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Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 7th, 2015, 12:13 pm

Here, if you find any gun based off simple spaceship syntheses, you can post here. Inspired in the low hanging fruits now.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 7th, 2015, 12:48 pm

Redundant to viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1557 . I'm sorry, but I think it will be locked.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 7th, 2015, 1:14 pm

towerator wrote:Redundant to viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1557 . I'm sorry, but I think it will be locked.

Hey! I already seen that topic. I also inspired on it! But this is not for synthesis, it's for guns that work synthesing spaceships. Also that topic is talking about crappy phoenix chit chat!
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Kazyan » March 7th, 2015, 1:28 pm

Yeah, come to think of it, a weekender gun would be perfect for Golly's synthesis folder. I think Simkin has a script for this, but we'd need a Herschel wizard to get an edge-shooter gun...the p498 gun doesn't have any obvious way to attach the Fx177. I know how to do it, but I don't know how to do it compactly.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby simsim314 » March 7th, 2015, 2:47 pm

Kazyan wrote: I think Simkin has a script for this


I have a script that can take synth and gun (hard-coded into it) to manually adjust the guns building order from the synth in user friendly manner.

Although I'm not sure how useful it was retrospectively, as most of the times people just built the guns combinations by hand.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 7th, 2015, 7:57 pm

We can glider synthesize an eater 1, right??? Now it reacting with a glider, y know what produce?
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 7th, 2015, 8:12 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:We can glider synthesize an eater 1, right??? Now it reacting with a glider, y know what produce?

An eating reaction...
Collisions of gliders with still lifes, much like 2G collisions, are well known, Gustavo...
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 7th, 2015, 8:22 pm

towerator wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote:We can glider synthesize an eater 1, right??? Now it reacting with a glider, y know what produce?

An eating reaction...
Collisions of gliders with still lifes, much like 2G collisions, are well known, Gustavo...

Nope! I actually misnamed the eater 5, and 2 gliders hitting result in a puffer 1!
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 7th, 2015, 8:27 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:
towerator wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote:We can glider synthesize an eater 1, right??? Now it reacting with a glider, y know what produce?

An eating reaction...
Collisions of gliders with still lifes, much like 2G collisions, are well known, Gustavo...

Nope! I actually misnamed the eater 5, and 2 gliders hitting result in a puffer 1!

The "eater 5" is the TWT (tub with tail) eater, I think you got it wrong again.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 7th, 2015, 8:32 pm

towerator wrote:
Gustavo6046 wrote:
towerator wrote:An eating reaction...
Collisions of gliders with still lifes, much like 2G collisions, are well known, Gustavo...

Nope! I actually misnamed the eater 5, and 2 gliders hitting result in a puffer 1!

The "eater 5" is the TWT (tub with tail) eater, I think you got it wrong again.

No, I meant it right, only that TWT + 2 G = PF 1! No matter what!
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby David » March 7th, 2015, 8:39 pm

Gustavo, would you please post pattern with an RLE code? You can simply Ctrl+C Ctrl+V from Golly.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 12:34 pm

Forget the TWIT thing, it was a lie. Now, THIS is real! Five gliders together to create a long tub: (PS: What is the #C, #LETTER thing?)
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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 16 LOOP 53 THEME 6 ]]
#C Long tub synthesis
#C by Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046) and Ivan Formichev (codeholic)
x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
9bobo$9b2o$10bo4$b2o$obo$2bo5b3o$8bo$9bo3$17b2o$16b2o$11b2o5bo$10b2o$
12bo!
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby mniemiec » March 9th, 2015, 12:46 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Forget the TWIT thing, it was a lie. Now, THIS is real! Five gliders together to create a long tub:

This is called a barge, and there are many ways to create it from merely 3 gliders - that have been known for 40 years. All still-lifes up to 9 bits can be synthesized from 4 gliders or less.
Gustavo6046 wrote:(PS: What is the #C, #LETTER thing?)

The RLE specification allows comment lines that begin with #, that are typically ignored. #C is for true comments, while other letters may include other metadata that is outside of RLE's purvue (e.g. Golly stores top/left coordinate and starting generation number in such a line), and some letters are used to indicate a pattern's discoverer, date of discovery, and other similar metadata.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 9th, 2015, 12:47 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Forget the TWIT thing, it was a lie. Now, THIS is real! Five gliders together to create a long tub: (PS: What is the #C, #LETTER thing?)
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#C [[ THUMBNAIL AUTOSTART GPS 16 LOOP 53 THEME 6 ]]
#C Long tub synthesis
#C by Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046) and Ivan Formichev (codeholic)
x = 19, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
9bobo$9b2o$10bo4$b2o$obo$2bo5b3o$8bo$9bo3$17b2o$16b2o$11b2o5bo$10b2o$
12bo!

1. This pattern isn't a "long tub", it's a barge.
2. There is a synthesis with only 3 gliders of it
3. Damn, you aren't even in the topic of this thread that you yourself created!
4. #C allows to put text in RLEs wothout messing it.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 12:49 pm

I though barge was a spaceship. Heh. Actually I think it should be renamed to "floating barge" or so.
Also which letters are used to store discoverer, discover year, no. of cells, etc.? In a detailed table, if we can do any in the forums? OR better, in one or more lists?
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 9th, 2015, 12:58 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:I though barge was a spaceship. Heh. Actually I think it should be renamed to "floating barge" or so.
Also which letters are used to store discoverer, discover year, no. of cells, etc.? In a detailed table, if we can do any in the forums? OR better, in one or more lists?


