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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby MikeP » August 1st, 2013, 5:15 am

Without max-live and/or max-active I think that search will take a very long time to run.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Freywa » August 1st, 2013, 6:53 am

That's why I'm allowing any kind of modification to the input file.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby calcyman » August 3rd, 2013, 2:39 pm

If a fast stable G-to-H or glider duplicator is desired, then it might be possible to use a bait to coax a Herschel from one of the outlying sparks of this clean glider eater:

x = 33, y = 37, rule = B3/S23
4b2obo$4bob2o2$5b5o$2o2bo4bo$o2bo2bo$bobob2o$2obo5bo$3bo4bobo$3b2o2bo
2bo$8b2o9$16b2o$16b2o8$6b2o22b2o$7bo21bo2bo$4b3o23b2o$4bo$8b2o$8b2o$
27b3o$27bo$28bo!


I think that Guam's search program is most amenable to this task.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Extrementhusiast » August 6th, 2013, 9:32 pm

About the p41 wick: perhaps we could use otherwise-impractically-long-delay eaters to do the job, like with this:
x = 18, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
11b2o$4bo5bobo$5bo4bo$3b3o2b3o$7bo3b2o$7b4o2bo$11b3o$7b4o$7bo3b5o$2b2o
bobob2o4bo$2bob2obobo2bo$6bo4b2o$6bob3o$7bo2bo$8b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby unname66609 » December 25th, 2014, 5:44 am

velcrorex wrote:Part of a c/7 ship
x = 40, y = 17
11bo$10bobbo12bo$5b3obbo14bobo11bo$10bo10boobb3oboo3bo4bo$boo11boboobb
o7b4o3b4o$obbo6bobob8o4boobobobobo$boobboo3bo28bo$5boo4b12obbo8boobo$$
5boo4b12obbo8boobo$boobboo3bo28bo$obbo6bobob8o4boobobobobo$boo11boboo
bbo7b4o3b4o$10bo10boobb3oboo3bo4bo$5b3obbo14bobo11bo$10bobbo12bo$11bo!

XXS loafer:
x = 9, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
7b2o$6bo$5bo$6b3o$8bo$2bo$bobo$o2bo2b2o$b2o2bob2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » December 25th, 2014, 6:40 am

On the first page of this thread, Jason Summers wrote:Can anyone find a custom p6 sparker to complete this p42 oscillator?

x = 44, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
9boo22boo$5boobbobo5boo6boo5bobobboo$4bobbobobo5boo6boo5bobobobbo$4bob
obboboo18boobobbobo$3booboobo8bo13bobb3oboo$6bobbooboo3bobo12boobobbo
bbo$3boboobboo5bo3bo10bo5bobboo$oboobobo6bobo3bo10b4obo5bo$3o4bo3bobbo
bo3bo11b4obobbo$bbobb3o3bo5bobo5bo4boo3boobobboo$boobboboo3boo4bo5bobo
5bo3b3obbo$3bobbob4o11bo3bobobbo3bo4b3o$bo5bob4o10bo3bobo6boboboobo$bb
oobbo5bo10bo3bo5boobboobo$bbobbobboboo12bobo3booboobbo$3boob3obbo13bo
8bobooboo$4bobobboboo18boobobbobo$4bobbobobo5boo6boo5bobobobbo$5boobbo
bo5boo6boo5bobobboo$9boo22boo!

