.6D3.D2.3D$42.D4.D7.D4.D4.D$42.D4.D6.D5.D4.D$42.D4.D12.D4.D$42.D4.D13.4D5$88.D$87.D$87.3D20$58.2A$57.B2AB$48.2A8.3B$49.A7.B.B$49.A.AB3.6B$50.2AB.8B6.2A$44.2A6.10B6.A$45.A6.11B2.BA.A$45.A.AB2.13B.B2A$46.2AB.16B$48.18B$48.17B$49.16B$48.8B2D7B$46.10B2D7B$43.21B$41.5BC15B$41.5BCBC12B$41.5B3C12B$41.7BC4B3.6B$41.11B5.5B$41.4B2.4B6.5B$40.4B2.4B7.B2A2B$39.4B2.4B9.2A$31.2A8.B2.4B$30.B2AB9.4B$31.2B$30.2B$29.BA2B.B$29.A.A3B$30.A.3B$27.3A4.B$27.A2$35.E$35.2E9$43.2E$43.E9$53.4B$54.4B$55.4B$56.4B$57.6B$57.8B$57.8B$56.9B$56.9B$56.10B$56.11B$54.5B2.6B$44.2A8.5B2.4B$45.A9.9B$45.A.AB5.10B$46.2AB.3B.10B$48.17B$48.17B$49.15B$48.15B$46.17B$39.2B2.20B$38.8BC9B2D5B$38.8BCBC4B.BD2BD5B$38.8B3C4B.2B2D5B$38.10BC4B2.7B$38.14B3.7B$38.2B.4B10.7B$40.4B12.4B$39.4B14.5B$38.4B5.4B9.2A$29.2A6.4B19.A$28.B2AB4.4B21.3A$29.3B3.4B24.A$28.B.B3.4B5.B$27.10B5.2B$25.11B5.3B$24.11B5.4B$22.12B5.4B$21.12B5.4B$3.A16.14B3.4B$2.A.A13.17B.4B$2.A.A12.22B$.2A.2A10.6B2A14B$4.B9.8B2A16B$.2AB2AB6.27B$2.A.2A32B.B2A$A3.31B4.BA.A$2A4.29B7.A$4.29B9.2A$4.28B$4.4B2A22B$2.2AB.2B2A21B$.A.AB.5B.15B.B.B2A$.A5.3B2.16B2.BA.A$2A6.3B.12B.2B6.A$7.B2AB.11B10.2A$8.2A3.9B$14.3B.B$13.2B$12.2BAB$13.A.A$14.A16$54.A$54.3A$57.A$56.2A4.2B$44.2A10.8B$45.A12.7B$45.A.AB7.9B$46.2AB.3B3.10B$48.19B$48.18B$49.15B$48.15B$46.17B$43.20B$42.4BC15B$42.4BCBC4B.3B2D4B$42.4B3C4B2.2B2D3B$42.6BC4B2.7B$42.10B4.6B$42.3B10.7B$42.2B12.6B$42.B13.7B$39.2A16.5B$40.A16.6B$37.3A15.9B$37.A17.2A.7B$56.A5.3B$53.3A7.2B$53.A17$47.2A7.2A$47.A7.A2.A$48.3A.2A2.2A$50.A.A.2A$51.2B2.A$50.4B.A.A$49.5B2.2A$46.8B$44.7B2DB$44.2BC4B2D$43.3BCBC4B$44.2B3C4B$43.5BC4B$42.10B$41.4B$40.4B2$39.E$39.2E23$30.4B12.A$31.4B11.3A$32.4B13.A$33.4B11.2A$34.4B10.5B6.2A$35.4B11.4B5.A$36.4B9.6B.BA.A$37.4B7.7B.B2A$38.4B4.11B$39.4B3.11B$40.17B$36.2A3.15B$37.A4.13B$37.A.AB2.12B2.2A$38.2AB.15BA.A$40.16B3.A$40.16B3.2A$41.15B$40.15B$38.19B$36.21B$36.2BC15B.2B$35.3BCBC4B.3BD3B$36.2B3C4B2.2BD3B$35.5BC4B3.BD4B$34.10B5.B.3B$33.4B11.3BA3B$33.3B12.A.A.A2.A$31.4B11.3A.A.4A$31.2A12.A5.A$32.A12.2A6.A$29.3A20.2A$29.A28$44.A14.B$44.3A11.4B$47.A9.4B$46.2A8.4B$34.2A10.6B3.4B$35.A12.5B.4B$35.A.AB7.11B$36.2A5B3.13B$38.20B2A$38.20B2A$39.20B$38.21B$36.20B$34.21B$34.2BC15B.4B$33.3BCBC4B.3BD3B4.2A$34.2B3C4B2.2BD3B4.A$33.5BC4B3.BD4B4.3A$32.10B5.5B6.A$31.4B11.3BA3B$31.3B12.A.A.A2.A$29.4B11.3A.A.4A$29.2A12.A5.A$30.A12.2A6.A$27.3A20.2A$27.A32$87.4B$86.4B$56.2A17.2C8.4B$57.A16.B2C2B5.4B$44.A11.A18.4B2.6B$44.3A9.2A16.12B$47.A9.B15.12B$34.2A10.2A9.3B12.13B$35.A10.5B5.6B9.15B$35.A.AB9.4B3.10B6.9B2D4B$36.2AB.3B4.6B.12B3.11B2D4B$38.7B.9BD3B2A15BE9B2C$38.17B2D2B2A15BEBE5B.C2BC2.2C$39.17B2D18