I don't know for still lifes and oscillators, but here's the standard denomination of spaceships:
XPAHBVC(.D)
X= number of cells in the minimal phase
P= Period
H= Unmber of cells travelled in a direction in 1 period
C= Nuber of cells travelled in the perpendiculary direction in 1 period (irrevalent for orthogonal spaceships)
D= Applies if several spaceships would get the same name. The first discoverd gets "1", the second gets "2", and so on.

As an example, the loafer is 20P7H1V0
The smallest c/3 ship is 25P3H1V0.2
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 1:22 pm

Great! Great! Now I can name my rakes, guns and spaceships accordingly! (wait, my GUN, it is ONE gun, also it only names spaceships, though one of them is only called "the Demon Eye"...)
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby towerator » March 9th, 2015, 4:03 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Great! Great! Now I can name my rakes, guns and spaceships accordingly! (wait, my GUN, it is ONE gun, also it only names spaceships, though one of them is only called "the Demon Eye"...)

The fact you can name them the standard way don't make them more interesting. Nowadays, the only interesting c/2s exhibit a previously unknown proprety. There is still to discover:
x = 54, y = 29, rule = B3/S23
27bobo18bo$15bo8bobo2bo6bo8b4o$12b4o7bo2bo6b2obobo6b2o$9b4obo7b2o4bo4b
o5bobobo$9b2o3bo6bo6bo4bo5b4o2b2o$7bo3b2obobobob4o4b2obo6b2o3bo3bo$7b
4obo3b2o6bo6bo2bo3bobo3b3o3b2o$6bo7bobo2b2obo9bobobo9b6o$5b6obobo3b2ob
2obo13bo13bo$2b2o7b2obo4b2o3bo2bobo5b2o4bo2b8o$bo3b3ob2o10b2obo2b2obo
2b2o3bobo3bo2bo$o3bo4b2o8b2obo6b2o2b3o2bo3bo2b2o2bobo$o5bo3b2o6b2o4bo
5b2o8b2o3b2obo2bo$3o3b4obo5b2o2b3o7b7o2b3o2b2obo2bo$16b3obo24b2obo2bob
o$3o3b4obo5b2o2b3o7b7o2b3o2b2obo2bo$o5bo3b2o6b2o4bo5b2o8b2o3b2obo2bo$o
3bo4b2o8b2obo6b2o2b3o2bo3bo2b2o2bobo$bo3b3ob2o10b2obo2b2obo2b2o3bobo3b
o2bo$2b2o7b2obo4b2o3bo2bobo5b2o4bo2b8o$5b6obobo3b2ob2obo13bo13bo$6bo7b
obo2b2obo9bobobo9b6o$7b4obo3b2o6bo6bo2bo3bobo3b3o3b2o$7bo3b2obobobob4o
4b2obo6b2o3bo3bo$9b2o3bo6bo6bo4bo5b4o2b2o$9b4obo7b2o4bo4bo5bobobo$12b
4o7bo2bo6b2obobo6b2o$15bo8bobo2bo6bo8b4o$27bobo18bo!

This is the only c/2 we know with a period of 34. We know no rake, no spaceship, no versatile puffer (obviously). If you want a challenge, you're welcome.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » March 9th, 2015, 5:10 pm

I TRIED to put a hwss and a mwss but they EXPLODE...
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby gmc_nxtman » July 18th, 2015, 8:28 pm

Not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but has anybody got a p92 edge shooter which can inject the red glider into this salvo? Can be based on herschel technology.