At least it's finished... hehe
I'm pretty sure you found another p6 during the last, um, 4 years!
Actually, at first I didn't know that this was an incomplete search pattern, and posted it in the Unsure discoveries thread. Coincidentally, this thread came on top about an hour later. Otherwise I wouldn't have known. What are the chances of that!
N.B. This was my first successful output on the search, so there's a big possibility of optimization.
x = 46, y = 38, rule = B3/S23
bo42bo$obo40bobo$b2o10b2obo5b2o5bob2o10b2o$3b2o5bo2bob2o2bo2b2o2bo2b2o
bo2bo5b2o$b2o2bo3bobobo3b3o6b3o3bobobo3bo2b2o$o3bo3bobobob2o4b6o4b2obo
bobo3bo3bo$b3ob4o3bobob4o6b4obo3bob4ob3o$3bo5b2o3bo5b5obo2bobob3o4bobo
$4bobob3o3bo2bo6bob2o5b4ob2obo$6bo3bobo2b3o5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$18bo4bo6b2o
$20b2o2$19b3o$18bo3bo$14b2obo5bo6b2o$14b2o2bo3bo7b2o$19b3o3$24b3o$14b
2o7bo3bo2b2o$14b2o6bo5bob2o$23bo3bo$24b3o2$24b2o$14b2o6bo4bo$7bobo5bo
2b2o2bo5b3o2bobo3bo$4bob2ob4o5b2obo6bo2bo3b3obobo$3bobo4b3obobo2bob5o
5bo3b2o5bo$b3ob4obo3bob4o6b4obobo3b4ob3o$o3bo3bobobob2o4b6o4b2obobobo
3bo3bo$b2o2bo3bobobo3b3o6b3o3bobobo3bo2b2o$3b2o5bo2bob2o2bo2b2o2bo2b2o
bo2bo5b2o$b2o10b2obo5b2o5bob2o10b2o$obo40bobo$bo42bo!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Sokwe » December 25th, 2014, 9:51 pm

Scorbie wrote:I'm pretty sure [Jason] found another p6 during the last, um, 4 years!

If Jason had found a working p6 sparker, I'm sure he would have posted it. Congratulations on the discovery! Here is a stator reduction (the top p6 minimizes bounding box and the bottom minimizes population):
x = 46, y = 35, rule = B3/S23
6bo6b2obo2b2o8bob2o6bo$5bobo5bob2o3bo5bo2b2obo5bobo$4bobobob2obo3b3o3b
o2b3o3bob2obobobo$4bo3bobobob2o4b6o4b2obobobo3bo$ob2ob4o3bobob4o6b4obo
3bob4ob2obo$2obo5b2o3bo5b5obo2bobob3o4bobob2o$4bobob3o3bo2bo6bob2o5b4o
b2obo$6bo3bobo2b3o5bo2b2o2bo5bobo$18bo4bo6b2o$20b2o2$19b3o$18bo3bo$14b
2obo5bo6b2o$14b2o2bo3bo7b2o$19b3o3$24b3o$14b2o7bo3bo2b2o$14b2o6bo5bob
2o$23bo3bo$24b3o2$24b2o$14b2o6bo4bo$7bobo5bo2b2o2bo5b3o2bobo3bo$4bob2o
b4o5b2obo6bo2bo3b3obobo$2obobo4b3obobo2bob5o5bo3b2o5bob2o$ob2ob4obo3bo
b4o6b4obobo3b4ob2obo$4bo3bobobob2o4b3ob2o4b2obobobo3bo$4bobobob2obo3b
3o2b2obob2o3bob2obobobo$5bobo5bob2o2bo5bobo4bo5bobo$6bo6b2obo8bobo3b2o
6bo$26bo!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby biggiemac » December 28th, 2014, 5:51 am

dvgrn wrote:- More investigation of possible (23,5)c/79 spaceship

Now an explicitly constructed velocity :D This is what grabbed my interest in the more detailed engineering side of Life in the first place, and it's fun to actually contribute!

