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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie » December 3rd, 2018, 5:00 am

2718281828 wrote:smallest lwss gun? (population 73)

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x = 49, y = 40, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o3$21bo$20b3o$19bo3bo$21bo7b2o$18bo5bo4b2o$18bo5bo$19bo3bo$
20b3o9b2o$32b2o$9bo$7bobo19b2o$2o4bobo20b2o$2o3bo2bo$6bobo$7bobo$9bo
29b3o$40bo$38b3o10$40b2o5b2o$40b2o6bo$47bo$37b2o8b2o$37b2o3$40b2o$40b
2o!
The mechanism looks known but I did not see it so far.
Edit1: The mechanism is in jslife p60 guns.
Population 70:

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x = 52, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$20b3o$20b3o$19bo3bo$18bo5bo$19bo3bo$20b3o9b2o$32b2o2$9bob
o$7bo3bo23b2o$2o5bo27b2o$2o4bo4bo$7bo24b2o$7bo3bo20b2o$9bobo11$43bo$
42b3o$41bo2b2o2$50b2o$51bo$41b2o7bo$42b3o5b2o$43bo3$43b2o$43b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by 2718281828 » December 3rd, 2018, 5:20 am

Entity Valkyrie wrote: Population 70:

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x = 52, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$20b3o$20b3o$19bo3bo$18bo5bo$19bo3bo$20b3o9b2o$32b2o2$9bob
o$7bo3bo23b2o$2o5bo27b2o$2o4bo4bo$7bo24b2o$7bo3bo20b2o$9bobo11$43bo$
42b3o$41bo2b2o2$50b2o$51bo$41b2o7bo$42b3o5b2o$43bo3$43b2o$43b2o!
But after one period, (at p=120) your predecessor of the gun did not produce an LWSS, but increases the population to 75 (the glider) excluding the boat. And of course there are multiple ways to remove more cells similarly, e.g. block-> preblock.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie » December 3rd, 2018, 5:25 am

2718281828 wrote:
Entity Valkyrie wrote: Population 70:

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x = 52, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$20b3o$20b3o$19bo3bo$18bo5bo$19bo3bo$20b3o9b2o$32b2o2$9bob
o$7bo3bo23b2o$2o5bo27b2o$2o4bo4bo$7bo24b2o$7bo3bo20b2o$9bobo11$43bo$
42b3o$41bo2b2o2$50b2o$51bo$41b2o7bo$42b3o5b2o$43bo3$43b2o$43b2o!
But after one period, (at p=120) your predecessor of the gun did not produce an LWSS, but increases the population to 75 (the glider) excluding the boat. And of course there are multiple ways to remove more cells similarly, e.g. block-> preblock.
2718281828's gun is a predecessor as well!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by 2718281828 » December 3rd, 2018, 5:36 am

Entity Valkyrie wrote:
2718281828 wrote:
Entity Valkyrie wrote: Population 70:

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x = 52, y = 43, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$20b2o4$20b3o$20b3o$19bo3bo$18bo5bo$19bo3bo$20b3o9b2o$32b2o2$9bob
o$7bo3bo23b2o$2o5bo27b2o$2o4bo4bo$7bo24b2o$7bo3bo20b2o$9bobo11$43bo$
42b3o$41bo2b2o2$50b2o$51bo$41b2o7bo$42b3o5b2o$43bo3$43b2o$43b2o!
But after one period, (at p=120) your predecessor of the gun did not produce an LWSS, but increases the population to 75 (the glider) excluding the boat. And of course there are multiple ways to remove more cells similarly, e.g. block-> preblock.
2718281828's gun is a predecessor as well!
I don't think so. After a full p240 cycle I can perfectly remove 2 LWSS.

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x = 49, y = 85, rule = LifeHistory
20.2A$20.2A3$21.A$20.3A$19.A3.A$21.A7.2A$18.A5.A4.2A$18.A5.A$19.A3.A$
20.3A9.2A$32.2A$9.A$7.A.A19.2A$2A4.A.A20.2A$2A3.A2.A$6.A.A$7.A.A$9.A
29.3A$23.2D15.A$23.3D12.3A$22.D.2D$22.3D$23.D7$40.2A5.2A$40.2A6.A$47.
A$37.2A8.2A$37.2A3$40.2A$40.2A41$23.2D$23.3D$22.D.2D$22.3D$23.D!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by calcyman » December 3rd, 2018, 9:21 am

Still population 73, but period 184 instead of 120:

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x = 39, y = 63, rule = B3/S23
19bo$17b3o$16bo$16b2o$30bo$28b3o$27bo$27b2o$21bo$21bo3$21bo$20b2o$19b
2o$20bobo$2b2o17b2o12bob2o$bobo31b2obo$bo$2o8$6b2o$5bobo$5bo$4b2o4$31b
2o$31b2o8$24b3o3b3o$23bo2bo3bo2bo$23b2obo3bob2o16$24b2o5b2o$24b2o5b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie » December 6th, 2018, 2:51 am

Sokwe wrote:
It's disappointing in a way. The original gun was so clever, and yet we could have done this all along.
That is most likely because no-one knew that 87P26 (or 53P13) had a spark, and even so, no-one knew it was capable of eating gliders.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Gustone » December 12th, 2019, 5:11 am

Gustone glider guns

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x = 76, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$9bo2bo12bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7bo$2o6bo7b2o6bo3b3o2b3o3bobo
3b3o2b3o3bo6b2o$2o6bo6bo5b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o4b2o8b2o$
8bo7bo4b2o35b2o4b3o7b2o$9bo2bo51b2o$11b2o5b2o41bob2o$61bobo$18b2o3b2o
32bo$19b5o33bobo$20b3o35bo$21bo2$55b2o3b2o$55bo5bo2$56bo3bo$57b3o2$21b
2o$21b2o4$57b2o$57b2o4$11b2o$11b2o12bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7b2o$2o
6b2o6bo7bo3b3o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b3o3bo6bobo$2o5b3o5bobo3b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo
3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o6bo7b2o$8b2o11b2o35b2o3bo2bo7b2o$11b2o53bo$11b2o50bo
bo$63b2o$18b2obob2o33bo$18bo5bo32bo$19bo3bo34bo$20b3o2$55b2o3b2o$55b2o
3b2o2$57b3o$57b3o$58bo$21b2o$21b2o4$57b2o$57b2o4$11b2o$10b3o12bo2b2o4b
2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7b2o$2o5bob2o5bo7bo3b3o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b3o3bo6bobo$2o
5bo2bo5bo4b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o4b3o7b2o$7bob2o10b2o35b2o
5b3o6b2o$10b3o51b3o$11b2o50bobo$63b2o$18b2o3b2o$18bobobobo32b2o$19b5o$
20b3o$21bo$55b2o3b2o$55b2o3b2o$56b5o$57bobo2$57b3o$21b2o$21b2o4$57b2o$
57b2o4$10bobo$9bo2bo12bo2b2o4b2o2bo$2o6b2o14bo3b3o2b3o3bo$2o4b2o3bo9b
2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo$8b2o11b2o$9bo2bo$10bobo2$18b2o3b2o$18bo5bo2$19bo3bo$
20b3o7$21b2o$21b2o!
Bronco+snarks+htog

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x = 74, y = 82, rule = B3/S23
44b2o3b2o$42b3obo2b2o$41bo4bo$41bo2b2ob4o$40b2obobobo2bo$41bobobobo$
41bobob2o$42bo2$55b2o$46b2o7bo$46b2o5bobo$53b2o7$43b2o$44bo$41b3o$17bo
23bo22bo$17b3o26b2o14b5o$20bo26bo13bo5bo$19b2o26bobo12b3o2bo$48b2o15bo
b2o$62b4o2bo$8b2ob2o44b2o3bo3b2o$8b2obo45b2o4b3o$11bo53bo$11b3o4b2o45b
ob2o$9b2o3bo3b2o44b2ob2o$8bo2b4o32b2o$8b2obo15b2o19b2o$9bo2b3o12bobo
17bo8b2o$9bo5bo13bo26bo4b2o$10b5o14b2o26b3o2bo$12bo47b2o$55b5o$54bo4bo
12b2o$53bo2bo9b2o5bo$50bo2bob2o9bobob3o$49bobobo5bo8bobo$50bo2bo4bobo
7b2o$53b2o2bo2bo$58b2o$9b2o60b2o$9b2o36bo23b2o$47b3o$50bo$49b2o9$38b2o
$38b2o2$2o$2o66b2o$68b2o2$41b2o$21b2o19bo29b2o$21bobo15b3o11bobo16bo$
23bo15bo6b2o6b2o14bobo$23b2o20bobo6bo15b2o$45bo$44b2o8b2o$54b2o$70b2o$
70bobo$72bo$72b2o2$62b2o$62b2o!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » December 12th, 2019, 11:14 am

Gustone wrote:
December 12th, 2019, 5:11 am
Gustone glider guns

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x = 76, y = 108, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$9bo2bo12bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7bo$2o6bo7b2o6bo3b3o2b3o3bobo
3b3o2b3o3bo6b2o$2o6bo6bo5b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o4b2o8b2o$
8bo7bo4b2o35b2o4b3o7b2o$9bo2bo51b2o$11b2o5b2o41bob2o$61bobo$18b2o3b2o
32bo$19b5o33bobo$20b3o35bo$21bo2$55b2o3b2o$55bo5bo2$56bo3bo$57b3o2$21b
2o$21b2o4$57b2o$57b2o4$11b2o$11b2o12bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7b2o$2o
6b2o6bo7bo3b3o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b3o3bo6bobo$2o5b3o5bobo3b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo
3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o6bo7b2o$8b2o11b2o35b2o3bo2bo7b2o$11b2o53bo$11b2o50bo
bo$63b2o$18b2obob2o33bo$18bo5bo32bo$19bo3bo34bo$20b3o2$55b2o3b2o$55b2o
3b2o2$57b3o$57b3o$58bo$21b2o$21b2o4$57b2o$57b2o4$11b2o$10b3o12bo2b2o4b
2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo7b2o$2o5bob2o5bo7bo3b3o2b3o3bobo3b3o2b3o3bo6bobo$2o
5bo2bo5bo4b2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo3bo2b2o4b2o2bo2b2o4b3o7b2o$7bob2o10b2o35b2o
5b3o6b2o$10b3o51b3o$11b2o50bobo$63b2o$18b2o3b2o$18bobobobo32b2o$19b5o$
20b3o$21bo$55b2o3b2o$55b2o3b2o$56b5o$57bobo2$57b3o$21b2o$21b2o4$57b2o$
57b2o4$10bobo$9bo2bo12bo2b2o4b2o2bo$2o6b2o14bo3b3o2b3o3bo$2o4b2o3bo9b
2o2bo2b2o4b2o2bo$8b2o11b2o$9bo2bo$10bobo2$18b2o3b2o$18bo5bo2$19bo3bo$
20b3o7$21b2o$21b2o!
I wish I made that first because I found that reaction as well:

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x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$o2b2o$bo$o!
A 17 year old guy that have useless discoveries in life and other rules.

