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Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

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Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » March 30th, 2015, 4:16 pm

Speaking about infinitely growing patterns, is such a pattern as a stationary wickstretcher known? It would relate to a gun in the same way as a normal wickstretcher relates to a puffer. Are growing wicks known?

And hereby I mean wicks that are "reasonably closely connected", citing Jason Summers (otherwise the answer would be too easy).
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby towerator » March 30th, 2015, 5:33 pm

It sounds like an impush, but instead of simply moving, the hasseled reaction also clones itself.

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x = 794, y = 765, rule = B3/S23
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130bo25bo5bo$54bo131bo25b2obob2o7b3o27b2o13b2o$171b3o53bo28bo2bo11b2o$
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$5b2o177bo29bobo10bo12bo19bo6b2o42b2obo$5b2o57b5o99bo7bo6b3o28bobo9b3o
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$3b2o51b2o9bo2bo2bo2bo84bobo10b2o12b2o6bo3b2o$3b2o51bobo8bo6b2o86bo9bo
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126b2o116bo3bo64bo$95bo5bo106bo37bobo15bo10bobo2bobo$94b3o5bo35bobo10b
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2o$101b2o253bobo$101bo256bo3$367b2o4bobo$368bo4bo2bo$111b5o250bobo7b2o
$110bob3obo257bo3b2o4b2o$111bo3bo260b2o6b2o$112b3o122b2o126b2o6bo2bo$
113bo123b2o125bobo6bobo$131bo105b2o125bo$131b3o103bo125b2o$134bo101bob
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38bo$122b2o3b2o4b2o3b2o25bo5b2o66b2o35bobo12b2o3b2o20bo9b2o37bobo$122b
obobobo5bo3bobo11b2o7bo3bo73bo37b2o13b5o30bo6bo33bobo$123b5o3b3o17bobo
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5bobo$113bo2bo128b3o19b6o29bobo4b2o51bo10bo$113bobo134bobo49b2obo54bo
2bo8b3o101b2o$107b2o142bo36b2o12b2ob2o48bo15bo3bo99bobo$107b2o126b2o
51bobo11b2obo48bobobo4bo9bo$129b2o104b2o52bo12bobo50b3o12bo5bo96bobo
45b3o$121b3o6b2o109bobo59bo15b3o34b3o3bo7bo5bo96b2o16b2o28bo$123bo5bo
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51b3o117bo$134bobob2o10b3o79b2o4bo4bo$133bo2bob3o29b2o67bo128b2o$134bo
bob2o28bo4bo65bo3bo114b3o6b2o$130b2o3b4o28bo6bo66bobo114b3o8bo154b3o$
114b2o13bobo5bo16b2o10bo8bo116bobo64bo164bo$113bobo13bo24bobo9bo8bo74b
2o3b2o36b2o64bo165bo$104b2o3b2o4bo12b2o24bo11bo8bo74b2o3b2o36bo65bo$
106b3o58bo6bo17b2o164bobo$105bo3bo10b3o45bo4bo18b2o58b3o$106bobo37bo
23b2o80b3o90b2o24bo$107bo11bo3bo21b3o105bo90b2o12bobo9b3o$119bo3bo20b
5o42b3o152bo12bo10b3o$108b3o32bobobobo11b3o27b3o165bo$108b3o9b3o20b2o
3b2o11bo197bo8b2o3b2o$162bo9bo185b3o7b2o3b2o$171bobo29b3o152b3o$120b3o
23bo12bobo8bob2o10b2o3b2o3b2o57b2o$106b2o3b2o32bobo11bo2bo6b2ob2o10b2o
4b5o7bo3bo46b2o53b2o61bo$107b5o7bo3bo21bobo2b2o10b2o6bob2o17b3o8bo3bo
101b2o60bobo$108b3o8bo3bo22bo3b2o8bo3b2o5bobo18bo42b2o11b2o122b2o$109b
o36b2o7b2o5b2o8bo30b3o28bobo11b2o122b2o$120b3o23b2o6bo4bo2bo57bo12b3o
4b2o129b3o$146b2o11bobo53bo4b4o8b3o4bo2b4o98b2o24bobo$203b3o9bo5b4o8b
3o4b2ob3o3bo93bo3bo22b2o$210b2o9bo2bo9bobo11bobo81b2o8bo5bo4b3o$202bo
3bo3b2o9b4o10b2o10bo3bo80b2o8bo3bob2o$193bo8bo3bo13b4o8bo14b5o40bo49bo
5b2o204b2o$194b2o24bo12bo12b2o3b2o40bo49bo4b2o20bo6bo144b3o28b2o$109b
2o82b2o8b3o25b3o13b5o39b3o6b2o42b2o3bo19b2o6b2o143bo32bo$109b2o137b3o