The task here has now gone from investigation to optimization.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » December 29th, 2014, 5:35 am

I think a p7 with these sparks(upper left and lower right) could stabilize the p28 wick.
x = 47, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
13b2o9b2o12bo3bo$4b2o18b2o9bobobobobobo$3bo2bo5bo21bo2bobobobo2bo$3bob
3o4b2o21bo3bobo3bo$2b2o3bo10b2o4b2o9bo3bobo3bo$2bo2b4o3b2o3bo2bo2bo2bo
4bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$3b2o3bo3bo4bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o4b2o5b2o$6bob2o8b2o4b2o$b4o
25b2o$obo28bo4b2o5b2o$o3bobo11b2o16b2o5b2o$b5o12b2o9bobo2$3b3o2b2o$2bo
2b2o2bo$2b2ob4o2$2b2ob4o$2bo2b2o2bo$3b3o2b2o2$b5o$o3bobo$obo$b4o$6bob
2o$3b2o3bo$2bo2b4o$2b2o3bo$3bob3o$3bo2bo$4b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Extrementhusiast » December 29th, 2014, 3:49 pm

Scorbie wrote:I think a p7 with these sparks(upper left and lower right) could stabilize the p28 wick.
x = 47, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
13b2o9b2o12bo3bo$4b2o18b2o9bobobobobobo$3bo2bo5bo21bo2bobobobo2bo$3bob
3o4b2o21bo3bobo3bo$2b2o3bo10b2o4b2o9bo3bobo3bo$2bo2b4o3b2o3bo2bo2bo2bo
4bo3bo2bo3bo2bo$3b2o3bo3bo4bo2bo2bo2bo3b2o4b2o5b2o$6bob2o8b2o4b2o$b4o
25b2o$obo28bo4b2o5b2o$o3bobo11b2o16b2o5b2o$b5o12b2o9bobo2$3b3o2b2o$2bo
2b2o2bo$2b2ob4o2$2b2ob4o$2bo2b2o2bo$3b3o2b2o2$b5o$o3bobo$obo$b4o$6bob
2o$3b2o3bo$2bo2b4o$2b2o3bo$3bob3o$3bo2bo$4b2o!

This p14 comes very close:
x = 46, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
$11b2o20b2o$10bo2bo18bo2bo$7bo3bobo18bobo3bo$5b6obo20bob6o$4bo5bo24bo
5bo$4bobo2bo2bo20bo2bo2bobo$5bobob4o20b4obobo$7bobo26bobo$6b2o3b2o20b
2o3b2o$5bo2b2obo22bob2o2bo$3bo2bobobo2bo18bo2bobobo2bo$3b2obo3bob2o18b
2obo3bob2o$4bobob2obo10b2o10bob2obobo$4bob2o3bo8bo4bo8bo3b2obo$5bo3bob
2o6bo6bo6b2obo3bo$6b5o2bo4bo8bo4bo2b5o$10bob3o3bo8bo3b3obo$6b4o3bo4bo
8bo4bo3b4o$6bo2bob2o6bo6bo6b2obo2bo$11bo8bo4bo8bo$9bobo10b2o10bobo$9b
2o24b2o!

The left side can be welded to the left oscillator; the right side gets in the way of the block.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Kazyan » January 8th, 2015, 1:08 am

#C Some assembly required
x = 80, y = 55, rule = B3/S23
28b2o44b4o$28bo43b2o4b2o$26bobo43bo5b2o$17b2o7b2o44bobob2o$2o15bobo52b
o$2o15bob2o51bo3bo$18b2o51bo4bo$18bo49bo3b3o$68bo4b2o$18bo48b2o$18b2o
46bo$2o15bob2o13bo3bo25b3o$2o15bobo13bo5bo9b2o$17b2o14bo15b2o$33b2o3bo
24bo$35b3o20b5obo$58bo5b2o$35b3o19bo2bo3b2o$33b2o3bo18bo$33bo15b2o6bo
2bob2o$33bo5bo9b2o6bo2bo$34bo3bo19b2o$58b2o7$39b2o$39bobo7b2o23b4o$41b
o7b2o21b2o4b2o$39b3o30bo5b2o$24bobo45bobob2o$23b3o46bo$23b3o46bo3bo$
23bo15b3o29bo4bo$27bobo11bo26bo3b3o$23b2o4bo9bobo26bo4b2o$18b2o4bo3b2o
9b2o26b2o$17bobo6bo39bo$17bo46b3o$16b2o$41b2o$41bobob2obo14bo$43bobob
2o9b5obo$43b2o13bo5b2o$57bo2bo3b2o$34bo5bo16bo$35bo5bo15bo2bob2o$33b3o
3b3o15bo2bo$45bo12b2o$44bobo11b2o$44bobo$45bo!


