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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Haycat2009 » February 25th, 2024, 7:50 pm

Sokwe wrote:
February 25th, 2024, 1:13 pm
Does the following wick have an established name?

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x = 25, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!
I always thought of it as a "coiled snake".

It would be nice to have a name for it when describing Keith Amling's c/3 greystretchers and new 3c/6 wickstretchers.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Sokwe » February 26th, 2024, 8:48 am

Sokwe wrote:
February 25th, 2024, 1:13 pm
Does the following wick have an established name?

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x = 25, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!
I always thought of it as a "coiled snake".
Now I'm wondering if the 6-cell snake is meant to be viewed as coiled. I personally never thought of it as such. I doubt we have the original motivation for the name available in this case.

If the 6-cell snake is coiled, then one could call the wick a "coiled python" to indicate its length, although that might be more confusing since it doesn't include python as a subpattern.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by confocaloid » February 26th, 2024, 8:51 am

Maybe coiled python would be a different (oblique) wick? Then there would be at least two dimensions of extensibility.

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x = 17, y = 6, rule = B3/S23
2o$obob2o$3b2obob2o$7b2obob2o$11b2obobo$15b2o!
I agree that it feels strange to view the six-bit snake as coiled.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Haycat2009 » February 26th, 2024, 7:58 pm

I suggest calling it constrictor: After all, it is a type of snake, they are long and heavy, a reference to the high density and can be curled.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Sokwe » March 1st, 2024, 6:46 am

A few years ago, Paul Champman coined the term "bihivite" for the classic, quintessential crystal used in the crystallization and decay oscillator. The term has otherwise been used only by dvgrn and confocaloid, so there is not widespread adoption. The crystal has been found independently numerous times, and I don't think there's any record of who first discovered it. Despite being such a well-known pattern, I don't know of any other name for it, not even a systematic name.

Should we use the name "bihivite" or "bihivite crystal" for this pattern? Any objections?
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by dvgrn » March 1st, 2024, 7:56 am

Sokwe wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 6:46 am
Should we use the name "bihivite" or "bihivite crystal" for this pattern? Any objections?
Interesting question! With only three uses on the forums and two on Discord, it doesn't seem like we're really anywhere near widespread adoption of the term yet. On the other hand, the two uses on Discord --
11/19/2023: are there crystals other than bihivite
2/20/2024: i've ran it for 15 trillion generations and i caught a glimpse of the bihivite crystal
-- didn't bring up any "What on earth is bihivite?" questions, so maybe it's one of those terms that's obvious from context.

I personally wouldn't mind being bold and redirecting "bihivite" to "crystal", and mentioning the term when describing the "most common example" in that article. However, it seems I've used the term more than anyone else -- two whole uses out of the three on the forums! -- so my opinion about this shouldn't count for much of anything.

It does seem like the article needs another example at this point, for comparison purposes, The stable single-beehive crystal that confocaloid found seems like it rates a mention (seeing as it's part of a POTY 2023 nomination) -- and/or maybe one of the period-specific crystals like the p44 LWSS one -- to show that there are indeed crystals other than bihivite, and the stream that crystallizes doesn't have to be gliders:

