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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 1st, 2015, 8:00 pm

Elsewhere dvgrn wrote:I wish someone (besides me) would pick up a self-constructing circuit project again, and develop some of these techniques further. Anyone want to finish a Demonoid? It will probably be cheaper and easier again by now.


I agree and it would be especially cool to see syringes involved. Only last week I decided to make a Demonoid blueprint along those lines. Just now I added some possible ways to construct the non-Spartan still lifes. Here is the result:

x = 270, y = 325, rule = LifeHistory
159.A$160.2A$159.2A2$2.A$A.A$.2A$171.A59.4B6.4B$169.A.A58.4B6.4B$170.
2A57.4B6.4B$228.4B6.4B$227.4B6.4B$226.4B6.4B$225.4B6.4B$224.4B6.4B$
223.4B6.4B$179.A42.4B6.4B$177.A.A41.4B6.4B$178.2A40.4B6.4B$219.4B6.4B
$218.4B6.4B$217.4B6.4B$216.4B6.4B$215.4B6.4B$214.4B6.4B$213.4B6.4B19.
2D$212.4B6.4B20.D$211.4B6.4B19.D.D$210.4B6.4B20.2D13.2D$209.4B6.4B36.
2D$208.4B6.4B$207.4B6.4B$206.4B6.4B3.2D40.2D$205.4B6.4B4.2D40.2D$204.
4B6.4B43.2D$203.4B6.4B44.2D$202.4B6.4B$55.A145.BD2B6.4B$56.2A142.3DB
6.4B$55.2A142.D3B6.4B53.2D$198.B2DB6.4B54.2D$197.4B6.4B$196.4B6.4B$
195.4B6.4B$194.4B6.4B$193.4B6.4B$192.4B6.4B29.2D$191.4B6.4B30.D$190.
4B6.4B32.3D$189.4B6.4B35.D$188.4B6.4B$187.4B6.4B$186.4B6.4B$185.4B6.
4B$42.A141.4B6.4B$40.A.A140.4B6.4B49.2D$41.2A139.4B6.4B49.D.D$181.4B
6.4B50.D$180.4B6.4B50.2D$179.4B6.4B$178.4B6.4B22.2D$177.4B6.4B23.D.D$
176.4B6.4B25.D$175.4B6.4B$174.4B6.4B$69.A103.4B6.4B67.2D$67.A.A102.4B
6.4B22.2D44.2D7.2D$68.2A101.4B6.4B24.D53.D$170.4B6.4B22.3D52.D.D$169.
4B6.4B23.D54.2D$168.4B6.4B62.2D$167.4B6.4B63.2D$166.4B6.4B54.2D$165.
4B6.4B56.D$164.4B6.4B57.D.D$163.4B6.4B59.2D$162.4B6.4B$161.4B6.4B$
160.4B6.4B79.2A$159.4B6.4B79.A2.A$158.4B6.4B81.2A$92.A64.4B6.4B$90.A.
A63.4B6.4B$91.2A62.4B6.4B$154.4B6.4B72.2D$153.4B6.4B9.2D61.D.D$152.4B
6.4B10.D62.D$151.4B6.4B9.D.D61.2D$150.4B6.4B10.2D13.2D$149.4B6.4B26.
2D66.A10.2A$148.4B6.4B94.A.A9.2A$147.4B6.4B95.A.A$146.4B3.2D.4B35.2D
60.A$145.4B4.2D4B36.2D58.2D$144.4B6.4B33.2D62.2D$143.4B6.4B34.2D54.2D
$142.4B6.4B92.D$117.A23.4B6.4B90.3D13.3A$115.A.A22.4B6.4B91.D$116.2A
21.4B6.4B43.2D$138.4B6.4B44.2D45.A2.D$137.4B6.4B91.A.AD.D$136.4B6.4B
93.2AD.D$135.4B6.4B94.3D.2D$134.4B6.4B94.D4.3A$133.4B6.4B96.3D.2D$
132.4B6.4B99.D.2D$131.4B6.4B18.2D$130.4B6.4B19.2D90.2D$129.4B6.4B112.
2D7.2D$128.4B6.4B122.D$127.4B6.4B121.D.D$126.4B6.4B122.2D$125.4B6.4B$
124.4B6.4B$123.4B6.4B39.2D$122.4B6.4B39.D.D64.2D$121.4B6.4B40.D66.2D$
120.4B6.4B40.2D$119.4B6.4B$118.4B6.4B$117.4B6.4B$116.4B6.4B128.D$115.
4B6.4B128.D.D$114.4B6.4B129.D.D$113.4B6.4B57.2D72.D$112.4B6.4B58.2D7.
2D64.3D$111.4B6.4B68.D67.D$110.4B6.4B67.D.D$109.4B6.4B68.2D$108.4B6.
4B52.2D$107.4B6.4B53.2D$106.4B6.4B44.2D$105.4B6.4B46.D$104.4B6.4B47.D
.D$103.4B6.4B49.2D$102.4B6.4B$101.4B6.4B$100.4B6.4B$99.4B6.4B$98.4B6.
4B$97.4B6.4B$96.4B6.4B$95.4B6.4B$94.4B6.4B62.2D$93.4B6.4B62.D.D$92.4B
6.4B63.D$91.4B6.4B63.2D$90.4B7.4B$89.4B7.5B$88.4B5.9B$87.4B6.9B$86.4B
7.9B$85.4B8.10B78.2D$84.4B8.12B77.2D$83.4B8.13B8.2A59.2D$82.4B10.11B
9.A61.D$81.4B12.12B4.BA.A58.3D$80.4B13.15B.B2A13.2A44.D$79.4B14.17B
14.B2AB$78.4B15.17B15.2B45.D$77.4B13.B.17B17.2B3.B39.D.D$76.4B13.2A
19B15.4B.B2A38.D.D$75.4B14.2AB.19B11.8B2A36.3D.2D$74.4B16.B4.20B2.2B
2.6B2AB.B36.D$66.4B3.4B22.32B2A40.3D.2D$67.4B.4B23.9B.24B42.D.2D$68.
4BC2B25.7B2.28B$69.B3CB26.7B2.28B48.2D$69.C4B26.6B4.26B2A47.2D7.2D$
68.B2C4B25.7B10.4B.14B2A56.D$67.4B.4B24.6B12.4B2.11B.B55.D.D$66.4B3.
4B22.7B13.4B2.10B57.2D$65.4B5.4B22.5B15.14B$64.4B7.4B20.6B16.14B$63.
4B9.4B18.9B14.13B$62.4B11.4B16.7B.2A14.13B38.2D$61.4B13.4B14.4B5.A15.
8B.2B40.2D$60.4B15.4B12.4B7.3A12.8B$59.4B17.4B10.4B10.A12.9B$58.4B19.
4B8.4B24.10B$57.4B21.4B6.4B24.7B.4B$56.4B23.4B4.4B24.8B2.4B55.D$55.4B
25.4B2.4B24.8B4.4B53.D.D$54.4B27.8B25.8B5.4B52.D.D$53.4B29.6B24.2AB2.
6B5.4B52.D$52.4B31.4B24.A.AB.7B6.4B52.3D9.A$51.4B31.6B23.A4.6B8.4B53.
D8.A.A$50.4B31.8B21.2A4.6B9.4B61.A.A$49.4B30.10B27.6B10.4B61.A$48.4B
30.2B2C7B26.8B10.4B$47.4B31.2BCBC6B27.8B10.4B54.2A7.2A$46.4B31.4BC6B
27.9B11.4B52.A2.A5.A2.A$45.4B31.7B32.9B12.4B52.2A7.2A$44.4B32.3B36.
10B12.4B$43.4B31.4B37.5B2A3B13.4B55.A$42.4B32.2A39.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B53.A
.A$41.4B34.A39.11B3.A10.4B52.A.A$40.4B32.3A40.12BA.A11.4B52.A$39.4B
33.A44.8B2.2A13.4B$38.4B72.2A5.7B19.4B$37.4B71.2B2AB2.7B22.4B$36.4B
64.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B$35.4B66.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B$34.4B67.A.AB.22B19.4B$
33.4B69.2AB.23B19.4B$32.4B72.25B20.4B35.2A$31.4B73.28B18.4B33.A.A$31.
4B73.28B19.4B33.A$30.5B74.29B18.4B$27.9B74.28B19.4B$27.9B75.28B19.4B$
27.9B77.26B20.4B$27.10B75.27B21.4B$26.12B72.2AB.23B24.4B$25.13B8.2A
61.A.AB.20B28.4B$26.11B9.A62.A4.16B33.3B$27.12B4.BA.A61.2A3.18B33.2B$
27.15B.B2A13.2A51.20B33.B$27.17B14.B2AB51.20B$27.17B15.2B55.18B$24.B.
17B17.2B3.B51.16B$23.2A19B15.4B.B2A52.13B$23.2AB.19B11.8B2A52.3B.2B2A
5B$24.B4.20B2.2B2.6B2AB.B51.4B2.2B2A3B$29.32B2A54.2A3.8B$29.9B.24B55.
A4.8B$30.7B2.28B48.3A5.8B$30.7B2.28B48.A8.7B$30.6B4.26B2A56.7B$30.7B
10.4B.14B2A48.A7.6B$30.6B12.4B2.11B.B48.A.A6.6B$29.7B13.4B2.10B50.A.A
6.5B$30.6B14.14B49.3A.2A4.6B$31.5B15.14B47.A4.B6.6B$31.6B14.13B49.3AB
2AB3.7B$33.4B14.13B51.A.2AB.8B$32.B2A2B14.8B.2B57.10B$33.2A16.8B60.6B
2A3B$51.9B59.6B2A2B5.2A$51.10B58.10B5.A$50.7B.4B56.11B2.BA.A$49.8B2.
4B55.12B.B2A$48.8B4.4B53.15B$48.8B5.4B51.16B$46.2AB2.6B5.4B47.2B.16B$
45.A.AB.7B6.4B45.2A18B$45.A4.6B8.4B44.2AB.17B$44.2A4.6B9.4B44.B.4B.8B
2.4B$50.6B10.4B50.7B4.4B$49.8B10.4B50.6B5.4B$50.8B10.4B51.4B6.4B$49.
9B11.4B52.3BA5.2B2C$49.9B12.4B52.BA.A5.BCBC$49.10B12.4B52.A.A6.CB$49.
5B2A3B13.4B52.A$49.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B52.3A$49.11B3.A10.4B53.A$49.12BA.A
11.4B$51.8B2.2A13.4B$44.2A5.7B19.4B$42.2B2AB2.7B22.4B$34.2A6.4B2.9B
22.4B$35.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B$35.A.AB.22B19.4B$36.2AB.23B19.4B$38.25B20.
4B$38.28B18.4B$38.28B19.4B$39.29B18.4B$40.28B19.4B$41.28B19.4B$43.26B
20.4B$42.27B21.4B$40.2AB.23B24.4B$39.A.AB.20B28.4B$39.A4.16B33.4B$38.
2A3.18B33.4B$42.20B33.4B$43.20B33.3B$46.18B33.2B$47.16B35.B$49.13B$
49.3B.2B2A5B$47.4B2.2B2A3B$47.2A3.8B$48.A4.8B$45.3A5.8B$45.A8.7B$54.
7B$46.A7.6B$45.A.A6.6B$45.A.A6.5B$43.3A.2A4.6B$42.A4.B6.6B$43.3AB2AB
3.7B$45.A.2AB.8B$49.10B$49.6B2A3B$49.6B2A2B5.2A$49.10B5.A$48.11B2.BA.
A$48.12B.B2A$47.15B$46.16B$43.2B.16B$42.2A18B$42.2AB.17B$43.B.4B.8B2.
4B$50.7B4.4B$51.6B5.4B$53.4B6.4B$55.3BA5.4B$56.BA.A5.4B$57.A.A6.4B$
58.A8.4B$59.3A6.4B$61.A7.4B$70.4B$71.4B$72.4B$73.4B$74.2B2C$75.BCBC$
76.CB!


I estimate that the construction is around 10-20% more expensive that the previous blueprint but the repeat time is more than 3 times faster (153 ticks vs ~500 ticks).

The rest of the construction/destruction is left as an exercise to the determined reader. I can't see me attempting this in 2015.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby gmc_nxtman » November 1st, 2015, 8:26 pm

Keep in mind that there are now 4-SL seeds for eater2s located in the slow salvo seeds thread. I have no idea if that will help, however.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 1st, 2015, 9:13 pm

chris_c wrote:... it would be especially cool to see syringes involved. Only last week I decided to make a Demonoid blueprint along those lines. Just now I added some possible ways to construct the non-Spartan still lifes...
I estimate that the construction is around 10-20% more expensive that the previous blueprint but the repeat time is more than 3 times faster (153 ticks vs ~500 ticks).

Totally worth it, even if it turned out to be an order of magnitude more expensive. People have been itching to use some of these new Catagolue-inspired recipes in self-constructing circuitry, and this is a really small and simple project to try first.

chris_c wrote:The rest of the construction/destruction is left as an exercise to the determined reader. I can't see me attempting this in 2015.

With the possible exception of the eaters closest to the construction arm, the rest of the construction will be fairly straightforward, as long as nobody gets sidetracked by trying to find an optimal algorithm for a fully automated compiler. I've manually compiled slow-salvo recipes up to about 100 objects -- and here, since the two halves of the Demonoid are well-separated and almost identical, there are only eighteen or twenty more still lifes left to deal with!

That doesn't include any self-destruct circuitry, but if that's designed well it won't make the construction problem unmanageable at all. I might have a closer look sometime next week. The main problem is making absolutely sure that all the various construction lanes and blocker-destruction lanes and signal lanes and self-destruct lanes are left open, as self-destruct circuits are added.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 1st, 2015, 9:22 pm

gmc_nxtman wrote:Keep in mind that there are now 4-SL seeds for eater2s located in the slow salvo seeds thread. I have no idea if that will help, however.


OK, I did a proper check of those 4 SL seeds. First of all I don't think this eater2 variant is usable in the syringe because I see no way of preventing it from being destroyed by the following dependent glider:

x = 40, y = 65, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5b3o$8bo$7b2o6$2o$2o13$16b2o$16b2o4$8b2o$7bo2bo$7bob2o$6b2o$5bo3b
2o$6b3obo2$8b2o$8b2o2$16b2o$16b2o7b2o$25bo$23bobo$23b2o4$3b2o$3b2o5$
19bo$18bobo$18bobo$19bo$20b3o$22bo5$37b2o$37bobo$37bo!


The other 4 SL seed looks to be usable in the syringe when the eater2 is orthogonal to the glider source (the eater1 in the 2nd pattern is tricky to make after the eater2 but not impossible):

x = 170, y = 74, rule = LifeHistory
138.A$139.A$137.3A4$2.A47.2D$A.A38.2D7.2D$.2A39.D$42.D.D$43.2D$60.2D
103.D$60.2D101.3D$70.2D90.D$70.D90.D.D$68.D.D90.D.D$68.2D92.D5$146.2D
$146.2D2$163.A$64.2D73.A22.A.A$64.D.D71.A.A21.2A2.2D$66.D72.2A25.D.D$
66.2D100.D$159.2D7.2D$159.2D2$149.D.2D$142.2A3.3D.2D$49.2D90.A2.A.D$
49.2D91.2A2.D.2D.2D$57.2D78.2A8.D.D.D$57.D79.2A12.D$58.3D2.A82.A4.2D$
60.D.A.A80.A.A$62.A.A80.A.A.D$57.2D4.A82.A2.3D$58.D12.2A79.D$58.D.D.D
8.2A78.2D$57.2D.2D.D2.2A91.2D$63.D.A2.A90.2D$57.2D.3D3.2A$57.2D.D2$
49.2D$40.2D7.2D$41.D100.2D$41.D.D25.2A72.D$42.2D25.A.A71.D.D$70.A73.
2D3$62.2D$62.2D3$55.2A$54.A.A$47.D7.A84.2D$46.D.D90.D.D$46.D.D90.D$
47.D90.2D$44.3D101.2D$44.D103.2D$165.2D$165.D.D$167.D$158.2D7.2D$158.
2D!


But with the other two orientations I think the 6 SL seeds that are better behaved are going to be more practical.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 1st, 2015, 9:32 pm

Has anyone looked at getting the Java source code for Paul Chapman's Seeds of Destruction Game to compile? I'm sure it's not difficult, just haven't gotten around to tackling it.

If a version of the SODGame can be rebuilt with this new syringe-based Demonoid as one of the puzzle patterns -- or just fix the copy/paste bug so that new puzzles can be pasted in without crippling the ability to get solutions back out -- then we might be able to get a good competition going for the most efficient self-destruct mechanism.

Putting together a slow-salvo recipe for a self-destruct-seeded Demonoid reflector is the easy part, actually. The hard part is going to be programming the new Demonoid to shoot that slow-salvo recipe. It would be easy to program it inefficiently, but there are so many tricky new construction-arm recipes buried in the last three pages of this thread, that it's going to be a real challenge to figure out how to use them to best advantage.

Singleton gliders, multiple elbows, elbow-destroying recipes versus elbow-preserving recipes, dozens of options per glider output for where the elbow moves to next... I really don't see how we've been able to resist this insurmountable opportunity for so long!

If anyone wants to get involved in helping with this project but has no idea where to start, please speak up and ask questions...
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby Sphenocorona » November 2nd, 2015, 2:28 am

I've just managed to compile Seeds of Destruction under Eclipse, so there's that. Since I'm not sure how I'd need to modify Chris Cain's posted pattern above to put it into SoD yet, it would be helpful if someone could provide me with that. Then I can add it in and compile a copy that can be used until the bugs are found and fixed.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby Scorbie » November 2nd, 2015, 3:19 am

Perhaps rewriting from scratch with python golly script may be faster?
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby Sphenocorona » November 2nd, 2015, 4:23 am

Hmm... doesn't sound much easier to me at least.

I also have found the cause of the bug by a fortunate accidental paste into SoD and a following inspection of the savegame. I am currently editing this post to add details in.

So, when investigating the issues, I had done a paste of the Silver Reflector to see that built-in puzzles still could be copied out. Sure enough, it copied out fine. But when I went back to SoD, I accidentally pasted it back in as a new puzzle. If this re-added version succeeded at copying out, I would know that something about the stored form of the puzzles was causing the issue. I first copied some other pattern to make sure that the clipboard had to be overwritten in order to contain the Silver Reflector. Then I tried copying out the Silver Reflector puzzle clone.

It copied out perfectly.

Now I knew what was causing the difference - the PuzzleNodes for new puzzles were not compatible with the function responsible for returning them to the clipboard. At first, I looked around in the code, but the code seems fine. So I looked in the save game, to see what the difference was there. Turns out, the new puzzles were missing their descriptions.

Now that I know the cause, I'm going to try forcing all added puzzles to get an automatic description. Maybe a note saying when it was added.

EDIT: I've now posted an update in the Seeds of Destruction thread.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 2nd, 2015, 9:44 am

Sphenocorona wrote:I also have found the cause of the bug by a fortunate accidental paste into SoD and a following inspection of the savegame...
EDIT: I've now posted an update in the Seeds of Destruction thread.

Thanks for finding the problem! That suddenly makes the "Paste as new puzzle" option usable again. The tooltip for the Puzzle/Seed button isn't quite accurate any more (it reads "Copy subtree as new puzzle", which is not what either the Puzzle or Seed options do). But you can get a subtree as a new puzzle just by clicking the Golly button followed by the Puzzle button.

