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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 23rd, 2017, 6:35 am

triller wrote:Intent is an idiot light, on/true/yes by a glider. I'll handle reset.

Mark Niemiec's recipes include at least one that only needs two input signals, and it's trivially adjustable to give as much clearance as you need.

That will probably be true of stable-circuitry solutions that synchronize three gliders, too, come to think of it. Anyway, do you want a 3G version so that the whole mechanism can be off to one side, or is this good enough?

x = 167, y = 189, rule = B3/S23
39b2o85b2o$39b2o5b2o71b2o5b2o$46b2o71b2o3$15b2o27b2o75b2o27b2o$15b2o
27b2o75b2o27b2o$50b2o63b2o$50b2o63b2o$9b2o145b2o$9b2o145b2o$13b2o137b
2o$13b2o137b2o4$8b2o147b2o$8b2o147b2o9$41b2o81b2o$41b2o81b2o$15b2o133b
2o$16bo133bo$13b3o135b3o$13bo139bo3$3b2o157b2o$4bo157bo$4bobo15b2o119b
2o15bobo$5b2o15b2o119b2o15b2o5$30b2o103b2o$30bobo101bobo$31bo9b2o81b2o
9bo$40bo2bo79bo2bo$41b2o81b2o$3b2o157b2o$2bo2bo2b2o147b2o2bo2bo$3b2o2b
obo13b2o117b2o13bobo2b2o$5b2o16bobo115bobo16b2o$5bo19bo115bo19bo$2b2ob
o2bo16b2o113b2o16bo2bob2o$2bob2obobo147bobob2obo$6bobo149bobo$3b2o2bo
151bo2b2o$b3ob2o153b2ob3o$o165bo$b3ob2o153b2ob3o$3bob2o153b2obo2$13b2o
137b2o$13b2o7b2o119b2o7b2o$22bo121bo$20bobo121bobo$20b2o123b2o4$2o163b
2o$2o163b2o5$16bo133bo$15bobo131bobo$15bobo131bobo$16bo133bo$17b3o127b
3o$19bo127bo30$82bo$81bobo$80bobo2bo$78b3o2b2obo$77bo3b2o3bo2b2o$78b3o
2b3o3b2o$80bobo$81bobo$82bo15$97bo$95b3o$94bo$94b2o3$72b2o19b2o$72b2o
19b2o6$75b2o$76bo$73b3o24b2o$73bo21b2o2bo2bo$95bobo2b2o$80b2o16b2o$81b
o17bo$78b3o15bo2bob2o$78bo16bobob2obo$96bobo$97bo2b2o$98b2ob3o$104bo$
98b2ob3o$98b2obo2$90b2o$81b2o7b2o$82bo$82bobo$83b2o4$103b2o$103b2o5$
88bo$87bobo$87bobo$88bo$85b3o$85bo5$69b2o$68bobo$70bo!
#C [[ STEP 10 ]]

Pulsars are common enough that there's almost bound to be a known direct tandem glider converter that can be combined with a 90-degree glider, or another glider pair, or an MWSS to produce a clean pulsar. A careful gencols search would probably turn something up. But for now I've run out of motivation after trying a few things like this with the Seeds of Destruction Game:

x = 136, y = 33, rule = B3/S23
130bo$129bobo$129bobo$130bo3b2o$134b2o2$b2o111b2o$b2o112bo$115bobo$22b
2o92b2o$22bo$20bobo$20b2o107b2o$129bobo$131bo$131b2o2$b2o$b2o$19b4o$
18bo$17bo4bo94b3o7b2o$18bob2o96bo8bobo$19bo98b3o8bo$129b2o$2b2o$bobo$b
o9b2obo12b2o$2o9b2ob3o10bo84b2o$17bo10b3o80bobo$11b2ob3o13bo80bo$10bo
2b2o95b2o$10b2o!
#C [[ AUTOFIT STEP 10 ]]
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby calcyman » September 23rd, 2017, 6:02 pm

dvgrn wrote:
triller wrote:Intent is an idiot light, on/true/yes by a glider. I'll handle reset.

Mark Niemiec's recipes include at least one that only needs two input signals, and it's trivially adjustable to give as much clearance as you need.

That will probably be true of stable-circuitry solutions that synchronize three gliders, too, come to think of it. Anyway, do you want a 3G version so that the whole mechanism can be off to one side, or is this good enough?


Does it have to be a single pulsar, or will you settle for two?

x = 201, y = 100, rule = B3/S23
180b2o$180b2o2$192b2o$19b2o150b2o19b2o$19b2o150b2o2$7b2o$7b2o19b2o$28b
2o88b2o11bo$118b2o10bobo65b2o$130bobo2b2o3bo56bo2bo$129b2ob2o2bo2bobo
56b2o$69bo11b2o50bobo3bobo$b2o65bobo10b2o46b2obo2b4obo$o2bo56bo3b2o2bo
bo58b2obobo3bo$b2o56bobo2bo2b2ob2o61bobo3bo$59bobo3bobo66bobo3bo$60bob
4o2bob2o63bo3b2o$62bo3bobob2o82bo$61bo3bobo84b3o$60bo3bobo84bo33b2o$
60b2o3bo60b2o23b2o32bo$46bo50bo28b2o58b3o$46b3o47bobo12b2o75bo$14b2o
33bo45bobo2bo9bo2bo85b2o$15bo32b2o23b2o18b3o2b2obo7bob2o85bobo$12b3o
58b2o17bo3b2o3bo2b2o3bo88b2o$12bo75b2o3b3o2b3o3b2o2b2o$2o85bo2bo4bobo
25b2o$obo85b2obo4bobo24bo36b2o$b2o88bo5bo26b3o33b2o31b2o$91b2o33bo10b
2o53bo2bo$76b2o58bobo54b2o$39b2o36bo58bo$6b2o31b2o33b3o58b2o10b2o$5bo
2bo53b2o10bo73bo$6b2o54bobo80b3o9b2o9b2o$64bo80bo11bo6bo3b2o$52b2o10b
2o89bobo5bobo$52bo102b2o5bobo11b2o$31b2o9b2o9b3o106bo12bobo$31b2o3bo6b
o11bo105b2o12bo$35bobo5bobo128b2o$23b2o11bobo5b2o$23bobo12bo$25bo12b2o
72bo$25b2o83b3o$109bo$109b2o3$87b2o19b2o$87b2o19b2o6$90b2o$91bo$88b3o
24b2o$88bo21b2o2bo2bo$110bobo2b2o$95b2o16b2o$96bo17bo$93b3o15bo2bob2o$
93bo16bobob2obo$111bobo$112bo2b2o$113b2ob3o$119bo$113b2ob3o$113b2obo2$
105b2o$96b2o7b2o$97bo$97bobo$98b2o4$118b2o$118b2o5$103bo$102bobo$102bo
bo$103bo$100b3o$100bo3$86b3o$88bo$87bo!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 23rd, 2017, 8:05 pm

calcyman wrote:Does it have to be a single pulsar, or will you settle for two?

x = 201, y = 100, rule = B3/S23...

Ha, much better!

Not sure why you used the bigger newer H-to-G5, though -- the old one works quite nicely too:

x = 123, y = 127, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A89.2A$8.2A3.2B2AB87.B2A2B3.2A$7.B2AB2.4B89.4B2.B2AB$8.2B3.6B.B
21.A37.A21.B.6B3.2B$9.2B2.10B19.3A33.3A19.10B2.2B$8.2B2A11B22.A31.A
22.11B2A2B$5.B.3B2A12B20.2A31.2A20.12B2A3B.B$4.2A18B20.B8.A15.A8.B20.
18B2A$4.2AB.15B19.3B6.3A15.3A6.3B19.15B.B2A$5.B3.15B16.6B4.A21.A4.6B
16.15B3.B$9.17B11.10B3.2A19.2A3.10B11.17B$10.19B2.2B3.16B19.16B3.2B2.
19B$10.15BD15B2A3BD3B23.3BD3B2A15BD15B$11.7B.4BDBD15B2A2B2D5B19.5B2D
2B2A15BDBD4B.7B$11.7B.4B3D18B2D6B19.6B2D18B3D4B.7B$10.7B.5BD21BD6B19.
6BD21BD5B.7B$10.6B.29BD7B15.7BD29B.6B$11.9B7.4B.13B.9B13.9B.13B.4B7.
9B$10.9B9.4B4.B.19B9.19B.B4.4B9.9B$2A7.9B11.4B12.14B5.14B12.4B11.9B7.
2A$.A6.9B13.5B9.15B5.15B9.5B13.9B6.A$.A.AB2.9B15.4B9.14B7.14B9.4B15.
9B2.BA.A$2.2AB.5B3D2B16.4BA7.13B9.13B7.A4B16.2B3D5B.B2A$4.9BD2B18.BAB
A3.15B11.15B3.ABAB18.2BD9B$4.8B3DB18.A2BA2.15B13.15B2.A2BA18.B3D8B$4.
12B19.2AB.17B11.17B.B2A19.12B$4.12B21.19B11.19B21.12B$3.13B20.19B13.
19B20.13B$4.11B22.20B2.2A.2A2.20B22.11B$5.8B22.2AB.16B2A.A.A.A.A.2A
16B.B2A22.8B$5.9B20.A.AB2.13B.B2ABA5.AB2AB.13B2.BA.A20.9B$7.6B2A3.2A
14.A6.11B4.B2.A3.A2.B4.11B6.A14.2A3.2A6B$7.6BA.A.A.A13.2A7.11B2.2A.2A
3.2A.2A2.11B7.2A13.A.A.A.A6B$8.2B.3B.A.A21.14B3.A.A5.A.A3.14B21.A.A.
3B.2B$7.2A3.BA.A.A.A18.16B2.A.A5.A.A2.16B18.A.A.A.AB3.2A$7.A5.2A3.2A
9.2A7.13B.B2A.2A7.2A.2AB.13B7.2A9.2A3.2A5.A$5.A.A20.A2.A2.2A2.13B.BA.
A11.A.AB.13B2.2A2.A2.A20.A.A$5.2A22.2A2.A.A2.B3D4B.2B6.A11.A6.2B.4B3D
B2.A.A2.2A22.2A$31.2A.B3.2BD4B10.2A9.2A10.4BD2B3.B.2A$31.A2.2B2.2B3D
2B33.2B3D2B2.2B2.A$28.2A.A.BA2B.6B35.6B.2BAB.A.2A$28.A.2A.A.A8B35.8BA
.A.2A.A$32.A.A.8B35.8B.A.A$29.2A2.A4.5B37.5B4.A2.2A$27.3A.2A4.6B37.6B
4.2A.3A$26.A4.B6.6B35.6B6.B4.A$27.3AB2AB3.7B35.7B3.B2AB3A$29.A.2AB.8B
37.8B.B2A.A$33.10B37.10B$33.6B2A3B35.3B2A6B$33.6B2A2B5.2A10.A12.2A5.
2B2A6B$33.10B5.A10.A.A12.A5.10B$32.11B2.BA.A9.A.A2.AB9.A.AB2.11B$32.
12B.B2A8.3A2.2A.AB.B7.2AB.12B$31.15B9.A3.2A2.BA2B2A8.15B$30.16B10.3A
2.3AB.B2A8.16B$27.2B.16B12.A.A2.2B2.B9.16B.2B$26.2A18B12.BABAB14.18B
2A$26.2AB.17B12.BA3B12.17B.B2A$27.B.4B.8B2.4B12.4B11.4B2.8B.4B.B$34.
7B4.4B11.3B11.4B4.7B$35.6B5.4B7.B.4B10.4B5.6B$37.4B6.4B.B3.8B.B4.B.4B
6.4B$39.3BA5.6B2.11B2.6B5.A3B$40.BA.A4.27B4.A.AB$41.A.A3.29B3.A.A$42.
A5.27B5.A$43.3A2.27B2.3A$45.A3.25B3.A$49.25B$51.21B$52.2B.13B.2B$55.
13B$56.11B8.A$56.9B8.3A$56.9B7.A$56.10B6.2A$54.13B2.5B$51.2B.18B$50.
2A19B2A$50.2AB.17B2A$51.B.17B.B$54.16B$55.14B$55.3B2.8B$53.4B3.7B$53.
2A4.11B$54.A4.12B$51.3A5.12B7.2A$51.A8.11B2.2A2.A2.A$58.4B.8B2.A.A2.
2A$58.2A4.7B3.B.2A$59.A4.7B2.2B2.A$56.3A6.6B.2BAB.A.2A$56.A8.8BA.A.2A
.A$65.8B.A.A$66.5B4.A2.2A$66.6B4.2A.3A$65.6B6.B4.A$65.7B3.B2AB3A$66.
8B.B2A.A$66.10B$65.3B2A6B$59.2A5.2B2A6B$60.A5.10B$60.A.AB2.11B$61.2AB
.12B$63.15B$63.16B$63.16B.2B$63.18B2A$62.17B.B2A$61.4B2.8B.4B.B$60.4B
4.7B$59.4B5.6B$58.4B6.4B$57.4B5.A3B$56.4B5.A.AB$55.4B6.A.A$54.4B8.A$
53.4B6.3A$52.4B7.A$51.4B$50.4B$49.3AB$49.2BA$50.A!
#C [[ AUTOFIT STEP 20 ]]

EDIT: Oops, R64 works fine in that context. Of course if more clearance is needed, the final G-to-G5-pair converters are still trivially adjustable. You can even move one of them and not the other, and it still works:

Code: Select all
x = 311, y = 386, rule = LifeHistory
245.2B.B15.B.2B$244.9B7.9B$243.11B5.11B$242.13B3.13B$241.13B5.13B$
241.13B5.13B$241.14B3.14B$241.15B.15B$240.16B.16B$240.16B.16B$240.16B
.16B$239.17B.17B$240.16B.16B$241.15B.15B$240.16B.16B$240.16B.16B$240.
16B.16B$239.16B3.16B$240.10B.3B5.3B.10B$240.4B.4B3.2B5.2B3.4B.4B$239.
4B.4B17.4B.4B$238.4B.4B19.4B.4B$237.4B.4B21.4B.4B$236.4B.4B23.4B.4B$
235.4B.4B25.4B.4B$234.4B.4B27.4B.4B$233.4B.4B29.4B.4B$232.4B.4B31.4B.
4B$231.4B.4B33.4B.4B$230.4B.4B35.4B.4B11.2A$229.4B.4B37.4B.4B9.B2A2B
3.2A$228.4B.4B39.4B.4B9.4B2.B2AB$227.4B.4B41.4B.4B4.B.6B3.2B$226.4B.
4B43.4B.4B.10B2.2B$225.4B.4B36.2A7.4B.15B2A2B$224.4B.4B36.B2AB7.4B.
14B2A3B.B$223.4B.4B38.2B9.4B.19B2A$222.4B.4B34.B3.2B11.4B.16B.B2A$
221.4B.4B34.2AB.4B11.19B3.B$220.4B.4B35.2A8B10.18B$219.4B.4B37.B.B2A
6B2.2B2.19B$218.4B.4B41.2A31B$217.4B.4B42.32B$216.4B.4B39.28B.7B$215.
4B.4B40.29B.7B$214.4B.4B40.2A29B.6B$213.4B.4B41.2A14B.4B7.9B$212.4B.
4B43.B.11B2.4B9.9B$211.4B.4B46.10B2.4B11.9B7.2A$210.4B.4B48.14B13.9B
6.A$209.4B.4B48.14B15.9B2.BA.A$208.4B.4B50.13B7.2A6.10B.B2A$207.4B.4B
51.13B2.2A2.A2.A5.12B$206.4B.4B54.2B.8B2.A.A2.2A6.12B$205.4B.4B58.8B
3.B.2A8.12B$204.4B.4B59.8B2.2B2.A8.12B$203.4B.4B58.10B.2BAB.A.2A5.13B
$202.4B.4B59.2A2.8BA.A.2A.A6.11B$201.4B.4B61.A2.8B.A.A12.8B$187.2A11.
4B.4B59.3A4.5B4.A2.2A8.9B$180.2A3.2B2AB9.4B.4B60.A6.6B4.2A.3A5.2A6B$
179.B2AB2.4B9.4B.4B67.6B6.B4.A3.A.A6B$180.2B3.6B.B4.4B.4B68.7B3.B2AB
3A4.A.3B.2B$181.2B2.10B.4B.4B70.8B.B2A.A5.2A.AB3.2A$180.2B2A15B.4B7.
2A62.10B8.A2.2A5.A$177.B.3B2A14B.4B7.B2AB60.3B2A6B8.2A8.A.A$176.2A19B
.4B9.2B55.2A5.2B2A6B19.2A$176.2AB.16B.4B11.2B3.B51.A5.10B$177.B3.19B
11.4B.B2A50.A.AB2.11B$181.18B10.8B2A51.2AB.12B$182.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B
54.15B$182.31B2A57.16B$183.32B57.16B.2B$183.7B.28B53.18B2A$182.7B.29B
52.17B.B2A$182.6B.29B2A50.4B2.8B.4B.B$183.9B7.4B.14B2A49.4B4.7B$182.
9B9.4B2.11B.B49.4B5.6B$172.2A7.9B11.4B2.10B50.4B6.4B$173.A6.9B13.14B
50.4B5.A3B$173.A.AB2.9B15.14B48.4B5.A.AB$174.2AB.10B6.2A7.13B48.4B6.A
.A$176.12B5.A2.A2.2A2.13B47.4B8.A$176.12B6.2A2.A.A2.8B.2B48.4B6.3A$
176.12B8.2A.B3.8B50.4B7.A$176.12B8.A2.2B2.8B49.4B$175.13B5.2A.A.BA2B.
10B46.4B$176.11B6.A.2A.A.A8B2.2A45.4B$177.8B12.A.A.8B2.A45.4B$177.9B
8.2A2.A4.5B4.3A41.4B$179.6B2A5.3A.2A4.6B6.A40.4B$179.6BA.A3.A4.B6.6B
45.4B$180.2B.3B.A4.3AB2AB3.7B44.4B$179.2A3.BA.2A5.A.2AB.8B44.4B$179.A
5.2A2.A8.10B43.4B$177.A.A8.2A8.6B2A3B41.4B$177.2A19.6B2A2B5.2A10.A23.
4B$198.10B5.A10.A.A21.4B$197.11B2.BA.A9.A.A2.AB17.4B$197.12B.B2A8.3A
2.2A.AB.B13.4B$196.15B9.A3.2A2.BA2B2A11.4B$195.16B10.3A2.3AB.B2A10.4B
$192.2B.16B12.A.A2.2B2.B10.4B$191.2A18B12.BABAB14.4B$191.2AB.17B12.BA
3B12.4B$192.B.4B.8B2.4B12.4B11.4B$199.7B4.4B11.3B11.4B$200.6B5.4B7.B.
4B10.4B$202.4B6.4B.B3.8B.B4.B.4B$204.3BA5.6B2.11B2.6B$205.BA.A4.27B$
206.A.A3.29B$207.A5.27B$208.3A2.27B$210.A3.25B$214.25B$216.21B$217.2B
.13B.2B$220.13B$221.11B8.A$221.9B8.3A$221.9B7.A$221.10B6.2A$219.13B2.
5B$216.2B.18B$215.2A19B2A$215.2AB.17B2A$216.B.17B.B$219.16B$220.14B$
220.3B2.8B$218.4B3.7B$218.2A4.11B$219.A4.12B$216.3A5.12B7.2A$216.A8.
11B2.2A2.A2.A$223.4B.8B2.A.A2.2A$223.2A4.7B3.B.2A$224.A4.7B2.2B2.A$
221.3A6.6B.2BAB.A.2A$221.A8.8BA.A.2A.A$230.8B.A.A$231.5B4.A2.2A$231.
6B4.2A.3A$230.6B6.B4.A$230.7B3.B2AB3A$231.8B.B2A.A$231.10B$230.3B2A6B
$224.2A5.2B2A6B$225.A5.10B$225.A.AB2.11B$226.2AB.12B$228.15B$228.16B$
228.16B.2B$228.18B2A$227.17B.B2A$226.4B2.8B.4B.B$225.4B4.7B$224.4B5.
6B$223.4B6.4B$222.4B5.A3B$221.4B5.A.AB$220.4B6.A.A$219.4B8.A$218.4B6.
3A$217.4B7.A$216.4B$215.4B$214.4B$213.4B$212.4B$211.4B$210.4B$209.4B$
208.4B$207.4B$206.4B$205.4B$204.4B$203.4B$202.4B$201.A3B$200.B2AB$
199.BABA$198.4B$197.4B$196.4B$195.4B$194.4B$193.4B$192.4B$191.4B$190.
4B$189.4B$188.4B$187.4B$186.4B$185.4B$184.4B$183.4B$182.4B$181.4B$
180.4B$179.4B$178.4B$177.4B$176.4B$175.4B$174.4B$173.4B$172.4B$171.4B
$170.4B$169.4B$168.4B$167.4B$166.4B$165.4B$164.4B$163.4B$162.4B$161.
4B$160.4B$159.4B$158.4B$157.4B$156.4B$155.4B$154.4B$153.4B$152.4B$
151.4B$150.4B$149.4B$148.4B$147.4B$146.4B$145.4B$144.4B$143.4B$142.4B
$141.4B$140.4B$139.4B$138.4B$137.4B$136.4B$135.4B$134.4B$133.4B$132.
4B$131.4B$130.4B$129.4B$128.4B$127.4B$126.4B$125.4B$124.4B$123.4B$
122.4B$121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$118.4B$117.4B$116.4B$115.4B$114.4B$113.4B
$112.4B$111.4B$110.4B$109.4B$108.4B$107.4B$106.4B$105.4B$104.4B$103.
4B$102.4B$101.4B$100.4B$99.4B$98.4B$97.4B$96.4B$95.4B$94.4B$93.4B$92.
4B$91.4B$90.4B$89.4B$88.4B$87.4B$86.4B$85.4B$84.4B$83.4B$82.4B$81.2A
2B$80.2B2A$79.2BAB$78.4B$77.4B$76.4B$75.4B$74.4B$73.4B$72.4B$71.4B$
70.4B$69.4B$68.4B$67.4B$66.4B$65.4B$64.4B$63.4B$62.4B$61.4B$60.4B$59.
4B$58.4B$57.4B$56.4B$55.4B$54.4B$53.4B$52.4B$51.4B$50.4B$49.4B$48.4B$
47.4B$46.4B$45.4B$44.4B$43.4B$42.4B$41.2A2B$40.ABAB$39.3BA$38.4B$37.
4B$36.4B$35.4B$34.4B$33.4B$32.4B$31.4B$30.4B$29.4B$28.4B$27.4B$26.4B$
25.4B$24.4B$23.4B$22.4B$21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.
4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.4B$9.4B$8.4B$7.4B$6.4B$5.4B$4.4B$3.4B$2.4B$.A
3B$B2AB$ABA!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby calcyman » September 24th, 2017, 7:36 am

dvgrn wrote:Oops, R64 works fine in that context. Of course if more clearance is needed, the final G-to-G5-pair converters are still trivially adjustable.


Very nice! The minimal version fits squarely in a 109-by-109 box, and the pulsars are constructed safely outside:
x = 109, y = 109, rule = LifeHistory
15.2A11.4B.4B35.4B.4B11.2A$8.2A3.2B2AB9.4B.4B37.4B.4B9.B2A2B3.2A$7.B
2AB2.4B9.4B.4B39.4B.4B9.4B2.B2AB$8.2B3.6B.B4.4B.4B41.4B.4B4.B.6B3.2B$
9.2B2.10B.4B.4B43.4B.4B.10B2.2B$8.2B2A15B.4B7.2A27.2A7.4B.15B2A2B$5.B
.3B2A14B.4B7.B2AB25.B2AB7.4B.14B2A3B.B$4.2A19B.4B9.2B27.2B9.4B.19B2A$
4.2AB.16B.4B11.2B3.B17.B3.2B11.4B.16B.B2A$5.B3.19B11.4B.B2A15.2AB.4B
11.19B3.B$9.18B10.8B2A15.2A8B10.18B$10.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B17.B.B2A6B2.2B
2.19B$10.31B2A23.2A31B$11.32B23.32B$11.7B.28B15.28B.7B$10.7B.29B15.
29B.7B$10.6B.29B2A13.2A29B.6B$11.9B7.4B.14B2A13.2A14B.4B7.9B$10.9B9.
4B2.11B.B15.B.11B2.4B9.9B$2A7.9B11.4B2.10B19.10B2.4B11.9B7.2A$.A6.9B
13.14B21.14B13.9B6.A$.A.AB2.9B15.14B19.14B15.9B2.BA.A$2.2AB.10B6.2A7.
13B21.13B7.2A6.10B.B2A$4.12B5.A2.A2.2A2.13B21.13B2.2A2.A2.A5.12B$4.
12B6.2A2.A.A2.8B.2B25.2B.8B2.A.A2.2A6.12B$4.12B8.2A.B3.8B31.8B3.B.2A
8.12B$4.12B8.A2.2B2.8B31.8B2.2B2.A8.12B$3.13B5.2A.A.BA2B.10B27.10B.2B
AB.A.2A5.13B$4.11B6.A.2A.A.A8B2.2A27.2A2.8BA.A.2ABA2B4.11B$5.8B12.A.A
.8B2.A29.A2.8B.A.A.4B7.8B$5.9B8.2A2.A4.5B4.3A23.3A4.5B4.A.B2AB7.9B$7.
6B2A5.3A.2A4.6B6.A23.A6.6B4.2AB3A5.2A6B$7.6BA.A3.A4.B6.6B35.6B4.4B3.A
3.A.A6B$8.2B.3B.A4.3AB2AB3.7B35.7B2.2B2AB3A4.A.3B.2B$7.2A3.BA.2A5.A.
2AB.8B37.10B2A.A5.2A.AB3.2A$7.A5.2A2.A8.10B37.10B8.A2.2A5.A$5.A.A8.2A
8.6B2A3B35.3B2A6B8.2A8.A.A$5.2A19.6B2A2B5.2A10.A12.2A5.2B2A6B19.2A$
26.10B5.A10.A.A12.A5.10B$25.11B2.BA.A9.A.A2.AB9.A.AB2.11B$25.12B.B2A
8.3A2.2A.AB.B7.2AB.12B$24.15B9.A3.2A2.BA2B2A8.15B$23.16B10.3A2.3AB.B
2A8.16B$20.2B.16B12.A.A2.2B2.B9.16B.2B$19.2A18B12.BABAB14.18B2A$19.2A
B.17B12.BA3B12.17B.B2A$20.B.4B.8B2.4B12.4B11.4B2.8B.4B.B$27.7B4.4B11.
3B11.4B4.7B$28.6B5.4B7.B.4B10.4B5.6B$30.4B6.4B.B3.8B.B4.B.4B6.4B$32.
3BA5.6B2.11B2.6B5.A3B$33.BA.A4.27B4.A.AB$34.A.A3.29B3.A.A$35.A5.27B5.
A$36.3A2.27B2.3A$38.A3.25B3.A$42.25B$44.21B$45.2B.13B.2B$48.13B$49.
11B8.A$49.9B8.3A$49.9B7.A$49.10B6.2A$47.13B2.5B$44.2B.18B$43.2A19B2A$
43.2AB.17B2A$44.B.17B.B$47.16B$48.14B$48.3B2.8B$46.4B3.7B$46.2A4.11B$
47.A4.12B$44.3A5.12B7.2A$44.A8.11B2.2A2.A2.A$51.4B.8B2.A.A2.2A$51.2A
4.7B3.B.2A$52.A4.7B2.2B2.A$49.3A6.6B.2BAB.A.2A$49.A8.8BA.A.2A.A$58.8B
.A.A$59.5B4.A2.2A$59.6B4.2A.3A$58.6B6.B4.A$58.7B3.B2AB3A$59.8B.B2A.A$
59.10B$58.3B2A6B$52.2A5.2B2A6B$53.A5.10B$53.A.AB2.11B$54.2AB.12B$56.
15B$56.16B$56.16B.2B$56.18B2A$55.17B.B2A$54.4B2.8B.4B.B$53.4B4.7B$52.
4B5.6B$51.4B6.4B$50.4B5.A3B$49.4B5.A.AB$48.4B6.A.A$47.A3B8.A$46.B2AB
6.3A$45.BABA7.A!