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#C four-blinker p44 LWSS crystal
#O Bill Gosper, 19 February 1997
x = 63, y = 134, rule = B3/S23
17b2o6b2o$17b2o6b2o7$b2o38b2o$obo38bobo$obob2o32b2obobo$bobobo4bo22bo4bobobo$
3bo5b2o22b2o5bo$2bo2bo2bobo7bo6bo7bobo2bo2bo$2bo3b4o7b2o6b2o7b4o3bo$
2bo5bo3b3ob3o6b3ob3o3bo5bo$2bo5bo8b2o6b2o8bo5bo$2bo15bo6bo15bo$2bo2bo32bo2bo$
3bo36bo$bobobo32bobobo$obob2o32b2obobo$obo38bobo$b2o11b2o25b2o$13bo$12bo5bo$
12bo5b3o$13b2o3bo8b2o$27bo$16b2o10b3o$16bo2bo10bo$16bo2bo4b2o$18b2o4b2o2$
8b2o30b2o10b2o$7bobo29bo2bo2b4o2bo2bo$7bo31b3o2b6o2b3o$6b2o15b2o17b10o$
23bobo15bo10bo$25bo15b2o8b2o$25b2o2bo$29b3o$32bo$31b2o$46b3o$46b3o$45bobobo3$
23b2o20b2ob2o$22b2o21b2ob2o$24bo10b3o7b2ob2o7b6o$28b2o5bo2bo8bo8bo2b4o$
27bo2bo4bob2o17b2obo$29bo6b2o19b2o$28bo9b3o13b3o$24b2o12b3o13b3o$25bo31b2o$
22b3o5b2o6bo17b2obo$22bo7b2o15bo8bo2b4o$45b2ob2o7b6o$34b2o9b2ob2o$
33bobo9b2ob2o$33bo$32b2o$45bobobo$46b3o$46b3o5$41b2o8b2o$41bo10bo$42b10o$
39b3o2b6o2b3o$39bo2bo2b4o2bo2bo$40b2o10b2o55$15bo$15b2o!
@confocaloid, if your stable crystal gets shown as an example in Crystal, it seems like you have naming rights if you want to exercise them. Do you want to give that crystal a label, like maybe "unihivite" as a contrast with "bihivite"? (I wrote "monohivite" first, but that would turn the two terms into a mix of Latin and Greek prefixes, which would probably trigger a swarm of angry etymologists.)

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by confocaloid » March 1st, 2024, 8:57 am

I like the term 'bihivite' for the crystal with two beehives per layer. It can be formed by an even-period glider stream with a sufficiently high period (starting e.g. with a block pull).

I'm not sure the single-hive crystal needs a name, though. I think of the single-hive crystal as a modification of the two-hive crystal. The natural growth is modified by adding an extensible chain of eater 2 catalysts.
The two are closely related to each other (several conversions are common: block pull; block -> honeyfarm predecessor; beehive -> block + pond; pond -> ship; removal of a ship), but different enough (it takes 22 gliders to grow the bihivite by 19 cells with some p2 intermediates; it takes 5 gliders to grow the single-hive crystal by 5 cells with p1 intermediates only).

Here is a comparison between the two growing crystals (the bihivite is on the left; the single-hive version without p2 intermediates is on the right):

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x = 178, y = 101, rule = B3/S23
110bo$109bobo$109bobo$108b2ob3o$114bo$108b2ob3obo$108b2obo2bobo$114bob
o$113b2ob3o$119bo$113b2ob3obo$113b2obo2bobo$2o98b2o17bobo$2o98b2o16b2o
b3o$124bo$118b2ob3obo$118b2obo2bobo$124bobo$123b2ob3o$129bo$123b2ob3ob
o$123b2obo2bobo$129bobo$128b2ob3o$134bo$128b2ob3obo$128b2obo2bobo$134b
obo$133b2ob3o$139bo$133b2ob3obo$133b2obo2bobo$139bobo$138b2ob3o$144bo$
138b2ob3obo$138b2obo2bobo$144bobo$143b2ob3o$149bo$143b2ob3obo$143b2obo
2bobo$149bobo$148b2ob3o$154bo$148b2ob3obo$148b2obo2bobo$154bobo$153b2o
b3o$159bo$153b2ob3obo$153b2obo2bobo$159bobo$158b2ob3o$164bo$158b2ob3ob
o$158b2obo2bobo$164bobo$163b2ob3o$169bo$163b2ob3o$163b2obo7$62b2o98b2o
$62bobo97bobo$62bo99bo$71bo99bo$71bobo97bobo$65b2o3bobo92b2o3bobo$63bo
8bo90bo8bo$67b2o98b2o$62b3ob3o93b3ob3o$62bo99bo$59bo99bo$47b2o10b2o3bo
82b2o10b2o3bo$46bo2bo8bo2bo2b2o80bo2bo8bo2bo2b2o$47bobo9b2o5bo9b2o69bo
bo9b2o5bo9b2o$45b2obo4b2o3bo4b2obo9bo68b2obo4b2o3bo4b2obo9bo$45b3o5b2o
2b2obobobobo7bobo68b3o5b2o2b2obobobobo7bobo$45b2o12b2o5b2o6b2o69b2o12b
2o5b2o6b2o$62bo2b3o94bo2b3o$61b2o2b2o94b2o2b2o$61b2ob2o95b2ob2o$61b2o
2bo95b2o2bo$59b2o2b2o94b2o2b2o$59b6o94b6o$62b2o98b2o$63b3o97b3o$50bo
99bo$48b2o15b2o81b2o15b2o$50b2o98b2o$49bo99bo$60b2o98b2o$61bo99bo$58b
3o97b3o$58bo99bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Haycat2009 » March 1st, 2024, 10:15 am