49bobo45bobo17b3o6b3o143bo$239b3o7bo45b2o6bo44bobo18b2o6b2o$242bo51bo
2bo2bo2bo7b2o36bo20bo6bo$239bo2bo51b3o6bo7b2o47b3o$187b2o3b2o98b3o5bob
o57bo196b2o$189b3o8bobo37b3o48bobo6b2o44b2o3b2o8bo194b2o$188bo3bo8b2o
19bo4bo10bo3bo23b2o23bo54bo5bo205bo$189bobo9bo18b2ob4ob2o8bo2bo24bo23b
2o$190bo31bo4bo10b3o15bo7bobo80bo3bo$256bobo5b2o82b3o17bo2bo8bo$259b2o
107bo10bobo$259b2o103bo2bo3b2o5bo3b2o3b2o$190b2o16bo50b2o6b2o92b4o3b2o
bobo4bo3b2o3b2o$190b2o17b2o6bo38bobo9b2o83b2o5b4o14bo3b2o$197bobo5bo3b
o5bobo38bo10bo6bo78b2o5bo2bo8b2o5bobo$196bo2bo3bo3b2o7b2o56b2o84b4o16b
o$187b2o6b2o6bo69bobo73b2o10b4o$187b2o4b2o3bo3bo3b2o141b2o13bo191b2o$
195b2o359b2o$196bo2bo355b2o$197bobo356bobo$556b2o$205b2o3b2o346bo$205b
obobobo346b2o$206b5o346bobo$207b3o349bo$208bo$585b3o$259b3o323bo$261bo
324bo$226bo33bo$226b3o313b2o$229bo313b2o$208b2o18b2o312bo$208b2o53b2o
323b3o$263b2o323bo$427b2o160bo$427b2o2$508b2o41bo$220b2o286b2o39b3o$
220b2o326bo$228b2o3b2o287b2o24b2o$230b3o289b2o$229bo3bo193bo$230bobo
21b2o170b3o9b3o$220bo10bo20bo3bo168b5o9bo86bo19bo$218b2ob2o28bo5bo166b
obobobo8bo86b2o18bo$250b2obo3bo8b2o156b2o3b2o7b3o27b2o13b2o40bobo17bob
o$217bo5bo4b2o21bo5bo8b2o200b2o13b2o59b2ob2o$229bo17b2o3bo3bo181b3o14b
o4bo10b2o70bo5bo$217b2obob2o2b3o17bobo5b2o171bo10b3o12bobo4bo10b3o5b2o
26b5o34bo$226bo19bo179bobo22b2o7bo10b2o6b2o25bob3obo30b2o3b2o$245b2o
178b2obo9b3o4b2o4b2o11b2o2b2o37bo3bo16b2o$207bo217b3o11bo5b2o4b2o8b2o
2bo2b2o38b3o18b2o27bo$206bobo215bo2bo11bo13bobo5b4o44bo18bo29bobo$204b
2o3bo214b3o11b3o14bo7bo95bobo$199b2o3b2o3bo213bo3bo56bo74bo2bo3b2o50b
2o$199b2o3b2o3bo212bo5bo54b3o20b2o51bobo4b2o49b2o$206bobo214bo3bo5bo
48b5o20bo50bobo58bo$207bo216b3o7bo5bo29bobo8b2o3b2o16b3o51bo$202b2o
228b3o6b2o28b2o31bo7b3o48b2o$202b2o236b2o29bo42bo48b2o$457b6o50bo$202b
o9bobo241bo6bo19b3o15b2o118b2o$201bobo7b2ob2o19b2o218bo8bo18b3o15bo62b
o55b2o$201bobo6b3o2b2o18b2o219bo6bo14bo9bo10bobo61b3o56bo$202bo8b2o3b
2o14b2o223b6o13b2obo7bobo9b2o50b2o9bo3bo$215b2o14b3o242b2o8bob2o74bo$
232b2o242bo8b2ob2o63bo7bo5bo$199b2obob2o19b2o8b2o188b2o50b2o7bob2o71bo
5bo$199bo5bo18bobo8b2o23bo2bob2obo2bo153b2o51bo8bobo60bobo9bo3bo$200bo
3bo19bo28bobo4b4ob2ob4o160bobo53bo62b2o10b3o$201b3o3bo15b2o17b2o8bo2bo
4bo2bob2obo2bo160bo3bo$207b2o7bo34b2ob2o166b2o12bo92bo29b2o$206bobo7bo
205b2o8bo4bo90b2o19b3o6b2o$251b2o183bo91bobo18b3o8bo$216bo215bo3bo113b
o$215bobo20b2obob2o187bobo8bo106bo$442b3o105bo$215b3o20bo5bo197b3o104b
obo$204bo54b2o9b2o$204bo34b2ob2o14b2o9bobo168b2o3b2o115bo$203bobo9b3o
23bo11bo6bo7b3o4b2ob3o159b2o3b2o51b2o49bobo9b3o$202b2ob2o45bobo12b3o4b
o2b4o216bobo50bo10b3o$201bo5bo7bobo27b2o3b2o3bo12b3o4b2o222bo50bo$204b
o11bo28b2o3b2o3bo13bobo171bo106bo8b2o3b2o$201b2o3b2o42b2o3bo14b2o170bo
bo104b3o7b2o3b2o83b3o$216bo24b2o9bobo186b2o106b3o97bo$216bo24b2o10bo
187b2o207bo$203bo237b3o118bo$203bo238bobo37b2o77bobo$202bo240b2o38b2o
13b2o63b2o$482bo15b2o63b2o$562b3o87b3o$204b2o329b2o24bobo88bo$204b2o
328bo3bo6b2o14b2o90bo$523b2o8bo5bo5b2o$523b2o8bo3bob2o$533bo5b2o$499bo
34bo4b2o20bo6bo$497bobo35b2o3bo19b2o6b2o$498b2o39bobo17b3o6b3o$492b2o
45bobo18b2o6b2o$491bobo46bo20bo6bo$490bo6b2o52b3o127b2o$466bo23bo2bo2b
o2bob2o48bo122b3o4b2o$466b2o22bo6b2o2b2o34b2o3b2o8bo123bo$465bobo14b2o
7bobo43bo5bo131bo$481bobo8b2o$481bo56bo3bo$480b2o57b3o17bo2bo8bo$436b
2o41bo79bo10bobo104b2o$436b2o30b2o7b3o75bo2bo3b2o5bo3b2o3b2o96bobo$
469b2o5bo75b4o3b2obobo4bo3b2o3b2o98bo$450b2o16bo7b2o66b2o5b4o14bo3b2o$