EDIT: if you're unsatisfied with the non-D8 symmetry of the twin pulsar, there's an easy workaround:

x = 245, y = 287, rule = B3/S23
181b2o$181bobo$183bo4b2o$179b4ob2o2bo2bo$179bo2bobobobob2o$182bobobobo
$183b2obobo$187bo$192bo$173b2o17b3o$174bo7b2o11bo$174bobo5b2o10bobo$
175b2o17bobo$195bo5$210b2o$185b2o23b2o$185bo$186b3o$188bo$188bob2o$
189bobo$187bobo$186bob2o7b2o$186bo10b2o$185b2o$205b2obo$205b2ob3o$211b
o$205b2ob3o$204bo2b2o$203bobo$185bo16bobob2obo$185b3o15bo2bob2o$188bo
17bo$187b2o16b2o$202bobo2b2o$180bo21b2o2bo2bo$180b3o24b2o$183bo$182b2o
6$179b2o19b2o$179b2o19b2o3$201b2o$201bo$202b3o$204bo5$174bo31bo$172b3o
31b3o$171bo37bo$170bobo35bobo$170bobo35bobo$171bo37bo5$155b2o32bo34b2o
$155b2o31bobo33b2o$187bobo$185b3o2b3o3b2o$184bo3b2o3bo2b2o$175b2o8b3o
2b2obo10b2o$175bobo9bobo2bo10bobo$177bo10bobo12bo$141b2o25b2o7b2o10bo
12b2o7b2o25b2o$141bobo8b2o14b2o41b2o14b2o8bobo$143bo5b2o2bo73bo2b2o5bo
$143b2o4bob2o5bob2o57b2obo5b2obo4b2o$151bo4b3ob2o57b2ob3o4bo$149bobo3b
o69bo3bobo$149b2o5b3ob2o16bo23bo16b2ob3o5b2o$158b2o2bo13b3o23b3o13bo2b
2o$161bobo11bo29bo11bobo$157bob2obobo10b2o27b2o10bobob2obo$157b2obo2bo
53bo2bob2o$160bo59bo$160b2o57b2o$158b2o2bobo51bobo2b2o$157bo2bo2b2o51b
2o2bo2bo$138b2o18b2o61b2o18b2o$137bobo101bobo$137bo105bo$136b2o105b2o
2$182b2o13b2o$182b2o13b2o4$177b2o23b2o$177b2o23b2o$181b2o15b2o$181b2o
15b2o$140b2o97b2o$140b2o97b2o$146b2o27b2o27b2o27b2o$146b2o27b2o27b2o
27b2o3$144b2o89b2o$144b2o5b2o75b2o5b2o$151b2o75b2o11$bo$2bo$3o3$49b2o$
40b2o7b2o$41bo$41bobo$42b2o$75bo$35b2o37bobo$36bo37bobo$36bobo34b2ob2o
$26bo10b2o33bo2bo2bo$24b3o44bobobobobo$23bo48bobobobo$23b2o49bobo$8b2o
64bo2bo$9bo65b2o$9bob2o$10bo2bo$11b2o61b2o$26b2o46b2o$26b2o2$49b2o$49b
2o2b2o$35bo3b2o12bobo$34bobo3bo14bo$33bobo3bo15b2o$29b2obobo3bo$29b2ob
o2b4obo$33bobo3bobo$29b2ob2o2bo2bobo$30bobo2b2o3bo$18b2o10bobo$18b2o
11bo6$151b2o75b2o$144b2o5b2o75b2o5b2o$144b2o89b2o3$146b2o27b2o27b2o27b
2o$146b2o27b2o27b2o27b2o$140b2o97b2o$140b2o97b2o$181b2o15b2o$181b2o15b
2o$177b2o23b2o$177b2o23b2o4$182b2o13b2o$182b2o13b2o2$136b2o105b2o$137b
o105bo$137bobo101bobo$138b2o18b2o61b2o18b2o$157bo2bo2b2o51b2o2bo2bo$
158b2o2bobo51bobo2b2o$160b2o57b2o$160bo59bo$157b2obo2bo53bo2bob2o$157b
ob2obobo10b2o27b2o10bobob2obo$161bobo11bo29bo11bobo$158b2o2bo13b3o23b
3o13bo2b2o$149b2o5b3ob2o16bo23bo16b2ob3o5b2o$149bobo3bo69bo3bobo$151bo
4b3ob2o57b2ob3o4bo$143b2o4bob2o5bob2o57b2obo5b2obo4b2o$143bo5b2o2bo73b
o2b2o5bo$141bobo8b2o14b2o41b2o14b2o8bobo$141b2o25b2o7b2o10bo12b2o7b2o
25b2o$177bo10bobo12bo$175bobo9bobo2bo10bobo$175b2o8b3o2b2obo10b2o$184b
o3b2o3bo2b2o$185b3o2b3o3b2o$187bobo$155b2o31bobo33b2o$155b2o32bo34b2o
5$171bo37bo$170bobo35bobo$170bobo35bobo$171bo37bo$172b3o31b3o$174bo31b
o5$204bo$202b3o$201bo$201b2o3$179b2o19b2o$179b2o19b2o6$182b2o$183bo$
180b3o24b2o$180bo21b2o2bo2bo$202bobo2b2o$187b2o16b2o$188bo17bo$185b3o
15bo2bob2o$185bo16bobob2obo$203bobo$204bo2b2o$205b2ob3o$211bo$205b2ob
3o$205b2obo$185b2o$186bo10b2o$186bob2o7b2o$187bobo$189bobo$188bob2o$
188bo$186b3o$185bo$185b2o23b2o$210b2o5$195bo$175b2o17bobo$174bobo5b2o
10bobo$174bo7b2o11bo$173b2o17b3o$192bo$187bo$183b2obobo$182bobobobo$
179bo2bobobobob2o$179b4ob2o2bo2bo$183bo4b2o$181bobo$181b2o!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby triller » September 24th, 2017, 11:56 am

Thanks for all of the excellent suggestions.
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 24th, 2017, 2:56 pm

calcyman wrote:EDIT: if you're unsatisfied with the non-D8 symmetry of the twin pulsar, there's an easy workaround...

I like it! -- though it doesn't have the nice feature it had before where the pulsars escape from the factory's bounding box.

There's still a 3G single-channel recipe to clean up the four-pulsar group, but it's a little different:

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x = 499, y = 470, rule = B3/S23
bo$2bo$3o59$60bobo$61b2o$61bo38$102bo$100bobo$101b2o80$435b2o$435bobo$
437bo4b2o$433b4ob2o2bo2bo$433bo2bobobobob2o$436bobobobo$437b2obobo$
441bo$446bo$427b2o17b3o$428bo7b2o11bo$428bobo5b2o10bobo$429b2o17bobo$
449bo5$464b2o$439b2o23b2o$439bo$440b3o$442bo$442bob2o$443bobo$441bobo$
440bob2o7b2o$440bo10b2o$439b2o$459b2obo$459b2ob3o$465bo$459b2ob3o$458b
o2b2o$457bobo$439bo16bobob2obo$439b3o15bo2bob2o$442bo17bo$441b2o16b2o$
456bobo2b2o$434bo21b2o2bo2bo$434b3o24b2o$437bo$436b2o6$433b2o19b2o$
433b2o19b2o3$455b2o$455bo$456b3o$458bo5$428bo31bo$426b3o31b3o$425bo37b
o$424bobo35bobo$424bobo35bobo$425bo37bo5$409b2o32bo34b2o$409b2o31bobo
33b2o$441bobo$439b3o2b3o3b2o$438bo3b2o3bo2b2o$429b2o8b3o2b2obo10b2o$
429bobo9bobo2bo10bobo$431bo10bobo12bo$395b2o25b2o7b2o10bo12b2o7b2o25b
2o$395bobo8b2o14b2o41b2o14b2o8bobo$397bo5b2o2bo73bo2b2o5bo$397b2o4bob
2o5bob2o57b2obo5b2obo4b2o$405bo4b3ob2o57b2ob3o4bo$403bobo3bo69bo3bobo$
403b2o5b3ob2o16bo23bo16b2ob3o5b2o$412b2o2bo13b3o23b3o13bo2b2o$415bobo
11bo29bo11bobo$350b2o59bob2obobo10b2o27b2o10bobob2obo$351bo59b2obo2bo
53bo2bob2o$349bo64bo59bo$349b5o14b2o44b2o57b2o$354bo13bo43b2o2bobo51bo
bo2b2o$351b3o12bobo42bo2bo2b2o51b2o2bo2bo$350bo15b2o24b2o18b2o61b2o18b
2o$350b4o37bobo101bobo$348b2o3bo3b2o32bo105bo$347bo2b3o4b2o31b2o105b2o
$347b2obo$350bo85b2o13b2o$350b2o84b2o13b2o3$358b2o$359bo71b2o23b2o$
356b3o72b2o23b2o$356bo78b2o15b2o$435b2o15b2o$394b2o97b2o$394b2o97b2o$
400b2o27b2o27b2o27b2o$400b2o27b2o27b2o27b2o3$398b2o89b2o$398b2o5b2o75b
2o5b2o$392b2o11b2o75b2o$392b2o$396bo$376b2o14b5o$377bo13bo$377bobo12b
3o$378b2o15bo$392b4o$387b2o3bo3b2o$387b2o4b3o2bo$395bob2o$395bo$310bob
o81b2o$311b2o$311bo$386b2o$359b2o25bo$350b2o7b2o26b3o$351bo37bo$351bob
o$352b2o$385bo$345b2o37bobo$346bo37bobo$346bobo34b2ob2o$336bo10b2o33bo
2bo2bo$334b3o44bobobobobo$333bo48bobobobo$333b2o49bobo$318b2o64bo2bo$
319bo65b2o$319bob2o$320bo2bo$321b2o61b2o$336b2o46b2o$336b2o$389bo$359b
2o26b3o$359b2o2b2o21bo$345bo3b2o12bobo20b2o$344bobo3bo14bo$343bobo3bo
15b2o$339b2obobo3bo45b2o$339b2obo2b4obo44bo$343bobo3bobo43bob2o$339b2o
b2o2bo2bobo35b2o4b3o2bo$340bobo2b2o3bo36b2o3bo3b2o$328b2o10bobo49b4o$
328b2o11bo36b2o15bo$377bobo12b3o$377bo13bo$376b2o14b5o$396bo$392b2o$
392b2o11b2o75b2o$398b2o5b2o75b2o5b2o$398b2o89b2o3$400b2o27b2o27b2o27b
2o$400b2o27b2o27b2o27b2o$394b2o97b2o$394b2o97b2o$435b2o15b2o$356bo78b
2o15b2o$356b3o72b2o23b2o$359bo71b2o23b2o$358b2o3$350b2o84b2o13b2o$350b
o85b2o13b2o$347b2obo$347bo2b3o4b2o31b2o105b2o$348b2o3bo3b2o32bo105bo$
350b4o37bobo101bobo$350bo15b2o24b2o18b2o61b2o18b2o$351b3o12bobo42bo2bo
2b2o51b2o2bo2bo$354bo13bo43b2o2bobo51bobo2b2o$349b5o14b2o44b2o57b2o$
349bo64bo59bo$351bo59b2obo2bo53bo2bob2o$350b2o59bob2obobo10b2o27b2o10b
obob2obo$415bobo11bo29bo11bobo$412b2o2bo13b3o23b3o13bo2b2o$403b2o5b3ob
2o16bo23bo16b2ob3o5b2o$403bobo3bo69bo3bobo$405bo4b3ob2o57b2ob3o4bo$
397b2o4bob2o5bob2o57b2obo5b2obo4b2o$397bo5b2o2bo73bo2b2o5bo$395bobo8b
2o14b2o41b2o14b2o8bobo$395b2o25b2o7b2o10bo12b2o7b2o25b2o$431bo10bobo
12bo$429bobo9bobo2bo10bobo$429b2o8b3o2b2obo10b2o$438bo3b2o3bo2b2o$439b
3o2b3o3b2o$441bobo$409b2o31bobo33b2o$409b2o32bo34b2o5$425bo37bo$424bob
o35bobo$424bobo35bobo$425bo37bo$426b3o31b3o$428bo31bo5$458bo$456b3o$
455bo$455b2o3$433b2o19b2o$433b2o19b2o6$436b2o$437bo$434b3o24b2o$434bo
21b2o2bo2bo$456bobo2b2o$441b2o16b2o$442bo17bo$439b3o15bo2bob2o$439bo
16bobob2obo$457bobo$458bo2b2o$459b2ob3o$465bo$459b2ob3o$459b2obo$439b
2o$440bo10b2o$440bob2o7b2o$441bobo$443bobo$442bob2o$442bo$440b3o$439bo
$439b2o23b2o$464b2o5$449bo$429b2o17bobo$428bobo5b2o10bobo$428bo7b2o11b
o$427b2o17b3o$446bo$441bo$437b2obobo$436bobobobo$433bo2bobobobob2o$
433b4ob2o2bo2bo$437bo4b2o$435bobo$435b2o!
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Watch out, though, @triller -- this kind of thing mixes very easily with p30 circuitry, but it's a slippery slope. Once you notice how nice it is not to have to deal with p30 rephasing issues, it might be hard to go back.
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby triller » September 25th, 2017, 9:06 am

dvgrn wrote:Watch out, though, @triller -- this kind of thing mixes very easily with p30 circuitry, but it's a slippery slope. Once you notice how nice it is not to have to deal with p30 rephasing issues, it might be hard to go back.


Not to worry. My toolbox runneth over w/ p30 fasteners. A modicum of Spartan glue can't hurt though, as long as the bounding box isn't prohibitive.

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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 25th, 2017, 11:35 am

triller wrote:A modicum of Spartan glue can't hurt though, as long as the bounding box isn't prohibitive.

Not to be pedantic, but "Spartan" generally means "easy to construct with gliders", especially slow glider salvos -- as well as meaning that the circuitry is all still lifes.

... Okay, I might as well admit it, I am being pedantic. Probably comes of spending too much time staring at Life Lexicon definitions recently.

I guess nowadays a good practical definition would be that a Spartan(ish?) pattern is one that can be compiled successfully with Calcyman's slmake program.

These pulsar factories definitely don't fall into the Spartan category -- too many standard syringes and other hard-to-build catalysts. They're just garden-variety stable circuitry, "p1" for short.
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby triller » September 26th, 2017, 1:54 am

dvgrn wrote:
triller wrote:A modicum of Spartan glue can't hurt though, as long as the bounding box isn't prohibitive.

Not to be pedantic...

I've been accused of being pedantic. I took a brief tangential journey into the Nomic world. Upon my judgement of the rules as written, apparently a participant took offense at my interpretation of ()eir offense. Oh well.

Call it Spartan or stable, my bent is and probably will always be periodic. There's room for my ilk. So much of the study of stable circuitry hasn't sparked any interest for me. It just ain't my thang. I get it, and at many levels I see the benefits. Clearly aperiodicity has its advantages, but synchronous calls for a bit of fitting in larger assemblies. I'm just more comfortable with what I know and like.