Even better, you can copy in LifeHistory patterns to enforce forbidden zones where bait still lifes should not be placed. Here's a trial run at a full new Demonoid destruction puzzle. It's likely to contain subtle errors, so for now it can just be pasted in with the Puzzle button:

x = 212, y = 241, rule = LifeHistory
130.B$129.B.B$128.B3.B$127.B5.B$126.B7.B$125.B9.B$124.B11.B$123.B13.B
$122.B15.B$121.B17.B$120.B19.B$119.B21.B$118.B23.B$117.B25.B$116.B27.
B$115.B29.B$114.B31.B$113.B33.B$112.B35.B$111.B37.B$110.B39.B$109.B
41.B$108.B43.B$107.B45.B$106.3B45.B$105.5B45.B$104.6B8.2A36.B$103.6B
9.A37.B$102.9B4.BA.A37.B$101.13B.B2A13.2A23.B$100.16B14.B2AB22.B$99.
17B15.2B23.B$98.17B17.2B3.B18.B$97.19B15.4B.B2A17.B$96.2B.19B11.8B2A
17.B$95.2B4.20B2.2B2.6B2AB.B18.B$94.B6.32B2A21.B$93.B7.9B.24B21.B$92.
B9.7B2.28B17.B$91.B10.7B2.28B17.B$90.B11.6B4.26B2A16.B$89.B12.7B10.4B
.14B2A16.B$88.B13.6B12.4B2.11B.B17.B$87.B13.7B13.4B2.10B19.B$86.B15.
5B15.14B20.B$85.B15.6B16.14B19.B$84.B15.9B14.13B20.B$83.B15.7B.2A14.
13B20.B$82.2B14.4B5.A15.8B.2B22.B$81.4B12.4B7.3A12.8B25.B$80.B.4B10.
4B10.A12.9B24.B$79.2B2.4B8.4B24.10B23.B$78.2B4.4B6.4B24.7B.4B22.B$77.
2B6.4B4.4B24.8B2.4B21.B$76.3B7.4B2.4B24.8B4.4B20.B$75.4B8.8B25.8B5.4B
19.B$74.3B11.6B24.2AB2.6B5.4B19.B$73.B15.4B24.A.AB.7B6.4B19.B$72.B15.
6B23.A4.6B8.4B19.B$71.B15.8B21.2A4.6B9.4B19.B$70.B14.10B27.6B10.4B19.
B$69.B14.11B26.8B10.4B19.B$68.B15.11B27.8B10.4B19.B$67.B15.11B27.9B
11.4B19.B$66.B15.7B32.9B12.4B19.B$65.B16.3B36.10B12.4B19.B$64.B15.4B
37.5B2A3B13.4B19.B$63.B16.2A39.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B19.B$62.B18.A39.11B3.A
10.4B19.B$61.B16.3A40.12BA.A11.4B19.B$60.B17.A44.8B2.2A13.4B19.B$59.B
56.2A5.7B19.4B19.B$58.B55.2B2AB2.7B22.4B19.B$57.B48.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B
19.B$56.B50.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B19.B$55.B51.A.AB.22B19.4B19.B$54.B53.2AB
.23B19.4B19.B$53.B56.25B20.4B19.B$52.B57.28B18.4B19.B$51.B58.28B19.4B
19.B$50.B60.29B18.4B19.B$49.B62.28B19.4B19.B$48.B64.28B19.4B19.B$47.B
67.26B20.4B19.B$46.B67.27B21.4B19.B$45.B66.2AB.23B24.4B19.B$44.B3.2A
61.A.AB.20B28.4B19.B$43.B4.A62.A4.16B33.4B19.B$42.B2.BA.A61.2A3.18B
33.4B19.B$41.3B.B2A13.2A51.20B33.4B19.B$40.6B14.B2AB51.20B33.4B19.B$
39.7B15.2B55.18B33.4B19.B$38.7B17.2B3.B51.16B35.4B19.B$37.9B15.4B.B2A
52.13B37.4B19.B$36.12B11.8B2A52.3B.2B2A5B38.4B19.B$35.16B2.2B2.6B2AB.
B51.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B19.B$34.29B2A54.2A3.8B42.4B19.B$33.7B.24B55.A4.8B
42.4B19.B$32.7B2.28B48.3A5.8B43.4B19.B$31.8B2.28B48.A8.7B44.4B19.B$
30.B.6B4.26B2A56.7B45.4B19.B$29.B2.7B10.4B.14B2A48.A7.6B47.4B19.B$28.
B3.6B12.4B2.11B.B48.A.A6.6B48.4B19.B$27.B3.7B13.4B2.10B50.A.A6.5B50.
4B19.B$26.B5.6B14.14B49.3A.2A4.6B51.4B19.B$25.B7.5B15.14B47.A4.B6.6B
51.4B19.B$24.B8.6B14.13B49.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B19.B$23.B11.4B14.13B51.A.2A
B.8B54.4B19.B$22.B11.B2A2B14.8B.2B57.10B55.4B19.B$21.B13.2A16.8B60.6B
2A3B55.4B19.B$20.2B31.9B59.6B2A2B5.2A50.4B19.B$19.4B30.10B58.10B5.A
52.4B$18.5B29.7B.4B56.11B2.BA.A53.4B$17.5B29.8B2.4B55.12B.B2A55.4B$
16.4B30.8B4.4B53.15B58.4B$15.6B29.8B5.4B51.16B59.4B$14.5B29.2AB2.6B5.
4B47.2B.16B60.4B$13.5B29.A.AB.7B6.4B45.2A18B61.4B$12.7B28.A4.6B8.4B
44.2AB.17B61.4B$11.7B28.2A4.6B9.4B44.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$10.B.6B34.6B10.
4B50.7B4.4B61.3B$9.B3.3B35.8B10.4B50.6B5.4B$8.B43.8B10.4B51.4B6.4B$7.
B43.9B11.4B52.3BA5.4B$6.B44.9B12.4B52.BA.A5.4B$5.B45.10B12.4B52.A.A6.
4B$4.B46.5B2A3B13.4B52.A8.4B$3.B47.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B52.3A6.4B$2.B48.11B
3.A10.4B53.A7.4B$.B49.12BA.A11.4B61.4B$B52.8B2.2A13.4B61.4B$.B44.2A5.
7B19.4B61.4B$2.B41.2B2AB2.7B22.4B61.4B$3.B32.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B61.4B$4.B
32.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B61.4B$5.B31.A.AB.22B19.4B61.4B$6.B31.2AB.23B19.4B
61.4B$7.B32.25B20.4B61.4B$8.B31.28B18.4B61.4B$9.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$10.
B30.29B18.4B61.4B$11.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$12.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$13.B31.
26B20.4B61.4B$14.B29.27B21.4B61.4B$15.B26.2AB.23B24.4B61.4B$16.B24.A.
AB.20B28.4B61.4B$17.B23.A4.16B33.4B61.4B$18.B21.2A3.18B33.4B61.4B$19.
B24.20B33.4B61.4B$20.B24.20B33.4B61.4B$21.B26.18B33.4B$22.B26.16B35.
4B$23.B27.13B37.4B$24.B26.3B.2B2A5B38.4B$25.B23.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B$26.B
22.2A3.8B42.4B$26.B23.A4.8B42.4B$26.B20.3A5.8B43.4B$26.B20.A8.7B44.4B
$26.B29.7B45.4B$26.B21.A7.6B47.4B$26.B20.A.A6.6B48.4B$26.B20.A.A6.5B
50.4B$26.B18.3A.2A4.6B51.4B$26.B17.A4.B6.6B51.4B$26.B18.3AB2AB3.7B52.
4B$26.B20.A.2AB.8B54.4B$26.B24.10B55.4B$26.B24.6B2A3B55.4B$26.B24.6B
2A2B5.2A50.4B$26.B24.10B5.A52.4B$26.B23.11B2.BA.A53.4B$26.B23.12B.B2A
55.4B$26.B22.15B58.4B$26.B21.16B59.4B$26.B18.2B.16B60.4B$26.B17.2A18B
61.4B$26.B17.2AB.17B61.4B$26.B18.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$26.B25.7B4.4B61.3B$
26.B26.6B5.4B$26.B28.4B6.4B$26.B30.3BA5.4B$26.B31.BA.A5.4B$26.B32.A.A
6.4B$27.B32.A8.4B$28.B32.3A6.4B$29.B33.A7.4B$30.B41.4B$31.B41.4B$32.B
41.4B$33.B41.4B$34.B41.4B$35.B41.4B$36.B41.4B$37.B41.4B$38.B41.4B$39.
B41.4B$40.B41.4B$41.B41.4B$42.B41.4B$43.B41.4B$44.B41.4B$45.B41.4B$
46.B41.4B$47.B41.4B$48.B41.4B$49.B41.4B$50.B41.4B$51.B41.4B$52.B$53.B
$54.B$55.B$56.B$57.B$58.B$59.B$60.B$61.B$62.B$63.B$64.B$65.B$66.B$67.
B$68.B$69.B$70.B$71.B$72.B$73.B$74.B$75.B$76.B$77.B$78.B$79.B$80.B$
81.B!

This contains a huge number of arbitrary judgment calls about things that could change very easily, like the exact location of the A and B blocker constellations. It's based on a blueprint that looks like this:

x = 436, y = 511, rule = LifeHistory
369.4B6.4B$368.4B6.4B$367.4B6.4B$366.4B6.4B$365.4B6.4B$364.4B6.4B$
363.4B6.4B$362.4B6.4B$361.4B6.4B$360.4B6.4B$359.4B6.4B$358.4B6.4B$
357.4B6.4B$356.4B6.4B$355.4B6.4B$354.4B6.4B$353.4B6.4B$352.4B6.4B$
351.4B6.4B$350.4B6.4B$349.4B6.4B$348.4B6.4B$347.4B6.4B$346.4B6.4B$
345.4B6.4B$344.4B6.4B$343.4B6.4B$342.4B6.4B$341.4B6.4B$340.4B6.4B$
339.4B6.4B$338.4B6.4B$337.4B6.4B$336.4B6.4B$335.4B6.4B$334.4B6.4B$
333.4B6.4B$283.D48.4B6.4B$283.D47.4B6.4B$271.7D5.D46.4B6.4B$272.D5.D
4.D45.4B6.4B$272.D6.D48.4B6.4B$272.D7.D46.4B7.4B$272.D7.D45.4B7.5B$
272.D7.D44.4B5.9B$272.D7.D43.4B6.9B$272.D7.D4.D4.D10.D21.4B7.9B$272.D
7.D4.D4.D10.D20.4B6.B.10B$272.D6.D5.D4.D2.2D3.2D.D2.D2.2D2.D.2D6.4B6.
14B$272.7D6.3D2.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D2.D.2D7.4B6.15B8.2E$272.D6.D5.D2.D.D.
D2.D.D3.2D3.4D.D7.4B6.15B9.E$272.D7.D4.D2.D.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D4.D6.4B6.
4B2.12B4.BE.E$272.D7.D5.2D2.D2.2D3.2D.D2.D2.3D.D5.4B6.4B3.15B.B2E13.
2E$272.D7.D35.4B6.4B4.17B14.B2EB$272.D7.D34.4B6.4B5.17B15.2B$272.D7.D
33.4B6.4B3.B.17B17.2B3.B$272.D6.D25.B7.4B6.4B3.2E19B15.4B.B2E$272.D5.
D25.6B2.4B6.4B4.2EB.19B11.8B2E$271.7D26.3BD2B.4B6.4B5.2B4.20B2.2B2.6B
2EB.B$304.2BDBD5B6.4B5.B6.32B2E$304.2BDBD4B6.4B5.B7.9B.24B$305.2BD5B
5.4B5.B9.7B2.28B$305.9B3.4B5.B10.7B2.28B$306.9B.4B5.B11.6B4.26B2E$
304.4B2D9B5.B12.7B10.4B.14B2E$303.5BDBD7B5.B13.6B12.4B2.11B.B$302.8BD
6B5.B13.7B13.4B2.10B$302.8B2D4B5.B15.5B15.14B$301.6B3.6B4.B15.6B16.
14B$300.4B5.8B2.B15.9B14.13B$299.4B6.10B15.7B.2E14.13B$298.4B6.11B14.
4B5.E15.8B.2B$297.4B6.5B2D6B12.4B7.3E12.8B$296.4B6.5BD2BDB.4B10.4B10.
E12.9B$295.4B6.7B2D2B2.4B8.4B24.10B$294.4B6.11B4.4B6.4B24.7B.4B$293.
4B6.11B6.4B4.4B24.8B2.4B$292.4B6.12B7.4B2.4B24.8B4.4B$291.4B6.4B3.6B
8.8B25.8B5.4B$290.4B6.4B5.3B11.6B24.2EB2.6B5.4B$289.4B6.4B5.4B12.4B
24.E.EB.7B6.4B$288.4B6.4B5.B2.B12.6B23.E4.6B8.4B$287.4B6.4B5.B15.8B
21.2E4.6B9.4B$286.4B6.4B5.B14.10B27.6B10.4B$285.4B6.4B5.B14.2B2C7B26.
8B10.4B$284.4B6.4B5.B15.2BCBC6B27.8B10.4B$283.4B6.4B5.B15.4BC6B27.9B
11.4B$282.4B6.4B5.B15.7B32.9B12.4B$281.4B6.4B5.B16.3B36.10B12.4B$280.
4B6.4B5.B15.4B37.5B2E3B13.4B$279.4B6.4B5.B16.2E39.5B2E4B3.2E8.4B$278.
4B6.4B5.B18.E39.11B3.E10.4B$277.4B6.4B5.B16.3E40.12BE.E11.4B$276.4B6.
4B5.B17.E44.8B2.2E13.4B$275.4B6.4B5.B56.2E5.7B19.4B$274.4B6.4B5.B55.
2B2EB2.7B22.4B$273.4B6.4B5.B48.2E6.4B2.9B22.4B$272.4B6.4B5.B50.E5.6B.
11B.2B18.4B$271.4B6.4B5.B51.E.EB.22B19.4B$270.4B6.4B5.B53.2EB.23B19.
4B$269.4B6.4B5.B56.25B20.4B$268.4B6.4B5.B57.28B18.4B$267.5B5.4B5.B58.
28B19.4B$266.6B4.4B5.B60.29B18.4B$264.9B2.4B5.B62.28B19.4B$264.9B.4B
5.B64.28B19.4B$263.14B5.B67.26B20.4B$262.14B5.B67.27B21.4B$211.D49.
14B5.B66.2EB.23B24.4B$211.D48.15B4.B3.2E61.E.EB.20B28.4B$203.2D6.D47.
15B4.B4.E62.E4.16B33.4B$202.D2.D5.D46.4B2.12B.B2.BE.E61.2E3.18B33.4B$
202.D2.D51.4B3.15B.B2E13.2E51.20B33.4B$201.D4.D49.4B4.17B14.B2EB51.
20B33.4B$201.D4.D48.4B5.17B15.2B55.18B33.4B$200.D6.D41.B4.4B3.B.17B
17.2B3.B51.16B35.4B$200.D6.D40.3B2.4B3.2E19B15.4B.B2E52.13B37.4B$199.
D8.D39.8B4.2E21B11.8B2E52.3B.2B2E5B38.4B$199.D8.D4.D4.D10.D17.8B6.4B.
20B2.2B2.6B2EB.B51.4B2.2B2E3B41.4B$199.D8.D4.D4.D10.D13.B3.7B6.4B2.
32B2E54.2E3.8B42.4B$199.10D4.D4.D2.2D3.2D.D2.D2.2D2.D.2D11B5.4B3.9B.
24B55.E4.8B42.4B$199.D8.D4.3D2.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D2.D.2D15B2.4B5.7B2.28B
48.3E5.8B43.4B$199.D8.D4.D2.D.D.D2.D.D3.2D3.4D.D12B2.7B5.8B2.28B48.E
8.7B44.4B$199.D8.D4.D2.D.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D4.D.11B2.6B5.B.6B4.26B2E56.
7B45.4B$199.D8.D5.2D2.D2.2D3.2D.D2.D2.3D.D.18B5.B2.7B10.4B.14B2E48.E
7.6B47.4B$199.D8.D30.B.17B5.B3.6B12.4B2.11B.B48.E.E6.6B48.4B$199.D8.D
29.19B5.B3.7B13.4B2.10B50.E.E6.5B50.4B$199.D8.D29.18B5.B5.6B14.14B49.
3E.2E4.6B51.4B$199.D8.D28.18B5.B7.5B15.14B47.E4.B6.6B51.4B$199.D8.D
28.18B4.B8.6B14.13B49.3EB2EB3.7B52.4B$235.19B4.B11.4B14.13B51.E.2EB.
8B54.4B$233.21B3.B11.B2E2B14.8B.2B57.10B55.4B$227.B2.25B.B13.2E16.8B
60.6B2E3B55.4B$226.31B31.9B59.6B2E2B5.2E50.4B$225.33B30.10B58.10B5.E
52.4B$224.21BE12B29.7B.4B56.11B2.BE.E53.4B$222.21B3E11B29.8B2.4B55.
12B.B2E55.4B$221.21BE12B30.8B4.4B53.15B58.4B$221.2B2E17B2E12B29.8B5.
4B51.16B59.4B$222.B2E29B29.2EB2.6B5.4B47.2B.16B60.4B$221.32B29.E.EB.
7B6.4B45.2E18B61.4B$222.32B28.E4.6B8.4B44.2EB.17B61.4B$224.21B.7B28.
2E4.6B9.4B44.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$226.15B2.B.B.6B34.6B10.4B50.7B4.4B61.3B
$225.5B.9B4.B3.3B35.8B10.4B50.6B5.4B$224.4B3.9B3.B43.8B10.4B51.4B6.4B
$223.4B6.6B3.B43.9B11.4B52.3BE5.4B$222.4B6.4B.B3.B44.9B12.4B52.BE.E5.
4B$221.4B6.4B5.B45.10B12.4B52.E.E6.4B$220.4B6.4B5.B46.5B2E3B13.4B52.E
8.4B$219.4B6.4B5.B47.5B2E4B3.2E8.4B52.3E6.4B$218.4B6.4B.B3.B48.11B3.E
10.4B53.E7.4B$217.4B6.4B3.B.B49.12BE.E11.4B61.4B$216.4B6.4B5.B52.8B2.
2E13.4B61.4B$215.4B6.4B5.B.B44.2E5.7B19.4B61.4B$214.4B6.4B5.B3.B41.2B
2EB2.7B22.4B61.4B$213.4B6.4B5.B5.B32.2E6.4B2.9B22.4B61.4B$212.4B6.4B
5.B7.B32.E5.6B.11B.2B18.4B61.4B$211.4B6.4B5.B9.B31.E.EB.22B19.4B61.4B
$210.4B6.4B5.B11.B31.2EB.23B19.4B61.4B$209.4B6.4B5.B13.B32.25B20.4B
61.4B$208.4B6.4B5.B15.B31.28B18.4B61.4B$207.4B6.4B5.B17.B30.28B19.4B
61.4B$206.4B6.4B5.B19.B30.29B18.4B61.4B$205.4B6.4B5.B21.B30.28B19.4B
61.4B$204.4B6.4B5.B23.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$203.4B6.4B5.B25.B31.26B20.4B
61.4B$202.4B6.4B5.B27.B29.27B21.4B61.4B$201.4B6.4B5.B29.B26.2EB.23B
24.4B61.4B$141.7D52.4B6.4B5.B31.B24.E.EB.20B28.4B61.4B20.D$142.D5.D
50.4B6.4B5.B33.B23.E4.16B33.4B61.4B19.D$142.D6.D48.4B6.4B5.B35.B21.2E
3.18B33.4B61.4B10.2D6.D$142.D7.D46.4B6.5B4.B37.B24.20B33.4B61.4B8.D2.
D5.D$142.D7.D45.4B7.5B3.B39.B24.20B33.4B61.4B7.D2.D$142.D7.D44.4B5.9B
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2B5.2D50.4B19.B$28.10B58.10B5.D52.4B$27.7B.4B56.11B2.BD.D53.4B$26.8B
2.4B55.12B.B2D55.4B$25.8B4.4B53.15B58.4B$25.8B5.4B51.16B59.4B$23.2DB
2.6B5.4B47.2B.16B60.4B$22.D.DB.7B6.4B45.2D18B61.4B$22.D4.6B8.4B44.2DB
.17B61.4B$21.2D4.6B9.4B44.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$27.6B10.4B50.7B4.4B61.3B$
26.8B10.4B50.6B5.4B$27.8B10.4B51.4B6.4B$26.9B11.4B52.3BD5.4B$26.9B12.
4B52.BD.D5.4B$26.10B12.4B52.D.D6.4B$26.5B2D3B13.4B52.D8.4B$26.5B2D4B
3.2D8.4B52.3D6.4B$26.11B3.D10.4B53.D7.4B$26.12BD.D11.4B61.4B$28.8B2.
2D13.4B61.4B$21.2D5.7B19.4B61.4B$19.2B2DB2.7B22.4B61.4B$11.2D6.4B2.9B
22.4B61.4B$12.D5.6B.11B.2B18.4B61.4B$12.D.DB.22B19.4B61.4B$13.2DB.23B
19.4B61.4B$15.25B20.4B61.4B$15.28B18.4B61.4B$15.28B19.4B61.4B$16.29B
18.4B61.4B$17.28B19.4B61.4B$18.28B19.4B61.4B$20.26B20.4B61.4B$19.27B
21.4B61.4B$17.2DB.23B24.4B61.4B$16.D.DB.20B28.4B61.4B$16.D4.16B33.4B
61.4B$15.2D3.18B33.4B61.4B10.2D$19.20B33.4B61.4B8.D2.D$20.20B33.4B61.
4B7.D2.D$23.18B33.4B70.D4.D$24.16B35.4B69.D4.D$26.13B37.4B67.D6.D$26.
3B.2B2D5B38.4B66.D6.D$24.4B2.2B2D3B41.4B64.D8.D$24.2D3.8B42.4B50.D7.D
4.D8.D$25.D4.8B42.4B49.D7.D4.D8.D$22.3D5.8B43.4B48.D7.D4.10D$22.D8.7B
44.4B47.D7.D4.D8.D$31.7B45.4B46.D7.D4.D8.D$23.D7.6B47.4B39.3D3.D3.3D.
D4.D8.D$22.D.D6.6B48.4B37.D3.D2.D2.D3.2D4.D8.D$22.D.D6.5B50.4B35.D5.D
.D.D5.D4.D8.D$20.3D.2D4.6B51.4B34.D5.D.D.D5.D4.D8.D$19.D4.B6.6B51.4B
33.D5.D.D.D5.D4.D8.D$20.3DB2DB3.7B52.4B33.D3.D2.D2.D3.2D4.D8.D$22.D.
2DB.8B54.4B33.3D3.D3.3D.D4.D8.D$26.10B55.4B$26.6B2D3B55.4B$26.6B2D2B
5.2D50.4B$26.10B5.D52.4B$25.11B2.BD.D53.4B$25.12B.B2D55.4B$24.15B58.
4B$23.16B59.4B$20.2B.16B60.4B$19.2D18B61.4B$19.2DB.17B61.4B$20.B.4B.
8B2.4B61.4B$27.7B4.4B61.3B$28.6B5.4B$30.4B6.4B$32.3BD5.4B$33.BD.D5.4B
$34.D.D6.4B$35.D8.4B$36.3D6.4B$38.D7.4B$47.4B$48.4B$49.4B$50.4B$51.4B
$52.4B$53.4B$54.4B$55.4B$56.4B$57.4B$58.4B$59.4B$60.4B$61.4B$62.4B$
63.4B$64.4B$65.4B$66.4B6.7D$67.4B6.D5.D$68.4B5.D6.D$77.D7.D$77.D7.D$
77.D7.D$77.D7.D$77.D7.D$63.D7.D5.D7.D$63.D7.D5.D6.D$63.D7.D5.7D$63.D
7.D5.D6.D$63.D7.D5.D7.D$57.3D3.D3.3D.D5.D7.D$56.D3.D2.D2.D3.2D5.D7.D$
55.D5.D.D.D5.D5.D7.D$55.D5.D.D.D5.D5.D7.D$55.D5.D.D.D5.D5.D6.D$56.D3.
D2.D2.D3.2D5.D5.D$57.3D3.D3.3D.D4.7D!

