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The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby gmc_nxtman » June 14th, 2017, 12:24 pm

chris_c wrote:There is also this variant:
...
I can't think of any faster ways of getting a NE glider and a forward Herschel. Nice find!


Cool! How did you find this variant?
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby chris_c » June 14th, 2017, 2:01 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
chris_c wrote:There is also this variant:
...
I can't think of any faster ways of getting a NE glider and a forward Herschel. Nice find!


Cool! How did you find this variant?


I recognised the boat+block in AbhpzTa's original conduit from SE7T14 and then poked around the H->G collection looking for possible substitutions:

x = 98, y = 51, rule = LifeHistory
4.3D2.5D.5D.5D3.D6.D26.D3.D.5D3.D3.5D2.3D3.3D$3.D3.D.D9.D3.D4.2D5.2D
26.2D2.D.D6.2D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D$3.D5.D8.D4.D5.D4.D.D26.D.D.D.D7.D5.D7.D
5.D$4.3D2.3D5.D5.D5.D3.D2.D26.D2.2D.3D5.D5.D6.D5.D$7.D.D6.D6.D5.D3.5D
25.D3.D.D7.D5.D5.D5.D$3.D3.D.D5.D7.D5.D6.D26.D3.D.D7.D5.D4.D5.D$4.3D
2.5D.D7.D4.3D5.D26.D3.D.5D2.3D4.D3.5D.5D2$B6$91.B$75.2A13.2B$76.A12.
4B$75.A12.4B$75.2A2.2A6.4B$29.AB47.A.A5.4B$28.A.AB.B39.4A.A6.4B$12.2A
13.B.2A2B2A38.A2.A.2A4.4B$13.A11.6B.B2A41.5B2.4B$13.A.AB7.6B3.B43.9B$
14.2AB.3B3.7B46.8B$16.16B44.8B$16.16B33.2A9.7B$17.15B34.A10.6B4.2A$
16.16B34.A.AB7.6B4.A$14.18B35.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A$12.19B38.14B.B2A$12.2BD
16B38.16B$11.3BDBD4B.9B39.14B$12.2B3D4B2.7B39.16B$11.5BD4B2.7B37.18B$
10.10B4.6B35.19B$9.4B10.7B35.2BD16B$9.3B12.6B34.3BDBD4B.9B$7.4B13.7B
34.2B3D4B2.7B$7.2A16.5B34.5BD4B2.7B$8.A16.6B32.10B4.6B$5.3A15.9B30.4B
10.7B$5.A17.2A.7B29.3B12.6B$24.A5.4B26.4B13.7B$21.3A7.4B25.2A16.5B$
21.A10.4B25.A16.5B$33.4B21.3A15.7B$34.4B20.A17.2A.3B$35.4B38.A$74.3A$
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » June 16th, 2017, 8:13 am

chris_c wrote:
AbhpzTa wrote:F131(98)

I can't think of any faster ways of getting a NE glider and a forward Herschel. Nice find!

Yes, this looks pretty good for future 2-signal synchronization problems. Maybe some competitive converters will show up using this.

My first instinct is always to try to use this kind of thing to make the old Herschel receiver relevant again somehow.
A receiver can use gliders on 90-degree intersecting paths, of either color, in several different ways.

Unfortunately I think my instinct is now several years out of date, especially starting from a non-Spartan component. A syringe is still a better solution for nearly any problem:

x = 456, y = 188, rule = LifeHistory
295.2A$157.2A135.B2AB$156.B2AB134.4B$156.4B135.2B$157.2B134.2A3B$155.
2A3B133.2A5B$155.2A5B118.2A11.8B$142.2A11.8B118.A6.2B5.6B$143.A6.2B5.
6B118.A.AB2.6B.9B$143.A.AB2.6B.9B117.2AB.B.17B$144.2AB.B.17B111.2A4.
24B$140.2A4.24B101.B5.B2AB2.27B$133.B5.B2AB2.27B99.2B5.3B2.28B$133.2B
5.3B2.28B98.3B3.B.B2.31B$133.3B3.B.B2.31B96.44B5.7B.B$133.44B5.7B.B
81.38B.4B5.13B.B$134.38B.4B5.13B.B76.34BD10BD21B$135.34BD10BD21B72.
29B2.2B2D10BD21BD$136.29B2.2B2D10BD21BD71.16B2A8B4.B2D11B2D18B3DB$
137.16B2A8B4.B2D11B2D18B3DB69.17B2A6B6.13B2D2B2A15BDBD$136.17B2A6B6.
13B2D2B2A15BDBD71.9B2D12B8.12BD3B2A15BD$35.2C100.9B2D12B8.12BD3B2A15B
D75.6BD2BD10B10.B2.19B3.2B2.2B12.C$34.C2.C101.6BD2BD10B10.B2.19B3.2B
2.2B12.C66.5B2D9B15.2B3.B2.10B21.C.C$35.2C104.5B2D9B15.2B3.B2.10B21.C
.C66.14B17.AB6.6B24.C.C$142.14B17.AB6.6B24.C.C67.12B17.A.A7.3B27.C64.
2C$143.12B17.A.A7.3B27.C67.12B18.2A8.B93.C2.C$142.11B19.2A8.B96.14B
26.2A94.2C$141.11B29.2A95.10B2.4B25.A$140.12B29.A95.4B3.B.2B3.4B25.A$
139.4B3.B.5B29.A93.4B3.3B6.4B23.2A$31.B106.4B3.3B2.4B27.2A92.4B4.B2AB
6.4B$30.3D104.4B4.B2AB2.4B119.4B6.2A8.4B$30.BDB103.4B6.2A4.4B117.4B
18.4B$29.2B3D101.4B14.4B115.4B20.4B111.B$29.5B100.4B16.4B113.4B22.4B
109.3D$29.6B98.4B18.4B111.4B24.4B108.BDB$29.6B97.4B20.4B109.4B26.4B
106.2B3D$29.5B97.4B22.4B92.2A13.4B28.4B105.5B$28.6B96.4B24.4B92.A12.
4B30.4B104.6B$29.6B94.4B26.4B90.A12.4B32.4B103.6B$28.7B78.2A13.4B28.
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27.9B78.5B2.4B42.4B83.8B48.4B93.8B$27.10B78.9B44.4B71.2A9.7B50.4B93.
8B$27.5B2A3B78.8B46.4B71.A10.6B4.2A45.4B91.9B$27.5B2A4B76.8B48.4B70.A
.AB7.6B4.A47.3B91.9B$27.11B65.2A9.7B50.4B70.2AB.3B3.6B.BA.A34.2A12.2B
91.10B$27.4BD7BA.2A61.A10.6B4.2A45.4B71.14B.B2A10.2A24.A13.B91.5B2A3B
$29.B3D4B2.2A.A61.A.AB7.6B4.A47.3B71.16B13.A13.2A6.3A106.5B2A4B$29.D
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6B72.14B.B2A10.2A24.A13.B71.16B14.2AB.3B6.4B.3B109.4BD7BA.2A$29.6B72.
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3B85.2BA16B18.24BD21B83.6B$27.8B70.18B16.7B2.11B7.7B.B67.3BABA4B.9B
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2A15BDBD79.8B$25.3B.7B.2A63.3BABA4B.9B17.26BD21BD53.22B.13BD26BD3B2A