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x = 13, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$11b2o4$8b2o$8b2o2$2o$2o3$3b2o$3b2o2$11b2o$10b2o$12bo$3b2o$3b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Moosey » December 12th, 2019, 2:59 pm

The reaction is well known and I think some other lifenthusiast made guns like that, actually.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by nokangaroo » May 12th, 2020, 3:51 pm

I don't really know where to put this, since ceebo's collection seems to be unmaintained.

Here are slightly smaller p43 and p61 glider guns - at least smaller than those in the ceebo collection; it may be out of date. Using converters from the glider pair adjustment toolkit thread:

p43:

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x = 123, y = 88, rule = LifeHistory
103.2A$102.B2AB$28.A11.2A54.B6.2B$27.A.A9.B2AB52.3B4.2B$19.A3.2A2.A.A
9.3B49.14B$10.2A6.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B48.14B$9.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B
48.17B5.B$10.4B5.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B47.25B$8.6B7.A3.A.A.2A4.8B45.29B$8.5B
7.A2.BA.A2.13B45.17BA12B.B$7.6B6.A.2BA.A5.13B34.A7.16B2AB2A11B2A$6.7B
6.2A.2BA5.15B31.3A6.20B2A11B2A$7.6B10.3B4.15B30.A8.4B3.10BA3BABA11B$
7.7B10.2B.B.8B3A6B28.A.A6.4B7.16B.B4.3B$7.6B4.20BA2BA5B27.BA.A5.4B9.
2B.4BA5B$7.7B2.7BA17BA5B25.3BA5.4B13.5B3AB$7.7B2.7B2A12BA2BA7B22.4B6.
4B15.5B2A4B$6.9B.6B3A12B3A3B3.B2A19.6B5.4B16.2A10B$6.11BABA2BA19B4.A
2.A17.7B4.4B17.12B7.2A$.B4.11BABAB2A3B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A9.B.4B.8B2.4B
19.11B2.2A2.A2.A$2AB.13B3A3B14.6B7.A8.2AB.13BA3B18.A2BA.8B2.A.A2.2A$
2A19B14.9B6.2A7.2A15BABA19.AB4.7B3.B.2A$.B.17B15.2A4.4B15.2B.13B2AB
20.A4.7B2.2B2.A$4.17B15.A5.4B17.16B17.3A6.4BAB.2BAB.A.2A$4.17B12.3A7.
4B17.15B17.A8.5B2ABA.A.2A.A$4.15B.B2A10.A10.4B17.12B.B2A24.4B2A2B.A.A
$4.12B4.BA.A21.4B16.11B2.BA.A24.5B4.A2.2A$3.11B9.A22.4B16.10B5.A24.6B
4.2A.3A$2.13B8.2A22.4B15.10B5.2A22.6B6.B4.A$3.12B33.4B14.5B3A3B28.7B
3.B2AB3A$4.10B35.4B13.5B3A2B30.8B.B2A.A$4.9B36.4B9.A.2AB.4B2A2B30.10B
$4.9B36.5B6.3AB2AB3.4BA2B28.11B$4.9B35.9B2.A4.B6.BA2B2A22.2A5.6BA3B$
7.5B36.9B3.3A.2A4.BA3BA24.A5.6B2A2B$8.4B36.3BA5B5.2A2.A4.BA2BA24.A.AB
2.6B3A2B$8.4B35.3BABA4B8.A.A.3B3A2B24.2AB.5BA6B$9.4B33.3B2AB2A4B3.A.
2A.A.A8B26.5B2ABA2B2A2B$10.4B22.2A8.3BA2B2A5B2.2A.A.BA2B.6B7.2A17.8BA
2BA4B$11.4B22.A9.2B2ABA5B6.A2.2B2.7B6.A18.11BAB3A.2B$12.4B21.A.AB4.5B
3A4B7.2A.B3.7B3.BA.A18.8BABA4BA2B2A$13.3BA10.A10.2AB.9B4A2B5.2A2.A.A
2.8B2.B2A18.6B2ABABA2B3A.B2A$14.3BA7.3A12.14B3A4.A2.A2.2A2.11B19.4B2.
2BA4BA.4B.B$15.3AB5.A15.10B2A5B5.2A7.11B18.4B4.2B2ABAB$16.4B4.2A15.9B
2A2B2A2B.B11.11B17.4B5.4BAB$9.2A6.9B14.10B2A7B2A11.11B15.4B6.BA2B$10.
A7.6B14.12B2A5B.B2A11.2B.7B15.4B5.A3B$10.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.14BA5B4.B
11.11B14.4B5.A.AB$11.A2.A4.32B2A2B16.10B14.4B6.A.A$12.2AB3.27B.4B3A2B
14.12B13.2A2B8.A$13.14B3A15B2.B2A3BA13.13B13.2B2A6.3A$14.15BA15B2.5BA
B12.17B9.2BAB7.A$15.13B2A14B4.AB2A2B13.17B7.4B$15.9B2A6B.B.2B10.2B2A
3B11.16B2A2B5.4B$16.8BA6B4.3B10.3B2AB11.2A3.4B.6B2AB5.4B$16.15B5.A2B.
2A6.2B3A2B11.A5.B4.8B3.4B$17.13B5.A.A2B.A7.A2BAB9.3A13.6B2.4B$19.13B
2.A.AB2.A8.2BA3B8.A14.7B.4B$18.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.A3BA4B22.6B.4B$18.6B6.
2ABA2.4A.A5.AB.7B22.9B$18.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A5.A5.4B21.3BA4B$18.B.B9.2A.
2A2.A2.A.A2.3A7.4B19.B5A2B$19.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A10.4B18.A6B$18.B2AB9.A
.A23.4B8.2A7.6B$19.2A11.A25.4B8.A6.2BA3BA$59.4B7.A.AB3.3B3AB$60.4B7.
2AB2.8B$61.4B8.11B$62.4B7.11B$63.4B6.11B$64.4B4.11B$65.4B4.7B$66.4B2.
9B$67.15B$68.13B$69.BABA9B$68.3B2A9B$65.AB.3BA10B$64.A.A13B.B2A$65.A
2B.10B2.BA.A$66.B3.2B.6B5.A$73.6B5.2A$70.10B$66.2A.2A.9B$66.2A.A.11B$
69.A.B.4B2.3BA$69.2A2.2B2AB2.3BA$75.2A4.3AB!
p61:

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x = 124, y = 83, rule = LifeHistory
79.A11.2A$78.A.A9.B2AB$70.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$61.2A6.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$
60.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$28.A11.2A19.4B5.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$27.A.A9.B2AB
16.6B7.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$19.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B17.5B7.A2.BA.A2.13B$10.2A6.A.A
2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B15.6B6.A.2BA.A5.13B$9.B2A2B4.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B14.7B6.2A.
2BA5.15B$10.4B5.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B15.6B10.3B4.15B$8.6B7.A3.A.A.2A4.8B15.
7B10.2B.B.17B$8.5B7.A2.BA.A2.13B16.6B4.10BABA16B$7.6B6.A.2BA.A5.13B
14.7B2.6B3A7B2A13B$6.7B6.2A.2BA5.15B13.7B2.6BA2B2A4BABA14B$7.6B10.3B
4.15B12.9B.6B2AB4A14B3.B2A$7.7B10.2B.B.17B11.18B3A15B4.A2.A$7.6B4.29B
6.B4.20B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$7.7B2.16B2A13B4.2AB.19B14.6B7.A$7.7B2.16B2A
14B3.2A19B14.9B6.2A$6.9B.7BA19B3.B2A3.B.17B15.2A4.4B$6.14B3A19B4.A2.A
5.17B15.A4.4B$.B4.10B2ABA6B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A4.17B12.3A5.5B$2AB.12BA4B
AB14.4B2A7.A4.15B.B2A10.A6.9B$2A15B3AB14.6BABA6.2A3.12B4.BA.A16.9B$.B
.17B15.2A4.A3B9.11B9.A16.9B$4.17B15.A4.4B8.13B8.2A14.10B$4.17B12.3A5.
5B8.12B23.4B3A5B$4.15B.B2A10.A6.4B2A3B6.10B14.2A8.3BA2BA6B$4.12B4.BA.
A16.2BA6B6.9B16.A9.2B2A2B2A3B$3.11B9.A16.6B2AB6.9B16.A.AB4.8B2A2B$2.
13B8.2A14.2B4A2BAB6.9B6.A10.2AB.11B3AB$3.12B23.5BA6B8.5B5.3A12.15BAB$
4.10B14.2A8.13B8.4B4.A15.11B4A2B$4.9B16.A9.4BA6B9.4B4.2A15.8B2A3BA3B.
B$4.9B16.A.AB4.7BABA2B3.2A6.9B14.19B2A$4.9B6.A10.2AB.11B2A2B4.A7.6B
14.14BA4B.B2A$7.5B5.3A12.12BA4B4.A.2A5.2B3AB3.B2.2B2.13BA2BA3B4.B$8.
4B4.A15.10BA3B2AB5.A2.A4.BA3BA24B2A4B$8.4B4.2A15.8B2ABA3BAB.B3.2AB3.B
A3B2A20B.3BA5B$.2A6.9B14.9B2A2BA2B2AB2A3.5BA26B2.4B2AB$2.A7.6B14.13B
2A2BAB.B2A4.4BA2BA23B2.2B3ABA$2.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B4.B6.3BA25B4.2A4B
$3.A2.A4.36B11.4BA3B2A7B.4B10.B2A4B$4.2AB3.27B.9B12.4BA3BA6B3.2B12.2A
4B$5.32B2.7B13.5B3A7B3.3B11.BAB2A2B$6.9BA21B2.7B14.13B5.A2B.2A8.3A2B$
7.9BA19B4.6B16.13B2.A.A2B.A8.BA4B$7.8BA2B3A3B.B.2B10.7B15.8B4.2A.A.AB
2.A7.9B$8.10BA2BAB4.3B10.6B15.6B6.2ABA4.A8.2A.7B$8.8BA4BAB5.A2B.2A6.
7B14.5B8.B2.5A.A7.A5.4B$9.11B2A5.A.A2B.A7.5B15.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A3.
3A7.4B$11.5BA7B2.A.AB2.A8.6B15.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A3.A3.3A5.4B$10.7BA
4.2A.A.A3.A7.8BA13.B2AB11.2A.A.2A5.3A3.A5.4B14.2A$10.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A5.
2A.6BA13.2A26.A2.2A6.4B13.A$10.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A5.A5.3AB43.4B5.4B9.BA.A
$10.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A2.3A7.4B23.A20.3B5.4B5.2A.B2A$11.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A
3.A10.4B22.3A12.B.3B.4B5.4B3.B2A2B$10.B2AB9.A.A23.4B24.A10.21B3.4B6.A
$11.2A11.A25.4B10.A11.2A3.B5.2B2A8B2A15B4.3A$51.4B7.3A11.8B3.2B2A7B2A
15B4.A$52.4B5.A16.8B.13BA6B.7B4.2A$53.4B4.2A15.26BA3BA7B.4B$46.2A6.9B
14.15B.2B2.9BA2B2A8B$47.A7.6B14.17B8.6BA3BA9B$47.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B
11.4BA3BA12B$48.A2.A4.12B2A21B12.2A3B2A13B$49.2AB3.12BA2BA11B.7B12.2B
4A14B2A$50.17BA2BA20B11.4BA15B2A$51.15B2AB2A21B8.2AB.3B3.13B$52.15B2A
12B2.8B8.A.AB7.11B$52.17B.B.2B11.6B8.A12.5B.4B$53.15B4.3B10.5B8.2A10.
6B3.4B$53.15B5.A2B.2A7.4B20.2A8.3BA$54.13B5.A.A2B.A7.3B22.A9.ABA$56.
13B2.A.AB2.A9.4B17.3A11.2A$55.8B4.2A.A.A3.A12.2A17.A$55.6B6.2ABA2.4A.
A10.A$55.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A10.3A$55.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A12.A$56.3B9.A.A2.
2A3.A$55.B2AB9.A.A$56.2A11.A!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by nokangaroo » May 16th, 2020, 3:09 pm