No doubt a lot of adjustments will have to be made. I'm not sure I found the latest and best A and B blocker recipes from previous pages of the thread, for example. Both A and B blocker recipes are found in this post by chris_c, way back on the first page of this thread.

When designing self-destruct circuitry it will be best to stay as far away from the NE boundary line as possible. It's not a problem of a large spark overlaps the SW boundary line, because there won't be anything beyond it -- but sparks that cross the NE boundary line might hit self-destruct circuitry near the SW boundary of the next Demonoid R.U. (replicator unit).

With any luck I'll have an update later today with some good ideas about exactly where the glider(s) will be coming from, to trigger a self-destruct sequence. If anyone has an irresistible answer for this, please chime in. Possibilities include

1) build a chain of one-time turners starting between A and B', that leads a glider southwest through or around the A and B circuits to strike something in oldA (while not hitting any of the self-destruct circuitry in A or B); or

2) use chris_c's 180-degree elbow technology to fire at a slow elbow on the northwest side -- maybe a conversion product of the leftover block from the oldA blocker? -- to produce one or more gliders heading southeast.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 2nd, 2015, 11:11 am

Adapting the walkthrough from this post, here's a reminder of how the whole Demonoid system works.

This type of serial universal constructor is run by two long streams of gliders in series. Let's call the first stream "A", and the one that follows directly behind it is "B". The action goes like this:

  • The A-gliders start to enter Circuit B (at the B label).

      At this point, oldA and oldB circuits still exist. In fact, the B-gliders are just starting to pass through the oldA circuit. But the oldA output is blocked by the eater I've labeled as A blocker, so the B gliders are harmlessly reflected. They'll be back later.
  • The A gliders are reflected, and output gliders on the construction arm are absorbed by the boat-bit-catching eater in the B-blocker constellation.
  • The A gliders are reflected again in the same way, by a mirrored copy of the U.C., far far away in the southeast.
  • The A gliders return and start to re-enter the original U.C., this time in Circuit A where they belong.
  • The first signal passing through Circuit A creates a sideways glider that hits an OTT (one-time turner -- the white boat). This damages B-blocker so that it can no longer stop B-gliders. All future sideways gliders on that OTT lane are absorbed by the off-to-the-side fishhook eater.
  • The first true B-glider emitted by Circuit B cleans up the damaged B-blocker constellation. Or I guess the last A-glider might manage to do it, if the relative timing on the last A+B pair works out right...
  • The A signals are reflected southeast again, to run through the second half of the replicator unit there, where all the exact same things happen.
  • We have construction! Any combination of slow pairs and singleton gliders can now be produced on construction lanes A and B. The only timing restriction is that A gliders must be at least 153 ticks apart, and the same for B gliders.
  • A very long slow-salvo recipe uses an elbow block (not shown) to construct all of A' and B', except for the B' block that's between the two construction lanes.
  • The elbow is pushed far northeast to where the next construction will start.
  • The elbow is duplicated, and the near elbow is pulled back to the B'-blocker location.
  • B' blocker is constructed, leaving another near elbow, which is pulled back to B'.
  • The last B' block is constructed, leaving another near elbow, which is pulled back to the A'-blocker location.
  • The next step isn't well-defined yet: we have to build A'-blocker, but also generate a self-destruct signal. Maybe these two steps can be conveniently combined somehow?
    • Option 1: A second one-time turner sends the lead Herschel signal southwest to trigger a self-destruct circuit (not shown) which destroys the entire previous Demonoid U.C. (oldA and oldB, in red.)
    • Option 2: A chris_c 180-degree offset elbow, plus a secondary slow elbow, progressively shoots down all the still lifes in oldA and oldB.
  • The last cooperating A and B gliders build A'-blocker.
  • The B gliders start coming in to Circuit A. We don't want them producing unmatched gliders on the old A construction-arm lane -- so those outputs are all conveniently absorbed by A'-blocker.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 2nd, 2015, 3:00 pm

dvgrn wrote:Adapting the walkthrough from this post, here's a reminder of how the whole Demonoid system works...

Suggestions for better options are certainly welcome, especially for triggering the self-destruct cleanup. As it stands, that signal has to cross at least one active syringe-reflector component -- easy enough to arrange, but seems kind of suboptimal.

One entertaining idea is that oldA could be sent a self-destruct signal as soon as it stops functioning. Then after another back-and-forth cycle, it would be oldB's turn. This isn't my favorite idea, because it means extracting self-destruct signals separately from the first signals entering the A and B circuits, and that's a little more expensive I think. But it would have a certain elegance, I suppose.

An interesting way to make this work would be to have the self-destruct signal be completely independent -- it would basically follow the final B-glider back and forth between the northwest and southeast U.C.s, cleaning up one syringe-reflector component at a time, the moment they weren't in use any more.

The more I think about it the more I like this idea, actually. It requires exact timing for the one-time reflector circuit: the self-destruct signal heading SE has to be in exactly the same location relative to the Last SE-Traveling B-Glider, as the NW self-destruct signal was in relation to the Last NW-Traveling B-Glider. But that's really easy to arrange, and only costs a couple of still lifes -- probably less than any possible way of extracting a glider from an early signal way up front at B'.

I'll have a look at that option. If it works, it will give a really good hint as to where the self-destruct glider signal should be coming from, in the new Seeds of Destruction puzzle. EDIT: It will be something kind of like this, except with three more cells' worth of room available to move the two-boat trombone slide back:

x = 212, y = 241, rule = LifeHistory
130.B$129.B.B$128.B3.B$127.B5.B$126.B7.B$125.B9.B$124.B11.B$123.B13.B
$122.B15.B$121.B17.B$120.B19.B$119.B21.B$118.B23.B$117.B25.B$116.B27.
B$115.B29.B$114.B31.B$113.B33.B$112.B35.B$111.B37.B$110.B39.B$109.B
41.B$108.B43.B$107.B45.B$106.3B45.B$105.5B45.B$104.6B8.2A36.B$103.6B
9.A37.B$102.9B4.BA.A37.B$101.13B.B2A13.2A23.B$100.16B14.B2AB22.B$99.
17B15.2B23.B$98.17B17.2B3.B18.B$97.19B15.4B.B2A17.B$96.2B.19B11.8B2A
17.B$95.2B4.20B2.2B2.6B2AB.B18.B$94.B6.32B2A21.B$93.B7.9B.24B21.B$92.
B9.7B2.28B17.B$91.B10.7B2.28B17.B$90.B11.6B4.26B2A16.B$89.B12.7B10.4B
.14B2A16.B$88.B13.6B12.4B2.11B.B17.B$87.B13.7B13.4B2.10B19.B$86.B15.
5B15.14B20.B$85.B15.6B16.14B19.B$84.B15.9B14.13B20.B$83.B15.7B.2A14.
13B20.B$82.2B14.4B5.A15.8B.2B22.B$81.4B12.4B7.3A12.8B25.B$80.B.4B10.
4B10.A12.9B24.B$79.2B2.4B8.4B24.10B23.B$78.2B4.4B6.4B24.7B.4B22.B$77.
2B6.4B4.4B24.8B2.4B21.B$76.3B7.4B2.4B24.8B4.4B20.B$75.4B8.8B25.8B5.4B
19.B$74.3B11.6B24.2AB2.6B5.4B19.B$73.B15.4B24.A.AB.7B6.4B19.B$72.B15.
6B23.A4.6B8.4B19.B$71.B15.8B21.2A4.6B9.4B19.B$70.B14.10B27.6B10.4B19.
B$69.B14.11B26.8B10.4B19.B$68.B15.11B27.8B10.4B19.B$67.B15.11B27.9B
11.4B19.B$66.B15.7B32.9B12.4B19.B$65.B16.3B36.10B12.4B19.B$64.B15.4B
37.5B2A3B13.4B19.B$63.B16.2A39.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B19.B$62.B18.A39.11B3.A
10.4B19.B$61.B16.3A40.12BA.A11.4B19.B$60.B17.A44.8B2.2A13.4B19.B$59.B
56.2A5.7B19.4B19.B$58.B55.2B2AB2.7B22.4B19.B$57.B48.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B
19.B$56.B50.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B19.B$55.B51.A.AB.22B19.4B19.B$54.B53.2AB
.23B19.4B19.B$53.B56.25B20.4B19.B$52.B57.28B18.4B19.B$51.B58.28B19.4B
19.B$50.B60.29B18.4B19.B$49.B62.28B19.4B19.B$48.B64.28B19.4B19.B$47.B
67.26B20.4B19.B$46.B67.27B21.4B19.B$45.B66.2AB.23B24.4B19.B$44.B3.2A
61.A.AB.20B28.4B19.B$43.B4.A62.A4.16B33.4B19.B$42.B2.BA.A61.2A3.18B
33.4B19.B$41.3B.B2A13.2A51.20B33.4B19.B$40.6B14.B2AB51.20B33.4B19.B$
39.7B15.2B55.18B33.4B19.B$34.2E2.7B17.2B3.B51.16B35.4B19.B$34.2E.9B
15.4B.B2A52.13B37.4B19.B$36.12B11.8B2A52.3B.2B2A5B38.4B19.B$35.16B2.
2B2.6B2AB.B51.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B19.B$34.29B2A54.2A3.8B42.4B19.B$33.7B.
24B55.A4.8B42.4B19.B$32.7B2.28B48.3A5.8B43.4B19.B$31.8B2.28B48.A8.7B
44.4B19.B$30.B.6B4.26B2A56.7B45.4B19.B$29.B2.7B10.4B.14B2A48.A7.6B47.
4B19.B$28.B3.6B12.4B2.11B.B48.A.A6.6B48.4B19.B$27.B3.7B13.4B2.10B50.A
.A6.5B50.4B19.B$26.B5.6B14.14B49.3A.2A4.6B51.4B19.B$25.B7.5B15.14B47.
A4.B6.6B51.4B19.B$24.B8.6B14.13B49.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B19.B$23.B11.4B14.
13B51.A.2AB.8B54.4B19.B$22.B11.B2A2B14.8B.2B57.10B55.4B19.B$21.B13.2A
16.8B60.6B2A3B55.4B19.B$20.2B31.9B59.6B2A2B5.2A50.4B19.B$19.4B30.10B
58.10B5.A52.4B$18.5B29.7B.4B56.11B2.BA.A53.4B$17.5B29.8B2.4B55.12B.B
2A55.4B$16.4B30.8B4.4B53.15B58.4B$15.6B29.8B5.4B51.16B59.4B$14.5B29.
2AB2.6B5.4B47.2B.16B60.4B$13.5B29.A.AB.7B6.4B45.2A18B61.4B$12.7B28.A
4.6B8.4B44.2AB.17B61.4B$11.7B28.2A4.6B9.4B44.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$10.B.6B
34.6B10.4B50.7B4.4B61.3B$9.B3.3B35.8B10.4B50.6B5.4B$8.B43.8B10.4B51.
4B6.4B$7.B43.9B11.4B9.A42.3BA5.4B$6.B44.9B12.4B7.A.A42.BA.A5.4B$5.B
45.10B12.4B7.2A43.A.A6.4B$4.B46.5B2A3B13.4B52.A8.4B$3.B47.5B2A4B3.2A
8.4B52.3A6.4B$2.B48.11B3.A10.4B53.A7.4B$.B49.12BA.A11.4B61.4B$B52.8B
2.2A13.4B61.4B$.B44.2A5.7B19.4B61.4B$2.B41.2B2AB2.7B22.4B61.4B$3.B32.
2A6.4B2.9B8.2A12.4B61.4B$4.B32.A5.6B.11B.2B2.A.A13.4B61.4B$5.B31.A.AB
.22B3.A15.4B61.4B$6.B31.2AB.23B19.4B61.4B$7.B32.25B20.4B61.4B$8.B31.
28B18.4B61.4B$9.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$10.B30.29B18.4B61.4B$11.B30.28B19.
4B61.4B$12.B30.28B19.4B61.4B$13.B31.26B20.4B61.4B$14.B29.27B21.4B61.
4B$15.B26.2AB.23B24.4B61.4B$16.B24.A.AB.20B28.4B61.4B$17.B23.A4.16B
33.4B61.4B$18.B21.2A3.18B33.4B61.4B$19.B24.20B33.4B61.4B$20.B24.20B
33.4B61.4B$21.B26.18B33.4B.C$22.B26.16B35.2BCBC$23.B27.13B37.2B2C$24.
B26.3B.2B2A5B38.4B$25.B23.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B$26.B22.2A3.8B42.4B$26.B23.A
4.8B42.4B$26.B20.3A5.8B43.4B$26.B20.A8.7B44.4B$26.B29.7B45.4B$26.B21.
A7.6B47.4B$26.B20.A.A6.6B48.4B$26.B20.A.A6.5B50.4B$26.B18.3A.2A4.6B
51.4B$26.B17.A4.B6.6B51.4B$26.B18.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B$26.B20.A.2AB.8B54.
4B$26.B24.10B55.4B$26.B24.6B2A3B55.4B$26.B24.6B2A2B5.2A50.4B$26.B24.
10B5.A52.4B$26.B23.11B2.BA.A53.4B$26.B23.12B.B2A55.4B$26.B22.15B58.4B
$26.B21.16B59.4B$26.B18.2B.16B55.2A3.4B$26.B17.2A18B55.A.A3.4B$26.B
17.2AB.17B55.A5.3BC$26.B18.B.4B.8B2.4B61.CBC$26.B25.7B4.4B61.2C$26.B
26.6B5.4B$26.B28.4B6.4B45.A$26.B30.3BA5.4B43.A.A$26.B31.BA.A5.4B43.2A
$26.B32.A.A6.4B$27.B24.2A6.A8.4B$28.B23.2A7.3A6.4B$29.B33.A7.4B$30.B
41.B3C$31.B41.C3B$32.B41.C3B$33.B22.2A17.4B$34.B21.2A18.4B$35.B41.4B$
36.B41.4B$37.B41.4B$38.B41.4B$39.B41.4B$40.B41.4B$41.B41.4B$42.B41.4B
$43.B41.4B$44.B41.4B$45.B41.4B$46.B41.4B$47.B41.4B$48.B41.4B$49.B41.
4B$50.B41.4B$51.B41.4B$52.B$53.B$54.B$55.B44.3C$56.B43.C$57.B43.C$58.
B$59.B$60.B$61.B$62.B$63.B$64.B$65.B$66.B$67.B$68.B$69.B$70.B$71.B$
72.B$73.B$74.B$75.B$76.B$77.B$78.B$79.B$80.B$81.B!