x = 110, y = 144, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A5.2A$9.2A2.2A5.2A2.2A$9.2A13.2A3$13.3A3.3A$12.A2BA3.A2BA$12.A3BA
.A3BA$11.2A.ABA.ABA.2A19.A$11.2AB2A3.2AB2A18.3A4.2A$12.3A5.3A18.A3BA
3.2A$41.2A.2A$41.2A.2A$40.3B.3B$41.2A.2A$41.2A.2A$41.AB.BA$42.3A$43.A
3$14.2B$44.B3.B$44.B3.B$2.2A$2.2A10.3B3.2A20.A7.A$11.A.B2.AB2.2A19.4A
3.4A$10.A2B2.3B23.A3BA.A3BA$10.AB2A2.A25.A2BA.A2BA$11.ABAB2A25.3A3.3A
$12.A3BA$13.2A4$60.2A$2.3A3.3A31.2A15.BA2BA$.A3BA.A3BA30.2A9.3A4.4B$A
3B2A.2A3BA39.A3BA.A5B$AB2A2B.2B2ABA39.AB.BA.A3B2A$.BA2B3.2BAB35.2A4.
2A.B.B.2B$2.2B5.2B36.2A6.AB.BA$2.2B5.2B3$53.2A5.2A33.2A$2.3AB.2B44.3B
3.3B33.2A$2.ABA4.B42.A4B.4BA$.AB.BA.6B39.A3BA.A3BA26.A5.A$.A3BA.3B.2B
39.A3BA.A3BA25.3A3.3A$2.3B5.3B24.2BA13.ABA3.ABA26.A2BA.A2BA$2.3A4.2A
2B24.3BA13.A5.A26.2B.2A.2A.2B$9.2A27.3A46.2B2.B.B2.2B$86.3B7.3B$23.2A
62.3B5.3B$22.BABA11.2B49.A3B.3BA$20.B2.2BA10.BABA49.ABA.ABA$9.A9.4B3A
11.B2A48.BABA.ABAB$7.3A9.5B14.A48.BAB2A.2ABAB$6.A81.2A5.2A$7.3A9.5B
31.2A.2A$9.A9.4B3A30.A.A$20.B2.2BA30.A.A$22.BABA31.A$23.2A$34.B5.2A$
33.BAB4.2A$33.3A$32.A3.A$32.2A.2A$32.2B.2B$32.B3AB69.2A$33.3A52.2A4.A
11.2A$60.2BA25.2A3.ABA$60.3BA28.2A.2B$61.3A28.2ABA$33.B7.B51.2AB$32.
4B3.4B51.AB2.B$31.B.2B2A.2A2B.B16.2B$31.B.2B2A.2A2B.B15.BABA37.A5.A$
32.2B.2A.2A.2B17.B2A36.3A3.3A$32.BAB2A.2ABAB18.A36.A2B2A.2A2BA$33.3A
3.3A56.3A2B.2B3A$34.A5.A58.B7.B2$100.2B3.2B$101.2B.2B$80.2B$79.ABAB$
79.2AB$80.A$105.3A$40.2A62.AB.BA$40.2A62.2A.2A$104.BA.AB$103.3B.3B$
83.2BA18.BA.AB$83.3BA17.2AB2A$84.3A12.2A3.A3BA$99.2A4.3A2$50.3B13.B
16.2B$47.2A2BABA13.B14.BABA$40.2A4.3ABA3BA28.B2A$40.2A3.2AB2.3BA30.A$
46.AB5A11.B$47.3AB$64.B$47.3AB$46.AB5A$45.2AB2.3BA25.B$46.3ABA3BA23.B
AB$47.2A2BABA24.2B2A$50.3B21.2A3.2A$74.2A5$106.2BA$67.3A3.3A30.3BA$
66.A2BA3.A2BA30.3A$66.A3BA.A3BA$65.2A.ABA.ABA.2A$65.2AB2A3.2AB2A28.2B
$66.3A5.3A28.BABA$97.2B7.B2A$96.BDBD7.A$97.B2D$98.D2$68.A$67.ABA$66.A
3BA31.B$66.5A30.BAB$65.ABA.ABA29.2B2A$66.AB.BA31.2A2$66.AB.BA$65.ABA.
ABA$66.5A3.2A$66.A3BA3.2A$67.ABA$68.A!
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby codeholic » July 19th, 2015, 9:58 am

Gustavo6046 wrote:Forget the TWIT thing, it was a lie.

1. You were warned about lying.

Gustavo6046 wrote:Now, THIS is real! Five gliders together to create a long tub: (PS: What is the #C, #LETTER thing?)

2. You were warned that you're not allowed to post messages anywhere except one thread.

Gustavo6046 wrote:#C by Gustavo Ramos Rehermann (Gustavo6046) and Ivan Formichev (codeholic)

3. I have nothing to do with this ridiculous 5-glider synthesis of a barge. Yet another lie.

Gustavo, you're banned for a month in total. I think it's gonna be the last time-limited ban. The next one is going to be permanent. And yeah, you're also banned for the same time on the wiki, preventively.

P. S. It was pointed out to me that the post is dated by March, thus it is not fair to punish you now. Okay, let's say, you're lucky this time. But I'll be watching you more carefully from now on. Don't provoke me, because I'm angry.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby Gustavo6046 » July 19th, 2015, 11:46 am

Yeah, it's been a time since I leaved my old, rusty manners, of posting things trivially. Now I avoid posting every pattern, or even getting too much offtopic (except by ocasional, small and non-breaking sidenotes). Bad old days, but school has been an hassle and now I have to be almost a sir. Either way, returning to the topic...

I am planning a pn,n=>30 HWSS gun out of fun, but I need to know how to make an HWSS striking a LWSS with gliders.
The following is the current prototype stage: (without the LWSS>HWSS part) (first one written using Notepad++'s macro function)
#N Current p30 HWSS gun prototype (v0.01)
#O Gustavo Ramos ""Smartnerd Rehermann
#O gugurehermann@gmail.com
#O July 19 2015, 12:53 GMT-03:00
#C The prototype of a p30 HWSS
#C gun. It is currently
#C missing a vital part: the
#C LWSS>HWSS part using gliders.
x = 110, y = 50, rule = B3/S23
87bo$86bobo$74b2o10b2obo7b2o$74b2o10b2ob2o6bobo$86b2obob3o6bo7b2o$86bo
bo2bo2bo2bo2bo7b2o$87bo4b2o6bo$97bobo$97b2o2$84bobo$84b2o$85bo4$56bobo
$56bo2bo18bo$41bo6bo10b2o6b2o7b2o$40bobo5bo8bo3b2o4b2o8b2o$33b2o4bob2o
6bo9b2o$33b2o3b2ob2o9b2o2bo2bo$39bob2o5b3o2bo2bobo$40bobo7b4o$41bo9b2o
$69bobo$69b2o$70bo$59bo$60b2o$59b2o2$16bo2bo26bo2bo13bo$4o11bo14b4o11b
o15b2o$o3bo10bo3bo10bo3bo10bo3bo12b2o$o14b4o11bo14b4o8b3o$bo2bo26bo2bo
22bo$58bo4$65bo2bo8bo$65bo10bobo$61bo2bo3b2o5bo3b2o$58b4o3b2obobo4bo3b
2o3b2o$57b4o14bo3b2o3b2o$50b2o5bo2bo8b2o5bobo$50b2o5b4o16bo$58b4o$61bo
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby codeholic » July 19th, 2015, 12:41 pm

Gustavo6046 wrote:Yeah, it's been a time since I leaved my old, rusty manners, of posting things trivially.