439bo10b2o92b2o5bo2bo8b2o5bobo$438bo112b4o16bo$438bo101b2o10b4o$540b2o
13bo$661b2o$434b2o3b2o11b3o207b2o$437bo16bo18b3o185bo$434bo5bo12bo18bo
3bo$435b2ob2o31bo5bo207b2o$436bobo32b2obob2o206b2o$437bo248bo$437bo45b
2o$483b3o$479bo5b2obo$474bobo3bo4bo2bo5b2o$434b2o40b4o5b2obo5b2o$435bo
40b3o4b3o53b2o$432b3o48b2o54b2o$432bo58b2o$491b2o127b2o23bo17bo$620b2o
23b2o14b3o$644bobo13bo$634b2o24b2o$634b2o$491b3o56b3o$480b3o8b3o45bo$
480bo9bo3bo43b3o8bo3bo93b2o$477b3obo55b5o7bo3bo94b2o8bo$355b2o120b2o
10b2o3b2o40b2o3b2o37b2o13b2o50bo9b3o$355b2o193b3o27bobo12b2o60b3o$568b
o12b3o34b2o3b2o$565b4o3b2o8b3o6b2o62b2o3b2o$478bo9b2o48b3o9b3o11b4o3b
2o8b3o7b2o26bo3bo31b2o3b2o$457b3o17b3o8bobo47b3o16b2o5bo2bo3b2obob2o2b
obo37b3o$457bo18bobobo7bo60bo3bo3b2o5b4o4bobob2o2b2o38b3o8b3o34bobo$
354b3o101bo17bobobo56bo11bo3bo11b4o3bob2o57bo34bo3bo$353b2ob2o119b3o
56bobo29bo63bo39bo$353b2ob2o120bo9bo46bo3bo10b3o115bo4bo4b2o$353b5o9bo
168b3o57bo21b2o43bo8bo5b2o36b3o$352b2o3b2o8bo166b2o3b2o4bo36bo12b3o21b
o43bo4bo3bo43bo$366bobo109bo64bobo37b2o9b5o17b3o49bobo46bo$367bo22b2o
41bo43b3o64b2o36b2o9b2o3b2o16bo58b2o$354b2o11bo22bobo38b3o42bobobo8b3o
102b5o76b2o$353b5o9bo23b3o36bo45bobobo7bo3bo101bo3bo$353bo13bo24b2o10b
2o24b2o45b3o7bo5bo75bo4bo11bobo6bobo15b2o$355b3o8bobo23b2o10b2o72bo8bo
5bo73b2ob4ob2o8bo2bo7bo16bo$357bo9bo22bobo97bo61bo16bo4bo11bo2bo12bo8b
obo42b2o17b3o$355b2o10bo23bo11bo2bo81bo3bo60bo5bo26bo2bo10bobo8b2o21bo
21bobo5b2o9b3o$355b2o46bo2bo82b3o59b3o6b2o25bobo8b2o33b2o21bo6b2o9bo3b
o$402bo4bo82bo68b2o37b2o33bobo29bo7bo5bo$388b2o3b2o8bo2bo130b2o59b2o
74bo3bo$350b2o3b2o31b2o3b2o8bo2bo130b2o61bobo72b3o$350bobobobo70b3o32b
o26b2o52bobo56bo$351b5o5bobo26b3o33bo3bo31bobo8b2o14b2o52bo2bo$352b3o
7b2o26b3o32bo5bo19b2o12b2o6bo60b2o10b2o124bo$353bo8bo28bo33bo5bo19b2o
12b2o7bo59b2o8bo3b2o121b2o$367bo60bo8b2o26b2o72b2o5b2o69b2o42b3o7bobo$
366bob2o38b2o16bo10bo2bo21bobo73bo4bo2bo69bobo43bo$370bo38b2o16b4ob2o
7bo20bo27bo4bo47bobo72bo43bo$366b2o40bo19b4o2bo6bo6b2o18bo19b2ob4ob2o
57bo105b3o$368b3o17b2o42b2o7bo6b2o17bobo20bo4bo58b3o$389bo47bo2bo25bo
3bo82b5o103b3o$353b2o31b3o48b2o27b5o81bobobobo102b3o$353b2o31bo58b2o
18b2o3b2o9b2o69b2o3b2o115bo$363bo62b2o17b2o19b5o9b2o119b2o58b3o9b3o$
362b4o26b3o31b2o39b3o12bo119b2o58bo9b5o$350b2o9b2obobo27bo73bo86bo45bo
60bo8bobobobo$350b2o8b3obo2bo25bo160bobo104b3o7b2o3b2o$361b2obobo129bo
57bobo192b2o$362b4o4b3o116b2obo3b4o55bo192b2o$363bo6b3o62b2o8b3o35b2o
2b2obobo4b4o5b2o47b2o117bo75bo$369bo3bo61bobo6b2ob2o33bobo2b2obob2o3bo
2bo5b2o47b2o116bobo$435bo8b2ob2o23b2o7b3o8b2o3b4o54b2o53b2o61bobo$368b
2o3b2o69b5o23b2o6b3o8b2o3b4o110b2o62bo$400bo42b2o3b2o31b3o12bo176b2o$
399b2o67b2o12bobo163bo24b2o$398b2o3b2o63b2o13b2o162bobo8b2o13b2o$397b
3o43bo191b2o9bo3b2o6b2o$398b2o32bo8b2obo190b2o9bo3b2o6bobo$389b2o8b2o
5b2o23b3o10bo140bo60bo3b2o6bo2bo13b4o$388bobo9bo5bobo21b5o150b2o60bobo
10bo13b6o$388bo19bo32bob2o139bobo61bo3bo5b2o13b8o$368b2o17b2o19b2o33bo
2bo204bobo18b2o6b2o$369bo74bobo158b2o44bobo19b8o$366b3o235bo3bo43bo21b
6o$366bo19bo216bo5bo54b2o9b4o100b2o$376b2o6b4o199b2o14bo3bob2o2b2o49bo
bo105bo6b2o$376b2o5bobob2o9b2o30b5o153b2o13bo5bo3b2o34b2obob2o8bo107b
2o$357b2o23bo2bob3o8b2o31b3o9b3o141bo6b2o8bo3bo40bo5bo115bobo$355bo4bo
22bobob2o43bo9bo3bo146bobo9b2o43bo3bo$354bo6bo21b5o53bo5bo145bo57b3o$
353bo8bo19bo3bo55bo3bo145b2o78b2o8bo$353bo8bo18bobo59b3o102b2o41bo80bo
2bo6bobo$353bo8bo18bobo59b3o102bobo38b3o75b2o2bo3bo7bobo4b2o82b2o$354b