Sour grapes -- the LWSS was making me build boats too far away from everything else anyway.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 2nd, 2015, 6:50 pm

Here is another idea. I want the A-circuit and the B-circuit to be identical so that we can cut the construction and destruction into two identical halves. To achieve this requires some tricky placement of still lifes near to the construction lanes but it should be doable with some effort.

The idea in the pattern below is that all of the yellow cells were built by the green constructor. The first glider into the A-circuit reflects off two boats (or any other suitable constellation) to open up the B-lane. Then 9 180 degree gliders are fired to destroy all of the green cells plus the yellow A-blocker.

x = 757, y = 907, rule = LifeHistory
755.A$754.A$754.3A24$735.A$734.A$734.3A13$720.A$719.A$719.3A18$710.A$
709.A$709.3A24$696.A$695.A$695.3A98$564.A$563.A$563.3A30$526.A$525.A$
525.3A37$493.A$492.A$492.3A30$455.A$454.A$454.3A230$252.4B6.4B$251.4B
6.4B$250.4B6.4B$249.4B6.4B$248.4B6.4B$247.4B6.4B$246.4B6.4B$245.4B6.
4B$244.4B6.4B$243.4B6.4B$242.4B6.4B$241.4B6.4B$240.4B6.4B$234.E4.4B6.
4B$233.E.E2.4B6.4B$233.2E2.4B6.4B$236.4B6.4B$235.4B6.4B$234.4B6.B2EB$
196.E36.4B6.2BEBE$195.E.E34.4B6.4BE$196.2E33.4B6.4B$230.4B6.4B$229.4B
6.4B$228.4B6.4B$227.4B6.4B$226.4B6.4B$225.4B6.4B$224.4B6.4B$223.4B6.
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$24.B32.A8.4B$25.B32.3A6.4B$26.B33.A7.4B$27.B41.4B$28.B41.4B$29.B41.
4B$30.B41.4B$31.B41.4B$32.B41.4B$33.B41.4B$34.B41.4B$35.B41.4B$36.B
41.4B$37.B41.4B$38.B41.4B$39.B41.4B$40.B41.4B$41.B41.4B$42.B41.4B$43.
B41.4B$44.B41.4B$45.B41.4B$46.B41.4B6.7D$47.B41.4B6.D5.D$48.B41.4B5.D
6.D$49.B49.D7.D$50.B48.D7.D$51.B47.D7.D$52.B46.D7.D$53.B45.D7.D$54.B
44.D7.D$55.B43.D6.D$56.B42.7D$57.B41.D6.D$58.B40.D7.D$59.B39.D7.D$60.
B38.D7.D$61.B37.D7.D$62.B36.D7.D$63.B35.D6.D$64.B34.D5.D$65.B32.7D$
66.B$67.B$68.B$69.B$70.B$71.B$72.B$73.B$74.B$75.B$76.B$77.B$78.B!


I think the general idea is nice and simple but building those extra still lifes is definitely the tricky part.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 2nd, 2015, 7:47 pm

chris_c wrote:Here is another idea. I want the A-circuit and the B-circuit to be identical so that we can cut the construction and destruction into two identical halves... I think the general idea is nice and simple but building those extra still lifes is definitely the tricky part.

I remember those sneaky zero-degree offsetters. It's a good plan if we need it, but I'm not sure it will be necessary. For simplicity's sake I'd like to build as little as possible northwest of the construction lanes. It's possible that nothing will be needed over there at all.

Your idea of identical A and B circuits is completely compatible with my idea of a carefully-timed self-destruct signal following at a precise distance from the Last B-Glider. If the two circuits are identical, then the self-destruct circuitry can likewise be identical.

If there have to be some adjustments to account for A-blocker and B-blocker differences, they'll probably be just minor changes to the self-destruct circuitry at the northwest edge, and everything else can still be identical.

Here's a sample pattern. Just imagine that more self-destruct circuits are added, so that the trailing glider destroys the entire A and B circuits instead of just the hive-with-tail and eater:

x = 322, y = 257, rule = LifeHistory
110.2A$110.A$108.A.A$108.2A13.2A$123.2A3$129.2A$129.2A$96.F28.2A$125.
2A4$130.2A$130.2A6$99.2A$99.A$100.3A$102.A5$144.A$110.2A31.A.A$109.A.
A31.2A$109.A$108.2A7$118.2A$72.2A44.2A7.2A$73.A53.A$70.3A52.A.A$70.A
54.2A9.A$108.2A25.A.A$108.2A26.2A$98.2A$99.A$99.A.A$100.2A6$160.2A$
160.2A2$104.2A63.2A$40.2A61.A.A63.2A$40.A62.A$38.A.A61.2A$38.2A13.2A$
53.2A$169.2A$169.2A$59.2A$59.2A58.2A$26.F28.2A62.2A$55.2A54.2A$112.A$
109.3A$109.A$60.2A$60.2A48.A$109.A.A$109.A.A$107.3A.2A$106.A$107.3A.
2A$29.2A78.A.2A$29.A$30.3A86.2A$32.A86.2A7.2A7.2A$128.A8.2A$126.A.A
126.2A4.2A$126.2A127.2A4.2A2$74.A$40.2A31.A.A$39.A.A31.2A31.2A$39.A
66.2A36.2A$38.2A104.2A2$264.2A$264.2A$122.A$121.A.A$121.A.A$48.2A72.A
$2.2A44.2A7.2A64.3A$3.A53.A67.A$3A52.A.A$A54.2A9.A$38.2A25.A.A$38.2A
26.2A$28.2A$29.A$29.A.A$30.2A$228.2A61.A$228.2A60.A.A$290.2A3$90.2A$
90.2A$153.A82.2A$34.2A63.2A135.2A37.2A$33.A.A63.2A174.A.A$33.A242.A$
32.2A123.A3$99.2A205.2A$99.2A60.A144.2A5.2A$237.A75.2A$49.2A184.3A42.
A$49.2A183.A43.3A$41.2A122.A68.2A41.A33.2A$42.A176.2A56.2A32.2A$39.3A
178.A96.2A$39.A180.A.2A93.2A$169.A51.A2.A$40.A181.2A$39.A.A195.2A13.
2A$39.A.A195.2A13.2A26.2A$37.3A.2A130.A106.2A$36.A$37.3A.2A$39.A.2A2$
49.2A$49.2A7.2A7.2A171.2A.A6.2A$58.A8.2A171.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A$56.A.
A187.A2.A41.A27.3A$56.2A182.2A.3A2.2A25.2A11.3A27.A$241.A.A31.2A11.A
29.2A$229.2A10.A.A$229.2A11.A$36.2A223.2A$36.2A36.2A186.A$74.2A183.3A
$259.A37.2A$271.2A25.A$195.2A4.2A68.A26.A.A$52.A142.2A4.2A69.3A24.2A$
51.A.A220.A$51.A.A$52.A259.F$53.3A$55.A$65.3C$65.C$66.C137.2A$204.2A
15$168.2A61.A$168.2A60.A.A$230.2A47.2A$278.A.A$278.A$277.2A2$92.3C81.
2A$92.C83.2A37.2A$93.C121.A.A$216.A4$246.2A$246.2A5.2A$177.A75.2A$
175.3A42.A$174.A43.3A$174.2A41.A33.2A$159.2A56.2A32.2A$160.A96.2A$
160.A.2A93.2A$161.A2.A$162.2A$177.2A13.2A$177.2A13.2A26.2A$220.2A6$
180.2A.A6.2A$180.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A$186.A2.A41.A27.3A$180.2A.3A2.2A
25.2A11.3A27.A$181.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$169.2A10.A.A$169.2A11.A$201.2A$
202.A$199.3A$199.A37.2A$211.2A25.A$211.A26.A.A$212.3A24.2A$214.A2$
252.F23$219.2A$218.A.A$218.A$217.2A!

In this example it costs seven still lifes per circuit to get the trailing cleanup glider synchronized. That can almost certainly be reduced to three or four -- but even if it's seven, it seems as if that will be a lot cheaper and easier than building a string of constellations very close to the construction lanes.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 3rd, 2015, 10:34 am

dvgrn wrote:In this example it costs seven still lifes per circuit to get the trailing cleanup glider synchronized. That can almost certainly be reduced to three or four -- but even if it's seven, it seems as if that will be a lot cheaper and easier than building a string of constellations very close to the construction lanes.


Let's see. A suitable pair of boats to do the 180 degree reflection can be constructed behind the elbow in just 20 glider pairs:

x = 1539, y = 1541, rule = LifeHistory
1537.2A$1537.2A25$1506.3A$1508.A$1507.A78$1426.3A$1428.A$1427.A$1433.
A$1433.2A$1432.A.A74$1347.A$1347.2A$1346.A.A9$1346.2A$1347.2A$1346.A
82$1262.2A$1263.2A$1262.A68$1192.3A$1194.A$1193.A62$1118.3A$1120.A$
1119.A14$1112.2A$1113.2A$1112.A62$1038.3A$1040.A$1039.A5$1041.A$1041.
2A$1040.A.A66$973.3A$975.A$974.A3$958.3A$960.A$959.A89$867.2A$866.A.A
$868.A6.2A$876.2A$875.A46$817.2A$816.A.A$818.A3$822.A$822.2A$821.A.A
73$737.2A$736.A.A$738.A9$736.2A$737.2A$736.A67$657.2A$656.A.A$658.A6$
659.3A$661.A$660.A70$577.2A$576.A.A$578.A14$571.2A$572.2A$571.A62$
497.A$497.2A$496.A.A10$495.2A$496.2A$495.A88$395.3A$397.A$396.A5$398.
A$398.2A$397.A.A96$300.3A$302.A$301.A53$235.3A$237.A$236.A19$224.3A$
226.A$225.A52$160.3A$162.A$161.A4$164.A$164.2A$163.A.A97$65.3A$67.A$
66.A53$3A$2.A$.A4$4.A$4.2A$3.A.A!


The first singleton glider on the A-circuit is sufficient to open up the B-blocker and then one more 180 degree glider can kill the rest of the junk:

x = 115, y = 119, rule = LifeHistory
113.C$112.C$112.3C56$46.4B6.2B$45.4B6.3B$44.4B6.4B$43.BC2B6.4B$42.BCB
C6.4B$41.2B2C6.B2CB$40.4B6.2BCBC$39.4B6.4BC$38.4B6.4B$37.4B6.4B$36.4B
6.4B$35.4B6.4B$34.4B6.4B$33.4B6.4B$32.4B6.4B$31.4B6.4B$30.4B6.4B$29.
4B6.4B$28.4B6.4B$27.4B6.4B$26.4B7.4B$25.4B7.5B$24.4B5.9B$23.4B6.9B$
22.4B7.9B$21.4B6.B.10B$20.4B6.14B$19.4B6.15B8.2C$18.4B6.15B9.C$17.4B
6.4B2.12B4.BC.C$16.4B6.4B3.15B.B2C$15.4B6.4B4.17B$14.4B6.4B5.17B$13.
4B6.4B3.B.17B$4.B7.4B6.4B3.2C19B$3.6B2.4B6.4B4.2CB.19B$3.3BC2B.4B6.4B
5.2B4.20B2.B$3.2BCBC5B6.4B12.16BC6B$3.2BCBC4B6.4B13.9B.4BCBC6B$4.2BC
5B5.4B15.7B2.4B3C6B$4.9B3.4B16.7B2.4BC8B$5.9B.4B17.6B4.12B$3.4B2C9B
18.7B10.4B$2.5BCBC7B19.6B12.4B$.8BC6B19.7B13.3B$.8B2C4B21.6B14.2B$6B
3.6B22.5B15.B$3B5.8B21.6B14.B$2B6.9B22.4B14.B$B6.11B20.B2C2B$6.5B2C4B
22.2C$5.5BC2BCB.B$4.7B2C2B$3.11B$2.11B$.12B$4B3.6B$3B5.3B$2B5.4B$B5.B
2.B$5.B!


This is cheap and allows both circuits to be identical. It definitely seems like a good addition to the plan.

The sneaky offsetters can be built in either color from the loaf here and then 6 lateral gliders:

x = 2021, y = 991, rule = LifeHistory
260.2C798.2C$260.2C798.2C14$240.3A797.3A$242.A799.A$241.A799.A11$237.
2A798.2A$236.A.A797.A.A$238.A799.A80$155.3A797.3A$157.A799.A$156.A
799.A61$92.3A797.3A$94.A799.A$80.3A10.A786.3A10.A$82.A799.A$81.A799.A
77$.A799.A$.2A798.2A$A.A797.A.A6$3.3A797.3A$5.A799.A$4.A799.A196$
1512.2A$1512.A.A$1512.A21$743.3A$743.A$744.A75$1613.2A$1613.A.A$1613.
A21$843.3A$843.A$844.A75$1713.2A$1713.A.A$1713.A20$945.A$944.2A$944.A
.A76$1813.2A$1812.2A$1814.A22$1043.3A$1043.A$1044.A74$1912.2A$1912.A.
A$1912.A25$1139.3A$1139.A$1140.A66$2018.2A$2018.A.A$2018.A31$1239.3A$
1239.A$1240.A!


The first construction is repeatable at 9fd offset and the second is repeatable at 6fd offset. Both block pairs seem far enough away from the construction lanes to not interfere with anything else. If anyone wants to go down this route it looks viable to me.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 3rd, 2015, 11:26 am

chris_c wrote:The first singleton glider on the A-circuit is sufficient to open up the B-blocker and then one more 180 degree glider can kill the rest of the junk...
This is cheap and allows both circuits to be identical. It definitely seems like a good addition to the plan.

I was a little confused by this part last night -- figured I'd have another look at it this morning. Still confused.

At what point in the construction/destruction cycle will there be an active B-blocker that has two working construction-arm lanes to the northeast of it? Seems as if each B-blocker would have to have been removed already, to activate each construction arm, so B-blocker won't be there when A' and B' are active.

The A-blocker (eater and block) will be left behind, but with luck it will be possible to shoot down the eater using 180-degree elbow operations acting on the block. What am I missing here?

Removing the A-blocker will clean up the only difference between Circuit A and Circuit B, provided that some variant of this H-to-2G endcap is used for both circuits:

x = 42, y = 48, rule = LifeHistory
29.B$28.3B$27.5B$26.6B8.2A$25.6B9.A$24.9B4.BA.A$23.13B.B2A$22.16B$21.
17B$18.B.17B$17.2A19B$17.2AB.19B$18.B4.19B$23.16BD2B$23.9B.4BDBD2B$
24.7B2.4B3D2B$24.7B2.4BD4B$24.6B4.8B$24.7B$24.6B$23.7B$24.5B$23.6B$
22.9B$21.7B.2A$4.2B14.4B5.A$3.4B12.4B7.3A$4.4B10.4B10.A$5.4B8.4B$6.4B
6.4B$7.4B4.4B$8.4B2.4B$9.8B$10.6B$11.4B$10.6B$9.8B$7.10B$6.11B$6.11B$
5.11B$4.7B$4.3B$2.4B$2.2A$3.A$3A$A!

Two eaters is slightly more expensive than a simple block, but it's probably worth it to keep the construction work down to a reasonable size, as you say.

EDIT: With this model, there's just one difference in the construction stage: a boat will be constructed next to the B-blocker site, but not next to the A-blocker site. (We can't allow the first glider into Circuit B to shoot down the A-blocker, even though that could easily be arranged -- that would produce disastrous inside-out recipes.)

I think the boat could be constructed last, so it's just a matter of leaving off the very end of one construction recipe. Or one more construction glider could be added to shoot down the boat, I suppose, but that doesn't seem necessary. By the time the self-destruct stage comes along, there will be no boat in either circuit.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 3rd, 2015, 12:01 pm

dvgrn wrote:I was a little confused by this part last night -- figured I'd have another look at it this morning. Still confused.

At what point in the construction/destruction cycle will there be an active B-blocker that has two working construction-arm lanes to the northeast of it?


In the pattern below the green UC is responsible for construction all of the white and yellow still lifes to the NE and the single elbow block shown in red for convenience:

x = 487, y = 657, rule = LifeHistory
485.A$484.A$484.3A24$465.A$464.A$464.3A13$450.A$449.A$449.3A18$440.A$
439.A$439.3A24$426.A$425.A$425.3A183$232.4B6.4B$231.4B6.4B$230.4B.2D
3.4B$229.4B2.2D2.4B$228.4B6.4B$227.4B6.4B$226.4B6.4B$225.4B6.4B$224.
4B6.4B$223.4B6.4B$222.4B6.4B$221.4B6.4B$220.4B6.4B$219.4B6.4B$218.4B
6.4B$217.4B6.4B$216.BC2B6.4B$215.BCBC6.4B$214.2B2C6.B2CB$213.4B6.2BCB
C$212.4B6.4BC$211.4B6.4B$210.4B6.4B$209.4B6.4B$208.4B6.4B$207.4B6.4B$
206.4B6.4B$205.4B6.4B$204.4B6.4B$203.4B6.4B$202.4B6.4B$201.4B6.4B$
200.4B6.4B$199.4B7.4B$198.4B7.5B$197.4B5.9B$196.4B6.9B$195.4B7.9B$
194.4B6.B.10B$193.4B6.14B$192.4B6.15B8.2E$191.4B6.15B9.E$190.4B6.4B2.
12B4.BE.E$189.4B6.4B3.15B.B2E13.2E$188.4B6.4B4.17B14.B2EB$187.4B6.4B
5.17B15.2B$186.4B6.4B3.B.17B17.2B3.B$177.B7.4B6.4B3.2C19B15.4B.B2E$
176.6B2.4B6.4B4.2CB.19B11.8B2E$176.3BC2B.4B6.4B5.2B4.20B2.2B2.6B2EB.B
$176.2BCBC5B6.4B5.B6.32B2E$176.2BCBC4B6.4B5.B7.9B.24B$177.2BC5B5.4B5.
B9.7B2.28B$177.9B3.4B5.B10.7B2.28B$178.9B.4B5.B11.6B4.26B2E$176.4B2C
9B5.B12.7B10.4B.14B2E$175.5BCBC7B5.B13.6B12.4B2.11B.B$174.8BC6B5.B13.
7B13.4B2.10B$174.8B2C4B5.B15.6B14.14B$173.6B3.6B4.B17.5B15.14B$172.4B
5.8B2.B18.6B14.13B$171.4B6.10B21.4B14.13B$170.4B6.11B20.B2E2B14.8B.2B
$169.4B6.5B2C4B22.2E16.8B$168.4B6.5BC2BCB.B40.9B$167.4B6.7B2C2B42.10B
$166.4B6.11B42.7B.4B$165.4B6.11B42.8B2.4B$164.4B6.12B41.8B4.4B$163.4B
6.4B3.6B41.8B5.4B$162.4B6.4B5.3B41.2EB2.6B5.4B$161.4B6.4B5.4B40.E.EB.
7B6.4B$160.4B6.4B5.B2.B41.E4.6B8.4B$159.4B6.4B5.B44.2E4.6B9.4B$158.4B
6.4B5.B51.6B10.4B$157.4B6.4B5.B51.8B10.4B$156.4B6.4B5.B53.8B10.4B$
155.4B6.4B5.B53.9B11.4B$154.4B6.4B5.B54.9B12.4B$153.4B6.4B5.B55.10B
12.4B$152.4B6.4B5.B56.5B2E3B13.4B$151.4B6.4B5.B57.5B2E4B3.2E8.4B$150.
4B6.4B5.B58.11B3.E10.4B$149.4B6.4B5.B59.12BE.E11.4B$148.4B6.4B5.B62.
8B2.2E13.4B$147.4B6.4B5.B56.2E5.7B19.4B$146.4B6.4B5.B55.2B2EB2.7B22.
4B$145.4B6.4B5.B48.2E6.4B2.9B22.4B$144.4B6.4B5.B50.E5.6B.11B.2B18.4B$
143.4B6.4B5.B51.E.EB.22B19.4B$142.4B6.4B5.B53.2EB.23B19.4B$141.4B6.4B
5.B56.25B20.4B$140.4B6.4B5.B57.28B18.4B$139.5B5.4B5.B58.28B19.4B$138.
6B4.4B5.B60.29B18.4B$136.9B2.4B5.B62.28B19.4B$136.9B.4B5.B64.28B19.4B
$135.14B5.B67.26B20.4B$134.14B5.B67.27B21.4B$133.14B5.B66.2EB.23B24.
4B$132.15B4.B3.2E61.E.EB.20B28.4B$131.15B4.B4.E62.E4.16B33.4B$130.4B
2.12B.B2.BE.E61.2E3.18B33.4B$129.4B3.15B.B2E13.2E51.20B33.4B$128.4B4.
17B14.B2EB51.20B33.4B$127.4B5.17B15.2B55.18B33.4B$121.B4.4B3.B.17B17.
2B3.B51.16B35.4B$120.3B2.4B3.2C19B15.4B.B2E52.13B37.4B$120.8B4.2C21B
11.8B2E52.3B.2B2E5B38.4B$119.8B6.4B.20B2.2B2.6B2EB.B51.4B2.2B2E3B41.
4B$115.B3.7B6.4B2.32B2E54.2E3.8B42.4B$115.11B5.4B3.9B.24B55.E4.8B42.
4B$113.15B2.4B5.7B2.28B48.3E5.8B43.4B$112.12B2.7B5.8B2.28B48.E8.7B44.
4B$113.11B2.6B5.B.6B4.26B2E56.7B45.4B$113.18B5.B2.7B10.4B.14B2E48.E7.
6B47.4B$113.17B5.B3.6B12.4B2.11B.B48.E.E6.6B48.4B$112.17B5.B3.7B13.4B
2.10B50.E.E6.5B50.4B$110.18B5.B5.6B14.14B49.3E.2E4.6B51.4B$109.18B5.B
7.5B15.14B47.E4.B6.6B51.4B$109.18B4.B8.6B14.13B49.3EB2EB3.7B52.4B$
107.19B4.B11.4B14.13B51.E.2EB.8B54.4B$105.21B3.B11.B2E2B14.8B.2B57.
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First of all the yellow still lifes will be constructed with 90 degree slow salvo operations (although maybe the two closest eaters will require some help from 180 degree gliders). Then the elbow block will be duplicated to make the block in red. Then the pair of boats will be made. Then the B-blocker and then the A-blocker.