15BD81.8B$24.10B69.2B3A4B.10B14.28B2D18B3DB51.4B6.27BDBD4B.30B3.2B2.
2B12.C69.9B.BA$24.6BD3B68.5BA4B.11B.2B3.2B2.30B2D2B2A15BDBD51.4B7.16B
2A9B3D4B2.16B2.10B21.C.C68.10BA.A$23.6B3D3B66.22B.13BD26BD3B2A15BD53.
3B9.15B2A11BD4B2.7B.4B7.6B24.C.C67.3B.7B.2A$23.8BD2B66.4B6.27BDBD4B.
30B3.2B2.2B12.C41.2AB10.11B.20B4.6B2.2B9.3B27.C67.10B$23.10B66.4B7.
16B2A9B3D4B2.16B2.10B21.C.C41.A12.10B3.2B.3B.4B11.6B13.B97.6BD3B$22.
8B69.3B9.15B2A11BD4B2.7B.4B7.6B24.C.C38.3A14.7B11.4B13.3B14.2A96.6B3D
3B$22.8B68.2AB10.11B.20B4.6B2.2B9.3B27.C39.A16.7B10.4B12.7B12.A97.8BD
2B$21.10B68.A12.10B3.2B.3B.4B11.6B13.B87.5B10.B2AB13.2A.B.2A10.A.A97.
10B$21.10B65.3A14.7B11.4B13.3B14.2A88.3B10.3BA15.A3.A11.2A97.8B$19.
13B64.A16.7B10.4B12.7B12.A90.4B7.B3A13.3A5.3A107.8B$18.14B82.5B10.B2A
B13.2A.B.2A10.A.A89.2A.2A6.2BAB14.A9.A106.10B$18.15B82.3B10.3BA15.A3.
A11.2A89.ABABABA4.4B132.10B$14.2B.17B82.4B7.B3A13.3A5.3A97.3A.B.A.A2.
A135.13B$13.2A20B80.2A.2A6.2BAB14.A9.A96.A4.A.A.4A134.14B$13.2A20B79.
ABABABA4.4B122.2A.2A.2A139.15B$14.2B.2AB.15B76.3A.B.A.A2.A131.A3.3A
132.2B.17B$17.2AB2.15B74.A4.A.A.4A131.A.2A2.A131.2A20B$21.10B2A5B73.
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2A2.A275.2AB2.15B$20.20B76.A.A282.10B2A5B$20.20B361.10B2A5B$21.B.18B
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28B2D18B3DB$109.2BA16B18.24BD21B56.5BA4B.11B.2B3.2B2.30B2D2B2A15BDBD$
108.3BABA4B.9B17.26BD21BD53.22B.13BD26BD3B2A15BD$109.2B3A4B.10B14.28B
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41.A12.10B3.2B.3B.4B11.6B13.B$105.3B9.15B2A11BD4B2.7B.4B7.6B24.C.C38.
3A14.7B11.4B13.3B14.2A$104.2AB10.11B.20B4.6B2.2B9.3B27.C39.A16.7B10.
4B12.7B12.A$105.A12.10B3.2B.3B.4B11.6B13.B87.5B10.B2AB13.2A.B.2A10.A.
A$102.3A14.7B11.4B13.3B14.2A88.3B10.3BA15.A3.A11.2A$102.A16.7B10.4B
12.7B12.A90.4B7.B3A13.3A5.3A$120.5B10.B2AB13.2A.B.2A10.A.A89.2A.2A6.
2BAB14.A9.A$121.3B10.3BA15.A3.A11.2A89.ABABABA4.4B$122.4B7.B3A13.3A5.
3A97.3A.B.A.A2.A$121.2A.2A6.2BAB14.A9.A96.A4.A.A.4A$120.ABABABA4.4B
122.2A.2A.2A$118.3A.B.A.A2.A131.A3.3A$117.A4.A.A.4A131.A.2A2.A$117.2A
.2A.2A137.A.A$121.A3.3A$121.A.2A2.A$122.A.A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby Jormungant » June 19th, 2017, 3:03 pm