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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby Jormungant » September 27th, 2017, 2:45 pm

I also prefer periodic constructions, I wonder what would be the size for stable circuitry that would be able to produce a rake from a single glider...


x = 324, y = 433, rule = B3/S23
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$90b5o31bo8b4o6b2o$89b2o3b2o29bo12bo6bobo$89b2o3b2o29b3o19bo$147b2o5$
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105b2o4bob2o45b2o5b2o$111bo3bo$55bo44bo10b2o50b2o$55b3o40b3o10bo51b2o$
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$182bobo$179b2o14b2o76b2o$42bo134b2o5bo10b2o75bob2o$41b3o133b2obo90b3o
$40b5o132b4o2bo$39b2o3b2o114b2o16bo4bo86b2o19b2o$160b2o17b4o87bo3bo16b
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5b4o6b3o160b2o5b4o$85bo3$41bo3b3o263b2o$33b2o5bobo2b5o38b2o5b2o213b2o
7b3o$33b2o5bo8b2o37b2o5b2o214bo2bo6bo$41b3o4b2o262bo6bobo$37b2o4b2o3bo
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3bo$57b2o5b2o5bo2bo2bo3bo13b2o8b2o15b4o158b2o16b4o$57b2o5b2o5bo4bo3b2o
13b2o6bo55bo125bo$72bo3bo18b2o9bo51b2o$77bo13b2o4bobo2bo55bobo$90bobo
6bo2bo$90bo$53b2o20b2o12b2o12b2o$53bo22bo28bo$54b3o16b3o132b2o10b2o5b
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39b2o6b2o$146b2o6b2o46b2o39b3o$104b3o34b2o59b2o37b2obo$140bo2bo98b2o$
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33b3o10b2o5b2o25bo7b3o$193b2o14bo5bo3bo$192bobo19bo5bo$194bo20bo3bo20b
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40bob2o$128bo44bo40bobo$185b3o27bo$187bo$186bo$212b2o3b2o$212bobobobo$
213b5o$214b3o$178b2o35bo$166b2o9bobo$166b3o10bo$168b2obo11bo$168bo2bo
10b2o$168b2obo9b2o4b2o2b2o$159b2o5b3o11b3o4b2o2b2o$158bobo5b2o13b2o4b
2o25b2o$158bo23b2o30b2o$157b2o24bo!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 27th, 2017, 3:44 pm

Jormungant wrote:I also prefer periodic constructions, I wonder what would be the size for stable circuitry that would be able to produce a rake from a single glider...

That may have been a rhetorical question, and certainly there's no competition.

It could probably be done in something close to 500x500, or about ten times the area of the p120-based rake gun. That's just a rough guess based on this recent effort by Goldtiger997, which synchronizes just over twice as many gliders as would be needed for a glider-to-rake converter.

P1 proponents can't even claim to be able to do better if the input glider's timing is unknown. You could attach a simple universal regulator (ow, I really have to rebuild that thing one of these days -- it could be so much smaller now...) and the resulting structure would still be a small fraction of the size of a stable equivalent.

The only case that P1 wins on is if you need a rake to come out in a certain location, always exactly T ticks after the input goes in. I wonder what the size would be for p30/p46/p120 circuitry that could pull off that trick with an unknown-timing input glider -- I bet it would be about ten times the area of the equivalent stable circuitry...!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby Jormungant » September 28th, 2017, 1:40 am

dvgrn wrote:The only case that P1 wins on is if you need a rake to come out in a certain location, always exactly T ticks after the input goes in. I wonder what the size would be for p30/p46/p120 circuitry that could pull off that trick with an unknown-timing input glider -- I bet it would be about ten times the area of the equivalent stable circuitry...!


Well, cannot argue with that, but that also feed into the point that you make anything larger if you want it to be able to perform with a gliders with random timing.

Speaking of which, it seems that the P1 regulator that you mentioned can be broken down if the input glider arrives at 3 precise timing while the eater is being destroyed... it could generates a glider, block or a hive, which all can degenerate and destroy the construction.

x = 105, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
3$8bo$9b2o$8b2o8$18bo$19b2o$18b2o41bo29bo$62b2o28b2o$22b2o37b2o28b2o$
22bo$23b3o39b2o28b2o$25bo39bo29bo$66b3o27b3o$18b3o47bo29bo$20bo41bo29b
2o$19bo42b2o27bobo$61bobo29bo8$52bo$52b2o$51bobo!
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » September 28th, 2017, 7:50 am

Jormungant wrote:Speaking of which, it seems that the P1 regulator that you mentioned can be broken down if the input glider arrives at 3 precise timing while the eater is being destroyed... it could generates a glider, block or a hive, which all can degenerate and destroy the construction.

x = 105, y = 46, rule = B3/S23
3$8bo$9b2o$8b2o8$18bo$19b2o$18b2o41bo29bo$62b2o28b2o$22b2o37b2o28b2o$
22bo$23b3o39b2o28b2o$25bo39bo29bo$66b3o27b3o$18b3o47bo29bo$20bo41bo29b
2o$19bo42b2o27bobo$61bobo29bo8$52bo$52b2o$51bobo!

People keep saying that, but luckily it just ain't so. The three cases you mention all have the input signal in the right place (that's the one from the southwest, that destroys the eater). But the TEST signal, the one from the northwest, is one lane too far west. If no signal glider has come in, that TEST glider should be cleanly absorbed by the eater. In your cases that glider is actually on the rebuild lane, so the eater gets destroyed.

The confusion happens because the two synchronized gliders that rebuild the eater are both on very slightly different lanes from the input signals. I shouldn't have left those two red-marked glider locations in there -- though it made sense to me at the time, since those are the two synchronized gliders that rebuild the eater. Won't make that mistake again on the rebuild.

There is in fact only one case where knocking out the eater at the wrong time can cause a problem. For that case you need another eater that's hiding nearby looking useless. Here's the key reaction in context:

x = 14, y = 39, rule = LifeHistory
7.A$5.3A$4.A$5.A$4.2A3.2A$6.2A2.A$4.2A2.2A$5.A.A$4.A2.A$5.2A2$2.A$A.A
$.2A4$6.2A$6.A$7.3A$9.A2$.3A$3.A$2.A3$10.2A$10.A$4.2A5.3A$3.A2.A6.A$
4.A.A$3.2A2.2A$5.2A2.A$3.2A3.2A$4.A$3.A$4.3A$6.A!

EDIT: M.I. Wright pointed out that a block works as well as an eater to suppress that one bad reaction. That allows the syringe to be moved six diagonals closer to the blocking eater.

I tried rebuilding the circuit, but naturally the first draft still ended up bigger and slower than the original:

x = 157, y = 175, rule = LifeHistory
76.2A$75.A.A$69.2A4.A$60.3B4.A2.A2.2A.4A$59.4B4.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$58.4B8.
A.ABABAB$57.4B9.A.AB2AB$56.4B11.AB.2B$55.4B15.3B$54.4B16.4B6.2A$53.4B
15.3B2AB6.A$52.4B16.3B2AB3.BA.A$51.4B15.10B.B2A$50.4B15.13B$49.4B15.
14B$48.4B15.15B$47.4B15.4B2.8B$28.2A16.4B16.3B5.6B$21.2A3.2B2AB14.4B
17.2B4.9B$20.B2AB2.4B14.4B18.B5.2A4.4B$21.2B3.6B.B9.4B15.B10.A5.4B$
22.2B2.10B6.4B15.2B7.3A7.4B$21.2B2A11B5.B2DB4.A10.3B7.A10.4B$18.B.3B
2A12B3.2BDB5.3A7.4B$17.2A18B2.BDBD9.A5.4B$17.2AB.15B2.2B2D9.2A4.4B$
18.B3.19B10.9B6.2A$22.18B13.6B7.A$23.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$23.35B4.A2.
A$24.7B.27B3.B2A$24.6B2.16B2A14B$23.7B.17B2A13B$23.6B.32B$24.9B7.2B.B
.17B$24.8B7.3B4.15B$23.8B4.2A.2BA5.15B$14.A8.7B5.A.2BA.A5.13B$14.3A6.
6B7.A2.BA.A2.13B$17.A4.2B3D2B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B2.A$16.2A4.4BD2B6.A.4A2.A
B2A6.6B2.3A$16.4B.4B3DB5.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B5.A$18.11B5.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.
B4.2A$17.12B6.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B5.3B$17.12B14.A.A9.B2AB6.B$17.11B16.A11.
2A$18.7B$11.2A5.8B$12.A6.8B$12.A.AB2.8B$13.2AB.10B$15.12B$15.12B$15.
9B2.B2A$16.8B2.BA.A$13.2B2.8B4.A$12.4B.8B4.2A$7.C4.14B$6.2BC3.B2A11B$
6.3CB.2B2A11B$7.18B$8.15B$9.15B$10.15B$11.14B$11.13B7.A$12.14B3.3A9.
2D.D$14.12B2.A10.D6.D$15.12B2.A$16.12B2A3.2A3.D5.E2.D$17.11B2.2A2.A7.
3E2.D$18.10B2A2.2A4.D2.E91.B$18.8B.B.A.A6.D2.2E4.D85.2B$19.6B3.A2.A
101.3B$20.5B4.2A8.D6.D86.4B7.2A$21.5B15.D.2D89.4B5.B2AB$22.5B108.4B5.
3B$23.5B108.4B3.B.B$24.5B108.4B.6B$25.5B108.10B7.2A$26.5B99.2A7.9B7.A
$27.5B36.A46.A15.A8.10B2.BA.A$27.3B2AB35.3A42.3A15.A.AB6.10B.B2A$28.
2BA3B37.A28.A11.A19.2AB.3B2.12B$28.3B3AB35.2A4.2B22.3A9.2A20.19B$27.
6BA2B30.B3.8B25.A9.B20.19B$26.6B.4B27.4B4.7B11.2A10.2A9.3B19.18B$25.
5B4.4B25.6B.9B12.A10.5B5.6B16.19B$24.5B6.4B10.A13.6B.10B11.A.AB9.4B3.
10B11.19B.B2A$23.5B8.4B7.3A12.19B11.2AB.3B4.6B2.11B3.2B2.21B2.BA.A$
22.5B4.2A4.4B5.A14.19B14.7B.9BD3B2A15BD16B6.A$21.5B5.2A5.4B4.2A13.17B
16.17B2D2B2A15BDBD13B7.2A$39.9B14.15B18.17B2D18B3D4B.8B$19.3C7.6A5.6B
14.17B17.18BD21BD4B3.6B$21.C7.A5.A5.6B3.B2.2B2.22B13.19BD26B5.5B$20.C
11.2A2.A4.19BD21B3.2B2.19B.B3.13B.4B13.4B$31.A2.2AB3.6BD13BDBD4B.24BD
15B5.7B.B4.4B13.B2A2B$15.5B11.2A2.9BDBD2B2A9B3D4B2.23BDBD4B.7B18.4B
15.2A$14.4B18.9B2D2B2A11BD4B2.23B3D4B2.7B$13.4B20.29B4.24BD4B4.2B2A$
12.4B21.17B.4B10.29B3.4B2A$11.5B22.15B4.3B10.16B.4B10.2A$10.5B5.2A16.
15B5.A2B.2A6.12B5.3B12.A$9.7B3.A2.A16.13B5.A.A2B.A6.9B6.4B10.3A$8.9B.
B.A.A18.13B2.A.AB2.A6.11B5.2A12.A$7.12B2A2.2A15.8B4.2A.A.A3.A8.7B.B2A
5.A$6.13B2.2A2.A14.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A8.4B2.BA.A.3A$5.14B2A3.2A14.5B8.B2.A
.A3.A.A6.B2A2B5.A.A$4.14B2.A19.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A7.2A7.2A$3.4B.9B2.A
21.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A$2.15B3.3A17.B2AB9.A.A$.14B7.A18.2A11.A$16B$2.14B$2.
13B$3.11B$2.14B$2.2B2A11B$3.B2A11B$3.14B$3.4B.8B4.2A$4.2B2.8B4.A$7.8B
2.BA.A$6.9B2.B2A$6.12B$6.12B$4.2AB.10B$3.A.AB2.8B$3.A6.8B$2.2A5.8B$9.
7B$8.11B16.A11.2A$8.12B14.A.A9.B2AB$8.12B6.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$9.11B5.A.A
2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$7.4B.4B3DB5.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$7.2A4.4BD2B6.A.4A2.AB2A6.
6B$8.A4.2B3D2B8.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$5.3A6.6B7.A2.BA.A2.13B$5.A8.7B5.A.2BA.A
5.13B$14.8B4.2A.2BA5.15B$15.8B7.3B4.15B$15.9B7.2B.B.17B$14.6B.32B$14.
7B.5BD11B2A13B$15.6B2.4B3D9B2A14B$15.7B.4BDBD20B3.B2A2.2A$14.15BD19B
4.A2.A2.A$14.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.2A$13.18B13.6B5.A.A$9.B3.19B10.9B4.A.
A$8.2AB.15B2.2B2D9.2A4.3B5.A$8.2A18B2.BDBD9.A5.2B.B6.A$9.B.3B2A12B3.
2BDB5.3A7.B.2B5.3A7.4B$12.2B2A11B5.B2DB4.A11.3B7.A5.4B$13.2B2.10B6.4B
15.4B5.2A4.4B$12.2B3.6B.B9.4B15.4B4.9B$11.B2AB2.4B14.4B15.4B5.6B$12.
2A3.2B2AB14.4B15.4B2.8B$19.2A16.4B15.15B$38.4B15.14B$39.4B15.13B$40.
4B15.10B.B2A$41.4B15.4B2AB3.BA.A$42.4B15.3B2AB6.A$62.5B6.2A$63.4B$60.
AB.5B$59.A.AB2A3B$59.A.ABABA2B$56.2A.A.A.A.A.BA$56.A2.A2.2A.4A$58.2A
4.A$64.A.A$65.2A!