In four traversals time the first glider that enters the A' circuit will open the B-blocker. Straight after this the the red elbow block can be used to fire 180 degree gliders to clean up the rest of the blocker junk.

Now by some method or other the yellow UC destroys the green UC and we should be back to where we started.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 3rd, 2015, 7:34 pm

chris_c wrote:First of all the yellow still lifes will be constructed with 90 degree slow salvo operations (although maybe the two closest eaters will require some help from 180 degree gliders). Then the elbow block will be duplicated to make the block in red. Then the pair of boats will be made. Then the B-blocker and then the A-blocker.

Okay, I'm un-confused now. Thanks. Yes, that saves 3sL in the circuitry and probably makes the self-destruct phase a little easier, too. Let's make that the new Official Plan.

I've been looking at exact-timing self-destruct signals and circuitry a little bit more. They're really easy to put together, with the help of simsim314's awesome 2sL splitter collection. As usual, the only problem is deciding to be satisfied with any particular solution, given the ridiculous size of the search space -- it's always clear that there's a better solution just around the corner.

The following might be a fairly decent template to paste as a puzzle into the Seeds of Destruction Game. Drop one glider fairly far back to the southeast, so that the destruction won't interact with the Last B-Glider signal (shown just entering the syringe).

The object is to add a combination of bait objects and splitters, so that a copy of the input glider comes out in the right spacetime location, and everything else gets cleaned up, and the Last B-Glider's signal can escape to the southeast.

It's easy to do this using lots of splitters and turners -- but some people may be able to do it with very few splitters, or none at all, just a few very well-placed bait objects.

I've put in an arbitrary boundary along the northwest edge. All other things being equal, it would probably be better to stay a few cells away from that boundary.

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11.4B19.B$12.B52.8B2.2A13.4B19.B$13.B44.2A5.7B19.4B19.B$14.B41.2B2AB
2.7B22.4B19.B$15.B32.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B19.B$16.B32.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B19.B
$17.B31.A.AB.22B19.4B19.B$18.B31.2AB.23B19.4B19.B$19.B32.25B20.4B19.B
$20.B31.28B18.4B19.B$21.B30.28B19.4B19.B$22.B30.29B18.4B19.B$23.B30.
28B19.4B19.B$24.B30.28B19.4B19.B$25.B31.26B20.4B19.B$26.B29.27B21.4B
19.B$27.B26.2AB.23B24.4B19.B$28.B24.A.AB.20B28.4B19.B$29.B23.A4.16B
33.4B19.B$30.B21.2A3.18B33.4B19.B$31.B24.20B33.4B19.B$32.B24.20B33.4B
19.B$33.B26.18B33.4B19.B$34.B26.16B35.4B19.B$35.B27.13B37.4B19.B$36.B
26.3B.2B2A5B38.4B19.B$37.B23.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B19.B$38.B22.2A3.8B42.4B
19.B$38.B23.A4.8B42.4B19.B$38.B20.3A5.8B43.4B19.B$38.B20.A8.7B44.4B
19.B$38.B29.7B45.4B19.B$38.B21.A7.6B47.4B19.B$38.B20.A.A6.6B48.4B19.B
$38.B20.A.A6.5B50.4B19.B$38.B18.3A.2A4.6B51.4B19.B$38.B17.A4.B6.6B51.
4B19.B$38.B18.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B19.B$38.B20.A.2AB.8B54.4B19.B$38.B24.10B
55.4B19.B$38.B24.6B2A3B55.4B19.B$38.B24.6B2A2B5.2A50.4B19.B$38.B24.
10B5.A52.4B$38.B23.11B2.BA.A53.4B$38.B23.7B3A2B.B2A55.4B$38.B22.8BA6B
58.4B$38.B21.10BA5B59.4B$38.B18.2B.16B60.4B$38.B17.2A18B61.4B$38.B17.
2AB.17B61.4B$38.B18.B.4B.8B2.4B61.4B$38.B25.7B4.4B61.3B$38.B26.6B5.4B
$38.B28.4B6.4B$38.B30.3BA5.4B$38.B31.BA.A5.4B$38.B32.A.A6.4B$39.B32.A
8.4B$40.B32.3A6.4B$41.B33.A7.4B$42.B41.4B$43.B41.4B$44.B41.4B$45.B41.
4B$46.B41.4B$47.B41.4B$48.B41.4B$49.B41.4B$50.B41.4B$51.B41.4B$52.B
41.4B$53.B41.4B$54.B41.4B$55.B41.4B$56.B41.4B$57.B41.4B$58.B41.4B$59.
B41.4B$60.B41.4B$61.B41.4B$62.B41.4B$63.B41.4B$64.B$65.B$66.B$67.B$
68.B$69.B$70.B$71.B$72.B$73.B$74.B$75.B$76.B$77.B$78.B$79.B$80.B$81.B
$82.B$83.B$84.B$85.B$86.B$87.B$88.B$89.B$90.B$91.B$92.B$93.B!

Just in case anyone new wants to try their hand, here's a sample that I put together yesterday. It's out of date now (B-blocker deletion mechanism is wrong) but should give some ideas about how self-destruct circuits might be added:

x = 353, y = 358, rule = LifeHistory
64.B$63.B.B$62.B3.B$61.B5.B$60.B7.B$59.B9.B$58.B11.B$57.B13.B$56.B15.
B$55.B17.B$54.B19.B$53.B21.B$52.B23.B$51.B11.2A12.B$50.B12.2A13.B$49.
B29.B$48.B31.B$47.B33.B$46.B35.B$45.B37.B$44.B39.B6.A$43.B41.B4.A.A$
42.B43.B3.2A$41.B27.2A16.B$40.3B26.2A17.B$39.5B45.B$38.6B8.2A36.B$37.
6B9.A37.B$36.9B4.BA.A28.2A7.B$35.13B.B2A13.2A14.2A7.B$34.16B14.B2AB
22.B$33.17B15.2B23.B$30.B.17B17.2B3.B18.B$29.2A19B15.4B.B2A17.B$29.2A
B.19B11.8B2A17.B$29.2B4.20B2.2B2.6B2AB.B18.B$28.B6.32B2A21.B$27.B7.9B
.24B21.B$26.B9.7B2.28B17.B$25.B10.7B2.28B17.B$24.B11.6B4.26B2A16.B$
23.B12.7B10.4B.14B2A16.B$22.B13.6B12.4B2.11B.B17.B$21.B13.7B13.4B2.
10B19.B$20.B15.5B15.14B20.B$19.B15.6B16.14B19.B$18.B15.9B14.13B20.B$
17.B15.7B.2A14.13B20.B$16.2B14.4B5.A15.8B.2B22.B$15.4B12.4B7.3A12.8B
25.B$14.B.4B10.4B10.A12.9B24.B$13.2B2.4B8.4B24.10B23.B$12.2B4.4B6.4B
24.7B.4B22.B$11.2B6.4B4.4B24.8B2.4B21.B$10.3B7.4B2.4B24.8B4.4B20.B$9.
4B8.8B25.8B5.4B19.B$8.3B11.6B24.2AB2.6B5.4B19.B$7.B15.4B24.A.AB.7B6.
4B19.B$6.B15.6B23.A4.6B8.4B19.B$5.B15.8B21.2A4.6B9.4B19.B$4.B14.10B
27.6B10.4B19.B$3.B14.11B26.8B10.4B19.B$2.B15.11B27.8B10.4B19.B$.B15.
11B27.9B11.4B19.B$B15.7B32.9B12.4B19.B$16.3B36.10B12.4B19.B$14.4B37.
5B2A3B13.4B19.B$14.2A39.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B19.B$15.A39.11B3.A10.4B19.B$12.
3A40.12BA.A11.4B19.B$12.A44.8B2.2A13.4B19.B$50.2A5.7B19.4B19.B$48.2B
2AB2.7B22.4B19.B$40.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B19.B$41.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B19.B$41.A
.AB.22B19.4B19.B$42.2AB.23B19.4B19.B$35.2A7.25B20.4B19.B$35.2A7.28B
18.4B19.B$44.28B19.4B19.B$45.29B18.4B19.B$46.28B19.4B19.B$47.28B19.4B
19.B$49.26B20.4B19.B$48.27B21.4B19.B$46.2AB.23B24.4B19.B$45.A.AB.20B
28.4B19.B$45.A4.16B33.4B19.B$44.2A3.18B33.4B19.B$48.20B33.4B19.B$49.
20B33.4B19.B$52.18B33.4B19.B$53.16B35.4B19.B$55.13B37.4B19.B$55.3B.2B
2A5B38.4B19.B$53.4B2.2B2A3B41.4B19.B$53.2A3.8B42.4B19.B$54.A4.8B42.4B
19.B$51.3A5.8B43.4B19.B$51.A8.7B44.4B19.B$60.7B45.4B19.B$37.2A13.A7.
6B47.4B19.B$37.A.A11.A.A6.6B48.4B19.B$38.A12.A.A6.5B50.4B19.B$49.3A.
2A4.6B51.4B19.B$48.A4.B6.6B51.4B19.B$49.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B19.B$51.A.2AB.
8B54.4B19.B$55.10B55.4B19.B$55.6B2A3B55.4B19.B$55.6B2A2B5.2A50.4B19.B
$55.10B5.A52.4B$54.11B2.BA.A53.4B$54.7B3E2B.B2A55.4B$44.2A7.8BE6B58.
4B$44.2A6.10BE5B59.4B$49.2B.16B60.4B$48.2A18B61.4B$48.2AB.17B17.2A42.
4B$49.B.4B.8B2.4B16.2A43.4B$56.7B4.4B61.4B$57.6B5.4B$59.4B6.4B$61.3BA
5.4B$62.BA.A5.4B$63.A.A6.4B$64.A8.4B$65.3A6.4B$67.A7.4B$76.4B$77.4B$
78.4B$79.4B$80.4B$81.4B$82.4B$83.4B$84.4B$85.4B$86.4B$87.4B$88.4B$89.
4B$90.4B$91.4B$92.4B$93.4B$94.4B$95.4B$96.4B$97.4B4$104.3A$104.A$105.
A$182.3A$182.A$183.A70$168.3A$168.A$169.A29$242.3A$242.A$243.A33$287.
3A$287.A$288.A58$350.3A$350.A$351.A!

My idea was to find a small number of gliders from the southeast, mixed with a minimal number of additional seeds-of-destruction still lifes to help out with the cleanup. Then I'd string together splitters and turners from simsim314's collection, to produce those gliders starting from a single input glider from the southwest. One adjustable branch would produce an output glider in the exact same location as the input glider, relative to the Last B-Glider (yellow) that went through the circuit just before it was destroyed.

One reason why this solution was no good is that the boat turner on the north edge was over the line, and would have caused interference between the old versions of A and B.

Maybe it could have been adjusted to be workable, but really there's plenty of space inside the lines. Might as well try to find a really nice compact self-destruct method.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 4th, 2015, 9:05 am

Here's a nicer self-destruct example. As usual, there are subtle signs of impatience toward the end of the cleanup. But I think it makes a good Optimization Game target to beat, anyway -- or if no one feels like taking the time to improve it, we could perfectly well compile a construction recipe for it just as it stands.

x = 153, y = 165, rule = LifeHistory
21.4B$20.4B$19.4B$18.4B$17.4B$16.4B$15.4B$14.4B$13.4B$12.4B$11.4B$10.
4B$9.4B$8.4B$8.4B$7.5B$4.9B$4.9B$4.9B$4.10B$3.12B$2.13B8.2A$3.11B9.A$
4.12B4.BA.A$4.15B.B2A7.2A4.2A$4.17B9.2A3.B2AB$4.17B15.2B$.B.17B17.2B
3.B$2A19B15.4B.B2A$2AB.19B11.8B2A$.B4.20B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$6.32B2A$6.9B.
24B$7.7B2.28B$7.7B2.28B$7.6B4.26B2A$7.7B10.4B.14B2A$7.6B12.4B2.11B.B$
6.7B13.4B2.10B$7.6B5.2A7.14B$8.5B5.A.A7.14B$8.6B5.A8.13B$10.4B14.13B$
9.B2A2B14.8B.2B$10.2A16.8B$6.A21.9B$5.A.A20.10B$5.A.A19.7B.4B$6.A19.
8B2.4B$25.8B4.4B$25.8B5.4B$23.2AB2.6B5.4B$22.A.AB.7B6.4B$22.A4.6B8.4B
$21.2A4.6B9.4B$5.A21.6B10.4B$4.A.A19.8B5.A4.4B$5.A.A19.8B3.A.A4.4B$6.
2A18.9B3.2A6.4B$26.9B12.4B$26.10B12.4B$26.5B2A3B13.4B17.2A$26.5B2A4B
3.2A8.4B16.2A$26.11B3.A10.4B$26.12BA.A11.4B$28.8B2.2A13.4B$21.2A5.7B
19.4B$19.2B2AB2.7B10.2A10.4B10.2A$11.2A6.4B2.9B9.2A11.4B9.2A$12.A5.6B
.11B.2B18.4B$12.A.AB.22B19.4B$2.A10.2AB.23B19.4B$2.3A10.25B20.4B$5.A
9.28B18.4B$4.2A3.2A4.28B19.4B9.2A$9.2A5.29B18.4B8.2A$17.28B19.4B$18.
28B19.4B$20.26B20.4B$19.27B21.4B$17.2AB.23B24.4B$8.A7.A.AB.20B28.4B9.
2A$7.A.A6.A4.16B33.4B8.A.A$7.A.A5.2A3.18B11.2A20.4B8.A$8.A10.20B9.A.A
21.4B$20.20B9.A23.4B$23.18B33.4B$24.16B35.4B$26.13B37.4B$26.3B.2B2A5B
38.4B$13.2A9.4B2.2B2A3B36.2A3.4B$13.2A9.2A3.8B35.A.A4.4B$25.A4.8B33.A
.A6.4B$22.3A5.8B34.A8.4B$22.A8.7B44.4B$31.7B45.4B$23.A7.6B47.4B$22.A.
A6.6B35.2A11.4B$22.A.A6.5B36.A.A11.4B$20.3A.2A4.6B37.A13.4B$19.A4.B6.
6B51.4B$20.3AB2AB3.7B52.4B$22.A.2AB.8B54.4B$26.10B34.2A19.4B$26.6B2A
3B13.2A18.A.A19.4B.D$26.6B2A2B5.2A7.A.A18.A21.4B.D$18.A7.10B5.A9.A42.
2B3D$17.A.A5.11B2.BA.A53.4B$17.A.A5.7B3C2B.B2A55.4B$18.A5.8BC6B58.4B$
23.10BC5B59.4B$20.2B.16B60.4B$19.2A17B62.4B$19.2AB.13B22.2A41.4B$20.B
.4B.8B22.A.A42.4B$27.7B24.A44.4B$28.6B70.4B$30.4B71.4B$32.3BA70.4B$
33.BA.A70.4B$25.2A7.A.A71.4B$25.2A8.A73.4B$36.3A71.4B$38.A72.4B$112.
4B$113.4B$114.4B$115.4B$116.4B$117.4B$118.4B$38.2A79.4B$38.2A80.4B$
121.4B$122.4B$123.4B$124.4B$125.4B$126.4B$127.4B$128.4B$129.4B$130.4B
$131.4B$132.4B$133.4B$134.4B$135.4B$136.4B$137.4B$138.4B$139.4B$140.
4B$141.4B$142.4B$143.4B$144.4B$145.4B$146.4B$147.4B$148.4B$149.3BD$
89.2C59.DBD$89.CBC59.2D$89.CB!

It's 43 still lifes in all, including the eater2 and hive-with-tail. 42 would be more auspicious, and that's probably pretty easy to arrange -- just find a 2sL turner that has the same mod-8 timing as the final three-block one, and is also an inside-edge edge shooter.

I'm sure the whole circuit-plus-self-destruct can be done in less than 40sL, one way or another -- but luckily it's somebody else's turn now.