I don't think so.

And by the way, in just one hour while I was away:

1. You created posts in 4 (!) different threads, of which 0 (!) are of any interest for anyone except you.
2. You posted in 3 threads, that you're not allowed to post in (reminder: you're allowed to create posts in the only dedicated thread).
3. You started to sort out your personal relationships to Michael Simkin in public, while nobody cares less about them than Michael Simkin.

So I think there are enough (recent) reasons now, thank you for the justification. One week you go.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby dvgrn » July 19th, 2015, 10:25 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Not sure if this is the right thread to post this, but has anybody got a p92 edge shooter which can inject the red glider into this salvo? Can be based on herschel technology.

Sure, seems like a fine place for this question... Let's see, if something works at p66 it must work at p92, right? Here's a quick-and-dirty adaptation of chris_c's edge-shooting mechanism:

x = 294, y = 336, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A5.2A$9.2A2.2A5.2A2.2A$9.2A13.2A3$13.3A3.3A$12.A2.A3.A2.A$12.A3.A
.A3.A$11.2A.A.A.A.A.2A19.A$11.2A.2A3.2A.2A18.3A4.2A$12.3A5.3A18.A3.A
3.2A$41.2A.2A$41.2A.2A2$41.2A.2A$41.2A.2A$41.A3.A$42.3A$43.A6$2.2A$2.
2A16.2A20.A7.A$11.A4.A3.2A19.4A3.4A$10.A30.A3.A.A3.A$10.A.2A2.A25.A2.
A.A2.A$11.A.A.2A25.3A3.3A$12.A3.A$13.2A4$60.2A$2.3A3.3A31.2A16.A2.A$.
A3.A.A3.A30.2A9.3A$A3.2A.2A3.A39.A3.A.A$A.2A5.2A.A39.A3.A.A3.2A$2.A7.
A36.2A4.2A$47.2A6.A3.A4$53.2A5.2A33.2A$2.3A90.2A$2.A.A47.A9.A$.A3.A
46.A3.A.A3.A26.A5.A$.A3.A46.A3.A.A3.A25.3A3.3A$39.A13.A.A3.A.A26.A2.A
.A2.A$2.3A4.2A29.A13.A5.A29.2A.2A$9.2A27.3A2$23.2A$23.A.A62.A7.A$25.A
11.A.A49.A.A.A.A$9.A13.3A12.2A49.A.A.A.A$7.3A28.A49.A.2A.2A.A$6.A81.
2A5.2A$7.3A45.2A.2A$9.A13.3A30.A.A$25.A30.A.A$23.A.A31.A$23.2A$40.2A$
34.A5.2A$33.3A$32.A3.A$32.2A.2A2$33.3A70.2A$33.3A52.2A4.A11.2A$62.A
25.2A3.A.A$63.A28.2A$61.3A28.2A.A$93.2A$94.A$35.2A.2A$35.2A.2A20.A.A
37.A5.A$35.2A.2A21.2A36.3A3.3A$33.A.2A.2A.A19.A36.A2.2A.2A2.A$33.3A3.
3A56.3A5.3A$34.A5.A5$79.A.A$79.2A$80.A$105.3A$40.2A62.A3.A$40.2A62.2A
.2A$105.A.A2$85.A19.A.A$86.A17.2A.2A$84.3A12.2A3.A3.A$99.2A4.3A3$47.
2A2.A.A29.A.A$40.2A4.3A.A3.A29.2A$40.2A3.2A6.A30.A$46.A.5A$47.3A2$47.
3A$46.A.5A$45.2A6.A$46.3A.A3.A24.A$47.2A2.A.A26.2A$74.2A3.2A$74.2A5$
108.A$67.3A3.3A33.A$66.A2.A3.A2.A30.3A$66.A3.A.A3.A$65.2A.A.A.A.A.2A$
65.2A.2A3.2A.2A$66.3A5.3A29.A.A$107.2A$107.A4$68.A$67.A.A$66.A3.A$66.
5A31.A$65.A.A.A.A31.2A$66.A3.A31.2A2$66.A3.A$65.A.A.A.A17.2A$66.5A3.
2A13.A.A$66.A3.A3.2A15.A4.2A$67.A.A17.4A.2A2.A2.A31.A$68.A18.A2.A.A.A
.A.2A32.A$90.A.A.A.A33.3A$91.2A.A.A$95.A2$81.2A46.A.A$82.A7.2A38.2A$
82.A.A5.2A38.A$83.2A3$79.2A$53.2A24.A.A$53.2A26.A$60.2A19.2A42.A$58.
5A30.2A8.A22.2A$52.2A3.A4.A14.2A14.A7.A.A21.2A$52.2A3.A2.3A14.2A15.3A
5.2A$57.2A2.A34.A$59.2A2$59.2A17.A.3A$57.2A2.A19.A72.A$52.2A3.A2.3A
20.A71.A$52.2A3.A4.A17.2A.A69.3A$58.5A17.A.A7.2A$60.2A16.A2.A7.A$53.
2A24.2A7.A2.2A10.2A$53.2A33.A2.A11.2A14.2A31.A.A$88.A.A27.A2.A31.2A$