EDIT2: Argh! One tick slower than the original now -- the drive gun could be p1178. Luckily there are still all kinds of improvements left to be tried:

x = 452, y = 424, rule = LifeHistory
2.C$C.C$.2C265$417.2A$416.A.A$410.2A4.A$408.A2.A2.2A.4A$408.2A.A.A.A.
A2.A$411.A.ABABAB$411.A.AB2AB$412.AB.2B$415.3B$415.4B6.2A$413.3B2AB6.
A$411.5B2AB3.BA.A$411.10B.B2A$410.13B$409.14B$408.15B$407.4B2.8B$407.
3B5.6B$407.2B4.9B$407.B5.2A4.4B$414.A5.4B$411.3A7.4B$411.A10.4B$423.
4B$424.4B10.2A$425.4B9.A$426.4B10.A$296.C123.2A5.5B4.5A$297.C123.A5.
5B3.A$295.3C123.A.AB.7B2.B3A$422.2AB.7B3.2B.A$424.12B4A$424.7B2A3BAB
2.2A$423.8B2A2B.B3A2.A$422.12B3.B.A.2A$421.10B8.A$387.B34.9B7.2A$386.
2B33.4B2.3B$332.A52.3B32.4B3.5B$305.5B22.3A50.3B42.2A$304.9B22.A11.A
37.2B43.A$304.10B20.2A9.3A34.B2.B45.3A$300.AB2.10B20.B9.A36.2B50.A$
299.A.A11B19.3B9.2A10.2A22.3B$299.2A13B16.6B5.5B10.A22.4B$302.14B11.
10B3.4B9.BA.A21.4B$299.2A18B2.2B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A10.A10.4B$299.A.AB.
11BD15B2A3BD9B.7B12.3A7.4B$300.AB3.3B.4BDBD15B2A2B2D17B15.A5.4B$306.B
2.4B3D18B2D17B15.2A4.4B$309.4BD21BD18B14.9B6.2A$310.26BD20B13.6B7.A$
317.18B3.B.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$319.4B3.B.7B7.13BD19B4.A2.A$322.2B18.
6B.4BDBD20B3.B2A$322.3B15.5B.B2.4B3D9B2A14B$322.4B14.2A7.4BD11B2A13B$
323.4B14.A8.29B$324.4B10.3A16.4B.17B9.2A10.4B$325.4B9.A17.5B2.15B11.A
9.4B$326.4B22.2A.2BA.2B2.15B9.A10.4B$327.4B21.A.2BA.A5.13B10.5A5.4B5.
2A$328.4B21.A2.BA.A2.13B17.A4.4B5.A$329.4B21.A3.A.A.2A4.8B13.3AB2.7B.
BA.A$330.4B18.A.4A2.AB2A6.7B11.A.2B3.7B.B2A$331.4B16.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B
12.4A12B$332.4B15.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B10.2A2.BA3B2A7B$332.2BD2B15.A3.2A
2.A.A9.3B10.A2.3AB.2B2A7B$333.2B2DB22.A.A9.B2AB9.2A.A.B3.10B$334.2D3B
22.A11.2A13.A8.8B$335.5B48.2A7.9B7.2A$336.5B36.A20.3B2.4B5.B2AB$336.
6B35.3A16.5B3.4B5.3B$337.6B37.A15.2A7.4B3.B.B$337.7B35.2A4.2B10.A8.4B
.6B$336.9B30.B3.8B7.3A10.10B8.2A$335.B3D2B.4B27.4B4.7B6.A4.2A7.12B3.
2B2AB6.2A$334.4BD4.4B25.6B.9B12.A8.12B2.11BA$333.4BD6.4B10.A13.6B.10B
11.A.AB6.22BA.A$332.5B8.4B7.3A12.19B11.2AB.3B2.22B2A$331.5B4.2A4.4B5.
A14.19B14.29B10.A$330.5B5.2A5.4B4.2A13.17B16.29B8.3A$329.5B14.9B14.
15B18.28B7.A$328.3DB6.6A5.6B14.17B17.29B7.2A$328.2BD7.A5.A5.6B3.B2.2B
2.22B13.32B3.5B$329.D11.2AB.A4.19BD21B3.2B2.20B.2B2.11B2.3B$340.A2.2A
B3.6BD13BDBD4B.24BD15B2.B3.BAB.B3.9B7.2A$340.2A2.9BDBD2B2A9B3D4B2.23B
DBD4B.7B7.A.A.2A3.8B8.A$345.9B2D2B2A11BD4B2.23B3D4B2.6B5.3A.ABA5.10B
3.B.A.2A$346.29B4.24BD4B3.6B3.A3.A4.A3.7B2A2B.B3A2.A$346.14B18.29B6.
4B4.A2.A.4A3.7B2A3BAB2.2A$347.13B19.16B.4B12.B2A2B5.A.A.A6.12B4A$347.
13B19.12B5.3B14.2A.B2A4.A3.A3.2AB.7B3.2B.A$348.12B6.A3.2A7.9B6.4B18.B
A.A4.4A2.A.AB.7B2.B3A$350.10B5.A.A3.A6.11B5.2A23.A10.A5.4B4.A$349.8B
4.2A.A.A3.A8.7B.B2A5.A23.2A3.2A3.2A5.4B5.5A$349.6B6.2A.A4.A11.4B2.BA.
A.3A29.2A9.4B10.A$349.5B11.5A.A8.B2A2B5.A.A41.4B9.A$349.B.B5.2A.A.2A.
A4.2A9.2A7.2A41.4B10.2A$350.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A63.4B$349.B2AB11.2A.A.3A
59.4B$350.2A19.A58.4B$309.5B115.4B$308.5B31.A19.2A63.3B$307.5B32.3A.A
.2A11.B2AB62.2B$306.5B36.2A.A2.A.2A.A4.3B$306.5B18.A14.2A4.A.2A.A.2A
5.B.B$306.5B18.3A12.A.5A11.5B$303.9B20.A13.A4.A.2A6.6B$302.10B19.2A
12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$301.11B19.4B9.A3.A.A5.10B$300.13B20.3B8.2A3.A6.12B$
299.15B18.4B20.13B$298.16B8.2A8.5B10.5B2.15B$297.4B.11B9.A8.6B11.4B.
17B$296.3B4.12B4.BA.A8.8B2.29B$295.4B4.15B.B2A8.14BD11B2A13B$294.4B5.
17B11.13B3D9B2A14B$293.4B6.17B12.7B.4BDBD20B3.B2A$292.4B4.B.17B12.15B
D19B4.A2.A$291.4B4.2A19B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$291.3B5.2AB.20B7.18B
13.6B7.A$291.2B7.B4.20B2.2B.15B14.9B6.2A$291.B13.16BD22B15.2A4.3BD$
305.9B.4BDBD13B.8B16.A5.DBDB$306.7B2.4B3D9B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.2D2B$306.7B
2.4BD11B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A10.4B$306.6B4.18B10.A24.4B$306.7B13.B.3B.B12.
3A22.4B$306.6B35.A23.4B$305.7B60.4B$306.5B16.2A44.4B23.4B$308.3B16.A
46.4B21.4B$308.5B15.3A44.4B19.4B$308.2B20.A45.4B6.A10.4B$309.2A66.4B
5.3A7.4B$309.2A67.4B7.A5.4B$379.4B5.2A4.4B$380.4B4.9B$381.4B5.6B$382.
4B2.8B$383.15B$384.14B$385.13B$386.10B.B2A$386.5B2AB3.BA.A$388.3B2AB
6.A$390.4B6.2A$390.3B$387.AB.2B$386.A.AB2AB$386.A.ABABAB$383.2A.A.A.A
.A2.A$383.A2.A2.2A.4A$385.2A4.A$391.A.A$392.2A!

Really the only problem is that we've only classified some of the known H-to-2Gs, so we only know about one single H-to-2G with an "Oo0" classification -- and that one just happens to put out both output gliders on the wrong color (relative to the Herschel).

So there's an entire wasted conduit in the middle there, the F116, with no purpose other than to fix that color problem. And of course, if you unnecessarily go out an F116-width, then you have to waste about the same amount of time getting back again, and the total goes over a thousand.

That means it's (still, again) time to make a bigger stamp collection and classify the rest of the H-to-2Gs, to find another Oo0 with the other output color. Until today I didn't realize that there's a separate category of Oo0's for each color of the output gliders.

-- Getting pretty far afield here now, though -- apologies for hijacking a perfectly good p30 thread. Further universal regulator discussion will show up on the Stable universal regulator thread.
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby Jormungant » October 1st, 2017, 9:26 am

Well, I guess I did invert the test and signal channel indeed, and so there is only 1 degenerate case, and it is perfectly accounted for by carefully placed block.

dvgrn wrote:-- Getting pretty far afield here now, though -- apologies for hijacking a perfectly good p30 thread. Further universal regulator discussion will show up on the Stable universal regulator thread.


No worries, I can fix that. Here is a P30->P1 regulator, which has repeat time 124 and is shown here driven by a p127 gun:

x = 261, y = 225, rule = LifeHistory
64.2A24.A$63.B2AB23.3A$63.4B26.A$64.2B26.2A$62.2A3B25.4B$62.2A5B25.3B
$49.2A11.8B24.4B$50.A6.2B5.6B25.4B26.A44.A$50.A.AB2.6B.9B24.4B23.3A
44.3A$51.2AB.B.17B23.4B21.A30.2A18.A$47.2A4.24B21.4B20.2A30.A17.2A4.B
$46.B2AB2.3BA23B20.4B17.4B17.A11.A18.8B$47.3B2.2B3A23B20.4B15.3B19.3A
9.2A19.8B$46.B.B2.2B2A2BA24B19.2B2A14.4B21.A9.B18.9B$45.12B2A25B5.7B.
B4.BABA12.5B8.2A10.2A9.3B15.12B.2A.A$45.7BA3BABA20B.4B5.13B.A3B11.6B
8.A10.5B5.4BAB12.14BA.2A$43.13B2A18B2A36B2.8B8.A.AB9.4B3.B2A3BAB2A8.
15B$43.7BA4B2A15B2.BA2BA40B3A3B8.2AB.3B4.6B2.B2A4B3AB3.2B.15B$44.4B3A
3B2A14B4.B3A41BA2BAB11.7B.11B2A2B2A25B$43.7BA4B2A11B6.2B2A13B2A22B.2B
A4B12.19B3A6B2A21B$44.12B2A9B8.16B2A25BA4BA12.20BA3BA3B2A14B.B2AB2A$
46.B.4BA3BABA7B10.B2.19B3.2B2.18BA11.19BABA3B2AB2A15B2.A3.A$47.10B2A
5B15.2B3.B2.10B11.17B8.22BA4B4A15B4.3A$46.4B.2B2A2BA5B17.AB6.6B16.10B
A4B.2B2.19B.B3.BA11B.4B9.A.A$45.4B.4B3A5B13.2A2.A.A7.3B19.9BA26B7.7B.
4B.4B10.2A$44.4B.6BA4B15.A3.2A8.B21.8B.B3A16B.6B14.4B.4B$43.4B.11B13.
BA.A12.2A19.8B3.20B2.B.5B11.4B.4B$42.4B.10B12.B.BA.A13.A20.2A3.B5.20B
7.2A10.4B.4B$41.4B.4B3.B.B12.2A3BA15.A20.A10.18B8.A10.4B.4B$40.4B.4B
3.3B13.2AB.3B13.2A17.3A12.B.3B.4B16.3A6.ABAB.4B$39.4B.4B4.B2AB13.B3.
2B32.A19.4B19.A5.B2AB.4B$38.4B.4B6.2A17.4B50.4B25.3BA.4B$37.4B.4B25.
3AB50.4B25.4B.4B$36.4B.4B25.3BA50.4B25.4B.4B$35.4B.4B25.3BA50.4B25.4B
.4B$34.2A2B.4B25.4B50.4B25.4B.4B$33.ABAB.4B25.4B50.4B25.4B.4B$32.3BA.
4B25.4B50.4B25.4B.4B$31.4B.4B25.4B50.4B25.4B.A3B$30.4B.4B25.4B50.4B
25.4B.BABA$29.4B.4B25.4B50.4B25.4B.2B2A$28.4B.4B25.4B50.A3B25.4B.4B$
27.4B.4B25.4B50.A3B25.4B.4B$26.4B.4B25.4B50.B3A25.4B.4B$25.4B.A3B25.
4B50.4B17.2A6.4B.4B$24.4B.B2AB5.A19.4B19.A32.2B3.B13.B2AB4.4B.4B$23.
4B.BABA6.3A16.4B.3B.B12.3A17.2A13.3B.B2A13.3B3.4B.4B$22.4B.4B10.A8.
18B10.A20.A15.A3B2A12.B.B3.4B.4B$21.4B.4B10.2A7.20B5.B3.2A20.A13.A.AB
.B12.10B.4B$20.4B.4B11.5B.B2.20B3.8B19.2A12.A.AB13.11B.4B$19.4B.4B14.
6B.16B3AB.8B21.B8.2A3.A15.4BA6B.4B$6.2A10.4B.4B.7B7.26BA9B19.3B7.A.A
2.2A13.5B3A4B.4B$5.A.A9.4B.11BAB3.B.19B2.2B.4BA10B16.6B6.BA17.5BA2B2A
2B.4B$3.3A4.15B4A4BA22B8.17B11.10B2.B3.2B15.5B2A10B$2.A3.A2.15B2AB2A
3BABA19B11.A18B2.2B3.19B2.B10.7BABA3BA4B.B$2.2AB2AB.14B2A3BA3BA20B12.
A4BA25B2A16B8.9B2A12B$3.21B2A6B3A19B12.4BA2B.22B2A13B2A2B6.11B2A4BA7B
$4.25B2A2B2A11B.7B11.BA2BA41B3AB4.14B2A3B3A4B$5.15B.2B3.B3A4B2AB2.6B
4.3B.B2A8.3B3A40BA2BAB2.15B2A4BA7B$4.15B8.2ABA3B2AB3.4B9.BA.A8.8B2.
36B2A18B2A13B$2A.A14B12.BA4B5.5B10.A8.6B11.3BA.13B5.4B.20BABA3BA7B$A.
2A.12B15.3B9.2A10.2A8.5B12.ABAB4.B.7B5.25B2A12B$7.9B18.B9.A21.4B14.2A
2B19.24BA2B2A2B2.B.B$7.8B19.2A9.3A19.3B15.4B20.23B3A2B2.3B$9.8B18.A
11.A17.4B17.4B20.23BA3B2.B2AB$10.B4.2A17.A30.2A20.4B21.24B4.2A$15.A
18.2A30.A21.4B23.17B.B.B2A$16.3A44.3A23.4B24.9B.6B2.BA.A$18.A44.A26.
4B25.6B5.2B6.A$91.4B24.8B11.2A$92.4B24.5B2A$93.4B25.3B2A$94.4B25.2B$
95.4B23.4B$96.4B22.B2AB$97.4B22.2A$98.4B$99.4B$100.4B$101.4B$102.4B$
103.4B$104.4B$105.4B$106.4B$107.4B$108.4B$109.4B$110.4B$111.4B$112.4B
$113.4B$114.BABA$115.B2AB$116.A3B$117.4B$118.4B$119.4B$120.4B$121.4B$
122.4B$123.4B$124.4B$125.4B$126.4B$127.4B$128.4B$129.4B$130.4B$131.4B
46.A$132.4B45.3A$133.4B47.A$134.4B45.2A$135.4B44.5B$136.4B45.4B$137.
4B43.5B$138.4B42.6B$139.4B40.B2A3B$140.4B39.B2A4B$141.4B38.7B$142.4B
36.8B$143.4B35.7B$144.4B34.7B$145.3BA22.2A8.8B$146.3BA22.A8.9B$147.3A
B21.A.AB4.10B$148.4B10.A10.2AB.14B$149.4B7.3A12.17B$150.4B5.A15.17B$
151.4B4.2A15.15B$144.2A6.9B14.16B$145.A7.6B14.19B$145.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B
2.21B$146.A2.A4.19BC17B$147.2AB3.20BCBC4B.9B$148.14B2A9B3C4B2.8B$144.
B4.13B2A11BC4B2.8B$150.29B2.8B$150.17B.4B9.8B5.B$151.15B3.4B7.9B4.3B$
151.15B3.3B8.16B$152.13B5.A2B.2A3.18B$154.13B2.A.A2B.A2.12B3A4B$153.
8B4.2A.A.AB2.A3.11BA2BA5B$153.6B6.2ABA4.A4.10BABDCBA3B3.5BA4.B$153.5B
8.B2.5A.A2.11BCBD2A10BABA6B$153.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A2.11BCA2BA8BA3B2A
4B$154.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A13.2BABA9BA3B2A3B2A$153.B2AB11.2A.A.2A14.3B
ABA8BA3B2AB.B2A$154.2A34.14BABAB4.B$190.9B.5BA$189.2A2B3.4B$188.ABAB
5.4B$187.3BA7.4B$186.4B9.4B$185.4B11.4B$176.7B.4B13.4B23.B4.2BABAB$
176.11B15.BABA20.8BA2BA3B$177.9B17.B2AB19.7B2A8B2.A.5BA$177.4B3A2B18.
A3B17.2A4B2A3BA8BA5BABAB4.B$178.5BAB20.4B16.2AB.4B2A6B.2BA6B2ABA2B.B
2A$178.4BA2B21.4B16.B4.3BA2BA2B2A9B2AB2A3B2A$178.4B25.4B22.2BABA2BA2B
3A5B2ABA5B$177.4B27.4B26.2B4A7BABA6B$176.4B29.2BAB24.4B2AB3.5BA4.B$
158.B4.A5B3.A2BA3B31.2B2A22.4B$156.6BABA10BA2B33.2A2B20.4B$156.4B2A3B
A5B2A3BA2BA3B29.4B18.4B$155.2A3B2A3BA4BABAB2A3B4A2B4.B23.4B14.3BA3B$
155.2AB.B2A3BA8B.5B4A3B.B2A23.4B13.B2A4B$156.B4.BABA5B2A8BA2BA5B2A24.
4B11.3B2A4B$163.A5B.B2.7B4A6B26.4B10.9B$175.4B4A7B27.4B8.11B$177.2BA
3B4.B30.4B6.4B.7B$218.5B4.4B$216.8B2.4B$215.10BABAB$214.6B.4B2AB$213.
4B2A7BA$213.4B2A7B$218.B.5B3.2B$220.5B3.2B$215.11B.4B3.A$214.5BA12B3A
$214.3B2A10B2.A$214.4B2A3B2.6B2A$202.A11.8B4.3B3AB$202.3A9.7B4.3BABA$
205.A7.4B7.4BABAB$204.2A6.4B7.6BA3B$204.5B2.4B7.4B.6B$206.8B7.4B.7B$
205.8B7.ABAB2.2ABAB2A$205.7B7.B2AB3.A5BA$205.6B7.3BA4.BA3BAB$204.7B6.
4B5.2B3A2B$204.6B6.4B6.7B$204.6B5.4B8.5B8.B$203.6B5.4B9.5B8.2B$202.8B
3.4B10.4B9.3B$201.4B2.4B2.BAB11.4B9.4B$200.4B4.7B11.4B11.4B$199.4B6.
4BA13.4B11.4B$198.4B8.4B13.2B2AB11.4B$197.4B10.4B14.2A13.B$196.4B12.
4B$195.4B14.4B$194.4B16.4B$193.4B18.4B4.5B$192.4B20.B3A2.5B$191.4B22.
A3B.4B$190.4B24.A6B$189.4B26.5B$188.BA2B28.4B$187.2A2B30.4B$186.2B2A
32.4B$185.4B34.2B2A3B3.3B2AB4.B$184.4B36.BABA7BABA8B$183.4B32.A5BA8BA
6B2A3B$182.4B26.B4.BABA13BA2BA2BA2BAB2A$181.4B26.2AB.2BAB2A6B.6BA6B2A
.B2A$180.2A2B27.2A3B2AB2A14BABA3B4.B$179.A.AB29.5BAB2A8B2.B.3B2AB$
179.A32.6BABA6B$178.2A34.B4.A5B!