Here's the current candidate in a test pattern, showing that there's plenty of room to run these self-destruct circuits next to each other:

x = 849, y = 784, rule = LifeHistory
353.2A$353.A$351.A.A$351.2A7.2A4.2A$360.2A4.2A3$330.2A40.2A$330.2A40.
2A$307.C60.2A$306.C.C59.2A$306.C.C$307.C2$373.2A$308.2C63.2A$308.C.C$
310.C$310.2C36.2A$348.A.A$349.A2$340.2A$312.2C26.2A$311.C2.C21.A$312.
2C21.A.A$335.A.A$336.A3$353.2A$352.A.A$352.A$351.2A$335.A$334.A.A32.A
$335.A.A30.A.A$336.2A30.2A3$361.2A37.2A$361.2A7.2A28.2A$370.A$368.A.A
$368.2A$351.2A$351.2A20.2A24.2A$341.2A30.2A24.2A$342.A$342.A.A$332.A
10.2A$332.3A$335.A$334.2A3.2A64.2A$339.2A64.2A5$347.2A$283.2A53.A7.A.
A63.2A$283.A53.A.A6.A65.A.A$281.A.A53.A.A5.2A32.2A32.A$281.2A7.2A4.2A
40.A39.A.A$290.2A4.2A81.A3$260.2A40.2A$260.2A40.2A58.2A$298.2A43.2A
17.2A39.2A$298.2A43.2A9.2A46.A.A$355.A45.A.A$352.3A47.A$352.A$303.2A$
303.2A48.A$352.A.A47.2A$352.A.A47.A.A$278.2A70.3A.2A47.A$278.A.A68.A$
279.A70.3A.2A$352.A.2A$270.2A128.2A$270.2A90.2A16.2A18.A.A$266.A95.2A
7.2A7.A.A18.A$265.A.A80.A22.A9.A$245.E19.A.A79.A.A19.A.A$243.3E20.A
80.A.A19.2A$242.E105.A$223.2E17.2E$223.2E58.2A$282.A.A64.2A$282.A66.
2A37.2A$281.2A104.A.A$265.A122.A$264.A.A32.A$265.A.A30.A.A$266.2A30.
2A65.A$364.A.A$355.2A7.A.A$291.2A37.2A23.2A8.A$291.2A7.2A28.2A34.3A$
300.A67.A$298.A.A$298.2A$281.2A$281.2A20.2A24.2A$271.2A30.2A24.2A$
272.A$272.A.A$262.A10.2A93.2A$262.3A103.2A$265.A$264.2A3.2A64.2A$269.
2A64.2A5$277.2A$141.7D120.A7.A.A63.2A$142.D5.D118.A.A6.A65.A.A$142.D
6.D117.A.A5.2A32.2A32.A$142.D7.D117.A39.A.A$142.D7.D158.A$142.D7.D$
142.D7.D$142.D7.D4.D4.D10.D$142.D7.D4.D4.D10.D120.2A$142.D6.D5.D4.D2.
2D3.2D.D2.D2.2D2.D.2D88.2A17.2A39.2A$142.7D6.3D2.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D2.D.
2D40.2A48.2A9.2A46.A.A$142.D6.D5.D2.D.D.D2.D.D3.2D3.4D.D41.A61.A45.A.
A$142.D7.D4.D2.D.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D4.D39.A.A58.3A47.A$142.D7.D5.2D2.D2.
2D3.2D.D2.D2.3D.D39.2A7.2A4.2A44.A$142.D7.D79.2A4.2A$142.D7.D132.A$
142.D7.D131.A.A47.2A$142.D6.D50.2A40.2A38.A.A47.A.A$142.D5.D51.2A40.
2A36.3A.2A47.A$141.7D29.C60.2A39.A$176.C.C59.2A40.3A.2A$176.C.C103.A.
2A$177.C152.2A$292.2A16.2A18.A.A$243.2A47.2A7.2A7.A.A18.A$178.2C63.2A
33.A22.A9.A$178.C.C96.A.A19.A.A$180.C96.A.A19.2A$180.2C36.2A58.A$218.
A.A$219.A$279.2A$210.2A67.2A37.2A$182.2C26.2A105.A.A$181.C2.C21.A111.
A$182.2C21.A.A$205.A.A$206.A88.A$294.A.A$285.2A7.A.A$223.2A60.2A8.A$
222.A.A71.3A$222.A75.A$221.2A$205.A$204.A.A32.A$205.A.A30.A.A$206.2A
30.2A3$231.2A37.2A26.2A$231.2A7.2A28.2A26.2A$240.A$238.A.A$238.2A$
221.2A$221.2A20.2A24.2A$211.2A30.2A24.2A$212.A$212.A.A$202.A10.2A$
202.3A$205.A$204.2A3.2A64.2A$209.2A64.2A5$217.2A$153.2A53.A7.A.A63.2A
$73.2D78.A53.A.A6.A65.A.A$72.D2.D75.A.A53.A.A5.2A32.2A32.A$72.D2.D75.
2A7.2A4.2A40.A39.A.A$71.D4.D83.2A4.2A81.A$71.D4.D$70.D6.D$70.D6.D52.
2A40.2A$69.D8.D51.2A40.2A58.2A$69.D8.D4.D4.D10.D68.2A43.2A17.2A39.2A$
69.D8.D4.D4.D10.D68.2A43.2A9.2A46.A.A$69.10D4.D4.D2.2D3.2D.D2.D2.2D2.
D.2D112.A45.A.A$69.D8.D4.3D2.D.D2.D.D3.D.D2.D2.D.2D111.3A47.A$69.D8.D
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7.2A7.A.A18.A$135.A.A80.A22.A9.A$115.E19.A.A79.A.A19.A.A$113.3E20.A
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37.2A$151.2A104.A.A$135.A122.A$134.A.A32.A$135.A.A30.A.A$136.2A30.2A
65.A$234.A.A$225.2A7.A.A$161.2A37.2A23.2A8.A$161.2A7.2A28.2A34.3A$
170.A67.A$168.A.A$168.2A$151.2A$151.2A20.2A24.2A$141.2A30.2A24.2A$
142.A$142.A.A$132.A10.2A93.2A$132.3A103.2A$135.A$134.2A3.2A64.2A$139.
2A64.2A5$147.2A$138.A7.A.A63.2A$137.A.A6.A65.A.A$137.A.A5.2A32.2A32.A
$138.A39.A.A$179.A4$162.2A$143.2A17.2A39.2A$93.2A48.2A9.2A46.A.A$93.A
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A$2.3A103.2A677.2A$5.A$4.2A3.2A64.2A$9.2A64.2A3$794.2A$794.2A$17.2A
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33.C767.2A30.2A$801.2A30.2A5.2A$19.2A743.A75.2A$19.2A37.2A702.3A42.A$
57.A.A701.A43.3A4.A$58.A678.2A22.2A41.A6.A.A24.2A$737.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A
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25.2A8.A728.2A13.2A$36.3A725.2A13.2A26.2A$38.A768.2A35.2A$844.2A4$
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3A$38.2A727.2A.3A2.2A25.2A11.3A27.A$768.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$756.2A10.A.
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727.A50.2A18.2A$726.A.A49.2A18.A$727.2A70.3A$801.A23.2A$794.2A29.2A$
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A.A7.2A$711.A6.2A75.A.A15.A$710.A.A4.A.A77.A$705.A5.2A3.A.A78.2A$704.
A.A10.A29.2A91.2A$705.2A34.2A4.2A91.2A$741.2A7$89.2C$89.C.C$89.C$695.
2A$694.A.A$695.A3$824.C$823.C.C$704.A118.C.C$703.A.A118.C5.C$704.2A
19.2A103.3C$724.A.A106.C$725.A106.2C3.2C$836.C2.C$837.2C2$741.2A30.2A
$741.2A30.2A5.2A$704.A75.2A$702.3A42.A$701.A43.3A4.A$677.2A22.2A41.A
6.A.A24.2A$677.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A25.2A$687.A96.2A$687.A.2A93.2A$688.A2.A
$689.2A$704.2A13.2A$704.2A13.2A26.2A$747.2A35.2A$784.2A4$688.2A$688.
2A17.2A.A6.2A$657.A49.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A$656.A.A54.A2.A41.A27.3A$
657.2A48.2A.3A2.2A25.2A11.3A27.A$708.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$696.2A10.A.A
58.A$696.2A3.2A6.A58.A.A$700.A2.A24.2A39.2A$701.2A26.A$664.2A60.3A$
664.2A60.A$641.A6.2A68.2A18.2A$640.A.A4.A.A68.2A18.A$635.A5.2A3.A.A
90.3A$634.A.A10.A29.2A62.A23.2A$635.2A34.2A4.2A55.2A29.2A$671.2A53.2A
6.2A$725.A2.A$726.2A23.2A9.2A$751.A.A7.A2.A$735.2A15.A.A7.2A$735.A.A
15.A$737.A$737.2A$780.2A$780.2A$625.2A$624.A.A$625.A5$634.A$633.A.A$
634.2A19.2A$654.A.A$655.A3$761.2E$671.2A30.2A56.E$671.2A30.2A5.2A47.E
.E$634.A75.2A47.2E$632.3A42.A$631.A43.3A4.A$607.2A22.2A41.A6.A.A24.2A
$607.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A25.2A$617.A96.2A$617.A.2A93.2A$618.A2.A$619.2A$
634.2A13.2A$634.2A13.2A26.2A$677.2A35.2A$714.2A4$618.2A$618.2A17.2A.A
6.2A$637.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A39.2E$643.A2.A41.A27.3A39.2E$637.2A.3A2.
2A25.2A11.3A27.A$638.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$626.2A10.A.A58.A$626.2A3.2A6.A
58.A.A$630.A2.A24.2A39.2A$631.2A26.A$656.3A$656.A$597.A50.2A18.2A$
596.A.A49.2A18.A$597.2A70.3A$671.A23.2A$664.2A29.2A$656.2A6.2A$655.A
2.A$656.2A23.2A9.2A$604.2A75.A.A7.A2.A$604.2A59.2A15.A.A7.2A$581.A6.
2A75.A.A15.A$580.A.A4.A.A77.A$575.A5.2A3.A.A78.2A$574.A.A10.A29.2A91.
2A$575.2A34.2A4.2A91.2A$611.2A10$565.2A$564.A.A$565.A3$694.C$693.C.C$
574.A118.C.C$573.A.A118.C5.C$574.2A19.2A103.3C$594.A.A106.C$595.A106.
2C3.2C$706.C2.C$707.2C2$611.2A30.2A$611.2A30.2A5.2A$574.A75.2A$572.3A
42.A$571.A43.3A4.A$547.2A22.2A41.A6.A.A24.2A$547.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A25.2A
$557.A96.2A$557.A.2A93.2A$558.A2.A$559.2A$574.2A13.2A$574.2A13.2A26.
2A$617.2A35.2A$654.2A4$558.2A$558.2A17.2A.A6.2A$527.A49.2A.3A3.A.A38.
2A29.A$526.A.A54.A2.A41.A27.3A$527.2A48.2A.3A2.2A25.2A11.3A27.A$578.A
.A31.2A11.A29.2A$566.2A10.A.A58.A$566.2A3.2A6.A58.A.A$570.A2.A24.2A
39.2A$571.2A26.A$534.2A60.3A$534.2A60.A$511.A6.2A68.2A18.2A$510.A.A4.
A.A68.2A18.A$505.A5.2A3.A.A90.3A$504.A.A10.A29.2A62.A23.2A$505.2A34.
2A4.2A55.2A29.2A$541.2A53.2A6.2A$595.A2.A$596.2A23.2A9.2A$621.A.A7.A
2.A$605.2A15.A.A7.2A$605.A.A15.A$607.A$607.2A$650.2A$650.2A$495.2A$
494.A.A$495.A5$504.A$503.A.A$504.2A19.2A$524.A.A$525.A3$631.2E$541.2A
30.2A56.E$541.2A30.2A5.2A47.E.E$504.A75.2A47.2E$502.3A42.A$501.A43.3A
4.A$477.2A22.2A41.A6.A.A24.2A$477.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A25.2A$487.A96.2A$
487.A.2A93.2A$488.A2.A$489.2A$504.2A13.2A$504.2A13.2A26.2A$547.2A35.
2A$584.2A4$488.2A$488.2A17.2A.A6.2A$507.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A39.2E$513.
A2.A41.A27.3A39.2E$507.2A.3A2.2A25.2A11.3A27.A$508.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$
496.2A10.A.A58.A$496.2A3.2A6.A58.A.A$500.A2.A24.2A39.2A$501.2A26.A$
526.3A$526.A$467.A50.2A18.2A$466.A.A49.2A18.A$467.2A70.3A$541.A23.2A$
534.2A29.2A$526.2A6.2A$525.A2.A$526.2A23.2A9.2A$474.2A75.A.A7.A2.A$
474.2A59.2A15.A.A7.2A$451.A6.2A75.A.A15.A$450.A.A4.A.A77.A$445.A5.2A
3.A.A78.2A$444.A.A10.A29.2A91.2A$445.2A34.2A4.2A91.2A$481.2A10$435.2A
$434.A.A$435.A3$564.C$563.C.C$444.A118.C.C$443.A.A118.C5.C$444.2A19.
2A103.3C$464.A.A106.C$465.A106.2C3.2C$576.C2.C$577.2C2$481.2A30.2A$
481.2A30.2A5.2A$444.A75.2A$442.3A42.A$441.A43.3A4.A$417.2A22.2A41.A6.
A.A24.2A$417.2A7.2A56.2A5.2A25.2A$427.A96.2A$427.A.2A93.2A$428.A2.A$
429.2A$444.2A13.2A$444.2A13.2A26.2A$487.2A35.2A$524.2A4$428.2A$428.2A
17.2A.A6.2A$447.2A.3A3.A.A38.2A29.A$453.A2.A41.A27.3A$447.2A.3A2.2A
25.2A11.3A27.A$448.A.A31.2A11.A29.2A$436.2A10.A.A58.A$436.2A3.2A6.A
58.A.A$440.A2.A24.2A39.2A$441.2A26.A$466.3A$466.A$458.2A18.2A$458.2A
18.A$479.3A$481.A23.2A$474.2A29.2A$466.2A6.2A$465.A2.A$466.2A23.2A9.
2A$491.A.A7.A2.A$475.2A15.A.A7.2A$475.A.A15.A$477.A$477.2A$520.2A$
520.2A!

[tangent type="irrelevant"]It occurs to me that when the Demonoid is in working order, it will be trivial to compile a variant that moves the last two 90-degree reflectors one cell diagonally NW, producing a growing spaceship with the slowest known rate of growth by quite a few orders of magnitude.

Replacing the final three-block reflector with a boat could cut the growth rate in half again, and there's another factor of four available there. The growth rate can also be reduced by moving the halves of the Demonoid farther apart, so there's no lower speed limit.[/tangent]

Anyway, as it stands, the Demonoid will be a perfectly fine standard diagonal spaceship. Golly should be able to run it pretty fast, though the boustrophedonic glider streams will cause some slowdown as usual, especially since there will be four interleaved streams flowing in alternate directions most of the time.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 4th, 2015, 11:15 am

dvgrn wrote:Here's the current candidate in a test pattern, showing that there's plenty of room to run these self-destruct circuits next to each other.


Very cute. The only slightly annoying thing I see is that the block near the beehive-with-tail gets in the way of my suggested synthesis:

x = 118, y = 122, rule = LifeHistory
15.A$16.2A$15.2A15$2.A$A.A$.2A9$29.A$27.A.A$28.2A14$52.A$50.A.A$51.2A
14$77.A$75.A.A$76.2A33$98.D$97.D.D$97.D.D$98.D$99.3D9.A$101.D8.A.A$
110.A.A$111.A2$106.2A7.2A$105.A2.A5.A2.A$106.2A7.2A$101.2D$101.2D8.A$
110.A.A$110.A.A$111.A8$102.2A$101.A.A$102.A!


But it's only a block so there must be a workaround that isn't too expensive.

EDIT: yes, turn the junk pond into a block and then do two block pulls. Although this produces a different block than previously it should still have the same effect.

dvgrn wrote:Anyway, as it stands, the Demonoid will be a perfectly fine standard diagonal spaceship. Golly should be able to run it pretty fast, though the boustrophedonic glider streams will cause some slowdown as usual, especially since there will be four interleaved streams flowing in alternate directions most of the time.


Another ever so slightly annoying thing is that this particular Demonoid will always have a period that is 8 modulo 16 so no large power of two period is possible. e.g. move the two halves apart by 14 cells in your test pattern and the period is 2^13 + 8.

Looking a bit further ahead, do you have any estimates of what the minimum period of the spaceship might be? My crude guess is 2 * 43SL * 10 gliders/SL * 10 glider pairs/glider * 153 ticks per glider pair * 2 for being stupidly optimistic = 2.5 million ticks.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 4th, 2015, 3:29 pm

chris_c wrote:The only slightly annoying thing I see is that the block near the beehive-with-tail gets in the way of my suggested synthesis... EDIT: yes, turn the junk pond into a block and then do two block pulls. Although this produces a different block than previously it should still have the same effect.

Yup, that works. I've amended the two patterns in my post to put the block in the construction-compatible location. For the record, the almost-beginning of the Demonoid construction recipe now looks like this, after the initial hand push and boat construction, leaving a green elbow block for continuation:

x = 241, y = 204, rule = LifeHistory
.A$2.A$3A12$16.A$17.A$15.3A10$31.A$32.A$30.3A31$177.4B$176.4B$175.4B$
174.4B$173.4B$172.4B$171.4B$170.4B$169.4B$168.4B$167.4B$166.4B$165.4B
$164.4B$164.4B$163.5B$160.9B$160.9B$160.9B$160.10B$75.A83.12B$73.A.A
82.13B8.2D$74.2A83.11B9.D$108.A51.12B4.BD.D$109.2A49.15B.B2D7.2D4.2D$
108.2A50.17B9.2D3.B2DB$160.17B15.2B$157.B.17B17.2B3.B$156.2D19B15.4B.
B2D$156.2DB.19B11.8B2D$157.B4.20B2.2B2.6B2DB.B$162.32B2D$162.9B.24B$
163.7B2.28B$163.7B2.28B$163.6B4.26B2D$163.7B10.4B.14B2D$163.6B12.4B2.
11B.B$162.7B13.4B2.10B$163.6B5.2D7.14B$164.5B5.D.D7.14B$164.6B5.D8.
13B$166.4B14.13B$165.B2D2B14.8B.2B$166.2D16.8B$162.D21.9B$161.D.D20.
10B$161.D.D19.7B.4B$162.D19.8B2.4B$181.8B4.4B$181.8B5.4B$122.A56.2DB
2.6B5.4B$120.A.A55.D.DB.7B6.4B$121.2A55.D4.6B8.4B$177.2D4.6B9.4B$161.
D21.6B10.4B$160.D.D19.8B5.D4.4B$161.D.D19.8B3.D.D4.4B$162.2D18.9B3.2D
6.4B$182.9B12.4B$182.10B12.4B$182.5B2D3B13.4B17.2D$182.5B2D4B3.2D8.4B
16.2D$182.11B3.D10.4B$182.12BD.D11.4B$184.8B2.2D13.4B$177.2D5.7B19.4B
$145.A29.2B2DB2.7B10.2D10.4B10.2D$143.A.A21.2D6.4B2.9B9.2D11.4B9.2D$
144.2A22.D5.6B.11B.2B18.4B$168.D.DB.22B19.4B$158.D10.2DB.23B19.4B$
158.3D10.25B20.4B$161.D9.28B18.4B$160.2D3.2D4.28B19.4B9.2D$165.2D5.
29B18.4B8.2D$173.28B19.4B$174.28B19.4B$176.26B20.4B$175.27B21.4B$173.
2DB.23B24.4B$164.D7.D.DB.20B28.4B9.2D$163.D.D6.D4.16B33.4B8.D.D$163.D
.D4.A2D3.18B11.2D20.4B8.D$164.D3.A.A4.20B9.D.D21.4B$169.2A5.20B9.D23.
4B$179.18B33.4B$180.16B35.4B$182.13B37.4B$182.3B.2B2D5B38.4B$169.2D9.
4B2.2B2D3B36.2D3.4B$169.2D9.2D3.8B35.D.D4.4B$181.D4.8B33.D.D6.4B$178.
3D5.8B34.D8.4B$178.D8.7B44.3B$187.7B45.2B$179.D7.6B47.B$178.D.D6.6B
35.2D$178.D.D6.5B36.D.D$176.3D.2D4.6B37.D$175.D4.B6.6B$176.3DB2DB3.7B
$178.D.2DB.8B$182.10B34.2D$182.6B2D3B13.2D18.D.D$182.6B2D2B5.2D7.D.D
18.D$174.D7.10B5.D9.D$173.D.D5.11B2.BD.D$173.D.D5.12B.B2D$174.D5.15B$
179.16B$176.2B.16B$175.2D17B$175.2DB.13B22.2D$176.B.4B.8B22.D.D$183.
7B24.D$184.6B$186.4B$188.3BD$189.BD.D$181.2D7.D.D$181.2D8.D$192.3D9.A
$194.D8.A.A$203.A.A$204.A2$199.2A7.2A$198.A2.A5.A2.A$199.2A7.2A2$194.
2D8.A$194.2D7.A.A$203.A.A$204.A8$195.2A$194.A.A$195.A!

chris_c wrote:Another ever so slightly annoying thing is that this particular Demonoid will always have a period that is 8 modulo 16 so no large power of two period is possible. e.g. move the two halves apart by 14 cells in your test pattern and the period is 2^13 + 8.