I think the two copies of 58P5H1V1 can be arranged southeast so that the glider stream is cleanly converted into the retracting beehive mechanism, somehow. If so, the pattern becomes a sawtooth of minimum population 254, which would be a new record--although since the gun and ships are out-of-sync, and the retracting mechanism is so slow, the expansion factor would be humongous.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » January 8th, 2015, 4:07 am

Kazyan wrote:I think the two copies of 58P5H1V1 can be arranged southeast so that the glider stream is cleanly converted into the retracting beehive mechanism, somehow. If so, the pattern becomes a sawtooth of minimum population 254, which would be a new record
that sounds like a good idea! have you tried with one spaceship?
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Kazyan » January 8th, 2015, 4:51 am

Scorbie wrote:that sounds like a good idea! have you tried with one spaceship?


Yes, and there doesn't seem to be a way to do it with one, but this gets close:

x = 106, y = 114, rule = LifeHistory
28.2A$28.A$17.2A7.A.A$16.5A5.2A$2A14.A4.A$2A14.3A2.A$17.A2.2A$18.2A2$
18.2A$17.A2.2A$2A14.3A2.A11.A$2A14.A4.A10.2A15.2A$16.5A10.2A16.2A$17.
2A13.2A2.2A4$32.2A2.2A$31.2A16.2A$32.2A15.2A$33.A8$38.4A$38.A2.2A6.2A
$39.A2.2A5.2A$39.A2.A$24.A15.2A$24.A$22.A17.2A$22.2A15.A2.A$21.2A16.A
2.2A$22.2A4.A.A7.A2.2A$18.2A3.2A4.2A7.4A$17.A.A4.A4.A$17.A$16.2A$41.
2A$41.A.A.2A.A$43.A.A.2A$43.2A3$34.A5.A$35.2A4.2A$34.2A4.2A10$45.A.A
3.A.A$46.2A4.2A$46.A5.A9$57.A5.A$58.2A4.2A$57.2A4.2A10$68.A.A3.A.A23.
2A$69.2A4.2A21.6A$69.A5.A21.5A2.A$96.2A6.A$96.2A4.2A$96.2A2.3A$96.2A$
96.A3.A$86.A10.A.2A$84.A.A6.2A2.A.A$85.2A5.2A$91.A$90.2A$90.A2$84.5A$
83.5A.2A$82.2A$82.2A5.2A$81.3A2.A.2A$81.3A2.A$82.A2.2A$82.A2.A$83.2A$
94.D5.D$95.D5.D$93.3D3.3D2.D$103.D.D$103.D.D$104.D!


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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby velcrorex » January 19th, 2015, 6:17 pm

Is there any hope of stabilizing this p23 wick?
x = 77, y = 103, rule = B3/S23
6$19b2o$19b2o$14bobo$13b4o$13bobo$9b2o$9b2o$23b2o$23b2o$18bobo$17b4o$
17bobo$13b2o$13b2o$27b2o$27b2o$22bobo$21b4o$21bobo$17b2o$17b2o$31b2o$
31b2o$26bobo$25b4o$25bobo$21b2o$21b2o$35b2o$35b2o$30bobo$29b4o$29bobo$
25b2o$25b2o$39b2o$39b2o$34bobo$33b4o$33bobo$29b2o$29b2o$43b2o$43b2o$
38bobo$37b4o$37bobo$33b2o$33b2o$47b2o$47b2o$42bobo$41b4o$41bobo$37b2o$
37b2o$51b2o$51b2o$46bobo$45b4o$45bobo$41b2o$41b2o$55b2o$55b2o$50bobo$
49b4o$49bobo$45b2o$45b2o$59b2o$59b2o$54bobo$53b4o$53bobo$49b2o$49b2o$
63b2o$63b2o$58bobo$57b4o$57bobo$53b2o$53b2o$67b2o$67b2o$62bobo$61b4o$
61bobo$57b2o$57b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Freywa » January 19th, 2015, 7:24 pm

velcrorex wrote:Is there any hope of stabilizing this p23 wick?