Sokwe wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 6:46 am
A few years ago, Paul Champman coined the term "bihivite" for the classic, quintessential crystal used in the crystallization and decay oscillator. The term has otherwise been used only by dvgrn and confocaloid, so there is not widespread adoption. The crystal has been found independently numerous times, and I don't think there's any record of who first discovered it. Despite being such a well-known pattern, I don't know of any other name for it, not even a systematic name.

Should we use the name "bihivite" or "bihivite crystal" for this pattern? Any objections?
I object- it is meaningless and not in usage. In contrast, caravan is in usage by more users. If you oppose caravan, you also have to oppose bihivite as per principle.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by dvgrn » March 1st, 2024, 1:23 pm

Haycat2009 wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 10:15 am
If you oppose caravan, you also have to oppose bihivite as per principle.
Sorry, no, that doesn't follow.

The "caravan" proposal was implemented way too soon after the name was proposed. The implementation happened at a time when only one person had actually used it in a conversation here on the forums. One person isn't really enough for a conversation, let alone for establishing that a term is in common use (as opposed to being just a proposal).

Nobody should be expecting new terms to show up on the LifeWiki any faster than a year or two after they're proposed, no matter how many boosters a proposal might have -- except for notable new discoveries named by the discoverer, of course.

Allowing "caravan" to immediately find its way onto the LifeWiki would have set a terrible precedent. Since then, there still don't seem to have been any actual uses of the term -- which suggests that it's the kind of term that somebody suggests and gets very enthusiastic about, but that isn't actually useful to the community.

Conversely, "bihivite" was proposed more than two years ago, and has gotten used by four different people since then -- people who were legitimately talking about that specific type of crystal, and seemed to want to have a specific name for it. It seemed like their intended audience understood what they were saying.

Two years is a much more reasonable time frame than 24 hours; that alone makes the two cases significantly different.

Next Step
Now it's been established that there's some controversy about the term -- so there was nothing particularly wrong with rolling back the change in the "block pull" article. Haycat2009's action was fine, except that there was some unnecessary and inaccurate editorializing in the edit summary. Let's leave the article in its pre-bihivite state for now, since the pre-edit state is the default for controversial topics -- until we hear from more people.

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Sokwe » March 1st, 2024, 8:30 pm

Haycat2009 wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 10:15 am
I object- it is meaningless and not in usage. In contrast, caravan is in usage by more users. If you oppose caravan, you also have to oppose bihivite as per principle.
In addition to what dvgrn mentioned, I think there are two important differences. First, "caravan" replaced an existing name, albeit a systematic one. The crystal in question had (or has) no name, so it was awkward to discuss it without naming it. Second, unlike 30P5H1V0, the crystal has no known discoverer, so there's no "naming authority" for the pattern that we could attempt to get in contact with.
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The "caravan" proposal was implemented way too soon after the name was proposed. The implementation happened at a time when only one person had actually used it in a conversation here on the forums. One person isn't really enough for a conversation, let alone for establishing that a term is in common use (as opposed to being just a proposal).
To be fair, coiled snake got added even faster and with no prior use at all. In that case of course, there wasn't really an existing name for the wick, and I felt I needed a name to describe the new wickstretchers. I also have no objections at this time to any other names for that wick.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Haycat2009 » March 1st, 2024, 11:27 pm

Will constrictor be an ok name? It is a type of snake and can be very long.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Sokwe » March 2nd, 2024, 3:01 am

Haycat2009 wrote:
March 1st, 2024, 11:27 pm
Will constrictor be an ok name? It is a type of snake and can be very long.
They also kill their prey by constriction, which involves the snake coiling around the prey. I think it would be fine to include that as an alternate name, but I would also keep the name "coiled snake", which I think is a bit more intuitive. Any objections?
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by dvgrn » March 2nd, 2024, 8:01 am

I won't have any objection, as soon as people have been talking for a while about "constrictor-bounded greystretchers" or some such. When there's actual usage to document, then it will make some sense to me to add "constrictor" as an alternate name to the LifeWiki "coiled snake" article.