89.2A26.A2.A32.A$116.A11.A$89.2A9.2A14.A4.A.A5.A$88.A.A7.2A3.A13.A9.
3A$76.2A10.A2.A6.A4.A20.A$76.2A10.A2.2A5.2A3.A18.3A$89.A10.2A20.3A$
90.2A56.A$149.2A$148.2A6$177.A$61.2A14.2A99.A$61.2A15.2A96.3A$74.5A7.
A$74.4A8.3A9.2A$89.A9.2A5.3A$64.2A8.4A8.3A9.A9.A66.A.A$63.A.A.2A5.5A
7.A20.A68.2A$62.2A3.2A9.2A96.A$63.A.A.2A8.2A72.A$64.2A86.A$50.A.A2.2A
93.3A$35.2A12.A3.A.3A$35.2A13.A6.2A$51.5A.A8.2A$54.3A9.2A103.A$35.A.A
3.A.A128.2A$37.A3.A12.3A114.2A$33.A11.A5.5A.A$32.A3.A5.A3.A3.A6.2A3.
2A$33.A11.A3.A3.A.3A4.2A$37.A3.A8.A.A2.2A$35.A.A3.A.A$95.4A7.2A92.A$
94.A3.A6.A2.A12.2A78.A$94.A10.A2.2A11.2A76.3A$95.A.2A.A4.A2.A$75.2A
21.3A6.A$76.2A5.3A$75.A9.A12.3A6.A90.A.A$84.A12.2A.A4.A2.A90.2A$96.A
8.A2.2A89.A$97.2A6.A2.A65.A$98.A7.2A67.A$173.3A4$194.A$195.2A$27.2A
165.2A$27.2A141.A$170.2A6.2A$85.A5.A77.A.A5.A.A$26.2A7.2A14.2A31.3A3.
3A86.A$26.2A6.2A15.2A30.2A.2A.2A.2A$35.5A42.3A7.3A128.A$36.4A184.A$
84.A7.A129.3A$36.4A15.2A143.A$35.5A6.A4.A3.2A80.2A59.A.A$26.2A6.2A10.
2A.2A.2A66.2A15.A.A59.2A$26.2A7.2A9.3A.A.2A32.2A.2A29.2A15.A.2A80.A.A
$48.3A2.A16.A67.2A5.A76.2A$49.A2.2A11.A3.A16.2A.2A47.A6.3A74.A$27.2A
22.A12.A8.2A2.2A69.A$27.2A35.A2.2A5.A2.2A7.2A.2A30.2A3.2A10.A6.3A$65.
2A5.A.A12.A.A30.A.2A.2A.A9.2A5.A$66.3A3.2A13.A.A30.A7.A8.A.2A$88.A31.
A.2A.2A.A8.A.A$66.3A3.2A47.2A3.2A9.2A$65.2A5.A.A142.A$50.2A12.A2.2A5.
A19.2A12.2A2.A4.2A99.2A$50.2A12.A8.2A19.2A12.A.2A6.2A97.2A$65.A3.A39.
A6.A.A28.A$70.A38.3A4.2A29.2A6.2A$146.A.A5.A.A$109.3A4.2A38.A$109.A6.
A.A$108.A.2A6.2A.2A123.A$108.2A2.A4.2A2.2A65.2A57.A$132.A55.2A55.3A$
133.A32.2A55.A$131.3A34.A52.A.A$153.2A10.2A2.A10.2A40.2A$153.2A11.A2.
A10.2A62.A.A$167.A.A75.2A$167.2A66.D.D7.A$236.2D$156.2A9.2A67.D$154.A
3.2A7.A.A18.3A3.3A$154.A4.A6.A2.A18.A2.A.A2.A$154.A3.2A5.2A2.A18.A7.A
$156.2A10.A$166.2A21.A5.A44.A$190.2A.2A46.2A$240.2A$124.A104.3A$124.
2A89.2A11.A2.A$123.A.A89.2A10.A4.A$86.2A141.A$86.2A56.A5.A38.A$143.3A
3.3A36.A.A39.2A37.A$93.2A48.A.2A.2A.A38.A38.A.A38.A$85.2A5.A.A15.2A
33.2A.2A36.A42.A.A36.3A$85.2A4.2A.A15.2A33.2A.2A36.A2.A$92.2A51.2A.2A
27.2A8.A.2A$93.A83.2A7.A3.A4.2A16.2A.2A2.2A$185.2A3.A4.2A17.A.A2.A.A
45.A.A$93.A17.A74.A2.A15.A7.A3.2A16.2A31.2A$92.2A12.A4.2A74.4A14.3A6.
2A.A17.A22.A.A7.A$85.2A4.2A.A11.A5.2A76.2A16.A6.A.A2.A3.A11.3A20.2A$
85.2A5.A.A17.3A75.2A15.2A6.A.A.A.A.A14.A20.A$93.2A17.3A19.2A80.2A.2A
2.3A$112.2A10.2A7.4A$86.2A24.A9.2A2.A6.A.A.A$86.2A34.6A4.3A.2A7.2A.2A
$122.4A5.A.2A11.A.A64.2A2.A.A43.A$131.A.2A11.A.A66.2A2.A44.2A$147.A
49.2A13.A2.2A2.A43.2A$131.A.2A42.2A5.2A11.2A13.A.A2.2A$122.4A5.A.2A
42.A.2A.2A.A$109.2A11.6A4.A2.A42.A.A.A.A$109.2A11.2A2.A6.2A43.A.A.A.A
$124.2A7.2A42.A7.A48.2A$234.2A56.A$194.2A14.2A16.2A63.A$194.A14.2A17.
2A61.3A$179.2A.2A11.A15.A$177.A2.A.A2.A8.2A$177.3A3.3A44.2A$178.A5.A
38.2A5.2A58.A.A$223.2A66.2A$184.2A95.A.A7.A$184.2A96.2A$241.3A7.2A29.
A$227.2A11.A4.A4.A2.A$227.2A10.A5.A4.A2.A$240.A8.A3.A$241.2A8.2A$286.
A$223.2A16.2A8.2A34.2A$223.2A15.A8.A36.2A$239.A5.A8.2A$240.A4.A9.A$
217.A23.3A7.A$217.A2.2A29.A2.A$201.2A13.A5.A$201.2A14.A.A2.2A$217.A3.
2A$219.3A$202.2A3.2A$201.A2.A.A2.A9.3A$200.A9.A6.A3.2A$199.2A9.2A5.A.
A2.2A4.2A$200.A9.A5.A5.A5.2A$201.A2.A.A2.A7.A2.2A$202.2A3.2A8.A!