Smaller p377 and p481 with p13 bumper

p377:

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x = 61, y = 62, rule = LifeHistory
22.B$20.2BAB$19.BAB2A$19.BABAB$19.4BAB$19.2BABAB$19.BA3BA$19.BA2BAB$
13.6B2.2A2B.B$12.B2A2B2A2.5B2A6.A$12.4BA2BAB.2B.B2A4.3A$11.B3A4BA2B4.
B4.A$12.BAB2ABA3B9.2A$15.2BA3B7.5B$20.2B4.BA3B$19.B2AB.2BABA3B$20.2A
3BA2BA4B$21.B.3B2A4B$25.6B$25.5B$24.7B$9.A13.4B.4B$9.3A10.4B3.4B$12.A
8.4B5.4B$11.2A7.4B7.4B$11.5B3.4B9.4B$13.3B2.4B11.4B18.A$3.2A7.9B13.4B
11.2A3.A.A$3.A8.8B15.4B11.A3.A2.A$2A.A.B3.10B17.4B10.A.2A.A.A$A2.3AB.
2B2A7B18.4B10.A.A.A.2A$.2A2.BA3B2A7B19.4B10.2B2A.A2.A$3.4A12B20.4B10.
4B2.2A$3.A.2B3.7B.B2A19.4B6.7B$4.3AB2.7B.BA.A19.4B3.8B$7.A4.4B5.A15.
2A3.2B2A.8B$2.5A5.4B5.2A15.A4.BABA8B$2.A10.4B21.A.AB2.A10B.2B$4.A9.4B
10.A10.2AB.14B2A$3.2A10.4B7.3A12.16B2A$16.4B5.A15.14B.2B$17.4B4.2A15.
13B$10.2A6.9B14.14B.2B$11.A7.6B14.18B2A$11.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.19B.B2A$
12.A2.A4.35B2.B$13.2AB3.27B.8B$14.14B2A16B2.7B$15.13B2A16B2.7B$16.29B
3.7B$16.17B.B.2B11.6B.BA$17.15B4.3B10.7BA.A$17.15B5.A2B.2A6.8BA$18.
13B5.A.A2B.A6.6B.B$20.13B2.A.AB2.A7.5B$19.8B4.2A.A.A3.A8.6B$19.6B6.2A
BA2.4A.A4.2AB.5B$19.5B8.B2.A.A3.2A3.A.AB3.4B$19.B.B9.2A.2A.A.A6.A7.4B
$20.3B9.A.A3.A.3A2.2A8.3BA$19.B2AB9.A.A4.A2.A13.3BA$20.2A11.A6.2A15.
3AB!
p481:

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x = 77, y = 63, rule = LifeHistory
33.A$32.A.A$32.A.A$19.A11.2A.3A$19.3A10.B4.A$22.A7.B2AB3A12.A11.2A$
21.2A2.4B.B2A.A13.A.A9.B2AB$21.10B17.A.A9.3B$23.8B15.3A.2A9.B.B$20.
11B14.A4.B8.5B$19.12B2.4B9.3AB2A6.6B$19.18B11.A.2A4.8B$19.19B12.13B$
21.17B14.13B$21.17B13.15B$20.18B2.B10.15B$16.B3.23B5.B.17B$15.2AB.48B
$15.2A21B2A13B2A13B$16.22B2A13B2A14B$9.2A5.3B.44B3.B2A$10.A9.43B4.A2.
A$10.A.AB2.B4.26B2.2B2.B3.4B2A5.2A.A$11.2AB.3B3.8B3.7B2.4B13.3BABA7.A
$13.6B.5B8.6B17.5BA3B6.2A$13.10B11.3B19.2A4.4B$13.2B2A5B13.B21.A5.4B$
9.2A3.A2BA3B33.3A7.4B$8.B2AB2.BABA4B32.A10.4B$9.2B4.BA6B42.4B$4.6B5.
3B2.4B41.2BA2B$.A5BABAB5.2B3.4B39.2BABA4B$BA3BA3BAB4.2B5.4B38.2BA2BA
3B$.AB2A4BA.2B.B2AB5.4B37.4BA4B$.3BA3B2.3A2B2A7.4B35.10B$2.4B2A2.4B.B
9.4B33.10B2A$8.A3BAB12.4B22.2A8.9BA2BA$8.A5B13.4B22.A9.8BABA$8.3BA2B
14.4B21.A.AB4.11BA$8.B2A3B15.4B10.A10.2AB.10B3A2B$8.2BA2B17.4B7.3A12.
12B2A3B$8.5B18.4B5.A15.17B$9.B3A19.4B4.2A15.17B.B$11.B13.2A6.9B14.19B
2A$26.A7.6B14.19B.B2A$26.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B4.B$27.A2.A4.36B$28.2AB
3.27B.9B$29.14B2A16B2.7B$30.13B2A16B2.7B$31.29B4.6B$31.17B.B.2B10.7B$
32.15B4.3B10.6B$32.15B5.A2B.2A6.7B$33.13B5.A.A2B.A7.5B$35.13B2.A.AB2.
A8.6B$34.8B4.2A.A.A3.A7.9B$34.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A5.2A.7B$34.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.
A5.A5.4B$34.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A2.3A7.4B$35.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A10.3BA$34.
B2AB9.A.A23.3BA$35.2A11.A25.3A!
p507/169 Herschel factory (the p169 gun is smaller the ceebo way but can't be directly connected to a conduit AFAIK):

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x = 114, y = 72, rule = LifeHistory
50.A11.2A$49.A.A9.B2AB$41.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$37.A2.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$28.
2A5.3A2.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$27.A2BA3.A6.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$28.2B4.2A7.A3.A.A.
2A4.8B$29.BA5B6.A2.BA.A2.13B$28.A5B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$27.2BA5B6.2A.2BA5.
15B$26.3BA5B10.3B4.15B$24.3BA8B10.2B.B.17B$23.2ABA2BA5B4.19B2A8B$24.
3BABA6B2.21B2A8B$9.2A13.12B2.20B2A10B$10.A12.14B.17BA9B3.B2A$10.A.AB
2.B5.42B4.A2.A$11.2AB.3B3.4B2.21B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$13.6B.4B4.17B14.6B
7.A$13.10B4.2B2A12B14.9B6.2A$13.2B2A5B5.15B15.2A4.4B$9.2A3.A2BA3B5.
17B15.A5.4B$8.B2AB2.BABA4B5.8B.7B12.3A7.4B$9.2B4.BA6B5.6B4.3B.B2A10.A
10.4B$4.6B5.3B2.4B5.4B9.BA.A20.4B$.A5BABAB5.2B3.4B4.6B10.A20.5B$BA3BA
3BAB4.2B5.4B4.B.B2A.A8.2A18.9B$.AB2A4BA.2B.B2AB5.4B5.B2AB3A26.9B$.3BA
3B2.3A2B2A7.4B6.B4.A25.9B$2.4B2A2.4B.B9.4B4.2A.3A25.10B$8.A3BAB12.4B
4.A.A26.12B$8.A5B13.4B3.A.A16.2A8.13B$8.3BA2B14.4B3.A18.A9.12B$8.B2A
3B15.4B21.A.AB4.14B$8.2BA2B17.4B10.A10.2AB.17B$8.5B18.4B7.3A12.18B$9.
B3A19.4B5.A15.11BA6B$11.B21.4B4.2A15.11B2A4B.B$26.2A6.9B14.11B3A5B2A$
27.A7.6B14.13B3A3B.B2A$27.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.14BA2BA4B2.B$28.A2.A4.31B
2A6B10.2A$29.BAB3.27B.5BA4B2A11.A$30.ABA5B2A22B2.4BA6B11.A.AB4.B$31.B
A2B6A21B.6BA5B12.2A2B2.3B$32.ABA2BA23B3.7B.4BA11.9B5.2A$32.2BA2BA2B2A
BA5B.4B10.7B3.BABA11.9B4.A$33.B2A2B2A4BA3B3.2B12.6B3.A2BA12.8B.BA.A9.
2A$33.B3AB2A3BA4B3.3B11.7B3.2A3B2.4B3.9B.B2A9.ABA$34.5BAB2A4B5.A2B.2A
7.6B6.4B.5B2.11B10.3BA$36.13B2.A.A2B.A6.6B7.10B2.11B9.4B$35.BA2BA3B4.
2A.A.AB2.A7.6B9.21B8.4B$35.B3A2B6.2ABA4.A7.8B9.19B8.4B$35.2BA2B8.B2.
5A.A6.6B8.B2.19B6.4B$35.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A5.7B5.26B3.4B$36.3B4.A.2A.
A2.A.2A2.A4.9B2A30B.4B$35.B2AB11.2A.A.2A3.B.2B2A5B3AB2A2B2A21B.4B$36.
2A21.2A3B2A6B2AB3AB2A25B$59.2A10B3AB2A28B$60.12B2A30B$58.5B2.B2.2B2.
33B$58.2A4.3B7.4B2.7B2.16B$59.A3.B2AB13.6B3.16B$56.3A5.2A16.3B5.14B$
56.A26.B4.3B.9B$88.2A3.8B$89.A6.4B$86.3A5.4B$86.A7.2A$95.A$92.3A$92.A
!