o6bo20bo166b3o19b3o14bo77b3o2b2o2bo7bo2bo3b2o83b2o$355bo4bo8b2o179b2o
10b2o9bo14b2o66b2o5bob2o16bobo88bo$357b2o11b2o178b2o10b2o8bo83b2o5bo2b
o8b3o4bobo$369bo9b2o3b2o29bo27b2o103bobo112bob2o15bo$379bobobobo29b4o
24b2o104bo102b2o12b3o$380b5o20b2o9b4o232b2o13b2o$381b3o21b2o9bo2bo$
351bo9b2o19bo27bo5b4o126b2o3b2o205b3o$350bobo7b4o46bo4b4o127b2o3b2o
207bo$343b2o4bob2o5b3o2bo2bobo46bo19b2o3bo2b2o4b2o2bo131b3o171bo$343b
2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo65b2o2bo3b3o2b3o3bo93b3o33bo3bo$349bob2o6bo9b2o6b2o
43bo17bo2b2o4b2o2bo94b3o32bo5bo$350bobo5bo8bo3b2o4b2o42b3o125bo33bo5bo
$351bo6bo10b2o49bo3bo161bo8b2o$366bo2bo11b2o36bob3obo10bo147bo10bo2bo
42b2o$366bobo12b2o37b5o10b2o148b4ob2o7bo41b2o$435bobo148b4o2bo6bo6b2o$
546b2o42b2o7bo6b2o114b2o41bo$547bo47bo2bo123b2o39b3o$449b2o93b3o48b2o
44bo120bo$442bob2o3b3o92bo58b2o35bobo93b2o24b2o$438bo2bo3bo5b2obo5b2o
141b2o34bo3bo92b2o$437b2o2bo4bo4bo2bo5b2o178b3o117bo$426b2o8b2o5b4o4b
2obo183b2o3b2o85b3o8b3o15b3o$426b2o7b3o7bo3b3o201bo69bo6bo12bo14bo3bo$
436b2o11b2o201b3o67b3o6bo10bo17bo$422b2o13b2o147bo64b2ob2o30bo10b2o23b
3o32bo5bo$422b2o14bo146b2o6b2o8b3o44b3ob3o28bobo9b2o58bo5bo$562b3o20bo
bo5bobo6b2ob2o32bo10b3ob3o11b2o14bo3b2o30b2o3b2o31bo3bo$562bo30bo8b2ob
2o32bo10b3ob3o11bobo13bo3b2o3b2o25b2o3b2o17b2o13b3o$467b2o94bo38b5o32b
ob3o6b3ob3o6b2o4b3o12bo3b2o3b2o48bobo$467b2o132b2o3b2o43b2ob2o3b4o2bo
4b3o12bobo57bo$644bo7b3o4b3ob2o4b3o7bo6bo11bo72b2o$641bob2o8bo14bobo9b
2o14b2ob2o22b2o44bo2bo$601bo39b2o25b2o9b2o87bo7b5o$590bo8b2obo92bo5bo
66bo6bo5bo$589b3o10bo117b2o46bo7b2o3bo$466b3o10bo108b5o43b2o3b2o52b2ob
ob2o19bo6b2o39bo2bo7bo$478bobo118bob2o33b2o3b2o75b3o8b2o40b2o$466bobo
132bo2bo32b5o7bo68bo9bo48b2o$465b5o132bobo33bobo9bo35bobo69b2o17b2o$
464b2o3b2o7b3o167b3o36b2o69b2o$464b2o3b2o7b3o157b3o27bo2bob2obo2bo7bo
8b2o17b2o47bo$479bo22b2o41bo122b4ob2ob4o35bo47b2o$502b2o39b3o42b5o63bo
11bo2bob2obo2bo23b2o8bobo47bobo13b2o$466b2o34b2o4bo16bo16bo46b3o9b3o
51bobo45b2o8b2o$465b2ob2o9bo23bo3b2o7b2o7b2o15b2o46bo9bo3bo49bo3b2o46b
2o$466bo2bo8b3o21bobo2bobo6b2o6bobo72bo5bo48bob4o28bo17b3o$466bo11b3o
21bobo95bo3bo34b2o48bo16b2o$469bo33bo97b3o35b2o46b3o13b2o70b2o3b2o$
467b2o132b3o43b2o54b2o66b2o3b5o$478bobo165bobo121b2o4b2ob2o$479bo20b2o
3b2o20b2o107b2o7bo6b2o58bo59bo3b2ob2o$462b2o3b2o31bobobobo21b2o106b2o
7bo2bo2bo2bo57b2o63b3o$463b5o5bo27b5o21bo45bo27b2o42bo6b2o2b3o52bobo
50bo$464b3o7b2o2b2o22b3o34b3o31b4o8b2o14b2o43bobo7b3o104b3o$465bo7b2o
2bo2bo22bo34bo3bo20b2o9b4o9bo59b2o6bo3bo102b5o$478b2o57bo5bo19b2o9bo2b
o76bo5bo$483b2o53bo3bo6b2o17bo5b4o7b2o68bo3bo115b3o$473b3o6bobo54b3o7b
obo16bo4b4o8b2o69b3o55b2o59b3o$472bo3bo6bo27b3o25b3o2b2o6bo20bo13bo10b
o2b2o4b2o2bo103b2o57bo3bo$472b2ob2o36bo29bo2bo2bo2bo7b2o35bo3b3o2b3o3b
o101bo58bo5bo$500b2o10bo31b2o6bo7b2o18bo17bo2b2o4b2o2bo162bo3bo$501bo
47bobo27b3o180b5o8b3o$465b2o31b3o48b2o27bo3bo180b3o$465b2o31bo58b2o18b
ob3obo10bo169bo$475bo81b2o19b5o10b2o$474bobo61b4obo49bobo102b3o$462b2o
10b2obo60b2o3bo156bo$462b2o10b2ob2o61bobo114b2o40bo$474b2obo63bo65b2o
48b2o27bo25b2o$474bobo123bob2o3b3o77b2o23b2o$475bo6b3o72b3o36bo2bo3bo
5b2obo5b2o66b2o$481b2ob2o61b3o45b2o2bo4bo4bo2bo5b2o128bo26b2o$481b2ob
2o61bo9bobo24b2o8b2o5b4o4b2obo132b4o26b2o$481b5o62bo7b5o23b2o7b3o7bo3b
3o127b2o5b4o$480b2o3b2o26bo41b2o3b2o32b2o11b2o128b2o5bo2bo$512b4o39b2o
3b2o18b2o13b2o147b4o$511b2obobo63b2o14bo148b4o$510b3obo2bo230bo23bo2b
2o4b2o2bo$511b2obob2o37b2o214bo3b3o2b3o3bo$501b2o9b4ob3o24bo8b2obo148b