Hi all!

Here is my very pointless Herschel track. It is a F type with a lousy 368 tick recovery; however, it can be extended arbitrarily due to a conversion to 2 gliders halfway.

x = 82, y = 94, rule = LifeHistory
50.2A$49.A.A$43.2A4.A$41.A2.A2.2A.4A$41.2A.A.A.A.A2.A$44.A.ABABAB$44.
A.AB2A4B$45.AB.5B$48.4B$47.5B6.2A$46.3B2AB6.A$45.4B2AB3.BA.A$44.10B.B
2A$43.13B$42.14B$41.15B$40.4B2.8B$39.4B5.6B$38.4B4.9B$37.4B5.2A4.4B$
36.4B7.A5.4B$35.4B5.3A7.4B$34.4B6.A10.4B$33.4B19.4B$32.4B21.4B$31.4B
23.4B$30.4B25.4B$29.4B27.4B$28.4B29.4B$27.4B31.4B$26.4B13.A19.4B$25.
4B14.3A12.B.8B$24.4B18.A10.18B2.B$23.4B4.2A12.2A3.B5.2B2A11BD7B$14.5B
2.5B4.B2AB11.8B3.2B2A9B3D7B$11.B.16B.3B.B12.8B.13BDBD9B$10.2AB.16B.B
15.22BD11B$10.2A21B13.15B.2B2.2B.11BAB$11.2B.9B2C9B10.17B8.10BABA$14.
9B2C9B3.2B2.19B11.8BABA$13.31BD15B12.8BA$11.2AB.29BDBD4B.7B12.10B$10.
A.AB3.2B4.21B3D13B11.9B$10.A12.23BD14B10.8B$9.2A12.27B2.8B12.7B$22.
16B.4B11.6B$23.5B.13B12.5B$21.4B3.4B.8B14.4B$21.2A4.4B3.7B14.3B$22.A
3.4B5.7B14.4B$13.A5.3A3.4B5.9B15.2A$13.3A3.A4.4B5.11B14.A$16.A6.4B6.
3B2.7B14.3A$15.2A5.4B5.4B4.7B15.A$15.4B2.4B5.4B6.7B$17.2B.4B5.4B8.7B$
16.7B5.4B10.7B$16.6B5.4B12.7B8.2A$16.5B5.4B14.7B7.A$6.A7.8B3.4B16.10B
5.A$6.3A5.9B.4B17.6BC4B3.4A$9.A3.15B17.4B3C7B4.A$8.2A.17B.2B14.4BCBC
7B2A2.A$8.22B2A13.4BC8BAB.A.2A$10.18B.B2A14.12B.2A.A$9.20B.B18.12B.A$
8.B.18B23.9B2.A.2A$7.20B25.6B2.A.A.2A$7.20B23.B3.4B2.2A$8.18B23.2AB.
4B$7.11B2A5B24.2A3BA$6.12B2A5B25.B.BA.A$5.19B29.BA.A$5.18B33.A$5.17B
34.2A$4.18B$5.16B$4.16B$.AB.15B$A.A16B$.A2B.13B$2.B3.11B$10.7B$6.2B.
8B$5.2A3B2A5B$5.2A3B2A5B$6.B.9B$9.9B$11.3B.B2A.A$9.5B.B2AB3A$9.2A6.B
4.A$10.A5.2A.3A$7.3A5.A2.2A$7.A7.2A!


Well, It is clear that a syringe can emulate this track with nicer properties; however, I wonder if a there is better mean to recreate the initial block out there... Food for thoughts I guess.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » June 19th, 2017, 4:57 pm

Jormungant wrote:Here is my very pointless Herschel track. It is a F type with a lousy 368 tick recovery; however, it can be extended arbitrarily due to a conversion to 2 gliders halfway.
...
Well, It is clear that a syringe can emulate this track with nicer properties; however, I wonder if a there is better mean[s] to recreate the initial block out there.