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » May 16th, 2020, 3:30 pm

nokangaroo wrote:
May 12th, 2020, 3:51 pm
I don't really know where to put this, since ceebo's collection seems to be unmaintained...
The traditional location is a thread started by Freywa years ago called "Execution of Old Guns By Variable-Speed Firing Squad". I've cross-posted your messages there.

We're all hoping that chris_c's maintenance work is only temporarily suspended, since nobody else is very good at wrestling the various scripts into submission, to get updated READMEs and statistics.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by JP21 » July 13th, 2020, 11:50 pm

I'm no good on this type of stuff. But, I made one. It's poorly optimized but I see no other guns for it. I will leave it to someone else to optimize it.

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x = 397, y = 280, rule = B3/S23
212bo$212b3o$215bo$214b2o5$203b2o$203b2o4b3o$209bo2bo$210bob2o122b2o$
212bo123b2o$209b2o3bo$209bo2b2o$208b2o2b2o102b2o15b2o$208bobo19b2o83bo
2bo14b2o$209bo20b2o84bo2bo$312bo6bo16b2o$219bo7b2o5b2o75bobo3bo2bo15b
2o$217bobo7b2o5b2o76b2o3b3o24b2o$218b2o81bo42bo$301b3o8b2o3b3o5b3o14bo
bo$210bo5bo87bo6bobo3bo2bo4b3o14b2o$210bo5bo86b2o7bo6bo5bo2bo$208b4o3b
4o97bo2bo6b3o$207b2o9b2o85b3o7bo2bo7b2o$206b3o2b2ob2o2b3o84b3o8b2o$
206b2o3b2ob2o3b2o83bo3bo$207b3obo3bob3o83bo5bo$208b2o7b2o85bo3bo$209b
3o3b3o87b3o$211b2ob2o28b2o$210bobobobo26b2o$211bo3bo24b2o3bo$239bobo
83b2o$241bo83b2o$249b3o3b2o$251bo2b2o72b2o$250bo5bo40bo30b2o$296bobo$
289b2o3b2o3bo$103b2o184b2o3b2o3bo25b2o$103b2o189b2o3bo25b2o$296bobo$
297bo$105b2o18b2o$103bo3bo16bo2bo$103bo7bo15b2o$102bo4bo4bo8bo5b3o86b
2o38bo130b2o$102bo3bo3b2o8bobo3bo2bo87b2o36b2o52bo77b2o$95b2o6bobo15b
2o3b3o87bo38bobo50b2o$96bo7bo34bo168b3o57b2o$96bobo22b2o3b3o8b3o79b2o
8bo69bob2o5b2o57b4o13b2o$97b2o21bobo3bo2bo6bo81bobo8b2o68b2obo6b2o55b
2ob3o12b2o$121bo5b3o6b2o82bo7bobo134b3o3bo$127b2o94b2o36b2o100bobo5b3o
13b2o$116bo7bo2bo5bo88bobo36bobo98bob2ob3obo15b2o$117bo7b2o6bo90bo36bo
101b2o3b2o25b2o$115b3o109b3o122bo42bo$229bo122b3o8b2o3b2o23bobo$131b2o
3b2o90bo126bo6bob2ob3obo21b2o$132b5o121b3o93b2o7bobo5b3o$133b3o122bo
106b3o3bo$134bo124bo58b2o46b2ob3o4b3o$318bo48b4o5bo2bo$114b2o200bobo
49b2o8b2o$114b2o200b2o$356b3o15bo2bo$111b2o242bo3bo15b2o$111b2o29bo
211bo5bo17b2o$141b2o211b2obob2o16b3o$140b2o4b2o2b2o166b2o58bo$114b2o
23b3o4b2o2b2o166bo56bo2bo$114b2o24b2o4b2o168bobo11b2o25bo18b2o$141b2o
173b2o12bo25bobo$142bo185bobo25bobo20b2o$324b2o2b2o21b2o5bo7bo12b2o$
324b2o24bobo11b4o$340b2o7bo12b4ob2o$340b2o7bo2bo9b2o2b3o7b2o$349bo11b
2o3b2o8b2o$323b2o25bobo13bo$323b2o4b2o20b2o10bobo$138b2obo187b2o32b2o$
138bob2o217b3o2b2o$359b2o3b2o$131b2o107b2o117bo$131b2o107b2o117b2obo$
360b3o$328b2o31bo$328bobo19bob2o$304b2o24bo19b2obo$303b2o25b2o$180b2o
123bo53b2o$121b2o56bobo177b2o$122bo58bo59bo$122bobo64b3o48b3o9b2o61b2o
$123b2o66bo47b5o9bo60b2o$190bo29b2o16b2o3b2o7bo63bo$221bo30b2o$51b2o
168bobo8bo$51b2o169b2o7b2o136b2o$121b2o107b2o4b2obo3bo125bo$71bo50bo
106b3o4b2obo3bo123bobo$54b2o13b2obo36b2o11bobo105b2o4b2o129b2o$54b2o
13bo3bo36bo12b2o12b2o92b2o14b2o6b2o$67bo5bo36bob2o23b2o93bo13b2ob2o4b
2o$51b2o14bo5bo2bo34bo3b2o124bo8bo$51b2o14bo7bobo38bo39b2o60bo3bo18bob
obo4bo65bo$43b2o13b3o8b4o2b2o51b2o27b2o58bobobobo16bo8bo65b2o52b2o$44b
o13bo28bo25bo4bo9b2o13b2o11bo61b2ob2o17bo4b3o67bobo51bo$44bobo11b3o8b
4o2b2o8b3o30bo23b3o94bo4bobo120bobo11b2o$45b2o20bo7bobo6bo32bo23b4o14b
2o8bo45b3o5b3o13bo3bo123b2o12bo$59bo7bo5bo2bo7b2o24b2o28b2o4b3o9bobo8b
2o43bo4bobo4bo12b4o22b2o6b2o104bobo$59b3o5bo5bo36b2o29bo4b3o11bo7bobo
42bo5bobo5bo38bo7bo100b2o2b2o$61b3o5bo3bo42b3o23bob2o2bo14b2o49bo4bobo
4bo36b3o5b3o101b2o$61b2o6b2obo41b2o2bo24b2o5b2o10bobo49b2o3bobo3b2o36b
o7bo$71bo43b3o26b3obo15bo$116bo28b3o19b3o46b3o3b3o$147bo21bo204b2o$
111b2o26bo28bo112b2o91b2o4b2o$79b2o3b2o24bobo25b3obo85b3o3bo41b2o3b2o
97b2o$110bo26bo5b2o81b5o2bobo5b2o33b2o$80bo3bo24b2o26bobo3b2o80b2o8bo
5b2o$62b2o17b3o54b5o83b2o4b3o$62b2o17b3o143bo3b2o4b2o36b2o12b2o$237b2o
37bo5b2o5bo$59b2o212b3o6b2o6b3o86b2o$59b2o27bo184bo18bo86bobo$86bobo
292bo$84b2o12b2o114b2o165b2o$62b2o20b2o12b2o114b2o$62b2o20b2o$86bobo
107b2o12b2o5b2o$88bo105bo2bo12b2o5b2o78b2o$297b2o$193bo2$194b2o$196bo
24b2o$222bo$219b3o$86b2obo103b2o3b2o19bo$86bob2o59b2o33b2o7b2o3b2o97b
3o71b3o3b3o$149bobo32bo9b5o97bo3bo8b2o59bo3bobo3bo$8b2o69b2o68bobo33bo
9bobo18b2o77bo5bo8bo59bo3bobo3bo$8b2o69b2o69b2o32b2o30bo60b2o16b2obob
2o7bo59bob4ob4obo$146bob2o45b3o9b2o5bobo61bo30b2o58b2o9b2o$28bo118bo
58b3o5b2o62bobo7b2o$26b2obo173bob2o72b2o6bobo$16bo9bo3bo172bo2bo79bo6b
2o78b2ob2o$9bo4b2obo6bo5bo172bob2o79bo2bo2bo71b2o6bobobobo$9b2o2b2o2bo
6bo5bo2bo121bobo23b2o23b3o77bo6b3o67b2o8bo3bo$10b2o2bo9bo7bobo34b2o49b
2o34b2o23b2o24b2o78bobo13b4o5b2o51bo$2o9b2ob2o10b4o2b2o36bo48bobo34bo
56b3o3b3o66b2o13b2ob2o4b2o$bo12bo29bo25bobo48bo177bo3bo3b2o$bobo8b2o
12b4o2b2o8b3o26b2o56b3o79b2o3bobo3b2o51bo3bo17b3o6b2o$2b2o20bo7bobo6bo
89bo79bo4bobo4bo50bobobobo16b2o2b2o50b2o5b2o$24bo5bo2bo7b2o87bo71bo7bo
5bobo5bo50b2ob2o16b2o4b3o48b2o5b2o$19bo4bo5bo170b2o8bo4bobo4bo49b3o3b