Until then, it doesn't seem particularly helpful to create two names for the same thing. "Constrictor" is a somewhat clever reference, but "coiled snake" has the significant advantage that it contains the word "snake", so it's easier to guess that it's made up of overlapping snakes.

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Sokwe » March 2nd, 2024, 9:29 pm

Sokwe wrote:
February 25th, 2024, 1:13 pm
Does the following wick have an established name?

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x = 25, y = 2, rule = B3/S23
2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o!
I always thought of it as a "coiled snake".
This wick was named previously, although I've never seen the name used elsewhere. In a reader reply by Paul Wilson published in Lifeline Volume 11 on page 3 it was called "Midgard Serpent" (Jörmungandr of Norse mythology).

There were no uses of "midgard" or any variant of "Jörmungandr" in the old LifeCA mailing list archives. The only occurrence of "serpent" was "sea serpent" in an email from Dean Hickerson on 16 January 1993, referring to the "hungry G" induction coil. The term "midgard serpent" is included in Robert Wainwright's Lifeline index, referencing Lifeline volume 11 page 3 as already mentioned.

What, if anything, should be done to the coiled snake page in light of this new information?

Edit: for now, I've add "Midgard Serpent" as an alternate name on the coiled snake page.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by hotcrystal0 » March 16th, 2024, 10:11 pm

confocaloid wrote:
January 7th, 2024, 12:41 am
it has a house at front
Besides the fact that 30P5H2V0 is the only name of the spaceship that is in common use, here is a reason why it's likely a bad idea to apply a seemingly "meaningful" name to a single spaceship:

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#C taken from https://github.com/Matthias-Merzenich/jslife-moving/blob/master/velocity-2c5/ships-2c5.rle
#rle
Both 30P5H2V0 and 34P5H2V0 "have a house at front", and there are more.
The proposed name is bad, because it is misleading. It suggests a specific kind of uniqueness that is not there.
I’m proposing the name “Caravan family” as a general term for the family of 2c/5 spaceships that have the house component (but are not just tagalongs attached to other ships in the family):

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x = 29, y = 60, rule = EV2QuadColor
5.2H$4.3H$2.H$.2H.H$2H$.2H.3H$2.H$4.H7$5.2B17.2B$4.3B16.3B$2.B18.B$.2B
.B15.2B.B$2B17.2B$.2B.3B13.2B.3B$2.B18.B$4.B18.B$8.A16.A2.A$5.A3.A15.
A2.A$4.2A.2A13.2A2.2A$5.A15.2A2.3A$6.2A.2A11.A.2A$23.3A$24.A2$24.A$23.
3A$22.A.2A$21.2A2.3A$22.2A2.2A$25.A2.A$25.A2.A$23.A$21.A$20.2A.3A$19.
2A$20.2A.A$21.A$23.3A$5.2B17.2A$4.3B$2.B$.2B.B$2B$.2B.3B$2.B$4.B$9.A$
5.2A.A$5.A$4.2A$3.3A2.2A$4.A3.2A$5.A2.A$5.2A!

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o!

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by confocaloid » March 17th, 2024, 1:50 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
March 16th, 2024, 10:11 pm
confocaloid wrote:
January 7th, 2024, 12:41 am
[...]
I’m proposing the name “Caravan family” as a general term for the family of 2c/5 spaceships that have the house component (but are not just tagalongs attached to other ships in the family):