Nothing we can do about that one, short of building a significantly larger reflector unit. We'd just need to add a couple of Fx77 conduits between the F166 and the R64, right? I suggest waiting to rebuild until a Spartan G-to-H shows up. I can be very patient...

chris_c wrote:Looking a bit further ahead, do you have any estimates of what the minimum period of the spaceship might be? My crude guess is 2 * 43SL * 10 gliders/SL * 10 glider pairs/glider * 153 ticks per glider pair * 2 for being stupidly optimistic = 2.5 million ticks.

I bet we can get it under two million ticks, and will be really impressed if it's under one million. I think both your 10 gliders/SL and 10 glider pairs/glider might be too high, and so is the 153*2 ticks per glider pair -- but not by much.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 5th, 2015, 6:09 am

Hang on a minute. Is this design even going to work? I think there could be quite a big problem.

Let's assume both sets of gliders are about to enter the NW UC to begin construction. The glider streams then head SE and enter the other UC. Either they enter in "construction mode" or in "pass through" mode.

In the first case the sequence of steps is:

NW construction -> SE construction -> NW pass through -> SE pass through -> NW Construction

In the other case it is:

NW construction -> SE pass through -> NW pass through -> SE construction -> NW construction

The important thing to notice is that there are two consecutive construction steps in both cases. Therefore let's assume the first case.

The two streams will enter the NW UC to do the construction but the syringe in the B-circuit is 5fd further NW than the syringe for the A-circuit and so the B-gliders will be offset by 10fd relative to the A-gliders when they get to the SE constructor. Yikes!

If I am right (I hope I am wrong) then a fix would be to line up the syringes in both circuits by replacing the NW31 H->G in the B-circuit with this spartan NW41:

x = 83, y = 70, rule = LifeHistory
$12.4B6.4B$13.4B6.4B$14.4B6.4B$15.4B6.4B$16.2BAB6.4B$17.B3A6.4B$18.3B
A6.4B$19.B2AB6.4B$20.4B6.4B$21.4B6.4B$22.4B6.4B$23.4B6.4B$21.7B6.4B$
19.9B7.4B$18.11B7.4B$19.13B5.4B$19.14B5.4B$18.16B5.4B$17.17B6.4B$17.
18B6.4B$16.19B7.4B$16.20B7.4B$9.A7.20B7.4B$9.3A3.21B9.4B$12.A2.21B10.
4B$11.2A2.19B13.4B$11.4B.17B15.4B$13.20B16.4B$13.20B17.4B$11.21B19.4B
$11.2BD18B20.4B$10.3BDBD14B23.4B$11.2B3D13B25.4B$10.5BD13B26.4B$9.20B
27.4B$8.4B4.13B28.4B$8.3B5.3B2.8B21.2A6.4B$6.4B4.2AB5.8B20.A8.4B$6.2A
5.A.AB6.6B18.BA.A9.4B12.A$7.A5.A8.6B17.B.B2A11.4B9.3A$4.3A5.2A8.7B15.
4B14.4B7.A$4.A16.9B14.4B15.4B6.2A$22.9B12.5B8.2A6.4B2.5B$22.10B11.6B
8.A7.8B$20.19B2.8B8.A.AB5.8B$18.B.2B2A26B8.2AB.3B2.8B$17.2A3B2A25B11.
16B$17.2A21B.7B12.18B$18.31B12.17B$16.5B2.B2.2B2.19B11.16B.B2A$16.2A
4.3B8.17B8.17B2.BA.A$17.A3.B2AB10.15B.2B2.20B5.A$14.3A5.2A12.38B6.2A$
14.A21.8B.20B.7B$34.8B3.2B2A16B2.6B$34.2A3.B5.2B2A16B3.6B$35.A10.18B
6.4B$32.3A12.B.3B.4B12.B2A2B$32.A20.3B14.2A.B2A$51.4B18.BA.A$51.2A23.
A$52.A23.2A$49.3A$49.A!


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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 5th, 2015, 8:37 am

chris_c wrote:Hang on a minute. Is this design even going to work? I think there could be quite a big problem.

Bother. No, unfortunately you're quite right... except that your suggested patch won't quite work.

In the original Demonoid designs, like the ones that are packaged with the Seeds of Destruction Game, the 180-degree reflector stages were always carefully lined up on the same diagonals, to avoid this exact problem.

A semi-Snark design, where both construction-arm gliders are produced by the same reflector but singleton gliders aren't allowed, doesn't have this problem.

So then when we switched back to a serial Circuit A / Circuit B design using syringes, I had forgotten about the exact-diagonal design limitation. The only way to avoid that limitation would be to add period-doublers somewhere before the glider outputs, and arrange it so that the NW and SE R.U.s process slightly different recipes... but I don't see how to make that into a worthwhile idea.

chris_c wrote:... a fix would be to line up the syringes in both circuits by replacing the NW31 H->G in the B-circuit with this spartan NW41...

Unfortunately I don't think that Fx119 can follow R64 in Spartan circuitry. In fact I think the R64+F119 has only ever been solved in a couple of very limited periodic contexts:

#C Period 299 and p336 guns using Karel Suhajda's method
#C to fit a 119-step Herschel conduit after a 64-step conduit.
#C Dave Greene, 26 February 2003
x = 601, y = 199, rule = LifeHistory
194.A$193.A.A$194.A3$199.2A$174.2A23.2A$175.A31.2A$175.A.A29.A$176.2A
27.A.A$199.2A4.2A$199.2A2$165.2A$166.A40.2A$166.A.A39.A$167.2A34.2A.A
$203.2A.2A$176.A8.2A$176.A.A6.2A16.2A.2A$179.A24.A.A$177.A.A24.A.A$
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3A5.A.A2.A4.3A58.A31.2A$420.3A.2A5.A61.A.A29.A$183.A201.2A5.2A17.A7.A
11.2A61.2A27.A.A$183.3A200.A5.2A16.A.A7.3A.2A91.2A4.2A$186.A22.A20.A
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2A3.2A47.A40.2A$146.A76.2A14.A151.A17.2A5.2A12.2A3.2A47.A.A39.A$144.
2A30.2A61.2A146.A12.A84.2A34.2A.A$145.2A29.A223.2A119.2A.2A$66.2A6.A
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A.3A53.A81.A.A$60.3A.2A100.2A3.2A43.2A25.A279.A$62.A.2A99.A2.A.A70.A.
A140.A$164.2A2.3A70.2A$165.2A.A.A$70.2A3.2A89.A$70.2A3.2A72.2A25.A51.
2A$150.A26.A7.2A32.2A6.A.A192.2A$147.3A25.3A7.2A11.2A20.A6.A194.2A$
147.A50.A20.A6.2A268.2A$80.A118.3A17.2A275.2A$79.A.A75.2A42.A$80.A76.
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14.A$62.2A194.A2.3A171.A50.2A3.A8.2A61.2A$62.2A194.A2.A.A223.2A.A9.A$
162.2A95.A3.A3.5A217.A8.A.A$163.A94.5A3.2A221.A8.2A$160.3A82.A5.4A.A.
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5A18.A50.A20.A6.2A$184.A49.A.A24.2A78.A.A4.2A27.2A19.2A5.A19.A.A19.A
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A63.A137.3A57.A27.A18.A44.A.A$59.A.A132.A.2A.2A62.2A196.A24.3A64.A$
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89.A5.A.A.A.A3.A2.A$82.2A8.A2.A90.A2.A8.2A137.A62.3A55.2A24.A84.A6.2A
4.A6.A.2A6.A$55.2A25.2A3.A5.2A92.2A144.A66.A5.2A46.2A111.2A.A6.2A4.3A
6.A.A5.A$43.A11.2A24.2A5.A125.A26.A90.3A43.2A26.A47.A.A110.2A.3A4.A5.
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37.4A5.2A77.2A165.3A9.A10.A5.A.A6.3A4.2A6.A.2A111.2A46.2A12.A$19.2A
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24.A.A49.A253.A.2A14.A2.A3.A.A.A.A5.A89.3A24.2A78.2A$41.2A2.2A50.2A
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A$3A81.2A120.A164.2A6.A2.A125.A2.2A3.A.2A67.2A$3.A202.3A171.2A126.2A
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2A52.A$52.2A51.A25.2A72.2A3.2A188.2A61.2A8.A3.2A51.3A$115.A89.2A3.2A
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2A$438.A39.A.A48.2A3.2A$102.2A334.2A40.A$102.2A376.2A$540.2A.A$446.2A
92.2A.3A$440.2A4.2A85.2A11.A$439.A.A27.2A63.A5.2A.3A$439.A29.A.A59.3A
4.A2.A.A$438.2A31.A59.A6.2A$446.2A23.2A$76.A26.A342.2A$75.A.A24.A.A$
75.A.A24.A$74.2A.2A16.2A6.A.A346.A$95.2A8.A345.A.A$74.2A.2A373.A$75.A
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A29.A.A$73.2A31.A$81.2A23.2A$81.2A3$87.A$86.A.A$87.A!

EDIT: So I think that means spending a little more time at the drawing board. Might even end up using something other than the R64 turn to produce 180-degree reflected gliders... anyway, two different attachments are needed that produce gliders at 10hd offsets, and at least one of them needs to be an edge-shooter.

Looking on the bright side -- maybe we can use this as an excuse to go back to using an Fx119 for the A circuit, and also come up with a design that allows a power-of-two period (and/or step size?)
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 5th, 2015, 10:46 am

The R64+Fx119 problem can be fixed by adding one more Spartan F conduit, of course, so one possible solution might be

x = 357, y = 406, rule = LifeHistory
240.B$239.2B$238.3B$237.4B$236.4B$235.4B$234.4B$233.4B$232.4B$231.4B$
230.4B6.B39.D$229.4B6.2B26.D12.3D$228.4B6.3B24.3D15.D11.D$227.4B6.4B
23.D17.2D9.3D$226.4B6.4B24.2D26.D$225.4B6.4B53.2D10.2D$224.4B6.4B66.D
$223.4B6.4B65.D.D$222.4B6.4B66.2D13.2D$221.4B6.4B44.2D36.2D$220.4B6.
4B45.2D$219.4B6.4B$218.4B6.4B91.2D$217.4B6.4B92.2D$216.4B6.4B89.2D$
215.4B6.4B90.2D$214.4B6.4B33.2D$213.4B6.4B34.D.D5.2D$212.4B6.4B37.D5.
D18.2D$211.4B6.4B38.2D5.3D16.D34.2D$210.4B6.4B48.D13.3D35.2D$209.4B6.
4B63.D$208.4B6.4B$207.4B6.4B$206.4B6.4B33.2D$205.4B6.4B34.2D3.2D$204.
4B6.4B40.2D$203.4B6.4B$202.4B6.4B$201.4B6.4B30.2D12.2D$200.4B6.4B32.D
6.2D4.D$199.4B6.4B30.3D7.2D5.3D$198.4B6.4B31.D18.D$197.4B6.4B$196.4B
6.4B$195.4B6.4B95.2D$194.4B6.4B95.D.D$193.4B6.4B96.D$192.4B6.4B96.2D$
191.4B6.4B$190.4B6.4B$189.4B6.4B$188.4B6.4B$187.4B6.4B$186.4B6.4B$
185.4B6.4B113.2D$184.4B6.4B114.2D7.2D$183.4B6.4B124.D$182.4B6.BD2B
123.D.D$181.4B6.3DB124.2D$180.4B6.D3B108.2D$179.4B6.B2DB109.2D$178.4B
6.4B100.2D$177.4B6.4B102.D$176.4B6.4B103.D.D$175.4B6.4B105.2D$174.4B
6.4B$173.4B6.4B$172.4B6.4B$171.4B6.4B$170.4B6.4B$169.4B6.4B$168.4B6.
4B$167.4B6.4B$166.4B6.4B118.2D$165.4B6.4B36.D81.D.D$164.4B6.4B24.D12.
3D79.D$163.4B6.4B23.3D15.D11.D65.2D$162.4B6.4B23.D17.2D9.3D$161.4B6.
4B24.2D26.D$160.4B6.4B53.2D10.2D$159.4B6.4B66.D$158.4B6.4B65.D.D$157.
4B6.4B66.2D13.2D59.2D$156.4B6.4B44.2D36.2D59.2D$155.4B6.4B45.2D89.2D$
154.4B6.4B138.D$153.4B6.4B91.2D43.3D$152.4B6.4B92.2D43.D$151.4B6.4B
89.2D$150.4B6.2D2B90.2D48.D$149.4B6.2BDB33.2D105.D.D$135.D12.4B6.3BD.
D32.D.D5.2D97.D.D$135.3D9.4B6.4B.2D34.D5.D18.2D76.3D.2D$138.D7.4B6.4B
38.2D5.3D16.D34.2D39.D$137.2D6.4B6.4B48.D13.3D35.2D40.3D.2D$144.4B6.
2D2B63.D81.D.2D$143.4B6.BD2B$142.4B6.DBDB157.2D$141.4B6.B2DB33.2D123.
2D7.2D$140.4B6.4B34.2D3.2D127.D$139.4B6.4B40.2D125.D.D$138.4B6.4B168.
2D$132.2D3.4B6.4B$131.D.D2.4B6.4B44.2D$131.D3.4B6.4B39.2D4.D$130.2D2.
4B6.4B40.2D5.3D102.2D$133.4B6.4B50.D102.2D$132.4B6.4B17.2D$131.4B6.4B
18.2D11.2D$130.4B6.4B32.D62.2D$129.4B6.B2DB34.3D58.D.D$128.4B4.2D2B2D
37.D58.D77.D$127.4B4.D.D3B96.2D76.D.D$126.4B5.D4B19.2D154.D.D$125.4B
5.2D3B20.D156.D$124.4B6.4B22.3D154.3D$123.4B6.4B25.D156.D$122.4B6.4B$
121.4B6.4B$120.4B6.4B113.2D$119.4B6.4B114.2D7.2D$118.4B6.4B124.D$117.
4B6.4B123.D.D$116.4B6.4B124.2D$115.4B6.4B108.2D$114.4B6.4B109.2D$113.
4B6.4B100.2D$112.4B6.4B102.D$111.4B6.4B103.D.D$110.4B6.4B105.2D$109.
4B6.7B$108.4B7.9B$107.4B7.11B$106.4B5.13B$105.4B5.14B$104.4B5.16B$
103.4B6.17B$102.4B6.18B$101.4B6.20B102.2D$100.4B6.21B19.A81.D.D$99.4B
6.21B7.A12.3A79.D$98.4B6.24B3.3A15.A11.A65.2D$97.4B6.4B.20B2.A17.2A9.
3A$96.4B6.4B3.19B2.2A16.B9.A$95.4B6.4B5.17B.4B14.3B9.2A10.2A$94.4B6.
4B6.20B14.6B5.5B10.A$93.4B6.4B7.20B11.10B3.4B9.BA.A$92.4B6.4B9.22B2.
2B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A13.2A59.2D$91.4B6.4B10.34B2A13B.7B14.B2AB58.2D$90.
4B6.4B13.32B2A21B15.2B51.2D$89.4B6.4B15.53B17.2B3.B47.D$88.4B6.4B16.
54B15.4B.B2A43.3D$87.4B6.4B17.56B11.8B2A43.D$86.4B6.4B18.13B4.4B.13B
3.B.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B$85.4B6.4B19.8B2.3B5.3B5.B.7B7.29B2A48.D$84.4B6.
4B22.5B5.B2A4.4B19.6B.24B47.D.D$83.4B6.4B23.4B6.BA.A5.2A17.5B.B2.28B
43.D.D$82.4B6.4B23.6B8.A5.A18.2A7.28B41.3D.2D$81.4B6.4B24.6B8.2A5.3A
16.A8.26B2A39.D$80.4B6.4B24.8B16.A13.3A16.4B.14B2A40.3D.2D$79.4B6.4B
26.6B31.A19.4B2.11B.B43.D.2D$78.4B6.4B26.7B52.4B2.10B$77.4B6.4B25.11B
51.14B56.2D$76.4B6.4B24.9B2A2B.B50.14B55.2D7.2D$75.4B6.4B25.9B2A3B2A
49.13B65.D$74.4B6.4B26.14B2A49.13B63.D.D$73.4B6.4B28.14B50.8B.2B65.2D
$72.4B6.4B29.3B.2B2.B2.5B48.8B$71.4B6.4B30.2A5.3B4.2A48.9B$70.4B6.4B
32.A5.B2AB3.A49.10B$69.4B6.4B30.3A7.2A5.3A45.7B.4B45.2D$68.4B6.4B31.A
18.A44.8B2.4B44.2D$67.4B6.4B95.8B4.4B$66.4B6.4B96.8B5.4B$65.4B6.4B95.
2AB2.6B5.4B$64.4B6.4B95.A.AB.7B6.4B$63.4B6.4B96.A4.6B8.4B55.D$62.4B6.
4B96.2A4.6B9.4B53.D.D$61.4B6.4B103.6B10.4B52.D.D$60.4B6.4B103.8B10.4B
52.D$59.4B6.4B105.8B10.4B52.3D$58.4B6.4B105.9B11.4B53.D$57.4B6.4B106.
9B12.4B$56.4B6.4B107.10B12.4B$55.4B6.4B108.5B2A3B13.4B$54.4B6.4B109.
5B2A4B3.2A8.4B$53.4B6.4B110.11B3.A10.4B$52.4B6.BA2B111.12BA.A11.4B$
51.4B6.3AB114.8B2.2A13.4B$50.4B6.A3B108.2A5.7B19.4B$49.4B6.B2AB107.2B
2AB2.7B22.4B$48.4B6.4B100.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B$47.4B6.4B102.A5.6B.11B.2B
18.4B$46.4B6.4B103.A.AB.22B19.4B$45.4B6.4B105.2AB.23B19.4B$44.4B6.7B
105.25B20.4B$43.4B7.9B103.28B18.4B$42.4B7.11B102.28B19.4B$41.4B5.13B
104.29B18.4B$40.4B5.14B105.28B19.4B$39.4B5.16B105.28B19.4B$38.4B6.17B
106.26B20.4B$37.4B6.18B105.27B21.4B$36.4B7.19B102.2AB.23B24.4B$35.4B
7.20B19.A81.A.AB.20B28.4B$34.4B7.20B7.A12.3A79.A4.16B33.4B$33.4B9.21B
3.3A15.A11.A65.2A3.18B33.4B$32.4B10.21B2.A17.2A9.3A69.20B33.4B$31.4B
13.19B2.2A16.B9.A73.20B33.3B$30.4B15.17B.4B14.3B9.2A10.2A63.18B33.2B$
29.4B16.20B14.6B5.5B10.A65.16B35.B$28.4B17.20B11.10B3.4B9.BA.A67.13B$
27.4B19.22B2.2B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A13.2A53.3B.2B2A5B$26.4B20.34B2A13B.7B
14.B2AB50.4B2.2B2A3B$25.4B23.32B2A21B15.2B51.2A3.8B$24.4B25.53B17.2B
3.B47.A4.8B$23.4B26.54B15.4B.B2A43.3A5.8B$22.4B27.56B11.8B2A43.A8.7B$
21.4B28.13B4.4B.13B3.B.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B53.7B$20.4B6.2A21.8B2.3B5.3B5.
B.7B7.29B2A48.A7.6B$19.4B8.A20.8B5.B2A4.4B19.6B.24B47.A.A6.6B$5.A12.
4B9.A.AB18.6B6.BA.A5.2A17.5B.B2.28B43.A.A6.5B$5.3A9.4B11.2AB.B17.6B8.
A5.A18.2A7.28B41.3A.2A4.6B$8.A7.4B14.4B15.7B8.2A5.3A16.A8.26B2A39.A4.
B6.6B$7.2A6.4B15.4B14.9B16.A13.3A16.4B.14B2A40.3AB2AB3.7B$7.5B2.4B6.
2A8.5B12.9B31.A19.4B2.11B.B43.A.2AB.8B$9.8B7.A8.6B11.10B52.4B2.10B49.
10B$8.8B5.BA.A8.8B2.19B51.14B50.6B2A3B$7.8B2.3B.B2A8.26B2A2B.B50.14B
49.6B2A2B5.2A$6.16B11.25B2A3B2A49.13B50.10B5.A$4.18B12.7B.21B2A49.13B
49.11B2.BA.A$4.17B12.31B50.8B.2B51.12B.B2A$2.2AB.16B11.19B2.2B2.B2.5B
48.8B53.15B$.A.AB2.17B8.17B8.3B4.2A48.9B51.16B$.A5.20B2.2B.15B10.B2AB
3.A49.10B47.2B.16B$2A6.38B12.2A5.3A45.7B.4B45.2A18B$9.7B.20B.8B21.A
44.8B2.4B44.2AB.17B$9.6B2.16B2A2B3.8B63.8B4.4B44.B.4B.8B2.4B$8.6B3.
16B2A2B5.B3.2A63.8B5.4B50.7B4.4B$8.4B6.18B10.A62.2AB2.6B5.4B50.6B5.4B
$8.2B2AB12.4B.3B.B12.3A58.A.AB.7B6.4B51.4B6.4B$6.2AB.2A14.3B20.A58.A
4.6B8.4B52.3BA5.4B$5.A.AB18.4B76.2A4.6B9.4B52.BA.A5.4B$5.A23.2A82.6B
10.4B52.A.A6.4B$4.2A23.A82.8B10.4B52.A8.4B$30.3A80.8B10.4B52.3A6.4B$
32.A79.9B11.4B53.A7.4B$112.9B12.4B61.4B$112.10B12.4B61.4B$112.5B2A3B
13.4B61.4B$112.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B61.4B$112.11B3.A10.4B61.4B$112.12BA.A11.
4B61.4B$114.8B2.2A13.4B61.4B$107.2A5.7B19.4B61.4B$105.2B2AB2.7B22.4B
61.4B$97.2A6.4B2.9B22.4B61.4B$98.A5.6B.11B.2B18.4B61.4B$98.A.AB.22B
19.4B61.4B$99.2AB.23B19.4B61.4B$101.25B20.4B61.4B$101.28B18.4B61.4B$
101.28B19.4B61.4B$102.29B18.4B61.4B$103.28B19.4B61.4B$104.28B19.4B61.
4B$106.26B20.4B61.4B$105.27B21.4B61.4B$103.2AB.23B24.4B61.4B$102.A.AB
.20B28.4B61.4B$102.A4.16B33.4B61.4B$101.2A3.18B33.4B61.4B$105.20B33.
4B61.4B$106.20B33.3B62.4B$109.18B33.2B63.4B$110.16B35.B64.4B$112.13B
102.4B$112.3B.2B2A5B103.4B$110.4B2.2B2A3B106.4B$110.2A3.8B107.4B$111.
A4.8B107.4B$108.3A5.8B108.4B$108.A8.7B109.4B$117.7B110.4B$109.A7.6B
112.4B$108.A.A6.6B113.4B$108.A.A6.5B115.4B$106.3A.2A4.6B116.4B$105.A
4.B6.6B116.4B$106.3AB2AB3.7B117.4B$108.A.2AB.8B119.4B$112.10B120.4B$
112.6B2A3B120.4B$112.6B2A2B5.2A115.4B$112.10B5.A117.4B$111.11B2.BA.A
118.4B$111.12B.B2A120.4B$110.15B123.4B$109.16B124.4B$106.2B.16B125.4B
$105.2A18B126.4B$105.2AB.17B126.4B$106.B.4B.8B2.4B126.4B$113.7B4.4B
126.4B$114.6B5.4B126.4B$116.4B6.4B126.4B$118.3BA5.4B126.4B$119.BA.A5.
4B126.4B$120.A.A6.4B126.4B$121.A8.4B126.4B$122.3A6.4B126.4B$124.A7.4B
126.4B$133.4B126.4B$134.4B126.4B$135.4B126.4B$136.4B126.4B$137.2B2C
126.4B$138.BCBC126.4B$139.CB128.4B$270.4B$271.4B$272.4B$273.4B$274.4B
$275.4B$276.4B$277.4B$278.4B$279.4B$280.4B$281.4B$282.4B$283.4B$284.
4B$285.4B$286.4B$287.4B$288.4B$289.4B$290.4B$291.4B$292.4B$293.4B$
294.4B$295.4B$296.4B$297.4B$298.4B$299.4B$300.4B$301.4B$302.4B$303.4B
$304.4B$305.4B$306.4B$307.4B$308.4B$309.4B$310.4B$311.4B$312.4B$313.
4B$314.4B$315.4B$316.4B$317.4B$318.4B$319.4B$320.4B$321.4B$322.4B$
323.4B$324.4B$325.4B$326.4B$327.4B$328.4B$329.4B$330.4B$331.4B$332.4B
$333.4B$334.4B$335.4B$336.4B$337.4B$338.4B$339.4B$340.4B$341.4B$342.
4B$343.4B$344.4B$345.4B$346.4B$347.4B$348.4B$349.4B$350.4B$351.4B$
352.4B$353.B3C$354.C2B$355.C!