3o14b2o3bob2o$20b2o4bo3bo8bo123b2o6b2o28bobo8b3o5b3o49b2o7b2o12b2ob3o
56b2o$19b2o5b2obo8bobo28b2o92bo7bo99b3obo3bob3o12b4o22b2o6b2o25b2o$28b
o8bo3bo28bo93b3o5b3o40b2ob2o50b2o3b2ob2o3b2o12b2o24bo7bo$38b3o16b2o11b
obo93bo7bo39bobobobo49b3o2b2ob2o2b3o35b3o5b3o$36b2o3b2o15bo12b2o12b2o
128bo3bo51b2o9b2o36bo7bo$58bobo24b2o185b4o3b4o97b2o$59b2o2b2o209bo5bo
88b2o3bo5b2o$63b2o90b2o117bo5bo87bob2obo3bo$155b2o3b2o124bo51b2o27b2o
4bobo2bo5b2o$19b2o139b2o33b2o5b2o83bo3bo41b2o3b2o28b2o2b3o2b2o5b2o$19b
2o174b2o5b2o78b2o3bo4bo5b2o33b2o37b2o$282bo3bo2bo2bo5b2o$16b2o40b2o9bo
7bo21b2o8bo37b2o12b2o36b2o81bobo3b4o$16b2o29bo10b2o7b2obo6b2o5bo13bobo
8b2o37bo5b2o5bo37b2o82b2o3b2o4b2o36b2o12b2o$47bobo17bo2b2o4bob2o2b3o6b
3o6bo7bobo34b3o6b2o6b3o129b2o37bo5b2o5bo26b2o$48bobo4b2o11b2o6bobo2b3o
9bo9b2o40bo18bo165b3o6b2o6b3o23bo$19b2o27bo2bo3b2o19b2o4bobo6b3o8bobo
225bo18bo24b3o$19b2o27bobo32b4o4bo2bo9bo100bo2bo13b2o152bo$47bobo37bo
4bobo49b2o58b2o2bob2o10b2o47b2o$47bo11b2o21bo2b3o4bobo49b2o57bo4bob2o
59b2o$58bobo21bo127b2o7b2o5b2o$58bo23bobo14b2o102b2o4bo9b2o5b2o39b2o5b
2o$57b2o37b2ob2o104b2ob2o57b2o5b2o$96bo4bo$96bo2bo2bo$98bo3bo$97bo3b2o
112b2o$43b2obo51b2o44bo70bo62b2o$43bob2o51bo33b2o9b3o70b3o60bo$132bo9b
5o71bo57b3o$36b2o56b2o37bo7b2o3b2o16b2o110bo$36b2o56bobob2o10b2o20b2o
30bo$95b2o2bo10b2o41bo8bobo$98bo54b2o7b2o$99bo43b3o2b2o4b2o$95bo2b2obo
41b3o2b2o4b3o$102bo45b2o4b2o$95bo33b2o22b2o$26b2o73bo27b2o22bo$27bo70b
o2b2obo$27bobo72b3o56b3o3b3o$28b2o73bo56bo3bobo3bo$102bo57bo3bobo3bo$
99bobo57bob4ob4obo$100bo58b2o9b2o$111b2o6b2o$26b2o83bo7bo$27bo84b3o5b
3o40b2ob2o$14b2o11bobo84bo7bo39bobobobo$15bo12b2o12b2o56b2o61bo3bo$15b
obo24b2o55bo3bo$16b2o2b2o78bo2bo$20b2o80b2o$60b2o46b2o$33b3o23bobo46b
2o33b2o5b2o$20b3o10bobo13bo11bo81b2o5b2o$19bo2bo9bo15b2o19b3o90bo$15b
2obo13bo2b2o10b2o3bo18bo23b2o12b2o36b2o11b2ob2o$15b2o2bo2bo9b2o2bo11bo
4bo16bo25bo5b2o5bo37b2o14b5o$20b3o10bo15bo2bo40b3o6b2o6b3o51bo2bo$34bo
15bo2bo39bo18bo51bo2bo$52b2o111b2o$52b2o49b2o65b2o$103b2o65b2o$16b2o
31b2o$15bobo25bo2b2o2bo116b2o5b2o$15bo26bob4ob2o116b2o5b2o$14b2o26bo2b
o2bo$43b2o$102b3o$101b2ob2o$101b2ob2o57b2o$91b2o8b5o57bo$91bo8b2o3b2o
57b3o$67b2o23bo30b2o41bo$67b3o21b2o30bo$69b2o42bo7bobo$61b3o49b4o4b2o$
60b5o49b4o$59bo3bob2o47bo2bo$29b2o29b3o3bo41bo5b4o$29b2o30bo26b2o18bo
4b4o$63bo24b2o23bo$63bo10bo$26b2o47bo46bo3bo$26b2o45b3o45bobobobo$122b
2ob2o$29b2o89b3o3b3o$19bo9b2o88b2o7b2o$17b6o47b2o6b2o38b3obo3bob3o$17b
2o2b2o47bo7bo38b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$71b3o5b3o35b3o2b2ob2o2b3o$21bo51bo7bo36b
2o9b2o$17b2o2bo97b4o3b4o$17b2o3bo98bo5bo$21bo15b2o82bo5bo$19bobo14b4o
22b2o$20bo14b3ob2o21b2o3b2o$35bo3b3o25b2o33b2o5b2o$33b3o5bobo58b2o5b2o
$12b2o21bob3ob2obo64bo$11bobo23b2o3b2o10b2o12b2o$11bo43bo5b2o5bo38bo3b
2o$10b2o25b2o3b2o8b3o6b2o6b3o38bo2bo$18b2o15bob3ob2obo7bo18bo38bo3bo$
18b2o13b3o5bobo66bo$35bo3b3o65bo5bo15b2o$21b2o12b3ob2o67b2o2bo16b2o$
21b2o13b4o71bo5bo$37b2o76bobo8b2o5b2o$116b2o8b2o5b2o$18b2o$18b2o3$122b
2o$122bo$123b3o$125bo!
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x = 350, y = 264, rule = B3/S23
116b2o67b2o121b2o$116b2o67b2o121b2o2$286bo$119b2o17b2o48b2o16bo3b2o72b
2obo17b2o$109b2o8b2o16bo2bo37b2o8b3obo11b2obo76bo3bo16b2o8b2o$110bo29b
2o37bo9b5o10b3o75bo5bo26bo$109bo6b2o16bo5b3o35bo6b2o3bo2b2o8bo6bo71bo
5bo2bo16b2o6bo$109b2o5b2o9bo5bobo3bo2bo35b2o5b2o2b4obo7bo2bobobobo70bo
7bobo15b2o5b2o$124b6o4b2o3b3o47bo4bo8b3obob2o73b4o2b2o$124b2o2b2o22bo
37b2o2bo78bo$134b2o3b3o8b3o38b2o10b3obob2o62b3o8b4o2b2o$125bo7bobo3bo
2bo6bo52bo2bobobobo64bo5bo7bobo$125bo2b2o4bo5b3o6b2o45bo6bo6bo64b2o5bo
5bo2bo19b2o$124bo3b2o10b2o52bobo7b3o75bo5bo23b2o$125bo11bo2bo54b2o7b2o
bo76bo3bo22bo$125bobo10b2o66bo3b2o72b2obo$126bo159bo2$144b2o3b2o147bo$
147bo127b2o3b2o15b3o41b2o$144bo5bo125b5o15bo2b2o40b2o$145b2ob2o126b2ob
2o15b3o$146bobo127b2ob2o$127b2o18bo48b2o79b3o39b2o17b2o$127b2o18bo48b
2o120bo2bo16b2o8b2o$221b2o76b2o16b2o29bo$124b2o67b2o25b2o75bo2bo15b3o
5bo16b2o6bo$124b2o27bobo37b2o22b2o3bo48bo25b3o16bo2bo3bobo8b2o5b2o5b2o
$152bo2bo60bobo52b4o9b2o12bo18b3o3b2o9bob2o$151b2o10b2o53bo42b2o9b4o7b
o2bo19bo29b2o$127b2o20b2o3bo8b2o31b2o28b3o3b2o27b2o9bo2bo6b2ob2o10b2o
7b3o8b3o3b2o9b2o$127b2o22b2o5b2o36b2o30bo2b2o33bo5b4o5bobo13b2o10bo6bo
2bo3bobo6b2o$152bo2bo4bo66bo5bo32bo4b4o5b2o26b2o6b3o5bo$153bobo115bo8b
o3bo32b2o13bobo$281bo2bo33bo2bo11bo$281b3o35b2o4$310b3o$143bo165bo3bo$
143b2o6b2obo116bob2o33bo5bo$142bo2bo5bob2o38b2o38bo37b2obo33bo5bo$143b
obo48b2o36b2o77bo18b2o$143b2o48bo38bobo45b2o27bo3bo16b2o$280b2o28b3o$
196b2o8bo104bo21b2o$195bobo8b2o98b2o25b2o$197bo7bobo97bo3bo$200b2o36b
2o54b2o8bo5bo$199bobo36bobo53b2o8bo3bob2o18b2o$71b2o128bo36bo65bo5bo
19b2o$71b2o61b2o68b3o83b2o13bo3bo$135bo70bo83bo15b2o$135bobo67bo82bobo
$74b2o17b2o41b2o97b3o50b2o$64b2o8b2o16bo2bo139bo$65bo27bo2bo139bo$64bo
6b2o16bo6bo$64b2o5b2o15bobo3bo2bo$89b2o3b3o$107bo27b2o152b2o12b2ob2o$
89b2o3b3o8b3o14b2o12bo152bo12bob2obo$88bobo3bo2bo6bo18bo12bobo148bobo
12bo$89bo6bo7b2o17bobo11b2o148b2o11bobo10b2o$93bo2bo27b2o2b2o166b2o2b
2o11b2o$92bo2bo32b2o166b2o$93b2o109b2o40b2o$204b2o39bo2bo$73b2o27bo$
72b2o27b3o25b2o111b2o51b2o$74bo25b5o18b2o4b2o112bo3bo47b2o4b2o$99bobob