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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby dvgrn » October 1st, 2017, 10:02 am

Jormungant wrote:No worries, I can fix that. Here is a P30->P1 regulator, which has repeat time 124 and is shown here driven by a p127 gun...

Thanks for coming to the rescue. But I bet there's a way to make it smaller...

Where do you buy your glider guns from, by the way? That p127 is definitely a nice retro holdover from the Steampunk Era, if not the Pleistocene. In these modern times it would look something like this:

x = 162, y = 143, rule = LifeHistory
41.A11.2A$40.A.A9.B2AB$32.A3.2A2.A.A9.3B$31.A.A2.A2.2A.2A9.B.B$17.2A
12.A.A3.A.A2.B8.5B$18.A13.A.4A2.AB2A6.6B$18.A.AB12.A3.A.A.2A4.8B$19.
2AB.B9.A2.BA.A2.13B$21.4B7.A.2BA.A5.13B$21.4B7.2A.2BA5.15B$5.2A14.5B
10.3B4.15B$3.2B2AB12.6B11.2B.B.17B$3.4B13.8B2.29B$2.4B13.12BAB3A9B2A
13B$3.4B13.9B2ABA3BA8B2A14B$.7B13.7B.BA4B2A19B3.B2A$.7B12.11B4ABA18B
4.A2.A$2A7B11.19B2.2B2.B3.6B5.2A.A$2A9B8.17B14.6B7.A$.B.11B2.2B.15B
14.9B6.2A$4.29B15.2A4.4B$4.20B.8B16.A5.2B2A$4.16B2A2B3.8B11.3A7.BABA$
4.16B2A2B5.B3.2A11.A10.A3B$5.18B10.A24.4B$12.4B.3B.B12.3A22.4B$13.4B
19.A23.4B$14.4B43.4B$15.2BAB42.4B$16.2B2A41.2BA2B$17.2A2B39.2BABA4B$
18.4B38.2BA2BA3B$19.4B37.4BA4B$20.4B35.10B$21.4B33.10B2A$22.4B22.2A8.
9BA2BA$23.4B22.A9.8BABA$24.4B21.A.AB4.11BA$25.4B10.A10.2AB.10B3A2B$
26.4B7.3A12.12B2A3B$27.4B5.A15.17B$28.4B4.2A15.17B.B$21.2A6.9B14.19B
2A$22.A7.6B14.19B.B2A$22.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B2.20B4.B$23.A2.A4.36B$24.2AB
3.27B.9B$25.15BA16B2.7B40.A$26.12B3A16B2.7B40.3A$27.9BA4BA14B4.6B43.A
$27.9BABA5B.B.2B10.7B42.2A$28.8BA6B4.3B10.6B42.5B$28.15B5.A2B.2A6.7B
43.4B$29.13B5.A.A2B.A7.5B43.5B$31.13B2.A.AB2.A8.6B42.6B$30.8B4.2A.A.A
3.A7.9B40.B2A3B$30.6B6.2ABA2.4A.A5.2A.7B39.B2A4B$30.5B8.B2.A.A3.A.A5.
A5.4B38.7B$30.B.B9.2A.2A2.A2.A.A2.3A7.4B36.8B$31.3B9.A.A2.2A3.A3.A10.
3BA35.7B$30.B2AB9.A.A23.3BA34.7B$31.2A11.A25.3AB22.2A8.8B$71.4B22.A8.
9B$72.4B21.A.AB4.10B$73.4B10.A10.2AB.14B$74.4B7.3A12.17B$75.4B5.A15.
17B$76.4B4.2A15.15B$69.2A6.9B14.16B$70.A7.6B14.19B$70.A.2A5.6B3.B2.2B
2.21B31.2A$71.A2.A4.11B2A3BA20B29.A2BAB$72.2AB3.10B3A4B2A8B.9B30.4B$
73.14BA8B2A7B2.8B29.A3B$74.13BABA2B5A8B2.8B30.4B$75.13BA3B3A9B2.8B31.
2A2B$75.17B.4B9.8B5.B25.2BA2B$76.15B3.2B9.9B4.3B24.5B$76.15B3.3B8.16B
23.7B$77.13B5.A2B.2A3.18B22.2A3B2A$79.13B2.A.A2B.A2.19B22.2A3B2A$78.
8B4.2A.A.AB2.A3.20B21.B5AB$78.6B6.2ABA4.A4.12B2C5B3.3BA2B4.B8.2BABA2B
$78.5B8.B2.5A.A2.11BCBC11BABA7B6.7B$78.B.B5.2A.A.2A.A4.A.A2.11BC15B2A
5B7.B3AB$79.3B4.A.2A.A2.A.2A2.A13.17B2A4B2A6.6B$78.B2AB11.2A.A.2A14.
7BA9B2A2B.B2A6.5B$79.2A34.7BA5BABA2B4.B6.6B$115.5B3AB.3BA2B13.7B$114.
4B3.4B19.4B.2B$113.2A2B5.4B18.A7B$112.2B2A7.4B16.A8B$111.2BAB9.4B14.B
3A7B$93.B4.4B2A3.7B11.4B12.4B.3BA3B$91.10BA3BA7B13.3BA10.4B2.2B3A2B$
91.9BA5BA7BA3B9.ABAB8.4B3.B5AB$90.2A8BA3BAB2A4BABA5B4.B3.2A2B6.4B4.2A
3B2A$90.2AB.6BA5BA2B.2A10B.B2A3.4B4.4B5.7B$91.B4.5BA3BA4B2A12B2A4.4B
2.A3B7.5B$98.4B2A.B2.2B2A13B6.3B.BABA8.5B$110.2BABA10B3.2B.5B2A10.3AB
$112.2BA3B4.B4.2A8B11.3AB$127.2A7B13.4B$128.B.5B13.4B$117.A12.5B12.B
2A2B$117.3A9.5BAB8.A3.2A$120.A7.4B.2B2A5.3A$119.2A6.4B3.2A2B3.A$119.
5B2.4B5.4B2.2A$121.8B7.7B$120.8B7.4BAB$120.2BA4B7.4BABA$120.B3A2B7.4B
A3BA$119.BA2B2AB6.4B.5A$119.B3A2B6.4B.2A3B2A$119.6B5.4B2.B5AB$118.6B
5.4B3.2B3A2B$117.8B3.4B4.3BA3B$116.4B2.4B2.3B5.7B$115.4B4.7B6.7B$114.
A3B6.5B8.5B$113.A3B8.4B8.5B$112.B3A10.3BA7.4B$111.4B12.B2AB6.4B$110.
4B14.ABAB4.4B$109.4B16.4B4.4B$108.4B18.4B3.2B2AB$107.4B20.4B4.2A$106.
4B22.4B$105.4B24.4B$104.4B26.2B2A$103.4B28.2A2B$102.4B30.BA2B$101.4B
32.4B$100.4B34.7B3.B2A3B4.B$99.4B36.10BA2BA8B$98.4B32.5BA3B3A7BA7B$
97.4B26.B4.6B5A3BA6BA6B2A$97.3B26.2AB.7B2AB2A.2BA7BA4B.B2A$95.2AB28.
2A8B3AB2A3BA3BA2BA3B4.B$94.A.AB29.10B2AB4A2.B.B2A3B$94.A32.11B4A$93.
2A34.B4.5BA!

That one is p125, but p127 is just the same loop one diagonal step bigger.
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Re: triller's p30 thread

Postby triller » October 8th, 2017, 2:35 pm

gameoflifemaniac wrote:How about a fibonacci generator with display like the Collatz one? I tried to assemble the decoder and the fibonacci generator, but it didn't work.