o63bo2bo2b2o4b2o2bo$500bobo10bo4bobo22b3o7bo149bobo59bo2b2o$500bo19bo
21b2ob2o154b2o$480b2o17b2o19b2o19b3ob3o6b3obo142b2o12b2o$481bo59b3ob3o
10bo142b2o12b2o$478b3o60b3ob3o10bo137b2o5bobo$478bo19bo42b3ob3o147bobo
7bo$488bo8bobo42b2ob2o148bo56b5o14b2o$487b2o7bob2o10b2o31b3o148b2o55bo
b3obo13bobo9b2o$486bo8b2ob2o10b2o32bo105b2o41bo58bo3bo14bo10b3o$486b2o
8bob2o53b2o3b2o90b2o39b3o59b3o11bo11bob2o9b2o$467b6o13b2obo7bobo55b3o
132bo63bo12b2o10bo2bo4bo5bo$466bo6bo14bo9bo55bo3bo105b2o24b2o66b2o2b2o
4b2o9bob2o5bo$465bo8bo18b3o59bobo106b2o92b2o2b2o4b3o11b3o3bo3bo$466bo
6bo19b3o60bo205b2o4b2o13b2o5bo$467b6o281b2o11b2o$481bo178b2o6b2o17b3o
64b2o11bo$481b2o176b2o8b2o16b3o$480bobo8b2o3b2o28b2o27b2o104bo6bo17bo
3bo$492b5o29b3o26b2o93b3o$493b3o21b2o9b2obo117bo3bo31b2o3b2o$494bo22bo
5bo4bo2bo116bo5bo$465bo7bo48bo5b2obo15b2o99bo5bo$463bobo5b4o43bo3bo3b
3o18bobo101bo$455b2o4b2o8b2o2bo2b2o40bo5b2o19bo5bo2bob2obo2bo84bo3bo
47bo$455b2o4b2o11b2o2b2o72b2o2bo4bo2b2o84b3o47b4o$461b2o7bo10b2o6b2o
62bo2bob2obo2bo86bo47b2obobo$463bobo4bo10b3o5b2o42b3o162b3obo2bo2b2o$
465bo4bo10b2o50b3o112b2o49b2obobo3b2o$478b2o13b2o37bo3bo112bo50b4o$
478b2o13b2o53b2o96b3o52bo$531b2o3b2o9b2o97bo5bo52b2o$549bo102b2o32b2o
17b2o$651bobo32b2o17b2o$561b2o143bo$561bo2bo140bobo$551bo3b3o7bo126b3o
10bobo$550b5o3bo6bo6b2o118bo13bo$538b2o9b2ob2o3bo7bo6b2o80b2o37bo$538b
2o8b3ob2o3bo3bo2bo90b2o$549b2ob4o5b2o91bo48b2o3b2o$534b2o14b4o15b2o
132bobobobo$534b2o15bo17b2o133b5o$700b2o3b3o$700bobo3bo$568b3o129bo$
568b3o67b3o$640bo51bo$639bo52bo$580b3o108bobo$566b2o3b2o119bo$567b5o7b
o3bo108bo$568b3o8bo3bo108bo10b3o$569bo122bo9b2ob2o$580b3o21b2o41bo43bo
bo8b2ob2o$604b2o39b3o44bo9b5o$644bo47bo8b2o3b2o$580b3o35b2o24b2o$618b
2o$579bo3bo$570bo8bo3bo$571b2o132b2o$570b2o8b3o58b3o$640b2ob2o$640b2ob
2o$604b3o33b5o31b2o25b2o$603bo3bo31b2o3b2o29bobo25b2o$564b2o3b2o31bo5b
o56b2o7b3o$566b3o8bobo23bo3bo57b2o6b3o$565bo3bo8b2o24b3o48bo18b3o5bo$
566bobo9bo25b3o47bobo18bobo4bobo17b2o6b2o$567bo86b2obo18b2o7bo9b2o3bo
4bo2bo4bo$654b2ob2o3b2o30bo5bo4bo2bo4bo$602b2o50b2obo4b2o19b2o10b2o3bo
4bo2bo4bo$603bo50bobo25bo10bobo6b2o6b2o$567b2o16bo14b3o52bo36b2o$567b
2o17b2o6bo5bo58b2o33bo$574bobo5bo3bo5bobo64b2o18b2o3b2o$573bo2bo3bo3b
2o7b2o87bo$564b2o6b2o6bo98bo5bo$564b2o4b2o3bo3bo3b2o74b3o18b2ob2o$572b
2o85b3o19bobo17bo10bo$573bo2bo105bo17b2o9b2o$574bobo71bo33bo12bo4bobo
7b2o4b2o2b2o$693bobo13b3o4b2o2b2o$582b2o3b2o68b2o3b2o22b2o4bobo15b2o4b
2o$582bobobobo59bo9b5o23b2o3bo2bo16b2o$583b5o23bobo33b2o10b3o30bobo17b
o$584b3o22bo3bo46bo21b2o9bobo$585bo23bo14b2o20bo7b3o25b2o11bo$608bo4bo
10bobo18bobo6bo$609bo14bo30bo$603b2o4bo3bo6b2o$602bobo6bobo6bobo22b3o$
602bo19bo22b3o$582b2o17b2o19b2o22bo$583bo$580b3o74b3o$580bo20bobo42bo$
601bo2bo40b3o9bobo$604b2o6b2o31b3o8b5o$602bo3b2o4b2o41b2o3b2o$604b2o
49b2o3b2o$601bo2bo40bobo$565b2o3bo2bo3b2o22bobo42bo$565b5o4b5o3bo75bo$
565b2o3bo2bo3b2o2bo4bo72b2o$581b2o3bo$584bo76bo2$631bo25bo2bo$630b2o9b
2o14b2o$619b2o8b2o4b2o4b2o$578bo14b2o3b2o19b2o7b3o$566b2o10b2o15b3o31b
2o6bo$566b2o9bobo14bo3bo31b2o5bo18b2o6b2o$557b2o3bo6b2o12b2o10bobo33bo
5bo17bo2bo4bo2bo$557bobo3bo5b3o10bo3bo9bo38bobo17bo2bo4bo2bo$558b5o6b
2o10bo5bo3b2o42bobo17bo2bo4bo2bo$559b3o4b2o13bo3bob2o2b2o43bo11bo7b2o
6b2o$566b2o13bo5bo59b2o$582bo3bo8b2o50bobo$583b2o10b2o36b2o3b2o$633b2o
3b2o2$635b3o$635b3o29bo$636bo17b2o2b2o6b4o$649bobo2bob4o5b2obobo3b2o$
647bo3bo3bob2o5b3obo2bo2b2o$640b2o5bo12bo4b2obobo$640b2o4bo4bo14b4o$
647bo19bo$636b2o9bo3bo$636b2o11bobo!