I like it, but it is very Rube Goldbergian. I take it you're familiar with the old G2/G5/G6 Herschel transceivers, and the new G4 ones?

x = 60, y = 46, rule = LifeHistory
55.A$53.3A$36.A15.A$36.3A13.2A4.2A$39.A9.5B4.A$38.2A3.B4.4B3.BA.A$38.
8B.7B.B2A$40.16B$40.16B$39.17B$24.2B11.18B$24.3B3.2B2.20B$24.13BC15B$
24.13BCBC13B$24.13B3C13B$24.15BC12B$24.19B3.6B$24.7B.8B6.7B$24.B.B4.
8B9.5B$30.8B11.4B$29.8B11.B2A2B$28.8B13.2A$27.8B$6.B2AB16.8B$7.BA7.2A
7.8B$8.ABA4.B2AB5.8B3.2A$9.2A.B3.3B4.8B5.A$10.5B2.B4.8B5.A$11.9B.8B6.
2A$8.3B.16B8.B$8.19B9.3B$.B3.21B9.6B$2AB.22B.B3.B2.10B$2A43B3.2B2.2B$
.B.31BD3B2A15BD$4.7B2A21B2D2B2A15BDBD$5.B.4B2A9B2D11B2D18B3DB$9.14B2D
10BD21BD$8.A3.11BD10BD21B$6.3A5.12B2.3B5.13B.B$5.A8.13B3.3B3.7B.B$5.
2A9.5B.4B5.2A$16.B2A2B4.2B4.A$17.2A5.BA2B4.3A$24.A.A7.A$25.A!
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(There are several other recent ones, too, mostly catalogued in the Elementary Conduits Collection.)

Your new (?) H-to-G4 is nice and compact, and definitely not interchangeable with other known H-to-G4s because of the close glider spacing. You never know, an inspired Bellman search could perfectly well find a tighter way to rebuild a block in the right place, instead of just within (2,1) of the right place...! Or that glider pair could maybe manage a similar trick with some other transparent object.

Unfortunately tandem gliders seldom seem to turn out to be as useful as one might think they should be. Often you get stuck with "left-handed" or "right-handed" receivers that aren't easily reversible, and then the circuitry ends up taking up a ridiculous amount of space.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby gmc_nxtman » June 19th, 2017, 5:56 pm

dvgrn wrote:Your new (?) H-to-G4 is nice and compact, and definitely not interchangeable with other known H-to-G4s because of the close glider spacing...


It's an H-to-G3 and was found by simeks here.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » June 19th, 2017, 6:14 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:
dvgrn wrote:Your new (?) H-to-G4 is nice and compact, and definitely not interchangeable with other known H-to-G4s because of the close glider spacing...

It's an H-to-G3 and was found by simeks here.

D'oh! Right there in the Elementary Conduits Collection, if only I had been looking in the right place. I guess that makes it even less likely to be interchangeable with known G4s, then...
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby Jormungant » June 19th, 2017, 6:21 pm

Your new (?) H-to-G4 is nice and compact, and definitely not interchangeable with other known H-to-G4s because of the close glider spacing.


Well, I did not come up with that one, someone suggested it to me for turning gliders, I suppose I was not clear about that bit. Since the 2 gliders are close, I though some new tracks could be devised from this pair, since collision with a block can generate non-trivial reactions (see below).