One thing I see that I failed to mention about the BCD converter is that it does not accept a zero argument agreeably. The nibbler that determines input length needs a non-zero value to trigger properly. No problem with a Collatz sequence which ends in repeating 4:2:1:4:2:1......etc.
As to a Fibonacci generator, the mechanism is fairly straightforward. The formula: N(t) = N(t-1)+N(t-2), indicates that at least one term must be delayed at least one cycle. Given the BCD converter at 7680 gens per nibble, this delay is indefinite, and increases as N(t) grows.
FibonacciPic.jpg
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The mechanism (which should run @ p7680, stand alone) retrofits into the Collatz/BCD engine once the Collatz portion is removed (see below).
In GREEN at top is the existing data rail into the BCD converter: at left a G>LWSS morph2; at right 2 p60 guns configured for p60 LWSS heisenburp; and circled an Elkies LWSS>G, part of the p60 sniper gun which returns LWSSs from the holding loop in the BCD to the data rail. These components are unchanged and identically phased, so should be good markers for aligning the retrofit. One LWSS shown is the first term in the Fib series (N(t)).
Data right to the BCD is burped, data down left in RED to a fanout, up left, g>lwss is N(t-1). Second path down left in BLUE feeds a detector which allows the first data bit through and sets a Rendell latch blocking successive bits. The passed bit continues left then up right to reset another latch, opening the N(t-2) register (and erasing it) shown in ORANGE. Orange data out circles down to one input of a Buckingham adder, in GREY at bottom left. Note here that the 24th term in the Fib series, 46368, is B520 hex. That is, detection of incoming data is 6 bits into the cycle. This delay is taken into account in opening the register for N(t-2). Two p1920 guns finish a cycle, at right resetting the detector, and at left setting the latch and closing the loop for next N(t-2).
Meanwhile, N(t-1) (RED lwss left) is burped; that data down left circles back right in RED to an inverting segment of the register, becoming the next N(t-2). N(t-1) continues left, in VIOLET and delays around to become the second input of the adder. Adder output delays about in the yellow reflectors at left to become the next N(t). This data will either enter the BCD directly, or be diverted into the BCD's holding loop until called for.
Collatz4FibBCD.jpg
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The pic above shows the portions of the Collatz generator to delete from the BCD machine in RED, and the portion to remain in GREEN. Don't forget to delete all of those LWSSs, except the rightmost.
x = 1035, y = 477, rule = B3/S23
900bo$899bobo$882b2o14bo3b2o$882bobo13bo3b2o3b2o$877b2o4b3o12bo3b2o3b
2o$873b4o2bo4b3o12bobo$873b3ob2o4b3o7bo6bo$882bobo9b2o$882b2o9b2o2$
896bo$896b2o$895bobo2$900bobo$901b2o$122b2o756bo7bo12bo$122b2o754bobo
5b4o$870b2o4b2o8b2o2bo2b2o$870b2o4b2o11b2o2b2o$876b2o7bo10b2o$878bobo
4bo10b3o$880bo4bo10b2o$893b2o7b2o$893b2o7bobo$904bo$904b2o2$120b5o$
119bob3obo789bobo$120bo3bo791b2o$121b3o792bo$122bo2$118bo$117b2o$106b
2o8b2o4b2o$106b2o7b3o4b2o$116b2o4b2o792b2o$117b2o795b2ob2o$118bo795b4o
$915b2o3$135b2o58b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o
28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o
13bobo$135b2o12b2o44b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o
28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o28b2o
28b2o14b2o$149b2o780bo$315b2o118b2o118b2o118b2o118b2o118b2o$315b2o118b
2o118b2o118b2o118b2o10b2o106b2o$808bo$315b2o24bobo91b2o118b2o118b2o
118b2o8b3o107b2o$315b2o22bo3bo91b2o118b2o118b2o118b2o8bo109b2o$339bo
19bo$332b2o4bo4bo14b4o$148b3o181b2o5bo12bo4b2obobo3b2o$147bo3bo187bo3b
o3bob2o5b3obo2bo2b2o$146bo5bo188bobo2bob4o5b2obobo$146b2obob2o193b2o2b
2o6b4o$92b2o265bo$93bo851bobo$93bobo8b2o43bo193bo602b2o$94b2o7bobo42bo
bo192bo602bo$102b3o4b2ob3o33bobo$101b3o4bo2b4o34b3o193bo$102b3o4b2o40b
2o$75b2o26bobo45bo$75b2o27b2o46b3o203b2o$154bo196bob2o3b3o560bo$347bo
2bo3bo5b2obo5b2o549bobo$346b2o2bo4bo4bo2bo5b2o549b2obo7b2o$333bo11b2o
5b4o4b2obo544b2o10b2ob2o6bobo$331b2o11b3o7bo3b3o547b2o10b2obob3o6bo$
332b2o11b2o11b2o560bobo2bo2bo2bo2bo7b2o$336b2o8b2o573bo4b2o6bo7b2o$
335bobo9bo583bobo26bobo$335bo595b2o28b2o$334b2o625bo$74b5o839bobo$73bo
b3obo838b2o9bo$74bo3bo840bo7b3o$75b3o848bo$76bo114bo734b2o$190b2o139b
2o$189b2o4b2o133b2o$73b2o113b3o4b2o135bo$74bo114b2o4b2o$71b3o107b2o7b
2o70b2o77b2o567b2o$71bo108bobo8bo71bo78bo568bo7b2o$131bo48bo82bobo5bo
70bobo8b2o553b3o7bobo84bo$130bobo46b2o15bo67b2o4bobo70b2o7bobo553bo11b
o54bobo27b2o$129bo3b2o60b3o70b2o3bo9b2o66b3o12bo609b2o22b2o4b2o13b2o$
129bo3b2o3b2o54bo3bo69b2o3bo9b2o65b3o8b2o3b4o606bo19b2o2b2o4b3o11b3o3b
o$129bo3b2o3b2o53bob3obo68b2o3bo77b3o8b2o3b4o5b2o530b2o86b2o2b2o4b2o9b
ob2o5bo$119b2o9bobo61b5o71bobo60b2o17bobo2b2obob2o3bo2bo5b2o530bo96b2o
10bo2bo4bo$118bobo10bo28b2o109bo45bo15b2o18b2o2b2obobo4b4o525b2o8bobo
96bo11bob2o$118bo41bo10bo143b3o41b2obo3b4o526b3o7b2o101bo10b3o5b2o$
117b2o38b2obo5b4obo142bo51bo515bo15b2obo109bo9b2o5bobo$157bob2ob2o2bo
5bo141b2o30b2o532bobo4b3o8bo2bo105bo2bo19bo$162bo5b2ob2o172b2o526b2o4b
obo16b2obo104bo23b2o$162bob4obobo140bo34bo4bo520b2o3bo2bo7bo2b2o2b3o
107bo$163bo3bobobo112bo26b3o36b2o527bobo7bo3bo2b2o109bo$164bo3bobo111b
3o25bo3bo36b2o527bobo6bo2bo$163b2o4bo111bo27bob3obo566bo8b2o11b2o96bo$
281b2o27b5o588bobo95bo$196b2o156bo10bo539bo84bobo8b3o10bo2bo8bo$196b2o
155b2o9b2o625b2o21bo10bobo$348bo4bobo7b2o4b2o2b2o525bo90bo18bo2bo3b2o
5bo3b2o3b2o$213b2o131bobo13b3o4b2o2b2o523bobo106b4o3b2obobo4bo3b2o3b2o
$213bo125b2o4bobo15b2o4b2o528b2o105b4o14bo3b2o$205bo5bobo125b2o3bo2bo
16b2o640bo2bo8b2o5bobo$204bobo4b2o65b3o64bobo17bo519b2o9b3o11b2o94b4o
16bo$204b2obo69bo3bo64bobo384bo151bo2bo9bo11bo90b2o4b4o$204b2ob2o67bo
5bo22bo42bo384bobo153bo7bo5bo4bobo89bobo7bo$204b2obo68b2obob2o22b2o
425bobo141b2o11bo12b4ob3o90bo$194b2o8bobo94b2o3b2o426bo141b2o11bo11b2o
bob2o21bobo67b2o$193bobo9bo100b3o576bo2bo11b3obo2bo21bo3bo$130b2o61bo
112b2o577b2o14b2obobo6bo19bo$130b2o60b2o104b2o5b2o595b4o5b4o14bo4bo4b
2o38b2o$297bobo5bo432bo2bo4bo2bo153bo6bobob2o4bo12bo5b2o38bo$253b2o21b
2o19bo438b3o2b6o2b3o157bo2bob3o5b2obo3bo3bo26bo2bo8bo4bobo$129b3o121bo
23bo18b2o440bo2bo4bo2bo126bobo30b2obob2o5b4obo2bobo28bo10bobo3b2o$129b
3o112bo6bobo20b3o599bo3bo26b3ob4o6b2o2b2o29bobo5bo5bo3b2o$241b4o6b2o
21bo605bo7bo17bobo4bo39b4ob3o3bo5bo3b2o$240b4o414bo207b2o8bo4bo4b4o16b
o38b2o5b4o3b2o9bo3b2o$240bo2bo113bo298bobo207b2o12bo4bobob2o9b2o3b2o
38b2o5bo2bo8bo6bobo$127b2o3b2o106b4o111bobo296b2o18b2o200bo3bo3bo2bob
3o8b2o25bo24b4o16bo$128b5o101b2o5b4o102b2o4b2o18b2o273b2o4b2o17bo3bo
198bobo6bobob2o36b2o24b4o5bobo$129b3o54bo46bobo8bo102b2o4b2o17bo3bo
271b2o4b2o16bo5bo207b4o36bobo2bobo22bo5bo$130bo55b3o44bo119b2o16bo5bo
278bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o204bo43b2o29bo5b2o$189bo42b2o98bo2bo4bo2bo11bob
o4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o19b2o254bo3bo9bo5bo3b2o248bo36b2o$188b2o140b3o2b6o2b
3o11bo3bo9bo5bo3b2o19bo259b3o2bo5bo3bo198b2o35b2o$332bo2bo4bo2bo17b3o
2bo5bo3bo23bobo271b2o200b2o34b3o3b2obo$373b2o25b2o507bob2o5bo3bo2bo$
902b2o5bo2bo4bo4bo2b2o40b3o$191bo136bo340bo135b2o95b2o5bob2o4b4o5b2o
39bo$132b2o57bo135b3o337b3o135b2o75b2o28b3o3bo7b3o39bo$132bo57bobo133b
obobo324bo10bo138b2o63bo11bobo9b2o17b2o11b2o$133b3o53b2ob2o132bobobo
23bo300bobo8b2o138bo62bo12bo10b3o29b2o8b2o$135bo52bo5bo132b3o24bobo35b
2o261b2o148bobo61b3o6bo11bob2o9b2o20bo9bobo45bobo$191bo29b2o105bo25b2o
35bobo411bobo70b2o10bo2bo4bo5bo32bo37b3o5bo3bo$188b2o3b2o27bo170bo290b
2o120bo66b2o4b2o9bob2o5bo37b2o31b2o2bo2bobo7bo$101b2o119bobo5b2o452b2o
187b2o4b3o11b3o3bo3bo64bo2bo2b2o7bo4bo4b2o$101bo2bo118b2o5bobo95bo14b
2o23b2o280b2o221b2o4b2o13b2o5bo44bobo18bo19bo5b2o$231b3o93b3o13bobo22b
o282bo151b2o3b2o60b2o6b2o57bo9b2o18bo10b3o2bo3bo$105bo126b3o91bobobo3b
3ob2o4b3o12bo6bobo279b3o152bobobobo59bobo6bo58b3o7bo19bo15bobo$231b3o
92bobobo3b4o2bo4b3o8b4o6b2o280bo155b5o60bo70bo20b2o5bo2bo$103b2o88b2o
35bobo7b2o85b3o8b2o4b3o8b4o25b3o418b3o60b2o69bo20bobo7b2o$102bo90bo36b
2o8bobo85bo14bobo9bo2bo27bo268bo150bo132bo2bo17bo$194b3o45bo100b2o10b
4o26bo262b2o5b2o286bo15b2o$196bo45b2o112b4o288bo5bobo284bo$99b2o3b2o
253bo278b2o6bobo$99b2o3b2o261b4o19b4o242bo2bo6b2o15b2o290b2o$100b5o
261b6o17b6o228bobo9bo25bo2bo16b2o3b2o267bo$101bobo261b8o4b2o9b8o227bo
3bo7bo6bo17bo7b6o9b3o270b3o$364b2o6b2o2bobo8b2o6b2o230bo7bo7b2o15bo6bo
6bo7bo3bo116bobo152bo$101b3o123bo137b8o5bo9b8o217b2o8bo4bo7bo2bo20bo7b
2o4bo8bobo117b2o143b3o$225b3o138b6o17b6o218b2o12bo10b2o14b2o5bo2bo7b2o
10bo119bo63b3o4b2o71bo$224bo142b4o19b4o229bo3bo25bobo7b2o203bo7bo72bo
9bo$224b2o397bobo8bobo16bo27b3o4b3o136b2o40bo6bob2o5b2o71bobo$635b2o
15b2o16b2o3b2o4b3o4bo118b3o17b2o48bo7bobo58bobo8bob2o10b2o$99b2o534bo
34bo5bo12bo116bo3bo45b2o23bo4b3o12bo44bo2bo6b2ob2o10b2o$100bo120b2o
161b2o411bo7bo5bo44b3o20bo2bo4b3o8b4o35b2o10b2o6bob2o$97b3o283b2o255bo
30bo3bo119b2o9bo3bo40b2o5b2obo18b2o4b3o8b4o9b2o25b2o8bo3b2o5bobo$97bo
287bo254b2o30b3o4b2o3b2o110b2o9b3o39bo8bo2bo5b2o16bobo9bo2bo9b2o30b2o
5b2o8bo$370b2o244b2o21bobo38b5o122b3o17b3o22bo5b2obo5b2o16b2o10b4o5bo
34bo4bo2bo$219b2o3b2o145b2o24b2o218bo63b3o12b2o129b3o18bo7b3o30bo8b4o
4bo39bobo$219b2o3b2o144bo26bo2bo216bobo7b2o53bo13bobo111b2o14bo3bo17bo
7b2o30bo12bo$387bo3b3o7bo6b2o208b2o6bobo67bo113bo77b3o$221b3o133b2o27b
5o3bo6bo6b2o215bo6b2o4bo172b3o11b2o3b2o17b2o$221b3o131bo2bo26b2ob2o3bo
7bo223bo2bo2bo2bo2bobo148bobo22bo37bo$222bo131bo7b3o3bo15b3ob2o3bo3bo
2bo224bo6b3obob2o10b2o20b2o36bobo57b2o16b2o$350b2o2bo6bo3b5o15b2ob4o5b
2o227bobo6b2ob2o10b2o20b2o31b2o3bo2bo57bo17bo93b3o$28b2o324bo7bo3b2ob
2o15b4o237b2o7bob2o58b2o2b2ob3o5b2o6b2o48bobo7bo22b2o42b2o3b2o28bo$29b
o325bo2bo3bo3b2ob3o15bo249bobo57bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o40bo8b2o7bobo20bo
6bo17b3o16b2o3b2o29bo$29bobo8b2o177b2o136b2o5b4ob2o267bo42b2o13bo8bobo
5b2o48b3o18b2o6b2o8bobo6bo14b2o21b5o42bo$30b2o7bobo178bo127bo17b4o311b