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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby dvgrn » March 30th, 2015, 5:35 pm

codeholic wrote:Speaking about infinitely growing patterns, is such a pattern as a stationary wickstretcher known? It would relate to a gun in the same way as a normal wickstretcher relates to a puffer. Are growing wicks known?

To make the analogy complete, you'd need a wick that could grow into empty space without any support. I can't think of any such things offhand. Wicks generally need to be capped by (moving) wickstretchers. Otherwise they're probably just extensible spaceships in disguise.

There are certainly lots of wicks that need a moving wickstretcher end and a stationary end. -- In which case I seem to recall the stationary end is called a "post", but strangely the Life Lexicon and LifeWiki don't seem to have any confirmation for that.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » March 30th, 2015, 5:58 pm

dvgrn wrote:To make the analogy complete, you'd need a wick that could grow into empty space without any support. I can't think of any such things offhand.

Yes, that's what I meant. In some sense, such a wick would be a unidirectional replicator (it would replicate itself but only on one end).

EDIT: Alternatively, there might be a pattern, that makes a "wave" propagating through a wick and elongating it on the other end.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby towerator » March 30th, 2015, 6:05 pm

codeholic wrote:Yes, that's what I meant. In some sense, such a wick would be a unidirectional replicator (it would replicate itself but only on one end).

EDIT: Alternatively, there might be a pattern, that makes a "wave" propagating through a wick and elongating it on the other end.

It HAS to be "pulses". If it is a 1D replicatior, well, OK, we could get easily a support... but we would need to find it first. And no such object has ever been seen.
Pulses can be gliders, like in the pattern I threw, but it seems like a lazy solution.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby Sphenocorona » March 30th, 2015, 8:53 pm

If a stationary end stabilization can be found for the wick found stabilized in 114P6H1V0, then I think that could be considered a stationary wickstretcher. But such a stabilization would probably be very difficult to make.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby Scorbie » March 30th, 2015, 10:39 pm

This may be a judgement call, but is this kind of what you are looking for?
x = 39, y = 48, rule = B3/S23
8bo6bo7bo6bo$7b3o4b3o5b3o4b3o$2bo4bob2o2b2o2bo3bo2b2o2b2obo4bo$b3o4b3o
2b3obo3bob3o2b3o4b3o$2obo4b3obo2bob2ob2obo2bob3o4bob2o$3o5b2o19b2o5b3o
$b2o5b2obo2b3o5b3o2bob2o5b2o$8b2o2b2o2bobobobo2b2o2b2o$4b2o2b3o6b2ob2o
6b3o2b2o$8b3o17b3o$8b2o8bobo8b2o$18bobo$16bo5bo$17b2ob2o$16bobobobo$
16b2o3b2o$12b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$12bo3b2o3b2o3bo$13bo11bo$11bobo3bo3bo3bobo$
10bobob4o3b4obobo$10bobo4bo3bo4bobo$9b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$12bo3bo5bo
3bo$12bob2obo3bob2obo$13bo11bo$14b2ob2ob2ob2o$11b3o2b2o3b2o2b3o$11bo2b
o9bo2bo$12bobob2o3b2obobo$11b2obo3bobo3bob2o$10bo3bobo5bobo3bo$11bobo
2b2o3b2o2bobo$10b2obob2o5b2obob2o$13bob3o3b3obo$13bo11bo$11b2obo9bob2o
$12bobo3bobo3bobo$12bobo3bobo3bobo$13bob4ob4obo$11bobo4bobo4bobo$10bob
obobobobobobobobo$10bobobobobobobobobobo$11bo2bobobobobobo2bo$12b5obob
ob5o$17bo3bo$11bob4o5b4obo$11b2obo9bob2o!


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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby towerator » March 31st, 2015, 1:11 am

I think he meant a wick that grows, but there is no spaceship on a side to make it grow, it grows on it's own. I'm not sure it's possible.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby dvgrn » March 31st, 2015, 1:14 am

codeholic wrote:EDIT: Alternatively, there might be a pattern, that makes a "wave" propagating through a wick and elongating it on the other end.