obo17b2o117b2o3bo53b2o20b2o$77b2o20b2o3b2o99bo38b2o3b2o72bo$74b2o2bo
124b2ob2o34b6ob2o70bobo$74bo2bo4b2o158bobo76b2o$75b3o4b2o18bo99bo5bo
32bo2bo$101bobo112b2o24bobo3b2o$79b2o14bo5bobo20b2o76b2obob2o8bo30b2o
50b2o$79b2o15b2o4bo4b2o14bobo58b2o30bo35b2o46bobo$95b2o5b2o3bobo13bo
61bo30b2o28bo5bobo47bo$102b2o4b3o7b2o2b2o61bobo5bobo48b2o7bobo46b2o18b
2o$82b2o17bo2bo4b3o6b2o66b2o3bo3bo48bo2b2o5bo67bo12b2o$82b2o18b2o4b3o
80bo115b2o11bobo12bo$107bobo80bo4bo51bo59b2o11b2o11bobo$107b2o82bo55bo
33b2o46b2o2b2o$191bo3bo23b2o24bo2b2o30b2o47b2o$157b2o34bobo23b2o27bo
33bo$156bobo83bo5bo$158bo23bo3bo59b2o$166b3o12bobobobo54bobo47b2o21b2o
$168bo13b2ob2o104b2o20bo2bo9b2o6b2o$167bo125bo6b2o10bo3bo10b2o5b2o$
106b2obo69bo9bo48b2o59bob2o8bo3bob3o6b2o$106bob2o68bobo7bobo38b2o8bo
58bo3bo8bobob5o5b3o$178bo3b2ob2o3bo5bo33bo5b3o58b2ob4o9bob2ob2o$28b2o
69b2o78bo3bobo3bo6b2o29b3o6bo61bo2bobo2b4ob4o$28b2o69b2o79b2obobob2o6b
obo29bo70b2o3bo4b2ob3o$182bo3bo112b2o7bo2b3o19b2o$305bo2bo2b2o20bobo$
31b2o17b2o254b2o27bo$21b2o8b2o16bo2bo192b2o88b2o$22bo27bo2bo186b2o3b2o
46bo$21bo6b2o16bo6bo144b2o5b2o33b2o50b2o$21b2o5b2o15bobo3bo2bo34b2o
107b2o5b2o85bobo$46b2o3b3o36bo$64bo25bobo43b2o8bo54b2o36b2o12b2o$46b2o
3b3o8b3o26b2o42bobo8b2o53b2o37bo5b2o5bo$45bobo3bo2bo6bo75bo7bobo89b3o
6b2o6b3o$46bo6bo7b2o77b2o95bo18bo$26b2o22bo2bo85bobo$25b2o22bo2bo88bo
36b2o121b2o$27bo22b2o92b3o31b2o8bob2o66b2o40bo2bo$90b2o54bo41bo3bobo
63b2o40bobo$77b2o12bo53bo28b2o5b2o11bo104b2o$56b2o3b2o15bo12bobo80b2o
5b2o9bobo104bo2b2o$56bo5bo15bobo11b2o94bobo107b2ob3o$39bo39b2o2b2o213b
o5bo$38b3o16bo3bo21b2o11b2o204bobo22b2ob2o3b2ob2o$37b2obo17b3o34b2o
200bo28bo5bobo5bo$38b2o57bo38b2o41b2o115bo34b2ob2o$38b3o95b2o36bo4bo2b
o113b3obo2bo25bo7bo$38b2obo42b2o50bobo35b3o4b2o87b2o24bo3bobo23bo2bob
2ob2obo2bo$38bobo37b2o4b2o52bo38bo80b3o10bo24b2ob2o26bo3bo3bo3bo$39bo
26b2o10b2o56bo2bo36b2o60b2o17bo3bo8bo26bo8b2o20b2ob2ob2ob2o$52bo11bo2b
o7bo29bo29b5o99bo16bo5bo7b2o20b2o6bo5bobo20bo2bobo2bo$52b2o9bo7b2o3bo
29b4o24bo4bo99bobo9bo5bo3bo30b2o4b3o6bobo20bobobobo$39b2o22bo6bo5bo32b
2o23bobob2o100b2o8bobo5b3o37b2obo6bo22bo3bo$39b2o12bo2bo6bo7b5o31bo3bo
23b6o108bo3b2o3b3o38b3o$53bo2bo7bo2bo40b3o25b3ob2o107bo3b2o45bo$54b3o
9b2o11b2o28bo26b2o3b2o106bo3b2o$78bobo55bo6bo23b2o81bobo20b2o42b3o$78b
o59b2o27bo83bo21b2o36b2o4b4o$77b2o52b2o2bo3b4o25bo8b5o17b2o110b2o3bo3b
2o$130bobo5bobo4b2o20b2o7bob3obo16bo36bo3bo55b2o22bo$129bobo7bo5b2o30b
o3bo5bo9bobo35bobobobo54b2o17b2o2bo$130bo5bo2bo38b3o5bobo8b2o37b2ob2o$
137b3o39bo5bob2o45b3o3b3o$63b2obo117b2ob2o44b2o7b2o48b2o$63bob2o118bob
2o43b3obo3bob3o38b2o8bo24bo$164b2o20bobo42b2o3b2ob2o3b2o38bo5b3o26bo
18b2o$56b2o106b2o21bo43b3o2b2ob2o2b3o35b3o6bo27bo19b2o$56b2o174b2o9b2o
36bo$141b2o55bo3bo30b4o3b4o3b2o86b2o5b2o$141b2o54bobobobo31bo5bo4bobo
78bo7b2o5b2o$198b2ob2o32bo5bo6bo79b2o$299b2o7bo18b2o$97b2o46b2o48b3o5b
3o88b2o3bo7bo$96bobo46bo8b2o38bo4bobo4bo45b2o5b2o33b2o12bo$46b2o50bo
47b3o5bo38bo5bobo5bo44b2o5b2o$47bo58b3o39bo6b3o36bo4bobo4bo128bob2o$
47bobo58bo48bo36b2o3bobo3b2o48b2o36b2o12b2o26b2obo$48b2o57bo83bo63b2o
37bo5b2o5bo$190b2o4b3o3b3o86b3o6b2o6b3o$133bobo54bobo98bo18bo$129b2o7b
2o$131bo5bobo3b2o87b2o6bo$129b2o3bo8b2o33b2o5b2o45bobo5b3o$47b2o129b2o
5b2o52bo3bo$34b2o12bo179b2o6b3o4bo$35bo12bobo79b2o12b2o36b2o44b2o6b3ob
ob2o$35bobo11b2o80bo5b2o5bo37b2o52b2o3bo$36b2o2b2o86b3o6b2o6b3o$40b2o
86bo18bo$134bo$132b3o70b2o$86bo44bo65b3o4bo2bo25b2obo$41b2o43b2o43b2o
63b2o3bo2bo28bob2o$35b2o4b2o42bobo107b2o2bobo7b2o$35b2o159bo5bo7bo$
197b2o2bo4bo$201bo4bo2bo$84b3o$84bo2bo$82b2o2b2o29b2o10bo$36b2o44b2o
33bo10b3o71bob2o$35bobo43b3o34bo8b5o17b2o51b2obo$35bo45bo13b2o20b2o7b
2o3b2o16bo$34b2o46b4o9b2o30b5o5bo9bobo$82bo3b2o39bo3bo3b4o8b2o$128bobo
3bobob2o$84bo44bo3bo2bob3o$85bo2bo45bobob2o$86b2o26b2o19b4o$87bo26b2o
21bo$84b2o$83bob3o58b3o3b3o$87b2o56bo3bobo3bo$87b2o56bo3bobo3bo$87b2o
55bob4ob4obo$84b2obo7b2o47b2o9b2o$85b3o7bo8b2o$86bo9b3o5bo$98bo6b3o40b
2ob2o$107bo39bobobobo$148bo3bo3$88b2o$88b2o3b2o41bobo2b2o$93b2o33b2o5b
o3bob3o$128b2o6bo6b2o$137b5obo$80b2o12b2o36bo6b4o$81bo5b2o5bo37b2o6bo$
78b3o6b2o6b3o$78bo18bo$84bo$84b3o68b2o$87bo67b2o$46b3o37b2o$48bo103b2o
5b2o$47bo104b2o5b2o4$88b3o55bobo$77b2o8bo3bo54bo$77bo8bo5bo57bobob2o$
78bo7b2obob2o16b2o37bobob2obo$77b2o30bo$98b2o7bobo$18b2o69bo8bobo6b2o$
18b2o68bobo2b2o6bo$88bobobo2bo2bo2bo$89bo3b2o6bo$15b2o43b2o12b2o22bobo
$15b2o40b2ob3o11b2o22b2o$56b3ob2o$18b2o37b2ob3o45bo3bo$18b2o41b2o44bob
obobo$108b2ob2o2$55b2o48bo9bo$55bo8b2o38bo11bo$56b3o5bo39bo3b2ob2o3bo$
58bo6b3o37b3obobob3o$26b2o39bo38b2obobob2o$25b4o78b2o3b2o$24b3ob2o$16b
3o5bo3b3o$18bo3b3o5bobo15b2o$17bo6bob3ob2obo14b2o3b2o$26b2o3b2o20b2o
33b2o5b2o$12b2o74b2o5b2o$12bob3o9b2o3b2o$2o5b2o3b2o2bo7bob3ob2obo6b2o
12b2o36b2o$o6b2o4b3o6b3o5bobo8bo5b2o5bo37b2o$bo12bo9bo3b3o7b3o6b2o6b3o
$2o8b2o12b3ob2o8bo18bo$10b2o13b4o$26b2o87b2o$104b2o3b2o4b2o$7b2o94bobo
3b4o$7b2o94bo3bo2bo2bo5b2o$103b2o3bo4bo5b2o$108bo3bo$107bo4$112bob2o$
112b2obo!
More optimized but not really because it still uses Fx119. I want to know if there are already smaller p240 copperhead guns.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by dvgrn » July 19th, 2020, 6:12 pm