2o13bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo52bo17b2o4bo3bo7b2o6b3o13b2o22bobo43b2o$38b3o176b3o
129bo18bo327bo13bobo52b2o17b2o3bo5bo29b2o58bo5b2o4b2o8b2o$37b3o9b2o
166bo131bo339b2o6bobo81bobo4b2obo3bo30bobo21b3o32bobo3b2o4b3o7b2o$38b
3o8b2o637bobo7b2o81bo7bo5bo14b3o14b2o44b2o11bobo2b2o4b2o$39bobo646bo
101bo3bo16bo61b2o11bo2bo6b2o$40b2o305b2o3b2o333b2o103b2o17bo74bobo7bo$
350bo460bo15b2o3b2o51bobo$347bo5bo457bo15b2o3b2o51bo$348b2ob2o414b3o
40b3o8bo29b2o$349bobo414bo3bo48b2o8b3o19b2o$350bo414bo5bo48b2o7b3o$b2o
347bo414bo5bo18b2o18b3o17bo$2bo765bo21b2o19bo$2bobo6bobo752bo3bo40bo$
3b2o5bo2bo3b2o746b5o$9b2o5b3ob2o2b2o321b2o403bo2b2o4b2o2b2obo40bo$7b2o
3bo3bo3bo3bobo321bo402bo3b3o2b3o3bo42bobo$o8b2o5bobo8bo317b3o404bo2b2o
4b2o2bo43b2o$3o7bo2bo2b2o6bo2bo7b2o308bo481bo$3bo7bobo4bo8bo7b2o753b3o
24b2o7b3o$2b2o14b3o3bobo762bo3bo22b2o8b3o$24b2o785bo6bo$18bobo366bo
400bo5bo7bo8bo12b2o3b2o$19bo365b3o364b2o5b2o27b2o3b2o6bo8b3o11b2o3b2o$
384bo368bo5b2o40b3o$384b2o367bobo25b2o$2b2o3b2o159bo23bo561b2o23bo2bo
7b2o18b3o11b2o$5bo162b3o21b3o111b2o74bo94b2o279b2o10b2o6bo7b2o4bo18bo
11bobo$2bo5bo2b2o158bo23bo109bo3bo71bobo93bo279bobo10b2o6bo6bo6bo18bo
10b2o34bo$3b2ob2o2bobo157b2o22b2o108bo5bo69bo3bo81b2o7bobo7bo272bo19bo
7b6o19bo11b2o31b3o$4bobo5bo291bo3bo2bo69b3o4b2o76bobo6b2o6b3o293bo2bo
28bo11b2o30bo$5bo298bo74b2o3b2o2b2o63bobo13bo12bo298b2o27b3o13b3o26b2o
$5bo291bo7bo3bo3bo138bo2bo2b2o6bo2bo12b2o266b3o$296bobo7b2o3b2obo136b
2o5bobo8bo57bo221bo3bo4bo$314bo128b2o4b2o3bo3bo3bo3bobo10b3o44bobo220b
o3bo3bobo50b3o$314b2o127b2o6b2o5b3ob2o2b2o11b3o44b2obo7b2o211b3o4bob2o
50bo$7bo162b2o3b2o119b3o153bo2bo3b2o17bo3bo9b2o20b2o10b2ob2o6bobo216b
2o53bo10b2o3b2o30b2o$6b3o161b2o3b2o19b3o97b3o89b3o62bobo21bo5bo8b2o20b
2o10b2obob3o6bo318b2o$5bo3bo161b5o19bo3bo97bo60bo119bo3bo43bobo2bo2bo
2bo2bo282bo3bo24b3o$4bob3obo161bobo19bo5bo156bobo12b2o14bobo88b3o45bo
4b2o6bo215b2o66b3o24bo3bo$5b5o184bo5bo154b2o3bo11b2o13b5o77bo67bobo6b
2o202b3o4bob2o63b3o23bo5bo$172b3o22bo99bo57b2o3bo25b2o3b2o74bobo67b2o
7bobo200bo3bo3bobo90bo5bo$195bo3bo96b3o56b2o3bo21b2o2b2o3b2o75b2o78bo
200bo3bo4bo94bo$196bo99b3o53b2o3bobo22b2o140bobo21b2o200b3o69b2o27bo3b
o$197bo2bo84b2o64bobo4bo41bo90b3o30b2o297bo8b2o18b3o$175b2o23bo84bobo
63bo48bobo73bobob2o8bo3bo30bo294b3o8bobo19bo$175bo23bo80b2o6bo7bobo51b
2o51b2o4b2o63bo8bo336bo9bo11b3o$176b3o21b3o76bobo3bo2bo8bo105b2o4b2o
64b2o12bo5bo34bo239bo59bo2bo4bo18b2o3b2o$178bo3bo19bo76bobo6bo114b2o
84b2o3b2o16b2o15b2o239b3o57bo22b2o$182b3o100bobo6b2o104bobo76b2ob2o28b
o16bobo8bobo230bo49b2o6bobo4b3o12b2o3bo3bo$185bo99b2o7bobo69b3o31bo78b
2o20b2o7bobo25bo3bo229b2o48bobo7b2o5b2o18b3o6bo$6b2o176b2o110bo68bo3bo
110b2o10b2o7bo2bo5b2o14b2o10bo12b2o269bo16b2o18b3o4b4o$6b2o177b3o91bo
16b2o66bo5bo16b2o102bo4b2o7bo20bo2bo7bo4bo8b2o268b2o14bobo25bobob2o9b
2o$186bobo90bo84b2obob2o16b2o9b2o75b2o3b2o9bo6bo6bo15b2o7bo7bo299bo25b
o2bob3o8b2o$185bo3bo88bobo118bo76b5o11b6o7bo17bo6bo7bo3bo322bobob2o$
185b5o41b2o46bo119bobo7b2o65b2ob2o20bo2bo25bo9bobo323b4o$184b2o3b2o40b
o2bo44bo87bo32b2o6bobo65b2ob2o20b2o15b2o6bo2bo242b2o3b2o56b2o3b2o26bo$
185b5o36b2o7bo43bo86bobo25b3o10bo13bobo53b3o37bobo6b2o244bo5bo56b2o3b
2o$186b3o39bo6bo6b2o35bo86bobo25bo12bo2bo6b2o2bo2bo84bobo5bo318b5o17b
2o$187bo47bo6b2o34bobo86bo13b2o12bo11bo8bobo5b2o83b2o5b2o255bo3bo59bob
o18b2o9b2o$223b2o6bo2bo44bo99bo2bo25bobo3bo3bo3bo3b2o4b2o76bo263b3o93b
o$222bobo6b2o46bo86b2o10bo7b5o18b2o2b2ob3o5b2o6b2o403b3o30bobo5b2o$
222bo143b2o10bo6bo5bo24b2o3bo2bo92bo353b2o5b3o$221b2o63bo91bo7b2o3bo
29bobo53b2o36b3o362b2obo8bo$284b3o85b2o5bo2bo7bo86b2o35bo365bo2bo6bobo
$283bo87bobo7b2o13b2o73bo42b2o335bo28b2obo5bobo$283b2o86bo24bobo59bo
11b4o377b4o23b3o7bo2bo11b2o$189b2o179b2o25b3o53bobobobo9b2obobo297bo
64b2o13b4o22b2o9bobo11b2o$189bo106b2o100b2o51bo3bobobo8b3obo2bo296bobo
62b2o13bo2bo5b2o27bobo$190b3o103b2o97b2o54bo5bobo9b2obob2o33b2o261b2o
78b4o5b2o19bo9bo$192bo47bo154b3o46b2o4bo4bo14b4ob3o20b2o8bobo332b2o6b
4o25b2o$240b3o54bo123b2o21b2o5bo10bo8bo4bobo20bo10bo266bo64bobo6bo15b
2o12b2o$243bo34b2obob2o11bobo110b3o2bo5bo3bo26bo3bo6bo15bo17b3o277b3o
63bo24bo2bo$242b2o34bo5bo11bobo97b2o7bo3bo9bo5bo3b2o22bobo5bo16b2o16bo
278b5o61b2o$279bo3bo13bo98b2o5bobo4bo8bo3bob2o2b2o51b2o290b2o3b2o86bo
2bo5b2o$280b3o118b2o16bo5bo57bo280b2o9b5o86bo2bo6b2o$245bo155b2o17bo3b
o58bob2o3b2o271bobo9bo3bo86bobo$244bobo47b2obob2o100b2o18b2o61bo3bo3bo
5bo2b3o259bo12bobo88bo21b2o$243bo3bo46bo5bo96b2o4bobo61bo25bo9bo3bo
254b2o13bo111bo2bo$244b3o48bo3bo96bobo6bo60b2o18bo2bo3bo8bo4bobo357b2o
10bo3b3o7bo6b2o$242b2o3b2o47b3o97bo69bobo18bo5bo16b2o4b2o349b2o9b5o3bo
6bo6b2o$395b2o91bo3bo17b2o4b2o258b2o99b2ob2o3bo7bo$283bo206b2o18b2o
264b2o98b3ob2o3bo3bo2bo$185b2o97bo222bobo367b2ob4o5b2o$185b2o95b3o222b
o360b2o8b4o$867bobo9bo$474b2o391bo$295bo177b2o391b2o$175bo118bo180bo
356bo$173b3o48b2o51b5o12b3o535bobo$172bo12b3o35bobo50bob3obo550bobo$
172b2o35bo12b3o19b2o31bo3bo542b2o7bo2bo3b2o$185bobo21b4o8b3o20b2o32b3o
552bobo4b2o$184b5o21b4o8b3o54bo202bo344b3o2bobo$183b2o3b2o20bo2bo9bobo
5b2o64b5o179b2o349bo$169b3o11b2o3b2o20b4o10b2o5bobo62bob3obo178bobo
343bo$201b2o6b4o8bo11bo63bo3bo524bo$169bobo28bobo6bo12bo10b2o43b2o18b
3o525bo$168b5o13b2o12bo19b3o55b2o19bo$167b2o3b2o10b2ob2o10b2o$167b2o3b
2o10bo2bo634b2o3b2o$187bo301b2o334bo$184bo95bo18b2o187b2o10bobo319bo5b
o$169b2o14b2o92bo19b2o189bo8bo2bo320b2ob2o$168b2ob2o106b3o5bo197b2o11b
2o10b2o312bobo$169bo2bo112b3o197bobo8b2o3bo8b2o313bo$169bo15b2o3b2o23b
3o66bo195b2o6bo9b2o5b2o318bo$172bo7bo5b5o13bo12bo66b2o190b2obo2bo2bo2b
o10bo2bo4bo$157b2o11b2o6b2o7b3o14b4o8bo259b2o2b2o6bo11bobo$157bo21b2o
7bo16b4o10b2o264bobo$149bo5bobo47bo2bo9bobo264b2o$149bobo3b2o8b2o3b2o
33b4o8b3o4b2o10bo588b2o$150bobo13b5o4b2o19b2o6b4o8b3o4bo2b4o7bo587b2o$
150bo2bo13b3o5b2o18bobo6bo12b3o4b2ob3o5b3o$150bobo15bo26bo22bobo$138b
2o9bobo42b2o23b2o60b3o$137bobo9bo130bo3bo$137bo50b2o75bo13bo5bo$136b2o
50b2o74bo14bo5bo$192b2o19b2o49b3o15bo$170b2o11bobo7bo19bo66bo3bo$170bo
13b2o7bobo7b2o6bobo67bo$171b3o10bo9b2o7b2o6b2o69bo2bo$173bo26b2o76bo6b
o$199b3o6bo67b3o5bo$200b2o6bo66bo9b3o$203b2o46bo23b2o10bo$203b2o47bo$
250b3o4$202bo47bo$202bobo14bo29bo$202b2o14b2o29b3o$198bobo17bobo51b3o$
199b2o70bo3bo$199bo70bo5bo$271bo3bo$196b2o74b3o$197bo74b3o$194b3o69bo$
194bo72bo7b2o$181bobo81b3o7bo$179bo3bo92b3o$179bo19bo78b3o$178bo4bo14b
4o14b2o63bo$179bo12bo4b2obobo14bo17bo42b3o$174b2o3bo3bo3bob2o5b3obo2bo
13bobo7b2o5bo42bo$173bobo5bobo2bob4o5b2obob2o14b2o6b3o4b2obo40b2o$173b
o12b2o2b2o6b4ob3o17bob2o6bobo$172b2o25bo4bobo16bo2bo$206bo16bob2o$206b
2o18b3o6b2o$227b2o6bobo$237bo$179bobo55b2o$179b2o$180bo51bo31bobo5b2o
3b2o$230b3o31b2o$204b2o23bo35bo7bo3bo$205bo23b2o43b3o$205bobo66b3o$
173bo27bo4b2o$171b2o28b3o$172b2o30bo21b3o$203b2o21b3o$225bo3bo45b2o$
213b2o60b2o$212b2o10b2o3b2o$214bo3$249bobo$249b2o$250bo2$173b2o39b3o
12b2o$172b2o40bo14bo$174bo23bo16bo14b3o$198b2o32bo$194b2o3b2o$199b3o$
199b2o27b2o$181bo9b2o5b2o8b2o17b2o$180b2o8bobo5bo9bobo18bo$180bobo7bo
19bo$189b2o19b2o$234bobo$234b2o$235bo$200bo$187b2o2b2o6b4o26b3o$182bob
o2bob4o5b2obobo3b2o20bo$180bo3bo3bob2o5b3obo2bo2b2o10b2o9bo$173b2o5bo
12bo4b2obobo15b2o$173b2o4bo4bo14b4o$180bo19bo$180bo3bo58b2o42b2o$182bo
bo46b2o9b2o43b2o$230b2o12bo$219bo12bo$218b3o$218b3o64b2o15b2o$227b3o
72b2o$216b2o3b2o6bo$216b2o3b2o5bo$244b3o$238b2o4bo39b2o3b2o13b2o$237b
2o6bo39b5o$219b2o18bo45b2ob2o$285b2ob2o$276b2o8b3o$216b2o12b3o25b2o16b
2o22b2o3b2o$217bo14bo24b2o42b5o$214b3o14bo27bo41b2ob2o$214bo86b2ob2o$
302b3o$275b3o$275b3o13bo$229b2o11bo31bo3bo6bo3bobo$228b2o12b3o39b3o3b
2o$230bo14bo13b3o11b2o3b2o3b5o$244b2o7b2o4bo22bobobobo$252b2o6bo21b2o
3b2o10bo$226b2o26bo44bobo3bo$226b2o19bo51b2o3b3o$204bo42bo37bo17b5o$
202b3o10b3o28bobo24b2o9bobo15bobobobo$201bo15bo27b2ob2o22b2o12bo15b2o
3b2o$201b2o13bo22b2o3bo5bo23bo7bo2bo$227bo11b2o6bo30b2o2bo$219b2o6bo9b
3o4b2o3b2o27bo4bo$219b2o5bobo8b2o40b4o$225b2ob2o6bobo42bo$198b3o23bo5b
o12b3o37bo18b2o$197bo3bo25bo14b2obo36b2o19bo$206b2o16b2o3b2o11b2o30b3o
23b3o$196bo5bo3b2o35b2o23b2o4bo25bo$196b2o3b2o41bobo20b2o6bo8bo$209b2o
7b3o8b3o12bo2b2o20bo14bobo$209bobo5bo3bo7bob2o51b2o10bo$201b2o6bo21b2o
62bobo$201bobo12bo5bo7b2o56b2o4bob2o15b2o$203bo12b2o3b2o5bobo28b2o27b
2o3b2ob2o14bobo$202b2o22b2o2bo27bobo33bob2o13bo6b2o$199bo43b5o12bo8bo
25bobo13bo2bo2bo2bob2o$199bo2bo13b2o24bob3obo18bobo26bo5bo8bo6b2o2b2o$
199bo15bobo25bo3bo17b2o35bobo7bobo$215bo28b3o18b2o35b2o9b2o$215b2o28bo
19b2o$198b2obob2o14bo7b5o29b2o4bobo8b2o$216bo2bo6bob3obo9b2o16bobo6bo
8bobo8b3o$198bo5bo14bo7bo3bo11bo16bo19bo8bo$228b3o9b3o16b2o19b2o8bo4bo
$199b2ob2o25bo10bo53bo$201bo12b2obob2o73b3o$231b2o$214bo5bo10bo$232b3o
9b2o37b2o12b2o9b2o$215b2ob2o14bo8bobo38bo12bobo7bobo$201b2o14bo7b2o18b
o38bobo4bo5bo8bo6b2o2b2o$201b2o22b2o58b2o3bobo13bo2bo2bo2bob2o$289bob
2o13bo6b2o$288b2ob2o14bobo$225bo63bob2o15b2o$216b2o6bobo18b2o43bobo$
216b2o5bo3bo17b2o44bo$223b5o$222b2o3b2o$223b5o17bo$224b3o17bobo$225bo
17bo3bo$243b5o$229b2o11b2o3b2o$228bobo12b5o$230bo13b3o$245bo2$240b2o$
240bobo$240bo2$226b3o$225bo3bo2$224bo5bo$224b2o3b2o$242b3o$241bo3bo$
227bo$226bobo11bo5bo$226bobo11b2o3b2o$226bo$226bo$226bo2bo13bo$227b2o
13bobo$242bobo$244bo$244bo$241bo2bo$242b2o!

Stand alone, the pattern runs to 42 terms (FF80C38 = 267,914,296). At generation 319,102 an unfortunately unreleased LWSS from the p1920 N(t-2) register causes the mechanism to GTS starting at gen 320,432. The 27 bit argument, plus the delay of 6 bits mentioned above, causes the register to overrun.
Coupled with the BCD converter, the pattern runs to 35 terms (8CCCC96 = 9,227,465). Actually, the next two terms are fully calculated. The 37th term is a 25 bit value. While then 36th is being processed for display, the 37th is released into the BCD. Its last bit is unfortunately unreleased from the holding pattern at 953,550, which leads to that bit interfering with the sniper gun at left of the holding loop at generation ~960,023. Reengineering the BCD converter for greater than 24 bit is more than I care to take on at this time. Sorry.
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