For that option, I think the best (only?) example in Conway's Life is Jason Summers' traffic-jam extruder (in Golly's Signal-Circuitry collection). Use goto.py to run it forward to a relatively interesting moment, say T=9576000. Then maybe watch it run in LifeHistory to see what's going on. One of the long "wick-pushing" reactions occurs just before T=9604000.

I think this almost counts -- the traffic lights are "reasonably closely connected" enough to sustain the traffic-jam chain reaction, anyway. But it takes some impressive circuitry to sustain the ever-slower movement of the far end of the wick.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby towerator » March 31st, 2015, 1:30 am

dvgrn wrote:For that option, I think the best (only?) example in Conway's Life is Jason Summers' traffic-jam extruder (in Golly's Signal-Circuitry collection). Use goto.py to run it forward to a relatively interesting moment, say T=9576000. Then maybe watch it run in LifeHistory to see what's going on. One of the long "wick-pushing" reactions occurs just before T=9604000.

I think this almost counts -- the traffic lights are "reasonably closely connected" enough to sustain the traffic-jam chain reaction, anyway. But it takes some impressive circuitry to sustain the ever-slower movement of the far end of the wick.

... but 99,9999% of the time, the traffic lights aren't spaced enough. At almost any moment, you can zoom and see some non-jammed TLs. So, I don't think we can call this a wick. Especially since the inputs aren't regular.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » March 31st, 2015, 3:27 am

@towerator If you take large enough (and growing) period, the traffic lights are in fact "reasonably closely connected"!

@dvgrn Thanks for reminding me of this pattern!
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby HartmutHolzwart » March 31st, 2015, 4:46 am

Would some *WSS-gun ensemble feeding a burning helix from behind count as solution?
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » March 31st, 2015, 10:02 am

I would say no, because in this case *WSS are not "reasonably closely connected".
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby dvgrn » March 31st, 2015, 12:55 pm

codeholic wrote:@dvgrn Thanks for reminding me of this pattern!

Thanks in return for reminding me about it...! It took me most of a day to remember that the pattern even existed, and I had completely forgotten that I had checked it into Golly's pattern collection.

I don't think there are many other known "push" reactions that can do anything even vaguely equivalent. There's almost a way to use a pre-beehive to push a beehive, but it doesn't seem to be possible to chain those reactions cleanly.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby David » April 11th, 2015, 3:43 am

Well, I remember that I thought about such pattern and suggested a name "wickbeam".
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby Kiran » April 14th, 2015, 5:39 pm

So, I don't think we can call this a wick.

Actually there exists a non-zero number k such that if you pick any location on the line of traffic lights, the traffic lights are eventually jammed a fraction of the time that is greater then k, so I think it qualifies as a wick.
By the way, why do the reactions have to occur at such long intervals?
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby biggiemac » April 14th, 2015, 6:17 pm

Kiran wrote:By the way, why do the reactions have to occur at such long intervals?

The reactions don't need the time they're given. However, the TL chain moves around, so there need to be a large number of options to match the possible locations of the first TL. The circuitry to deduce the proper *WSS salvo takes the time (although could likely be improved with current glider manipulation).

This reaction works the same as the *WSS salvo in the typical case.
x = 74, y = 35, rule = LifeHistory
58.A$58.A$45.3A10.A10.3A$26.A$25.A17.A5.A4.3A3.3A4.A5.A$25.3A15.A5.A
17.A5.A$43.A5.A8.A8.A5.A$58.A$45.3A10.A10.3A2$26.3A$26.A$27.A20$.A$.
2A$A.A!


However, the *WSS salvo is able to communicate the termination of a pullback sequence, while this one just gets stuck. I feel like there's a glider salvo that can function the same though, and from it stable circuitry that cuts the pattern's bulk down considerably.

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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » March 24th, 2016, 7:23 am

I'd argue, that this wick would qualify, if one could only make a fencepost for it.
x = 10, y = 312, rule = B3/S23
4b2o$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o
$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$3bo2bo$3b4o5$bo6bo$ob6obo$2o6b2o$4b2o$3b4o
$2b2o2b2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o$b2o4b2o$2bob2obo$2b2o2b2o4$3bo2bo$3bo2bo$
3bo2bo3$2b6o$bo6bo$o8bo$o8bo$3bo2bo$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o4$2b6o$4b2o$2bo4bo$
3bo2bo$3b4o3$3b4o$3b4o$3b4o$4b2o$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$
2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$3bo2bo$3b4o5$b
o6bo$ob6obo$2o6b2o$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o$b2o4b2o$2bob
2obo$2b2o2b2o4$3bo2bo$3bo2bo$3bo2bo3$2b6o$bo6bo$o8bo$o8bo$3bo2bo$2bo4b
o$2b2o2b2o4$2b6o$4b2o$2bo4bo$3bo2bo$3b4o3$3b4o$3b4o$3b4o$4b2o$2bo4bo$b
o6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$
2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$3bo2bo$3b4o5$bo6bo$ob6obo$2o6b2o$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o3$2b
2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o$b2o4b2o$2bob2obo$2b2o2b2o4$3bo2bo$3bo2bo$3bo2bo3$2b6o$
bo6bo$o8bo$o8bo$3bo2bo$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o4$2b6o$4b2o$2bo4bo$3bo2bo$3b4o3$
3b4o$3b4o$3b4o$4b2o$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2ob4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b
2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4bo2$3bo2bo$3b4o5$bo6bo$ob6obo$
2o6b2o$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o$b2o4b2o$2bob2obo$2b2o2b2o
4$3bo2bo$3bo2bo$3bo2bo3$2b6o$bo6bo$o8bo$o8bo$3bo2bo$2bo4bo$2b2o2b2o4$
2b6o$4b2o$2bo4bo$3bo2bo$3b4o3$3b4o$3b4o$3b4o$4b2o$2bo4bo$bo6bo$o8bo$2o
b4ob2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o2b2o2$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o$2bo4bo$4b2o$2bo4bo$2bo4b
o2$3bo2bo$3b4o5$bo6bo$ob6obo$2o6b2o$4b2o$3b4o$2b2o2b2o3$2b2o2b2o$2b2o
2b2o$b2o4b2o$2bob2obo$2b2o2b2o4$3bo2bo$3bo2bo$3bo2bo3$2b6o$bo6bo$o8bo$
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby BlinkerSpawn » March 24th, 2016, 3:13 pm