Without a doubt, no hope. There are two moments of interaction between neighbouring units and a hypothetical Bellman still life stabilisation would have to chomp on them so quickly in succession it would certainly implode. I have indeed ran a Bellman search for the catalyst without any success.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Sphenocorona » January 19th, 2015, 11:11 pm

It might still be possible, but it would probably be just as effective to find a end stabilization which depends on the wick for support.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby codeholic » January 20th, 2015, 3:44 am

velcrorex wrote:Is there any hope of stabilizing this p23 wick?

I doubt that Bellman can find direct stabilization for this wick in reasonable time, but there would be a chance to find a stabilization using Bellman if there existed a stabilization with an expendable spartan still-life, that produced a workable spark. (I haven't tried it myself.)

P. S. A blinker would also suffice, if it happens to be restored in the right phase.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » January 20th, 2015, 8:04 pm

Although this won't break any records, this p194 seems pretty stabilizable.
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Kazyan » January 20th, 2015, 10:01 pm

Partial for an asymmetric c/5 diagonal ship. I was trying to JLS up a new sparker to complete the sawtooth, but it turns out to be, uh, tricky. And the population is too high. Still worth completing, though.

x = 23, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
18b2o$16b2obo$16b2ob2o$16b2ob2o$17bo$18bo3bo$20bo$20bobo$19bo$19bob2o$
21bo$16b3o$16b3o$16b3o2$19b2o$14bo3bo$2bo4bo5b2o3bo$2ob2obobo3b2obo2bo
$o2bobo3bo2b2o2b3o$obo6b2o2b3obo$5bo2b2obo$2b2o4bo4b2o$2b3obobob2o2b3o
$6bobo6b2o2b2o$10bo7bo$6b2ob2o8b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby unname66609 » January 21st, 2015, 3:50 am

Sphenocorona wrote:If you place an object like a tub slightly behind and directly inbetween the two blocks in Kashua's design, it becomes possible to turn the blocks into more permanent eater 1's or eater 2's, like so:
x = 123, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo$116b3o$115bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o$6bo31bo31bo31bo$6bo31bo31bo31b
o18b2o$121bo$119bobo$119b2o2$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo$2ob2o3b2ob2o
19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo14bo$120bobo$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo14bo$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b
2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo2$119b
2o$119bobo$121bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo18b2o$6bo31bo31bo31bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo
12b2o$115bo$116b3o$118bo!

Alternately, replacing the blocks with hives results in a similar effect to using blocks, except that there is also some leftover reaction that may be able to be manipulated back into hives again:
x = 128, y = 27, rule = B3/S23
118bo$116b3o$115bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b2o$6bo31bo31bo31bo$6bo31bo31bo31b
o2$120b2o$119bo2bo$120b2o$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo19b2o$2ob2o3b2ob
2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o17b2o$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo
7bo23bo7bo2$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo$2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o19b
2ob2o3b2ob2o19b2ob2o3b2ob2o17b2o$2bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo23bo7bo19b2o$120b
2o$119bo2bo$120b2o2$6bo31bo31bo31bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo$6bo31bo31bo31bo12b
2o$115bo$116b3o$118bo!

Here I added two blocks which quickly turn the reaction into gliders; without them it produces two blinkers. Maybe a Bellman search might find a catalyst to restore the hives?