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x = 29, y = 60, rule = EV2QuadColor
5.2H$4.3H$2.H$.2H.H$2H$.2H.3H$2.H$4.H7$5.2B17.2B$4.3B16.3B$2.B18.B$.2B
.B15.2B.B$2B17.2B$.2B.3B13.2B.3B$2.B18.B$4.B18.B$8.A16.A2.A$5.A3.A15.
A2.A$4.2A.2A13.2A2.2A$5.A15.2A2.3A$6.2A.2A11.A.2A$23.3A$24.A2$24.A$23.
3A$22.A.2A$21.2A2.3A$22.2A2.2A$25.A2.A$25.A2.A$23.A$21.A$20.2A.3A$19.
2A$20.2A.A$21.A$23.3A$5.2B17.2A$4.3B$2.B$.2B.B$2B$.2B.3B$2.B$4.B$9.A$
5.2A.A$5.A$4.2A$3.3A2.2A$4.A3.2A$5.A2.A$5.2A!
But how do you refer to a single member of that family? The phrase "a member of the Caravan family" does not feel like a convenient wording.
It seems more likely that people will end up calling multiple various loosely-similar spaceships "caravans", without bothering to invent specific names for each of them. Perhaps that would be somehow extended to cover moving objects that aren't spaceships (puffers, rakes). You would have many different "caravan" spaceships, many different "caravan" puffers, many different "caravan" rakes.
And then someone will suggest the same name for an entirely unrelated oscillator or gun that doesn't have any houses at all.

Long story short,
  • (a) I don't see how the proposed naming/terminology would be useful/helpful. The way I see it, writing 30P5H2V0 feels like a good way of referring to the specific spaceship. It's unambiguous; it's in common use for a long time in various actual CA-related discussions; it does the primary task it's supposed to do (referring to a specific object); it's forum-searchable.
  • (b) At this point, the proposed new terminology/naming did not enter actual uncontroversial common use by people other than the initial proponents. That means it shouldn't be added to LifeWiki. (See LW:NB#Name_notability_guideline)

    An exception could be if the actual discoverer of some pattern or reaction decided on a name for it.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by hotcrystal0 » March 17th, 2024, 8:37 am

confocaloid wrote:
March 17th, 2024, 1:50 am
hotcrystal0 wrote:
March 16th, 2024, 10:11 pm
confocaloid wrote:
January 7th, 2024, 12:41 am
[...]
I’m proposing the name “Caravan family” as a general term for the family of 2c/5 spaceships that have the house component (but are not just tagalongs attached to other ships in the family)
But how do you refer to a single member of that family? The phrase "a member of the Caravan family" does not feel like a convenient wording.
It seems more likely that people will end up calling multiple various loosely-similar spaceships "caravans", without bothering to invent specific names for each of them. Perhaps that would be somehow extended to cover moving objects that aren't spaceships (puffers, rakes). You would have many different "caravan" spaceships, many different "caravan" puffers, many different "caravan" rakes.
And then someone will suggest the same name for an entirely unrelated oscillator or gun that doesn't have any houses at all.


You just refer to the specific members of the family by their systematic name/12P15 ID.

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x = 192, y = 53, rule = B3/S23
33$42b4o$41b6o$40b2ob4o$41b2o3$41b2o$39bo6bo$38bo8bo$38bo8bo$38b9o3$42b
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by b-engine » March 17th, 2024, 9:01 am

hotcrystal0 wrote:
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I’m proposing the name “Caravan family” as a general term for the family of 2c/5 spaceships that have the house component (but are not just tagalongs attached to other ships in the family): ...
I propose these names for each 2c/5 in the family: (replaced systematic names with minpop as they are all p5 2c/5 orthogonal)
30 cells: Caravan
34 cells: Van
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by hotdogPi » March 17th, 2024, 9:21 am

I have a proposal for this rotor (stator variant doesn't matter) that has occurred naturally multiple times.

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x = 9, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
2.2A$.A2.A$2.2A.A$5.A$2.2A.A.2A$3.A.A.DA$3.A.ADC$2A.A.CD$2A.AD$3.A$3.
A.A$4.2A!
I-4.

Look at the rotor specifically. I-4 is a road that travels southwest-northeast within Central Florida, and the six rotor cells form a diagonal line. In addition, "I" refers to the I-heptomino, which is what those six rotor cells become as a group of six on cells, and "4" for the entire oscillator being period 4.
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Periods discovered: 5-16,⑱,⑳G,㉑G,㉒㉔㉕,㉗-㉛,㉜SG,㉞㉟㊱㊳㊵㊷㊹㊺㊽㊿,54G,55G,56,57G,60,62-66,68,70,73,74S,75,76S,80,84,88,90,96
100,02S,06,08,10,12,14G,16,17G,20,26G,28,38,47,48,54,56,72,74,80,92,96S
217,486,576