This inserts the red glider with no other changes to the original shotgun. I did as little work as possible, so this is guaranteed to be highly sub-optimal -- but it might give an idea about where to start.

The new chris_c glider pusher mechanism probably doesn't really have to be used twice in a row. Maybe the gliders could be built in a different order. I added a second pusher just because it didn't seem to be possible to reflect a stream-crossing glider to the input lane of the first pusher.

I'm far from being a p92 circuitry expert -- there might be a much easier solution. Therefore the best bet is to publish something that works but isn't really any good, and hope someone else will improve it... Anyone have a better edge-shooter to donate? I think the "Edge Shooters of Every Period" thread doesn't have anything useful yet, because the Herschel-based p78+ edge shooter doesn't have enough clearance.
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Re: Thread For Synthesisable Spaceship Guns

Postby gmc_nxtman » July 19th, 2015, 11:30 pm

Thank you sooo much! Here is an unoptimized p92 x66 half on HWSS gun based on that, and some of my own quadrants:

x = 414, y = 453, rule = B3/S23
13b2o5b2o$9b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$9b2o13b2o3$13b3o3b3o$12bo2bo3bo2bo$12bo3bob
o3bo$11b2obobobobob2o19bo$11b2ob2o3b2ob2o18b3o4b2o$12b3o5b3o18bo3bo3b
2o$41b2ob2o$41b2ob2o2$41b2ob2o$41b2ob2o$41bo3bo$42b3o$43bo6$2b2o$2b2o
16b2o20bo7bo$11bo4bo3b2o19b4o3b4o$10bo30bo3bobo3bo$10bob2o2bo25bo2bobo
2bo$11bobob2o25b3o3b3o$12bo3bo$13b2o4$60b2o$2b3o3b3o31b2o16bo2bo$bo3bo
bo3bo30b2o9b3o$o3b2ob2o3bo39bo3bobo$ob2o5b2obo39bo3bobo3b2o$2bo7bo36b
2o4b2o$47b2o6bo3bo4$53b2o5b2o33b2o$2b3o90b2o$2bobo47bo9bo$bo3bo46bo3bo
bo3bo26bo5bo$bo3bo46bo3bobo3bo25b3o3b3o$39bo13bobo3bobo26bo2bobo2bo$2b
3o4b2o29bo13bo5bo29b2ob2o$9b2o27b3o2$23b2o$23bobo62bo7bo$25bo11bobo49b
obobobo$9bo13b3o12b2o49bobobobo$7b3o28bo49bob2ob2obo$6bo81b2o5b2o$7b3o
45b2ob2o$9bo13b3o30bobo$25bo30bobo$23bobo31bo$23b2o$40b2o$34bo5b2o$33b
3o$32bo3bo$32b2ob2o2$33b3o70b2o$33b3o52b2o4bo11b2o$62bo25b2o3bobo$63bo
28b2o$61b3o28b2obo$93b2o$94bo$35b2ob2o$35b2ob2o20bobo37bo5bo$35b2ob2o
21b2o36b3o3b3o$33bob2ob2obo19bo36bo2b2ob2o2bo$33b3o3b3o56b3o5b3o$34bo
5bo5$79bobo$79b2o$80bo$105b3o$40b2o62bo3bo$40b2o62b2ob2o$105bobo2$85bo
19bobo$86bo17b2ob2o$84b3o12b2o3bo3bo$99b2o4b3o3$47b2o2bobo29bobo$40b2o
4b3obo3bo29b2o$40b2o3b2o6bo30bo$46bob5o$47b3o2$47b3o$46bob5o$45b2o6bo$
46b3obo3bo24bo$47b2o2bobo26b2o$74b2o3b2o$74b2o5$108bo$67b3o3b3o33bo$
66bo2bo3bo2bo30b3o$66bo3bobo3bo$65b2obobobobob2o$65b2ob2o3b2ob2o$66b3o
5b3o29bobo$107b2o$107bo4$68bo$67bobo$66bo3bo$66b5o31bo$65bobobobo31b2o
$66bo3bo31b2o2$66bo3bo$65bobobobo17b2o$66b5o3b2o13bobo$66bo3bo3b2o15bo
4b2o$67bobo17b4ob2o2bo2bo31bo$68bo18bo2bobobobob2o32bo$90bobobobo33b3o
$91b2obobo$95bo2$81b2o46bobo$82bo7b2o38b2o$82bobo5b2o38bo$83b2o3$79b2o
$53b2o24bobo$53b2o26bo$60b2o19b2o42bo$58b5o30b2o8bo22b2o$52b2o3bo4bo