B3E4B2.CBCB3.C2.C$38.18BD21BE4B3.C4B.C.C.C$36.19BD26B6.B2C.C2.C$34.18B.B3.13B.8B9.BCB.C$34.2BC13B7.7B.B4.8B8.C4.C$33.3BCBC4B.6B19.4B13.5C$34.2B3C4B2.B.5B16.4B$33.5BC4B7.2A15.4B17.C$32.10B8.A15.4B17.C.C$31.4B16.3A11.4B19.C$31.3B19.A$29.4B$29.2A$30.A$27.3A$27.A22$37.C$36.2BC$36.3CB23.A$37.4B14.2C6.3A$38.4B6.2A6.C9.A10.2A$39.4B5.A7.C.CB5.2A3.B5.B2AB.2A$40.4B6.A6.2CB5.8B4.3B.2A$41.4B4.2A8.3B5.8B.6B$42.4B2.2B9.4B4.13B$35.2A6.8B9.4B2.14B.2B$36.A7.7B10.21B2A$36.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.19B.B2A$37.A2.A4.19BD15B2.B$38.2AB3.20BDBD4B.3B2D2B$39.14B2A9B3D4B2.2B2D2B$40.13B2A11BD4B2.6B$41.30B2.6B$41.17B.4B5.4B.7B$42.15B3.2B7.4B.6B$42.15B3.3B7.9B$43.13B5.A2B.2A4.8B$45.13B2.A.A2B.A5.8B$44.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A7.7B7.A$44.6B6.2ABA4.A9.6B5.3A$44.5B8.B2.5A.A7.7B3.A$44.B.B8.A.3A5.2A7.7B3.2A$45.3B7.2A3.4A10.2B3D7B$44.B2AB10.2A2.A.3A7.2BD7B$45.2A12.A6.A7.B3D7B$58.A15.10B$58.2A14.11B$73.12B$72.13B$71.4B2.4B$70.4B3.2B2AB$69.4B5.BA2BA$68.4B6.2B2A.A$67.4B8.3B.A$66.4B8.A4.A.2A$65.4B7.3A3.2A.2A$64.4B7.A$63.4B8.2A$62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.4B18$43.C$42.2BC13.4B$42.3CB13.4B6.A$43.4B13.4B5.3A$44.4B6.2A5.4B7.A10.2A$45.4B5.A7.4B5.2A3.B5.B2AB.2A$46.4B6.A6.4B4.8B4.3B.2A$47.4B4.2A7.4B5.8B.6B$48.4B2.2B9.4B4.13B$41.2A6.8B9.4B2.14B.2B$42.A7.7B10.21B2A$42.A.2A5.7B2.B2.2B2.19B.B2A$43.A2.A4.19BD15B2.B$44.2AB3.20BDBD4B.3B2D2B$45.14B2A9B3D4B2.2B2D2B$46.13B2A11BD4B2.6B$47.30B2.6B$47.17B.4B5.4B.7B$48.15B3.2B7.4B.6B$48.15B3.3B7.9B$49.13B5.A2B.2A4.8B$51.13B2.A.A2B.A5.8B$50.8B4.2A.A.AB2.A7.7B$50.6B6.2ABA4.A9.6B$50.5B8.B2.5A.A7.7B$50.B.B8.A.3A5.2A7.7B$51.3B7.2A3.4A10.2B3D3B$50.B2AB10.2A2.A.3A7.2BD7B3.B$51.2A12.A6.A7.B3D7B.B2A$64.A15.13B2A$64.2A14.14B$79.15B$78.14B$85.B2A2B$86.2A!

I added the new 2H-to-G to the collection, since it's nice and Spartan. Probably won't bother to add the hundreds of other equivalent circuits that are out there, though, so please don't go on a collecting binge on my account...

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### Re: Thread for your unsure discoveries

Could this be used to more efficiently synthesize 16.30?
x = 25, y = 29, rule = B3/S238$15b3o$13b2o$13b2ob2o3$16bo$16b2o$18bo$16b2o$16bo6$7b2o3b3o$7bobo3bobo$8bo$14bo!

There is a honeyfarm predecessor, a pi, a weird corruption I don't know how to synthesize, and a boat.
Things to work on:
- Find a (7,1)c/8 ship in a Non-totalistic rule (someone please search the rules)
- Find a C/10 in JustFriends
- Find a C/10 in Day and Night
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