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G: gun

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by C_R_116 » March 21st, 2024, 8:50 pm

Recently, I found a new 2c/7 spaceship. (557P7H2V0):

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x = 59, y = 115, rule = B3/S23
2bo12bo27bo12bo$bobo10bobo25bobo10bobo$o3bo8bo3bo23bo3bo8bo3bo$bo2bo8b
o2bo25bo2bo8bo2bo$bobo4b2o4bobo25bobo4b2o4bobo$2b3o3b2o3b3o27b3o3b2o3b
3o$5bo6bo33bo6bo$4bo2b4o2bo4b3o17b3o4bo2b4o2bo$8b2o9bo19bo9b2o$5b3o2b
3o33b3o2b3o$18bobo17bobo$18bobo17bobo$19bo19bo$21b3o11b3o$21b2ob2o7b2o
b2o$20bob4o7b4obo$20b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o$21bo15bo$20bobobo9bobobo$20b2ob2o
9b2ob2o$21b4o9b4o$21bo15bo$22b2o11b2o$23bo11bo$22bobo9bobo$22b3o9b3o$
22b2o11b2o$24bo9bo2$22bob2o7b2obo$23b2o9b2o$22bo13bo$24bo9bo$23bo11bo
$24bo9bo$22b2o11b2o$22b2o2bo5bo2b2o2$23bobo7bobo$24bo9bo$22bo2b2o5b2o
2bo$21b4ob2o3b2ob4o$20bo4b2o5b2o4bo$27bo3bo$18b2obo15bob2o$21bo15bo$18b
2o5bob2ob2obo5b2o$21bo3b2obobob2o3bo$21b2o3bobobobo3b2o$24b2obo3bob2o
$21bo15bo$23bo11bo$22bo4b2ob2o4bo$28bobo$26bo5bo$26bo5bo$26bobobobo$26b
o5bo$25b3o3b3o$27bo3bo$28bobo$25b2obobob2o$24bo3bobo3bo$23bo3bo3bo3bo
$26bo5bo$23b3o3bo3b3o$27b2ob2o$27b2ob2o2$27b2ob2o$28bobo2$26b7o$25b2o
5b2o$24bo2bo3bo2bo$22b2o2bo5bo2b2o$25b3o3b3o$21bo4bo5bo4bo2$24bob2o3b
2obo$23bo11bo$26b2o3b2o$25b2o5b2o$24b3o5b3o$26bo5bo$23bo11bo$21b2o3bo
5bo3b2o$21b2o2bo7bo2b2o2$21b3o2bo5bo2b3o$21b2o3bo5bo3b2o$24bo9bo$25bo
7bo$26b2o3b2o$24b5ob5o$23b4obobob4o$21b2obobo5bobob2o$21b2o4bo3bo4b2o
$21b2o5bobo5b2o$28bobo$22bobo3b3o3bobo$22bo2bo7bo2bo$22bobo9bobo$24bo
9bo$22bobo9bobo$22bobo9bobo$21bo5bo3bo5bo$20bo2bo2bobobobo2bo2bo$20bo
3bo9bo3bo$21b2ob2ob2ob2ob2ob2o$25bo7bo$24b2o7b2o$22bobo9bobo2$21b3o11b
3o!
I would like to call it "Paraprofessional."

It is related, but not similar to Scholar.

As May13 pointed out, a Paraprofessional can assist a Scholar so that it can push a partial 2c/7 from Sokwe.