14b2o14bo7bobo21b2o$52b2o3bo2b3o14b2o15b3o5b2o$57b2o2bo34bo$59b2o2$59b
2o17bob3o$57b2o2bo19bo72bo$52b2o3bo2b3o20bo71bo$52b2o3bo4bo17b2obo69b
3o$58b5o17bobo7b2o$60b2o16bo2bo7bo$53b2o24b2o7bo2b2o10b2o$53b2o33bo2bo
11b2o14b2o31bobo$88bobo27bo2bo31b2o$89b2o26bo2bo32bo$116bo11bo$89b2o9b
2o14bo4bobo5bo$88bobo7b2o3bo13bo9b3o$76b2o10bo2bo6bo4bo20bo$76b2o10bo
2b2o5b2o3bo18b3o$89bo10b2o20b3o$90b2o56bo$149b2o$148b2o6$177bo$61b2o
14b2o99bo$61b2o15b2o96b3o$74b5o7bo$74b4o8b3o9b2o$89bo9b2o5b3o$64b2o8b
4o8b3o9bo9bo66bobo$63bobob2o5b5o7bo20bo68b2o$62b2o3b2o9b2o96bo$63bobob
2o8b2o72bo$64b2o86bo$50bobo2b2o93b3o$35b2o12bo3bob3o$35b2o13bo6b2o$51b
5obo8b2o$54b3o9b2o103bo$35bobo3bobo128b2o$37bo3bo12b3o114b2o$33bo11bo
5b5obo$32bo3bo5bo3bo3bo6b2o3b2o$33bo11bo3bo3bob3o4b2o$37bo3bo8bobo2b2o
$35bobo3bobo$95b4o7b2o92bo$94bo3bo6bo2bo12b2o78bo167b2o5b2o$94bo10bo2b
2o11b2o76b3o163b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$95bob2obo4bo2bo256b2o13b2o$75b2o21b3o6b
o$76b2o5b3o$75bo9bo12b3o6bo90bobo$84bo12b2obo4bo2bo90b2o$96bo8bo2b2o
89bo$97b2o6bo2bo65bo$98bo7b2o67bo$173b3o4$194bo$195b2o171b2obo3bob2o$
27b2o165b2o172bo2bo3bo2bo$27b2o141bo198b3o3b3o$170b2o6b2o$85bo5bo77bob
o5bobo$26b2o7b2o14b2o31b3o3b3o86bo$26b2o6b2o15b2o30b2ob2ob2ob2o$35b5o
42b3o7b3o128bo$36b4o184bo$84bo7bo129b3o162b2o$36b4o15b2o143bo168b2o15b
o2bo$35b5o6bo4bo3b2o80b2o59bobo168b2o10bo7bo$26b2o6b2o10b2ob2ob2o66b2o
15bobo59b2o179bobo3bo2bo$26b2o7b2o9b3obob2o32b2ob2o29b2o15bob2o80bobo
155b2ob2ob2ob2o$48b3o2bo16bo67b2o5bo76b2o159bobo$49bo2b2o11bo3bo16b2ob
2o47bo6b3o74bo159b2ob2o$27b2o22bo12bo8b2o2b2o69bo$27b2o35bo2b2o5bo2b2o
7b2ob2o30b2o3b2o10bo6b3o222bo$65b2o5bobo12bobo30bob2ob2obo9b2o5bo222b
2o$66b3o3b2o13bobo30bo7bo8bob2o191bo36b2o$88bo31bob2ob2obo8bobo191b2o
15b2o30b3o3b3o$66b3o3b2o47b2o3b2o9b2o191b2o16b2o29bo9bo$65b2o5bobo142b
o106bo6b2o2b2o42bo3bobo3bo$50b2o12bo2b2o5bo19b2o12b2o2bo4b2o99b2o102b
3o55b3o3b3o$50b2o12bo8b2o19b2o12bob2o6b2o97b2o102bo23bo35bo5bo$65bo3bo
39bo6bobo28bo174b3o18b5o$70bo38b3o4b2o29b2o6b2o167bo6b2o2b2o5b2obo2bo$
146bobo5bobo173b2o9bo7bo$109b3o4b2o38bo174b2o9b2obo2bo$109bo6bobo213bo
10b5o$108bob2o6b2ob2o123bo98bo$108b2o2bo4b2o2b2o65b2o57bo$132bo55b2o
55b3o$133bo32b2o55bo$131b3o34bo52bobo158b2ob2o$153b2o10b2o2bo10b2o40b
2o159bobo$153b2o11bo2bo10b2o62bobo136bobo$167bobo75b2o137bo$167b2o76bo
151b2o$340bo23bo32b2o$156b2o9b2o171bobo4bo15b2o$154bo3b2o7bobo18b3o3b
3o143b2o3b2o16bobo13bob2o$154bo4bo6bo2bo18bo2bobo2bo149b2o25b2o3bo2b2o
2b3o10b2o$154bo3b2o5b2o2bo18bo7bo176b2o3bo6b2o11b2o$156b2o10bo209b2o3b
3o$166b2o21bo5bo44bo139bo3bo$190b2ob2o46b2o$240b2o138bo3bo$124bo104b3o
146b2o3b3o$124b2o89b2o11bo2bo146bo6b2o11b2o$123bobo89b2o10bo4bo145bo2b
2o2b3o10b2o$86b2o141bo149bob2o$86b2o56bo5bo38bo180b3o$143b3o3b3o36bobo
39b2o37bo87b3o8b2obob2o22b2o$93b2o48bob2ob2obo38bo38bobo38bo86bo3bo5bo
5b2o22b2o$85b2o5bobo15b2o33b2ob2o36bo42bobo36b3o79bo6bo4bo5b2obob2o$