JP21 wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 11:50 pm
I want to know if there are already smaller p240 copperhead guns.
The Stable Signal Converters thread doesn't seem to have any pointers to smaller guns. There's this p197 copperhead gun, which uses a recipe similar to yours but not identical -- and also this glider-to-copperhead converter which can be used to make any gun with period 197 or greater, just by swapping in a different input gun. It's 471x594, so definitely much larger than your fixed p240 gun, but also much more versatile.

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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » July 19th, 2020, 11:03 pm

P240 copperhead gun:

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x = 303, y = 204, rule = B3/S23
148b2o19b2o$149bo19bo$149bobo6bobo6bobo$150b2o6bo2bo5b2o$161b2o$159bo
3b2o$151bobo7b2o$153bo4bo2bo$152b2o4bobo6$248b2o19b2o5b2o$242bo6bo19bo
6b2o$242b3o4bobo7b2o6bobo$245bo4b2o5bo2bo6b2o$116b3o3b3o119b2o10bo22b
2o$178b2o76bo6bo15b2o$114b2o3bobo3b2o50b2o68bo8bo7b2o$114bo4bobo4bo47b
2o3bo66bobo8bo2bo15b2o$113bo5bobo5bo45bobo69bo3bo9b2o15b2o$114bo4bobo
4bo48bo70b3o$115b3o5b3o57b3o3b2o53b2o3b2o35b3o$185bo2b2o95bo3bo$118b2o
b2o61bo5bo93bo$117bobobobo$118bo3bo161bo3b2o$285b3o$262b2o3bo$266bob2o
$267b3o$125bo8b2o5b2o96bo23bo6bo$125b2o7b2o5b2o94bobo22bobobobo2bo$
124b3o109bobo24b2obob3o$119bobo2bo12b2o11b2o38bo44bo2bo$119bobob2o12b
2o12b2o36b2o45bobo24b2obob3o$119b3o28bo38bobo40b2o3bobo22bobobobo2bo
15b2o5b2o$231bobo5bo23bo6bo16b2o6bo$153b2o8bo67bo35b3o24bo$114b2o36bob
o8b2o65b2o34bob2o14b2o8b2o$114b2o38bo7bobo97b2o3bo16b2o$157b2o36b2o$
110b2o5b2o37bobo36bobo$110b2o5b2o39bo36bo44b2o45b2o$161b3o76bo46b2o$
163bo72bo4b3o3b2o$162bo71b3o6bo3b4obo$192b3o38bo15b2o2b2o$192bo40b2o
15b3o$115b2obo74bo52bo$115bob2o111bo16bobo$230bo17b2o$247b2o2b3o$81bob
2o162b2o3b2o$81b2obo143b2o3b2o18bo$229b5o16bob2o$230b3o17b3o6b2o$189b
2obo38bo19bo7bo$189bob2o64bobo$82b3o172b2o$76b2o4b4o$76b2o3bo3b2o$85bo
$80b2o2bo$180b2o7b2o5b2o35b2o24bo$189b2o5b2o35bo23b3o$179bobo52b3o19bo
14b2o$83bo93bo14b2o42bo19b2o13bo$84bo18b2o41b3o24b2obob2o12b2o75bobo$
32bob2o47bo19b2o40bo3bo24bob2o87b2o2b2o$32b2obo109bo3bo25bo89b2o$100b
2o5b2o37b3o$92bo7b2o5b2o60b2o123b2obo$93b2o74b2o123bob2o$92b2o170b2o4b
2o$165b2o5b2o90b2o4b2o$27b2o5b2o110b3o16b2o5b2o$27b2o5b2o46b3o3b3o54bo
3bo88b2o$81bo3bobo3bo53bo3bo87b2o50bobo$31b2o48bo3bobo3bo22b2o30b3o90b
o44b3o7b2o5b2o$31b2o47bob4ob4obo20bobo168bo2b2o4bobo5b2o$80b2o9b2o22bo
68b2o3b2o93b2ob4o$123b3o57b2obobob2o77b2o15b3o8b2o$125bo56b3obobob3o
15b2o59bobo25b2o$54b2o28b2ob2o35bo56bo3b2ob2o3bo13bobo61bo$43b2o3bo5b
2o27bobobobo91bo11bo15bo12b2o47b2o$42bob2obo3bo32bo3bo37b2o42bo11bo9bo
28bo2bo$41b2o4bobo2bo5b2o66b2o42bobo48bobo50b2o$42b2o2b3o2b2o5b2o110b
2o13b2ob2o29b2o2b2o49b2o$46b2o31b2o103bobobobo27bo2b2o$79bobo103bo3bo
28b2o3b2o45b2o5b2o$81bo141bo46b2o5b2o$75b2o3bob2o37b2o52bo48bo$35bo3bo
36bo3bo3bo34bo2bo50bobo45b3o$34bobobobo35bob2ob2obo5b2o26bo53bobo46bo
28bo$33bo2bobo2bo35bobobobo7b2o25bo52bo2bo74b2o38bo5bo$32b2ob2ob2ob2o
47bo27bo47bo5bobo74bobo36b3o3b3o$31bo3bo3bo3bo67b2o6bo2bo5b2o35bobo5bo
bo8b2o101bobobobobobo$30bo2bob2ob2obo2bo48b2o8bo6bobo8b2o5bobo33bo3bo
6bo8bobo99b2obobobobob2o$33bo7bo50bobo8b2o5bo19bo34b3o18bo45bo53bob4ob
4obo$35b2ob2o54bo7bobo4b2o19b2o13b2o10b2o4b2o3b2o16b2o43b3o4b2o46b5o3b
5o$30bo5bobo5bo91b2o7bobob2o6bo72bo2b2o3b2o$31b2ob2o3b2ob2o55b2o35b2o
9bob2o7b3o$5bob2o89bobo45b2o12bo129b2ob2o$5b2obo39b2o47b2o2bo41bo5b2o
138bobobobo$47bobo48bob3o39bobo5bo84bo54bo3bo$46b3o4b2o3bo40b3obo37bo
3bo4bobo99b2o$45b3o4bo2b3obo40bobo39b3o6b2o23b2o15b2o32b2o23bo$46b3o4b
2ob2obo80b2o3b2o30bo15bo3bo29b2o12b2o7bobo$39b2o6bobo8bo9b2o63b2o33b2o
7bobo11bobo2bobo29bo3b2o7b3o6b2o33b3o3b3o$2o5b2o29bobo7b2o18b2o34bo27b
obo33bo9b2o11b2o3bobo17b2o25b2obo11bo25bo3bobo3bo$2o5b2o29bo63b2obo26b
o30b2o4b3o13bo9b2ob3o15b2o11bo2b2o9bo2bo9bobo25bo3bobo3bo$37b2o16b2o3b
2o32b2o3b2o5bo2b2o20b2o30bo7bo12bobo14bo41b2obo7b2o27bob4ob4obo$4b2o
49bobobobo32b3o2bo9b2o44bo5bobo20bobo8b2ob3o40b3o10b2o27b2o9b2o$4b2o
50b5o36b5o53bobo3b2o22bo9b2obo14b2o20bo5b2o11b2o$57b3o38b2o4bo51bobo
54b2o19bobo13b2o4bobo8b2o$58bo40b5o52bo2bo76bo12bobo6bo8bobo17b2ob2o$
101b2o53bobo37b2o2b2o14b2o17bo13bo19bo16bobobobo$27b2o71b2o26b2o25bobo
38bobo2bo14b2o30b2o19b2o16bo3bo$16b2o3b2o4b2o71b2o26b2o25bo42bobo$15bo
bo3b4o75b2o80b2o13b2ob2o31b2o3b2o$15bo3bo2bo2bo5b2o22b2o105bo3bo16bo
14bo34b2o3b2o$15b2o3bo4bo5b2o19bo3bo104bobobobo12b3o13bobo35b5o$20bo3b
o27b4o3b2o99bo2bobo2bo11bo15b2o37bobo29b2o5bo$19bo40bo98b2ob2ob2ob2o
97b2o4b3o$7bo5bo40bobobo51b2o46bo3bo3bo3bo45b3o16b3o35bo2b2o$7bo5bo34b
2o3bob2ob2o24b2o14bo9bobo5b2o37bo2bob2ob2obo2bo41b3obo9b2o47b2o$5b4o3b
4o33bo3bo3bo25bo2bo12b3o10bo5bo41bo7bo45b2ob2o7bo2bo43b2obo$4b2o9b2o
32bob2ob2obo26bobo11b2o2bo9b2o5b3o40b2ob2o47b2ob2o10b2o42b4o$3b3o2b2ob
2o2b3o32bobobobo26b2o2b2o9b2ob3o17bo35bo5bobo5bo44bo6bo5b3o6b2o35b2obo
$3b2o3b2ob2o3b2o12b2o53b2o2bo8b5o55b2ob2o3b2ob2o51bobo3bo2bo6bo33bob4o
$4b3obo3bob3o12b4o50b2o3b2o11bo121b2o3b3o8b3o30bobo19b2o$5b2o7b2o12b2o
b3o50bo15b2obo137bo31bo20b2o$6b3o3b3o14b2o3bob2o45bo139b2o3b3o$8b2ob2o
16b2o4b3o46b3o15b2o3b2o89b2o5b2o15bobo3bo2bo50bo8b2o5b2o$7bobobobo16b
2o2b2o50bo20b2o33b2o5b2o11bo35bo6b2o16bo5b3o51b2o6b2o5b2o$8bo3bo17b3o
6b2o101b2o5b2o9b3o36bo29b2o51b2o$32bo3bo3b2o118bobo35b2o8b2o16bo2bo$
21b2o13b2ob2o53b2o12b2o36b2o12bo47b2o17b2o$20bobo13b4o14b2o39bo6b2o4bo
3bo33b2o$19bo6b3o24bobo36b3o7b2o5b4o$19bo2bo2bo29bo12b2o22bo112b2o84bo
b2o$19bo6b2o40b2o41b2o92b2o84b2obo$12b2o6bobo18b2o68b2o56b2o$11bobo7b
2o18b2o126b2o$11bo$10b2o16b2obob2o56b2o15b2o56b2o5b2o$28bo5bo55bo2bo
14b2o8b2o46b2o5b2o$29bo3bo59b2o23bo$30b3o31bo22bo5b3o15b2o6bo$64b4o18b
obo3bo2bo15b2o5b2o$65b4o18b2o3b3o$65bo2bo$65b4o18b2o3b3o76b2o$56b2o6b
4o18bobo3bo2bo19b3o4bob2o45b2o$14bo3bo9b2o25bobo6bo22bo5b3o21bo4b2obo$
13bobobobo9bo25bo24bo12b2o21bo47b2o$14b2ob2o7b3o25b2o23b2o9bo2bo71bo5b
3o$26bo52bobo9b2o71bo6bo2bo$70b3o27b3o60bo9b2o$10b2o9b2o46b2ob2o26bo2b
o59b2o$10bob4ob4obo46b2ob2o25bo3bo13b2o5b2o68b2obo$11bo3bobo3bo47b5o
26bo2b2o12b2o5b2o9b2o57b2o3bo$11bo3bobo3bo46b2o3b2o27bo32bobo32b2obo
21bo3bo$12b3o3b3o79b2o19b2o12bo4b2o28bo2bo26bo$99b3o19b2o17bobo28b3o
22b2o2bo$81bo17b3o38bob2o52b2o$81b2o56bob2o51b3o2b3o$77b2o3b2o19bo35b
3o53bo$82b3o19bo39b2o48bobo$68b2o12b2o19b2o39b2o40bo8bo$69bo4b2o5b2o8b
2o91bobo$66b3o4bobo5bo9bobo47b2o5b2o35b2o$66bo6bo19bo6b2o39b2o5b2o51bo
bo$72b2o19b2o5b2o98bo2bo$199b2o$5b8o178bo5b2o3bo$5bob4obo169b2o6bobo6b
2o$5b8o48b4o80bo36b2o5bo3bo6bo2bo6b2o$61bo3bo79b4o41b3o8bobo4bo2bo$61b
o77b2o5b4o29b2o7b2o3b2o13b3o$62bo2bo72bo2bo4bo2bo29b2o$18bo119bo2bo4b
4o57bob2o$18bobo120bo3b4o4b2o50b3ob2o$17bobo121bo3bo7bobo26b2o20bo$19b
o104b2obo4b3o4bobo13bo26b2o20b2o$126bob3o8bobo13b2o$128b2o10bo$127b2ob
2o$126bobobo62b2o$127b2ob2o5b2o3b2o49bo$131bo5bo5bo50b3o$196bo$138bo3b
o$139b3o6b2o$147bobo$147bo$146b2o$143b2o$144bob2o$142bobob2o$142b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 23rd, 2020, 10:23 pm

Is there any way to reduce the cell count of this? I suspect that only one catalyst is required in the middle.