x = 228, y = 81, rule = LifeHistory
.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D5.D.D.D.D.D29.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D22.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$D19.D
37.D36.D38.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$5.A.A7.D9.A.A.D43.D34.D24.D$D4.2A4.A.A6.D
4.2A31.D6.2C28.D52.D$6.A4.2A2.D10.A2.D32.D2.2C6.D34.D24.D4.2C$D11.A7.
D37.D3.3D30.D5.A3.2C31.2C8.D$15.D13.D33.D9.D27.2A2.2C.D24.D$D4.A14.D
4.A32.D4.A31.D4.A.A45.D$5.2A8.D9.2A2.D33.2A8.D23.D10.D24.D4.A$D3.A.A
13.D3.A.A31.D3.A.A30.D.3D38.2A3D5.D$15.D13.D43.D24.D9.D24.D3.A.A2.D$D
19.D37.D36.D2.2A40.3D5.D$15.D13.D43.D25.2A7.D24.D$D.2A16.D.2A34.D.2A
33.D2.A$3.2A10.D7.2A4.D31.2A10.D34.D24.D.2A$D.A17.D.A35.D.A34.D40.2A
10.D$15.D13.D43.D34.D24.D.A$D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D5.D.D.D.D.D29.D.D.D.D.D.D.
D.D22.D.D.D.D.D.D.D40.D$133.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D9$226.2A$226.A$224.A.A$
224.2A4$212.2A$213.A$213.A.A$214.2A$226.2C$220.A5.2C$220.2A$219.A.A4$
217.2A$218.2A$217.A3$51.2C41.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$52.C4.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$
52.C.C.D37.D.A13.D$53.2C16.D24.3A$56.D6.2C29.D4.A10.D$60.D2.2C6.D26.
2A$56.D3.3D31.D15.D$61.D9.D60.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$56.D4.A32.D15.D20.D$61.
2A8.D29.A3.2C39.D$56.D3.A.A31.D6.2A2.2C3.D20.D4.2C$65.3D3.D28.A.A33.
2C8.D$56.D10.D26.D15.D20.D$65.3D3.D74.D$56.D.2A34.D15.D20.D4.A$59.2A
10.D26.2A36.2A3D5.D$56.D.A35.D4.2A9.D20.D3.A.A2.D$71.D26.A39.3D5.D$
56.D37.D11.2D2.D20.D13.2A$71.D35.2D36.ADA$56.D37.D11.2D2.D20.D.2A12.A
$71.D34.D27.2A3.2A5.D2A$56.D37.D15.D20.D.A5.2A$71.D23.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D
36.D$56.D74.D.D.D.D.D.D.D.D$60.3D8.D$56.D3.D$59.3D9.D$56.D$71.D$56.D.
D.D.D.D.D.D.D!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby Jormungant » June 22nd, 2017, 2:07 pm

Hi!

Again, nothing new here, but it seems there is a family of h-to-g9 that can be made from known tracks. Just pointing it out...