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x = 77, y = 124, rule = B3/S23
23bo17bo$22b3o15b3o$22b3o15b3o3$21b2ob2o13b2ob2o$21b2obo15bob2o$25b3o
9b3o$bo12bo13bo7bo25bo12bo$bo12bo10b2o11b2o22bo12bo$obo10bobo9b4ob2ob
2ob4o21bobo10bobo$bo12bo12bo3bobo3bo24bo12bo$bo12bo14bobobobo26bo12bo$
2bo3b4o3bo16b2ob2o28bo3b4o3bo$6b4o20b2ob2o32b4o$2b4o4b4o3b3o5b3o9b3o
17b3o3b4o4b4o2$4bo6bo5bobo5bobo9bobo17bobo5bo6bo$5b2o2b2o6bobo5bobo9bo
bo17bobo6b2o2b2o$18bo7bo11bo19bo$17bo2bo3bo2bo10bo19bo$18bob2ob2obo15b
o11bo$15bo4bo3bo4bo10b2obo9bob2o$15b6o3b6o10bo2bo9bo2bo$15bo4bo3bo4bo
9b2ob2o9b2ob2o$16b2obo5bob2o11bob2o9b2obo$20bo3bo14bo2b2o9b2o2bo$16bo
11bo10b2obo11bob2o$16bo3bo3bo3bo12bo13bo$17bo2bo3bo2bo13bo13bo$17bo2bo
3bo2bo12b3o11b3o$12b3o3bobo3bobo3b3o$11bo2bo3b9o3bo2bo6b2o13b2o$11bo2b
o2b2ob5ob2o2bo2bo$18b2o2bo2b2o15b3o7b3o$17b2o3bo3b2o14b3o7b3o$17b2o7b
2o13b3o9b3o$20b2ob2o$17bo3bobo3bo13b2o11b2o$17bo3bobo3bo14b2o9b2o$17b
2o2bobo2b2o14bobo7bobo$19b3ob3o17b2o7b2o$15b2ob2o5b2ob2o12bob2o5b2obo$
14bo2b2o7b2o2bo10b2ob2o5b2ob2o$13bo17bo9bo3bo5bo3bo$14bob3o7b3obo9b2ob
2o7b2ob2o$17bo2bo3bo2bo11bobo13bobo$18b3o3b3o11b3ob3o7b3ob3o$15b2o4bob
o4b2o8b3o2bo9bo2b3o$20bo3bo14b2o2bobo5bobo2b2o$16bo4bobo4bo12bo4b2ob2o
4bo$13bo6b2ob2o6bo7bo2bo3b2ob2o3bo2bo$12b2o2b3obo3bob3o2b2o8bobo2bo3bo
2bobo$11bo5b4o3b4o5bo3b2o2bo3b2o3b2o3bo2b2o$12bo3b2o2bo3bo2b2o3bo4b2o
5b3o3b3o5b2o$13b3o2bobo3bobo2b3o9b2obobo3bobob2o$41b2o2bobobobo2b2o$
18b3o3b3o16b2o2bobo2b2o$17b2o7b2o13bo5bobo5bo$16b2o9b2o11b2o13b2o$16bo
bo7bobo11b2o3bobobobo3b2o$17bo9bo19bobo$18bobo3bobo19bo3bo$18bobo3bobo
19bo3bo$17bo9bo15b2o2bobo2b2o$17bo9bo18b2ob2o$17bo3bobo3bo14bo3b2ob2o
3bo$18bo2bobo2bo19bo3bo$18bo2bobo2bo16bo3bobo3bo$45bobobobo$19b3ob3o
18b2obobob2o$19bobobobo17bo2bo3bo2bo$20b5o17b2o9b2o$14b3o11b3o13bo7bo$
14b3o11b3o17bo$12bo3bo11bo3bo13b2ob2o$16bo11bo18bobo$17bo9bo18b2ob2o$
12bo3bo3bobobo3bo3bo$13b2o4bo5bo4b2o13bobobobo$14bo15bo15b2ob2o$15b3o
9b3o15b2obob2o$16bo5bo5bo14b2o7b2o$21b3o19b2o7b2o$20b2ob2o17bobo7bobo$
20b5o16b2obo7bob2o$17b3o2bo2b3o18b2ob2o$15bo13bo12bo11bo$15bobo9bobo
12b2ob3ob3ob2o$17bo9bo14b3o7b3o$14bobo11bobo12bo9bo$13bo2bo11bo2bo11b
2o7b2o$14b2o13b2o13bo7bo$44bo7bo$43bo9bo$40b4o9b4o$39bo2b2o9b2o2bo$41b
o13bo$39b2o3b2o5b2o3b2o$44b2o5b2o$44bo7bo2$46b2ob2o$42b2o2b2ob2o2b2o$
43bobo5bobo$41b3ob2o3b2ob3o$39b2ob4obobob4ob2o$43bob2o3b2obo$43bobo2bo
2bobo$40bobo2b7o2bobo$41bo2b2ob3ob2o2bo$44b3obob3o$43b2obobobob2o$41b
2o2b2obob2o2b2o$40bo4b2o3b2o4bo$40bo5bo3bo5bo$41bobo3bobo3bobo$41b3o3b
obo3b3o$40bo3bo2bobo2bo3bo$42b2o9b2o$41b3o9b3o$40bo15bo2$40b2o13b2o!
It could also be called "teacher", but I like the first one better.
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Haycat2009 » March 27th, 2024, 9:00 am