Does the wick have to be anchored? If not, one could create a slide gun to repeatedly tack units onto the front of the above "wick".
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby gameoflifeboy » March 24th, 2016, 11:27 pm

I have a good idea, but it isn't it Life. Very possibly there is a way to put together two HighLife c/98 spaceships in a line such that they interact in some generations. A gun producing the synthesis of the spaceship could extend the trail, so it would be a wickstretcher.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » May 2nd, 2016, 2:07 am

BlinkerSpawn wrote:Does the wick have to be anchored? If not, one could create a slide gun to repeatedly tack units onto the front of the above "wick".

First of all, a slidegun, in my opinion, can be only marginally qualified as a stationary pattern. Secondly, such patterns have already been built, see Life/Miscellaneous/tubstretch-c124b.rle by Jason Summers (that one makes a stationary pattern grow). But yes, it would be an interesting thing to build. Can anyone come up with a synthesis for the 114P6H1V0 pushalong?
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That would be cheating. A c/98 spaceship can move autonomously and doesn't need a fencepost.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby Scorbie » May 2nd, 2016, 2:40 am

Can such a thing be described formally/mathematically?
Edit: oh, puffer: wickstretcher = gun: stationary wickstretcher... Okay... That was enough for me to get that your criteria is sound enough and not made up of arbitrary rules.
But!!! The wickstretcher in this analogy is a very strict one; one without any stationary support. (I think the TL extender and the QB extender in jslife qualifies.)

I think puffer: typical wickstrestcher = gun: typical wickstretcher.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » May 2nd, 2016, 11:28 am

Scorbie wrote:I think puffer: typical wickstrestcher = gun: typical wickstretcher.

I don't get your relation logic. Here's mine.

Puffer = moving factory, loose periodic product.
Wickstretcher = moving factory, tight periodic product.

Gun = stationary factory, loose periodic product.
Puffer : wickstretcher = gun : X

X = stationary factory, tight periodic product.
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby Scorbie » May 2nd, 2016, 1:16 pm

codeholic wrote:
Scorbie wrote:I think puffer: typical wickstrestcher = gun: typical wickstretcher.

I don't get your relation logic. Here's mine.

Puffer = moving factory, loose periodic product.
Wickstretcher = moving factory, tight periodic product.

Gun = stationary factory, loose periodic product.
Puffer : wickstretcher = gun : X

X = stationary factory, tight periodic product.
Hehe please let me elaborate :)
I am pretty sure the first wickstretcher counts as a wickstretcher:
wickstretcher 1
Moving pattern, tight periodic product.
Note that the periodic product is supported by a stationary part, and the term "wickstretcher" does not require the wick(tight periodic product) to be self-suatainable.

Now let's think about X in the analogy.
Stationary factory, tight periodic product.
And if we follow the analogy as is, the wick(tight periodic product) need not be self sustainable. Thus the following pattern,
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8bo6bo7bo6bo$7b3o4b3o5b3o4b3o$2bo4bob2o2b2o2bo3bo2b2o2b2obo4bo$b3o4b3o
2b3obo3bob3o2b3o4b3o$2obo4b3obo2bob2ob2obo2bob3o4bob2o$3o5b2o19b2o5b3o
$b2o5b2obo2b3o5b3o2bob2o5b2o$8b2o2b2o2bobobobo2b2o2b2o$4b2o2b3o6b2ob2o
6b3o2b2o$8b3o17b3o$8b2o8bobo8b2o$18bobo$16bo5bo$17b2ob2o$16bobobobo$
16b2o3b2o$12b2o3b2ob2o3b2o$12bo3b2o3b2o3bo$13bo11bo$11bobo3bo3bo3bobo$
10bobob4o3b4obobo$10bobo4bo3bo4bobo$9b2obobob2o3b2obobob2o$12bo3bo5bo
3bo$12bob2obo3bob2obo$13bo11bo$14b2ob2ob2ob2o$11b3o2b2o3b2o2b3o$11bo2b
o9bo2bo$12bobob2o3b2obobo$11b2obo3bobo3bob2o$10bo3bobo5bobo3bo$11bobo
2b2o3b2o2bobo$10b2obob2o5b2obob2o$13bob3o3b3obo$13bo11bo$11b2obo9bob2o
$12bobo3bobo3bobo$12bobo3bobo3bobo$13bob4ob4obo$11bobo4bobo4bobo$10bob
obobobobobobobobo$10bobobobobobobobobobo$11bo2bobobobobobo2bo$12b5obob
ob5o$17bo3bo$11bob4o5b4obo$11b2obo9bob2o!
Or, in fact, almost all wickstretchers qualify as X.

Now, the term you should have put instead of "wickstretchers" in the analogy should be a subset of wickstretchers; i.e. wickstretchers that has no stationary part supporting the wick. (I'll call this subset 'Y' later.) The only examples I could find are tub/boatstretchers. Traffic jam stretchers and qb stretchers almost qualify (and may qualify if we tweak it a bit)

If you require the moving part of the wickstretcher to be nonempty when you define the term wickstretcher, interesting things happen. <s>cp4space</s>
Y are the only wickstrerchers that don't qualify as X. And "stationary wickstretchers" are the only subset of X that don't qualify as wickstretchers
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Re: Is there such a thing as a stationary wickstretcher?

Postby codeholic » May 2nd, 2016, 2:11 pm

For me the wickstretcher is just the moving object that elongates a wick. What you refer to as "a stationary part" is normally called a fencepost and is not considered a part of a wickstretcher.
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