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x = 66, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
29b2o$30bo$30bobo7bobo$31b2o7bo3bo$24bo19bo7bo$22bobo15bo4bo4b4o$12b2o6b2o22bo4bobob2o9b2o$11bo3bo4b2o10b2o6bo3bo3bo2bob3o8b2o$2o8bo5bo3b2o9bo2bo5bobo6bobob2o$2o8bo3bob2o4bobo6bobo16b4o$10bo5bo7bo7bo19bo$11bo3bo25bo$12b2o17b2o8bobo$23bo7b2o8b2o$24b2o$23b2o!


Edit: This puts the tub back—but in the wrong place.

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x = 66, y = 15, rule = B3/S23
42bo$42bobo$22bo20bobo7bo$21bobo19bo2bo6b2o$11b2o7bob2o19bobo2b2o4b2o8b2o$10bobo6b2ob2o18bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$2o7bo6b3obob2o18bo5b2o4b2o$2o7bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo29b2o$9bo6b2o4bo10bo19bo$10bobo19bobo6bo$11b2o20bo6bo$40b3o$23bobo$24b2o$24bo!


Another edit: This comes frustrating close to working with no catalysts in the middle.

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x = 63, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
22bo$21bobo$11b2o6b2o3bo$10bobo4b2obo3bo13bo$2o7b3o4b3obo3bo13bobo$2o6b3o4bo2b2obobo17b2o6b2o$9b3o4b2o4bo18b2o4bo3bo$10bobo28b2o3bo5bo8b2o$11b2o25bobo4b2obo3bo8b2o$38bo7bo5bo$47bo3bo$49b2o!


Yet another edit:

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x = 65, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
23bo$21bobo$12bo7bobo$11b2o6bo2bo16bo$2o8b2o4b2o2bobo16b4o$2o7b3o4b2o3bobo16b4o7bo$10b2o4b2o5bo16bo2bo6bobo$11b2o27b4o4b2o3bo9b2o$12bo17b2o7b4o5b2o3bo9b2o$29bobo7bo8b2o3bo$29bo20bobo$28b2o21bo!
Yes! The catalyst worked! Wait; that glider on the left is getting close… Oh, come on!



Fourth edit:

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x = 64, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
35b2o$35bo$26b2o5bobo$25bo3bo3b2o$9b2o13bo5bo$9b2o13bo3bob2o4bo$2o3bo6b2o10bo5bo4bobo$obo3bo5b3o10bo3bo4bob2o15b2o$b5o6b2o12b2o5b2ob2o14bobo$2b3o4b2o9bobo11bob2o13bo6b2o2b2o$9b2o10b2o12bobo13bo2bo2bo2bob2o$21bo14bo5bo8bo6b2o$42bobo7bobo$42b2o9b2o!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by goldenratio » October 23rd, 2020, 10:47 pm

In terms of population, this is probably going to be pretty hard to beat:

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x = 36, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$24b3o$12bo8bob2o9b2o$12bobo6bo2bo9b2o$13bobo5bob2o$2o11bo2bo7b3o
$2o11bobo9b2o$12bobo$12bo3$15bo$15b2o$16b2o$18bo$14b4obo$13bo4bobo$9b
2o2bob2obob2o$10b2obob2obo2b2o$11bobo4bo$12bob4o$13bo$14b2o$15b2o$16b
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 23rd, 2020, 11:08 pm

goldenratio wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 10:47 pm
In terms of population, this is probably going to be pretty hard to beat:

Code: Select all

x = 36, y = 25, rule = B3/S23
25b2o$24b3o$12bo8bob2o9b2o$12bobo6bo2bo9b2o$13bobo5bob2o$2o11bo2bo7b3o
$2o11bobo9b2o$12bobo$12bo3$15bo$15b2o$16b2o$18bo$14b4obo$13bo4bobo$9b
2o2bob2obob2o$10b2obob2obo2b2o$11bobo4bo$12bob4o$13bo$14b2o$15b2o$16b
o!

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x = 64, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
40bo$40bobo$33bo7bobo7bo$25b2o6bo7bo2bo6b2o$24bobo14bobo2b2o4b2o$9bobo
11bo16bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$4bo4bo2bo10bo2bo13bo5b2o4b2o8b2o$5b2o5b2o9bo27b
2o$2o8bo3b2o8bobo24bo$2o10b2o11b2o$9bo2bo$9bobo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 23rd, 2020, 11:09 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 11:08 pm

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
40bo$40bobo$33bo7bobo7bo$25b2o6bo7bo2bo6b2o$24bobo14bobo2b2o4b2o$9bobo
11bo16bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$4bo4bo2bo10bo2bo13bo5b2o4b2o8b2o$5b2o5b2o9bo27b
2o$2o8bo3b2o8bobo24bo$2o10b2o11b2o$9bo2bo$9bobo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 23rd, 2020, 11:15 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 11:09 pm
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 11:08 pm

Code: Select all

x = 64, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
40bo$40bobo$33bo7bobo7bo$25b2o6bo7bo2bo6b2o$24bobo14bobo2b2o4b2o$9bobo
11bo16bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$4bo4bo2bo10bo2bo13bo5b2o4b2o8b2o$5b2o5b2o9bo27b
2o$2o8bo3b2o8bobo24bo$2o10b2o11b2o$9bo2bo$9bobo!
Thank you. Now the LifeWiki page for the Gosper glider gun should be updated. (It currently states that twogun is the smallest known p60 gun.)
Actually guns are measured by bounding box, to give a sense of where you can slip one in, and because their population is unbounded anyways, and therefore twogun and the p12 filterer are both smaller.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 23rd, 2020, 11:17 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 23rd, 2020, 11:15 pm
Actually guns are measured by bounding box, to give a sense of where you can slip one in, and because their population is unbounded anyways, and therefore twogun and the p12 filterer are both smaller.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by Entity Valkyrie 2 » October 24th, 2020, 10:03 pm

In terms of bounding box, this p60 gun is the smallest:

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x = 35, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$23bo3bo$7bo19bo$5b4o14bo4bo$4bobob2o17bo$3bo2bob3o8bo3bo3bo3b2o
$4bobob2o10bo2bobo5bobo$2o2b5o10bo13bo$o2bo3bo25b2o$b3o2$b3o10bo$2bo
11b2o$o3bo10b2o8bobo$5o12bo8b2o$13b4obo7bo$2bo9bo4bobo$bobo4b2o2bob2ob
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 24th, 2020, 10:25 pm

Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
October 24th, 2020, 10:03 pm
In terms of bounding box, this p60 gun is the smallest:

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x = 35, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$23bo3bo$7bo19bo$5b4o14bo4bo$4bobob2o17bo$3bo2bob3o8bo3bo3bo3b2o
$4bobob2o10bo2bobo5bobo$2o2b5o10bo13bo$o2bo3bo25b2o$b3o2$b3o10bo$2bo
11b2o$o3bo10b2o8bobo$5o12bo8b2o$13b4obo7bo$2bo9bo4bobo$bobo4b2o2bob2ob
ob2o$2bo6b2obob2obo2b2o$10bobo4bo$11bob4o$12bo$13b2o$14b2o$15bo!
Does the smallest p90 gun use a period-tripling mechanism? I tried using a kickback reaction, but that created an octomino that didn't settle quickly after more gliders hit it.
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by bubblegum » October 24th, 2020, 10:38 pm

MathAndCode wrote:
October 24th, 2020, 10:25 pm
Entity Valkyrie 2 wrote:
October 24th, 2020, 10:03 pm
In terms of bounding box, this p60 gun is the smallest:

Code: Select all

x = 35, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
23bobo$23bo3bo$7bo19bo$5b4o14bo4bo$4bobob2o17bo$3bo2bob3o8bo3bo3bo3b2o
$4bobob2o10bo2bobo5bobo$2o2b5o10bo13bo$o2bo3bo25b2o$b3o2$b3o10bo$2bo
11b2o$o3bo10b2o8bobo$5o12bo8b2o$13b4obo7bo$2bo9bo4bobo$bobo4b2o2bob2ob
ob2o$2bo6b2obob2obo2b2o$10bobo4bo$11bob4o$12bo$13b2o$14b2o$15bo!
Does the smallest p90 gun use a period-tripling mechanism? I tried using a kickback reaction, but that created an octomino that didn't settle quickly after more gliders hit it.
Yes, it does, for lack of better guns at other divisors of 90 (which would be difficult):

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b4o$9bo16b4o$8bobo5b2o8bo2bo5b2o$6b2o3bo14b4o5b2o$b2o3b2o3bo4bo
bob2o3b4o$b2o3b2o3bo5b2o3bo2bo$8bobo10bo$9bo8bo2bo3$16bo$16b4o$6b2o9b
4o$6b2o9bo2bo$11bo5b4o$11bo4b4o$16bo3$36bo$9b2o9b3o11bobo$bo7bo2bo9bo
12b2o$o3b2o7bo7bo5bo$o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo11b2obobo$9bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o
$9b2o14b2obobo3b2o$26b4o$27bo!
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Re: Gun Discussion Thread

Post by MathAndCode » October 24th, 2020, 11:06 pm

bubblegum wrote:
October 24th, 2020, 10:38 pm
Yes, it does, for lack of better guns at other divisors of 90 (which would be difficult):

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x = 37, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
25bo$25b4o$9bo16b4o$8bobo5b2o8bo2bo5b2o$6b2o3bo14b4o5b2o$b2o3b2o3bo4bo
bob2o3b4o$b2o3b2o3bo5b2o3bo2bo$8bobo10bo$9bo8bo2bo3$16bo$16b4o$6b2o9b
4o$6b2o9bo2bo$11bo5b4o$11bo4b4o$16bo3$36bo$9b2o9b3o11bobo$bo7bo2bo9bo
12b2o$o3b2o7bo7bo5bo$o5bo6bo12b4o$b5o7bo11b2obobo$9bo2bo11b3obo2bo2b2o
$9b2o14b2obobo3b2o$26b4o$27bo!
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