Help?
x = 143, y = 27, rule = extendedlife
7.A127.A$7.3A123.3A$10.A121.A$9.2A12.A31.A31.A31.A12.2A$23.A31.A31.A
31.A$3.2A18.A31.A31.A31.A18.2A$4.A133.A$4.A.A129.A.A$5.2A129.2A2$19.A
7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A$17.2A.2A3.2A.2A19.2A.2A3.2A.2A19.2A.2A3.2A.
2A19.2A.2A3.2A.2A$.F.2A14.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A14.2A.F$E2F2.A131.
A2.2FE$.F.2A14.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A14.2A.F$17.2A.2A3.2A.2A19.2A.
2A3.2A.2A19.2A.2A3.2A.2A19.2A.2A3.2A.2A$19.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A23.A7.A
2$5.2A129.2A$4.A.A129.A.A$4.A133.A$3.2A18.A31.A31.A31.A18.2A$23.A31.A
31.A31.A$9.2A12.A31.A31.A31.A12.2A$10.A121.A$7.3A123.3A$7.A127.A!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby dvgrn » January 21st, 2015, 10:51 am

Scorbie wrote:Although this won't break any records, this p194 seems pretty stabilizable.

The blocks are merely decorative, so the minimum population of the minimum skewed-torus tile in Golly appears to be 1296:

x = 1465, y = 36, rule = B3/S23:T1465-13,36
21bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2b
o23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo$21bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o
229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo$23b2o23bo229b3o117b2o
26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b
3o$48b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo
346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o$277bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o
42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$157b3o117b2o26bobo
40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b
2o23bo$159bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo
346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o$156bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo
23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$36b3o117b2o
26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b
3o42b2o23bo$38bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2o
bo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o$35bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229b
o23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$35b2o26bobo
40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b
2o23bo229b3o$63b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23b
o2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o$14b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o
42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo$12b2obo
346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o
117b2o26bobo40bo2bo$12bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2b
o40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o$12b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o
42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o$
241bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o
117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$121b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23b
o2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo$123bo23b2o42b3o75b
3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o
117b3o$120bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo
229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o
23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo$2bo23b2o42b3o75b
3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o
117b3o$b2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o
117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bo$o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo
40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117bo$27b3o42b2o
23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o
229bo23b2o42b3o$97b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo
40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o$326bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o
117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo$
206b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo
23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo$208bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bo
bo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o$205bob2o23bo2bo40bobo
26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2o
bo$85b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229b
o23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo$87bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bo
bo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o$84bob2o23bo2bo40bobo
26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2o
bo$84b2o26bobo40bo2bo23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o
42b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o$34b3o75b3o42b2o23bo229b3o117b2o26bobo40bo2bo
23b2obo346bob2o23bo2bo40bobo26b2o117b3o229bo23b2o!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » January 21st, 2015, 11:37 am

thanks for the optimizations! I found the agar from (slightly modified) randomagar source and that outputs everything with non-skewed torus symmetry, so it's unoptimized a lot of times...
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Kazyan » January 25th, 2015, 10:29 pm

So close.

x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
8b2o$7bo2bo$6b2o$7bob2o4b3o$8bob3o2b3o$8b2ob3o$2bo6bo4bob2o$b3o4b2o8bo
$o3b2obobo2bo4bo$o2bob4o4bob2o$bob2o10bo$4b2o9b2o$4b2o2bo$5bo3bo$6bo$
3b2o4b3o$3b2obo2bobo$3b2obobo$7bo!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby Scorbie » April 23rd, 2015, 9:48 pm

Possible candidate for yet another p17? Originally suggested by Jason Summers(I think) years before bellman.
x = 7, y = 19, rule = B3/S23
2b2o2$4bo$3bobo$obo3bo$2bo3bo$2bo3bo$3bobo$4bo2$4bo$3bobo$2bo3bo$2bo3b
o$obo3bo$3bobo$4bo2$2b2o!


Oops. It's already in Jason Sunmer's collection but trying to stabilize it certainly won't hurt!
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Re: Incomplete search patterns - try to complete

Postby codeholic » April 24th, 2015, 3:24 am

Nice. If it is stabilized it will almost certainly yield a p34 using known techniques for doubling the period because of large sparks it produces.
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