x = 110, y = 73, rule = LifeHistory
77.2B$51.4B21.4B$52.4B20.4B$53.4B18.6B2.B$54.4B17.2B2A2B.B2A$55.4B12.
B.3BA2BA3B2A$56.4B.3B.2B3.7B2A2B.2B$57.5BD18B$57.4B2D17B$57.3B2D18B$
57.4BD18B$55.2A.4BD18B$55.A4.4B.B2.13B.B$53.A.A5.AB5.12B.B2A$53.2A5.A
.A.A3.9BD4B2A$58.3A.2A.A3.7B3DB.2B$26.2B29.A7.A3.6B2D2BD$4B21.4B28.2A
6.2A3.10B$.4B20.4B45.7B$2.4B18.6B2.B40.8B$3.4B17.2B2A2B.B2A40.6B$4.4B
12.B.3BA2BA3B2A41.5B$5.4B.3B.2B3.7B2A2B.2B42.8B16.2B$6.5BD18B43.12B
13.4B$6.4B2D17B45.11B13.4B$6.3B2D18B44.12B12.6B2.B$6.4BD18B45.11B12.
2B2A2B.B2A$4.2A.4BD18B43.12B8.B.3BA2BA3B2A$4.A4.4B.B2.13B.B41.13B.2B
3.7B2A2B.2B$2.A.A5.AB5.12B.B2A38.13BD18B$2.2A5.A.A.A3.9BD4B2A37.3BA9B
2D17B$7.3A.2A.A3.7B3DB.2B38.2BABA7B2D18B$6.A7.A3.6B2D2BD41.2BABA8BD
18B$6.2A6.2A3.10B41.3BA10BD18B$23.7B41.5B3.2B.B7.13B.B$22.8B43.B7.3B
6.12B.B2A$23.8B41.3B5.B2AB6.9BD4B2A$23.8B40.B2AB6.2A8.7B3DB.2B$20.AB.
9B40.2A17.6B2D2BD$19.A.A11B59.10B$19.2A.11B63.7B$23.11B61.8B$13.2A8.
4BD6B62.8B$14.A8.3B3D5B62.8B$14.A.AB5.3BD7B59.AB.9B$15.2AB.3B.10B59.A
.A11B$17.17B58.2A.11B$17.17B62.11B$18.16B52.2A8.4BD6B$17.19B51.A8.3B
3D5B$15.21B51.A.AB5.3BD7B$13.22B2A51.2AB.3B.10B$13.2BC17B.B2A53.17B$
12.3BCBC4B.9B3.B54.17B$13.2B3C4B2.6B61.16B$12.5BC4B2.6B.2B57.19B$11.
10B4.7B2A54.21B$10.4B10.6B.B2A52.22B2A$10.3B12.6B.B53.2BC17B.B2A$8.4B
13.6B54.3BCBC4B.9B3.B$8.2A15.5B56.2B3C4B2.6B$9.A15.4B56.5BC4B2.6B.2B$
6.3A14.5B56.10B4.7B2A$6.A16.2A58.4B10.6B.B2A$24.A58.3B12.6B.B$21.3A
57.4B13.6B$21.A59.2A15.5B$82.A15.4B$79.3A14.5B$79.A16.2A$97.A$94.3A$
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby BlinkerSpawn » June 22nd, 2017, 2:25 pm

Jormungant wrote:Hi!

Again, nothing new here, but it seems there is a family of h-to-g9 that can be made from known tracks. Just pointing it out...

I don't know about the H-to-G9 but I know that the delaying capability of the B-to-B (only by multiples of four ticks iirc) were mentioned in an older post.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 22nd, 2017, 7:48 pm

B to G:
x = 15, y = 25, rule = LifeHistory
13.2A$13.2A5$11.A.2A$11.3A$12.A11$2A$2A3$7.2A$7.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 22nd, 2017, 8:01 pm

B after 64 generations:
x = 15, y = 28, rule = LifeHistory
9.2A$8.B2AB$8.5B$7.6B$6.7B$6.6B.A$7.6B2A$7.5BABA$6.8B$6.7B$6.6B$5.7B$
5.7B$.2A.8B$B2A9B$12B$12B$3B2A6B$.BA5B$.2B2A4B$2.8B$2.7BA$3.6B2A$.3A
6B2A$.A3B2A2B2A$.A8B$2.A3BAB$3.2ABA!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » June 22nd, 2017, 8:07 pm

wwei23 wrote:B after 64 generations...

Yes. That's the basis of one of the earliest known Herschel conduits, the R64.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby gmc_nxtman » June 22nd, 2017, 8:54 pm

That is technically a B-to-H plus an H-to-G, that is known and in the Elementary Conduit Collection:

EDIT: It is also in the H-to-G converter collection that is likely due for an update anyway:

x = 47, y = 47, rule = LifeHistory
D3.D.D3.D2.3D4.D3.5D3.D4.3D3.3D$2D2.D.D3.D.D3.D2.2D5.D4.2D3.D3.D.D3.D
$D.D.D.D3.D5.D3.D5.D5.D7.D.D2.2D$D2.2D.D.D.D3.2D4.D5.D5.D6.D2.D.D.D$D
3.D.D.D.D5.D3.D5.D5.D5.D3.2D2.D$D3.D.2D.2D.D3.D3.D5.D5.D4.D4.D3.D$D3.
D.D3.D2.3D3.3D4.D4.3D2.5D2.3D5$23.4B$24.4B$25.4B$26.4B$27.4B$27.4B$
27.5B$26.9B$26.9B$26.9B$25.10B$24.12B$14.2A8.13B$15.A9.11B$15.A.AB4.
12B$16.2AB.15B$18.17B$18.17B$19.17B.B$18.19B2A$16.19B.B2A$14.19B4.B$
14.2BC16B$13.3BCBC4B.9B$14.2B3C4B2.7B$13.5BC4B2.7B$12.10B4.6B$11.4B
10.7B$11.3B12.6B$9.4B13.7B$9.2A15.6B$10.A15.5B$7.3A15.6B$7.A17.4B$25.
2B2AB$27.2A!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 23rd, 2017, 11:44 am