85b2o4b2obo15b2o33b2ob2o36bo2bo158b3o7bo3bo7b3o$92b2o51b2ob2o27b2o8bob
2o156bo$93bo83b2o7bo3bo4b2o16b2ob2o2b2o126b3o7bo3bo$185b2o3bo4b2o17bob
o2bobo45bobo80bo6bo4bo$93bo17bo74bo2bo15bo7bo3b2o16b2o31b2o87bo3bo12b
2o$92b2o12bo4b2o74b4o14b3o6b2obo17bo22bobo7bo88b3o14b2o$85b2o4b2obo11b
o5b2o76b2o16bo6bobo2bo3bo11b3o20b2o56bo$85b2o5bobo17b3o75b2o15b2o6bobo
bobobo14bo20bo57bobo4bo$93b2o17b3o19b2o80b2ob2o2b3o91b2o3b2o$112b2o10b
2o7b4o186b2o$86b2o24bo9b2o2bo6bobobo$86b2o34b6o4b3ob2o7b2ob2o$122b4o5b
ob2o11bobo64b2o2bobo43bo$131bob2o11bobo66b2o2bo44b2o$147bo49b2o13bo2b
2o2bo43b2o$131bob2o42b2o5b2o11b2o13bobo2b2o$122b4o5bob2o42bob2ob2obo$
109b2o11b6o4bo2bo42bobobobo$109b2o11b2o2bo6b2o43bobobobo$124b2o7b2o42b
o7bo48b2o$234b2o56bo$194b2o14b2o16b2o63bo$194bo14b2o17b2o61b3o$179b2ob
2o11bo15bo$177bo2bobo2bo8b2o$177b3o3b3o44b2o$178bo5bo38b2o5b2o58bobo$
223b2o66b2o$184b2o95bobo7bo$184b2o96b2o10bo$241b3o7b2o29bo11bobo4bo$
227b2o11bo4bo4bo2bo40b2o3b2o$227b2o10bo5bo4bo2bo46b2o$240bo8bo3bo$241b
2o8b2o$286bo$223b2o16b2o8b2o34b2o$223b2o15bo8bo36b2o$239bo5bo8b2o$240b
o4bo9bo$217bo23b3o7bo$217bo2b2o29bo2bo$201b2o13bo5bo57b3o$201b2o14bobo
2b2o58bo$217bo3b2o58bo17b2o$219b3o77bobo$202b2o3b2o85b2o3bo$201bo2bobo
2bo9b3o72bobo$200bo9bo6bo3b2o71bo$199b2o9b2o5bobo2b2o4b2o$200bo9bo5bo
5bo5b2o$201bo2bobo2bo7bo2b2o$202b2o3b2o8bo18b2o5b2o$232b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o
$232b2o13b2o3$237bo5bo$236b3o3b3o$235b2o2bobo2b2o$235bo3bobo3bo$235bob
2o3b2obo$235b2o7b2o3$257b3o$259bo$258bo63b2o62b2o5b2o$322bobo57b2o2b2o
5b2o2b2o$242b3o72b2o3bo59b2o13b2o$242b3o72bobo$241bo3bo71bo$240bo5bo$
241b2ob2o2$241b2ob2o$240bo5bo7b2o$236b2o3bo3bo7bo2bo$236b2o4b3o3bo7bo
131b2ob2o$242b3o2bobo3bo2bo130bo5bo$246b2ob2ob2ob2o$250bobo133bo7bo$
249b2ob2o132bo2bobo2bo$386b3o3b3o4$247b3o3b3o$246bo9bo$246bo3bobo3bo$
247b3o3b3o89b2o$248bo5bo90bobo56b2o$340b2o3bo40b2o16b2o$340bobo43b2o$
340bo57bo5bo$397b3o3b3o$397bo2bobo2bo$399b2ob2o2$386bobo$243b2o13b2o
126b2o$243b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o127bo9bo7bo$247b2o5b2o142bobobobo$398bobobobo
$397bob2ob2obo$397b2o5b2o8$368b2o$368bobo$363b2o3bo24b2o13b2o$363bobo
27b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$363bo33b2o5b2o2$337b4o7b2o51b2o5b2o$336bo3bo6bo2bo
46b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$336bo10bo2b2o45b2o13b2o$337bob2obo4bo2bo$340b3o6bo2$
340b3o6bo$339b2obo4bo2bo$338bo8bo2b2o11b2o$339b2o6bo2bo12b2o$340bo7b2o
2$401bo7bo$401b2o5b2o$401b3o3b3o$403b2ob2o$403bo3bo$391b2o7b2o7b2o$
391bobo6b2o7b2o$391bo12bobo$400bo2bo3bo2bo$401b3o3b3o3$390b2o$390b2o
16b2o$408b2o9$391bo5bo$390b3o3b3o$389b2o2bobo2b2o$388bob4ob4obo$390b3o
3b3o$389b3o5b3o8$386b2o13b2o$386b2o2b2o5b2o2b2o$390b2o5b2o!


I'll get to optimizing/improving it later. I originally had another method of doing it, but decided that this would be "easier". Ultimately I think I will be wrong. The quest is on for optimization!
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