Names I personally suggest:
557P7H2V0: Teacher
30P5H1V0: Caravan
34P5H1V0: Van
37P4H1V0: Teakettle
232P7H3V0: Caudata (In analogy to Anura)
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by squareroot12621 » March 27th, 2024, 6:30 pm

Haycat2009 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 9:00 am
Names I personally suggest:

Snake siamese snake siamese snake...: Constrictor
If we wanted to throw convenience out the window, what about "snasnake", "snasnasnake", "snasnasnasnake", and "sna…snake"?
(Or, if we didn't, we might could try "wide snake", "wide² snake", etc.)

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x = 26, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2ob2obo$ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2o3$
2ob2ob2obo9b2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2o2bobobo2bob2ob2o!

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4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4o8b4o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o$4b8o![[ THEME 0 AUTOSTART GPS 8 Z 16 T 1 T 1 Z 19.027 T 2 T 2 Z 22.627 T 3 T 3 Z 26.909 T 4 T 4 Z 32 T 5 T 5 Z 38.055 T 6 T 6 Z 45.255 T 7 T 7 Z 53.817 LOOP 8 ]]

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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by Period1GliderGun » March 28th, 2024, 12:05 pm

squareroot12621 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 6:30 pm
Haycat2009 wrote:
March 27th, 2024, 9:00 am
Names I personally suggest:

Snake siamese snake siamese snake...: Constrictor
If we wanted to throw convenience out the window, what about "snasnake", "snasnasnake", "snasnasnasnake", and "sna…snake"?
(Or, if we didn't, we might could try "wide snake", "wide² snake", etc.)

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x = 26, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
2ob2obo$ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2o3$
2ob2ob2obo9b2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2o2bobobo2bob2ob2o!
if one wanted to make it even worse, one could say "snake", "snaake", "snaaake," etc. or "snake, sna2ke, sna3ke," etc.
Personally, I would like a system similar to what we already do with barges, ships, e.g. "long^5 snake." Each power of "long" would correspond to another of the below patterns being added.

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x = 7, y = 12, rule = LifeHistory
4$2.2C$3.C$2.C$2.2A$3.A$2.A$2.2A!
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x = 36, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$21bo3bo$13bo7bo$12b4o4bo4bo8b2o$11b2obobo4bo12b2o$2o8b3obo2bo3b
o3bo$2o9b2obobo6bobo$12b4o$13bo!
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by confocaloid » March 28th, 2024, 12:12 pm

The following three still lives are (from top to bottom) order-1 coiled snake, order-2 coiled snake, and order-3 coiled snake:

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x = 13, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
2ob2obo$ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2o3$2ob2ob2ob2obo$ob2ob2ob2ob2o!
The coiled snake is an infinite wick, while these still lives are finite parts of the wick.
I feel like the numbering should start with 1, and anything shorter than order-1 coiled snake is not coiled.

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Period1GliderGun wrote:
March 28th, 2024, 12:05 pm
Personally, I would like a system similar to what we already do with barges, ships, e.g. "long^5 snake."
The "long^" system is already used in a completely different way for snakes (e.g. long³ snake). Further, it is undesirable to have carets in the nomenclature (how "long^2 barge" is supposed to be pronounced?)
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Re: Thread For Your Naming Proposals of Unnamed Patterns

Post by haaaaaands » March 30th, 2024, 6:54 am

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#N unnamedsmalllakerelative.rle
#C https://conwaylife.com/wiki/Small_lake
#C https://www.conwaylife.com/patterns/unnamedsmalllakerelative.rle
x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
4bo$3bobo$3bobo$b2obob2o$o3bo3bo$b2obob2o$3bobo$3bobo$4bo!
i guess a fitting name would be "basket lid"
it looks like the lid of a square basket to be fair
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