It's the result of me trying to use the block-eating-beehive reaction. I got close before, but couldn't remove DIEHARD!!!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 23rd, 2017, 11:45 am

dvgrn, I thought that the B was turned LEFT!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby gmc_nxtman » June 23rd, 2017, 11:57 am

In the Elementary Conduit Collection, the standard orientation for a B-heptomino is the following:

x = 3, y = 5, rule = LifeHistory
C$.C$.2C$2C$C!


which makes this a right turn:

x = 31, y = 26, rule = LifeHistory
18.2A$17.B2A2B3.2A$18.4B2.B2AB$14.B.6B3.2B$12.10B2.2B$12.11B2A2B$11.
12B2A3B.B$11.18B2A$12.15B.B2A$11.15B3.B$9.17B$7.18B$.C5.2BD15B$2.C3.
3BDBD4B.7B$2.2C3.2B3D4B2.B2D2BD$.2C3.5BD4B2.2B3D2B$.C3.10B4.2BD3B$4.
4B10.6B$4.3B12.5B$2.4B13.6B$2.2A15.6B$3.A15.5B$3A16.2B3D$A19.BDB$20.
3D$21.B!
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 23rd, 2017, 12:04 pm

That's not a true B-heptomino.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby gmc_nxtman » June 23rd, 2017, 12:20 pm

It is a B-heptomino relative, and is used in the conduit collection.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » June 23rd, 2017, 12:45 pm

I know☺ What makes the R64(Or L64, relative to the input B) special is that the output B is a true B.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » June 24th, 2017, 11:30 am

wwei23 wrote:I know☺ What makes the R64(Or L64, relative to the input B) special is that the output B is a true B.

With some apologies for the maybe unnecessary heavy-handed moderation -- I've moved a couple of the most recent posts to a thread in the Sandbox.

They're about very well known technology (NW31, various boat-bit reactions, etc.) Definitely neither "new" nor particularly "Herschel". At 36 pages, this thread already seems cluttered enough. It's true that there are plenty of other off-topic items in this thread here and there, but these new posts really seemed to be taking irrelevance to a new level.

@wwei23, I've also sent you a private message about this -- see the "User Control Panel" link.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » July 4th, 2017, 7:08 pm

Generation 28 of R, how to add eaters to do R to B?
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby dvgrn » July 4th, 2017, 7:33 pm

wwei23 wrote:Generation 28 of R, how to add eaters to do R to B?

This is more of a "basic question" than a contribution for this thread. See the Elementary Conduits Collection:

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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby Kazyan » July 15th, 2017, 2:42 am

R-to-2G.

x = 32, y = 22, rule = LifeHistory
9.A.A$7.4A.A3.2A$6.A5.A3.A$7.3A.A.2A.A$9.A.A.A.A$3.A7.A9.2A$.3A6.2A8.
A.A$A20.A$2A6$30.2A$30.A$28.A.A$28.2A2$10.2C$11.2C$11.C!


Doesn't connect to anything, since new conduits don't really do that anymore. The important bit here is that catalyst; it has potential.
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Re: The Hunting of the New Herschel Conduits

Postby wwei23 » July 15th, 2017, 11:33 am

I found that a monomino can be converted into a B relative.
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