There are seven still lifes that have to be built on the construction lanes, instead of just a block, and not counting the A and B blockers. I'm sure it's workable somehow, but it's definitely not as clean as we were hoping.

And it doesn't address the power-of-two problem, though I don't know how important a consideration that really is: it would be nice to have, but doesn't seem worth adding very much to the still-life count to fix it. But maybe it's worth looking a little harder for a new solution with two good edge-shooters?

EDIT: The Fx119 is nice in a couple of ways. It stays a good distance from the construction lanes. Also Circuit A and B are as close to identical as is possible, so most of the construction recipe and self-destruct circuitry can still be re-used. The Fx119's recovery time is a bit of a drawback, though -- we're suddenly up to 231 ticks instead of 153.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby chris_c » November 5th, 2015, 12:48 pm

dvgrn wrote:I'm sure it's workable somehow, but it's definitely not as clean as we were hoping.


No definitely not as clean as we thought. I found an alternative spartan NW41 but it looks equally difficult to build:

x = 73, y = 82, rule = LifeHistory
11.D3.D.D3.D4.D4.D3.5D2.3D2.5D.5D$11.2D2.D.D3.D3.2D3.2D5.D3.D3.D.D9.D
$11.D.D.D.D3.D2.D.D4.D5.D7.D.D8.D$11.D2.2D.D.D.D.D2.D4.D5.D5.2D3.3D4.
D$11.D3.D.D.D.D.5D3.D5.D7.D5.D2.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D4.D4.D5.D3.D3.D.D3.D.D
$11.D3.D.D3.D4.D3.3D4.D4.3D3.3D2.D4$12.3D2.D3.D8.3D2.5D2.3D4.D$11.D3.
D.D3.D7.D3.D3.D3.D3.D2.2D$11.D5.D3.D11.D3.D7.D3.D$12.3D2.D.D.D.5D4.D
4.D6.D4.D$15.D.D.D.D9.D5.D5.D5.D$11.D3.D.2D.2D8.D6.D4.D6.D$12.3D2.D3.
D7.5D3.D3.5D2.3D13$10.4B$11.4B$12.4B$13.4B$14.4B$15.4B$16.4B$17.4B$
18.4B34.A$19.4B33.3A$20.4B35.A$21.4B33.2A$22.4B32.4B$23.4B33.3B$24.4B
32.4B$25.4B32.4B$26.4B31.4B$27.4B30.5B$28.4B28.9B$29.4B27.9B$30.4B26.
9B$31.4B24.10B$32.4B22.12B$33.4B11.2A8.13B$28.2A4.4B11.A9.11B$28.A.A
4.4B10.A.AB4.12B$18.A11.A5.4B10.2AB.15B$18.3A9.2A5.4B11.17B$21.A9.B6.
4B10.17B$8.2A10.2A9.3B5.4B10.17B.B$9.A10.5B5.6B4.4B8.19B2A$9.A.AB9.4B
3.10B2.4B5.19B.B2A$10.2AB.3B4.6B2.11B2.4B.20B4.B$12.7B.13B2A32B$12.
21B2A22B.9B$13.44B2.7B$12.45B2.7B$10.46B4.6B$8.18B.B3.13B.7B7.7B$8.2B
C13B7.7B.B5.3B.4B7.6B$7.3BCBC4B.6B19.4B3.4B3.B.8B$8.2B3C4B2.B.5B17.2A
6.15B$7.5BC4B7.2A18.A7.4B2A7B.2B$6.10B8.A16.3A9.2BA2BA8B2A$5.4B16.3A
13.A12.2B2A7B.B2A$4.4B19.A28.9B2.B$3.4B51.6B$2.4B55.5B$.4B59.2A$4B60.
A$3B62.3A$2B65.A$B!


I went back and had a look at using the semi-snark method and together with your idea of automatic destruction it looks like the simplest method by far:

x = 312, y = 440, rule = LifeHistory
161.4B6.4B$160.4B6.4B15.D$159.4B6.4B14.3D$158.4B6.4B14.D$157.4B6.4B
15.2D8.2D$156.4B6.4B26.D$155.4B6.4B25.D.D$154.4B6.4B26.2D12.2D$153.4B
6.4B40.D.D$152.4B6.4B41.D11.D$151.4B6.4B41.2D9.3D$150.4B6.4B52.D$149.
4B6.4B53.2D10.2D$148.4B6.4B3.2D61.D$147.4B6.4B4.2D14.2D43.D.D$146.4B
6.4B21.2D43.2D13.2D$145.4B6.4B44.2D36.2D$144.4B6.4B45.2D$143.4B6.4B$
142.4B6.4B91.2D$141.4B6.4B92.2D$140.4B6.4B89.2D$139.4B6.4B90.2D$138.
4B6.4B$137.4B6.4B$119.2D8.D6.4B6.4B62.2D$119.2D6.3D5.4B6.4B64.D34.2D$
126.D7.4B6.4B62.3D35.2D$111.2D13.2D5.4B6.4B28.2D33.D$112.D19.4B6.4B
29.2D22.2D$112.D.D16.4B6.4B54.D.D$113.2D15.4B6.4B57.D$129.4B6.4B58.2D
$120.2D6.4B6.4B$120.2D5.4B6.4B$126.4B6.4B$125.4B6.4B$115.D8.4B6.4B$
114.D.D6.4B6.4B$114.2D6.4B6.4B$121.4B6.4B$120.4B6.4B$119.4B2D4.4B$
118.4B.2D3.4B$117.4B6.4B$116.4B6.4B$115.4B6.4B$114.4B6.4B$113.4B6.4B$
112.4B6.4B$111.4B6.4B$110.4B6.4B$109.4B6.4B113.2D$108.4B6.4B114.2D7.
2D$107.4B6.4B124.D$106.4B6.4B123.D.D$105.4B6.4B124.2D$104.4B6.4B$103.
4B6.4B$102.4B6.4B109.2D$101.4B6.4B111.D$100.4B6.4B112.D.D$99.4B6.4B
114.2D$98.4B6.4B$97.4B6.4B$96.4B6.4B131.2D$95.4B6.4B132.D.D$94.4B6.4B
135.D$93.4B6.4B136.2D$92.4B6.4B$91.4B6.4B$90.4B6.4B$89.4B6.4B$88.4B6.
4B$87.4B6.4B$86.4B6.4B138.2D$85.4B6.4B139.D$84.4B6.4B141.3D$83.4B6.4B
144.D$82.4B6.4B$81.4B6.4B$80.4B6.4B$79.4B6.4B129.2D$78.4B6.4B129.D.D$
77.4B6.4B130.D$76.4B6.4B130.2D$75.4B6.4B$74.4B6.4B$73.4B6.4B84.2D$72.
4B6.4B86.D$71.4B6.4B87.D$70.4B6.4B89.2D$69.4B6.4B147.2D$68.4B6.4B106.
2D40.2D7.2D$67.4B6.4B107.2D49.D$66.4B6.4B157.D.D$65.4B6.4B100.2D56.2D
$64.4B6.4B93.2D6.2D39.2D$63.4B6.4B94.2D47.2D$62.4B6.4B134.2D$61.4B6.
4B136.D$60.4B6.4B110.D26.D.D$59.4B6.4B110.D.D26.2D$58.4B6.4B104.2D6.
2D$57.4B6.4B106.D$56.4B6.4B104.3D$55.4B6.4B105.D$54.4B6.4B$53.4B6.4B$
52.4B6.4B$51.4B7.4B$50.4B7.5B150.2D$49.4B5.9B11.A136.D.D$48.4B6.9B9.
3A136.D$47.4B7.9B8.A138.2D$46.4B8.10B7.2A8.2A$45.4B8.16B.3B8.A$44.4B
8.19B7.BA.A$43.4B10.20B3.B.B2A12.2A$42.4B12.25B13.A.A$41.4B13.24B14.A
11.A122.2D$40.4B14.25B12.2A9.3A122.2D$39.4B15.24B13.B9.A117.2D$38.4B
13.B.26B10.3B9.2A10.2A105.D$37.4B13.2A27B8.6B5.5B10.A103.3D$36.4B14.
2AB.12B2A12B4.10B3.4B9.BA.A103.D$35.4B16.B4.10B2A12B3.11B2.6B4.3B.B2A
13.2A$34.4B22.32B2A13B.7B14.B2AB89.D$33.4B23.32B2A21B15.2B89.D.D$32.
4B25.7B2.44B17.2B3.B84.D.D$31.4B26.7B2.45B15.4B.B2A81.3D.2D$30.4B27.
6B4.46B11.8B2A80.D$29.4B28.7B5.23B3.B.19B2.2B2.6B2AB.B82.3D.2D$28.4B
29.6B6.15B.7B7.29B2A87.D.2D$27.4B29.7B7.13B16.6B.24B$26.4B31.6B7.14B
13.5B.B2.28B93.2D$8.2A8.A6.4B33.5B7.14B13.2A7.28B93.2D7.2D$7.B2AB5.3A
5.4B34.6B7.12B15.A8.26B2A101.D$8.3B4.A7.4B37.4B11.9B11.3A16.4B.14B2A
99.D.D$2A5.B.B5.2A5.4B37.B2A2B12.3B.4B11.A19.4B2.11B.B100.2D$.A5.10B
4.4B39.2A21.B2A30.4B2.10B$.A.AB2.8B5.4B63.BA.A30.14B$2.2AB.11B2.4B67.
A31.14B$4.18B68.2A30.13B83.2D$4.5B2A10B101.13B83.2D$5.4B2A9B102.8B.2B
$5.14B103.8B$5.14B103.9B$4.A.14B102.10B$3.A.A5.5B.4B100.7B.4B101.D$3.
2A7.4B2.4B98.8B2.4B99.D.D$12.2B5.4B96.8B4.4B98.D.D$11.4B5.4B94.9B5.4B
98.D$11.B2AB6.4B92.4B.6B5.4B98.3D$12.2A8.4B90.4B.7B6.4B99.D$23.4B88.
4B2.6B8.4B$24.4B86.4B3.6B9.4B$25.4B84.4B4.6B10.4B$26.4B82.4B4.8B10.4B
$27.4B80.4B6.8B10.4B$28.4B78.4B6.9B11.4B$29.4B76.4B7.9B12.4B$30.4B74.
4B8.10B12.4B$31.4B72.4B9.5B2A3B13.4B$32.4B70.4B10.5B2A4B3.2A8.4B$33.
4B68.4B11.11B3.A10.4B$34.4B66.4B12.12BA.A11.4B$35.4B64.4B15.8B2.2A13.
4B$36.4B62.4B16.7B19.4B$37.4B60.4B17.5B22.4B$38.4B58.4B10.2A5.6B23.4B
$39.4B56.4B12.A6.6B23.4B$40.4B54.4B13.A.AB2.8B23.4B$41.4B52.4B15.2AB
2.9B23.4B$42.4B50.4B18.12B24.4B$43.4B48.4B19.12B25.4B$44.4B46.4B20.
10B.B2A24.4B$45.4B44.4B22.8B2.BA.A24.4B$46.4B42.4B22.8B6.A25.4B$47.4B
40.4B24.8B5.2A25.4B$48.4B38.4B26.7B33.4B$49.4B36.4B24.11B33.4B$50.4B
34.4B24.12B34.4B$51.4B32.4B25.12B35.4B$52.4B30.4B26.11B37.4B$53.4B28.
4B27.8B.4B36.4B$54.4B26.4B28.7B4.2A37.4B$55.4B24.4B29.7B4.A39.3B$56.
4B22.4B30.6B6.3A37.2B$57.4B20.4B30.7B8.A38.B$58.4B18.4B30.8B$59.4B16.
4B30.8B$60.4B14.4B31.8B$61.4B12.4B30.2AB2.6B$62.4B10.4B30.A.AB.7B$63.
4B8.4B31.A4.6B$64.4B6.4B31.2A4.6B$65.4B4.4B38.6B$66.4B2.4B38.8B$60.2A
5.8B40.8B$61.A5.7B40.9B$61.A.AB.7B41.9B$62.2AB.9B39.10B$64.11B.2B36.
5B2A3B$64.13B2A35.5B2A4B3.2A$64.13B2A35.11B3.A$64.10B2.2B36.12BA.A$
61.2B.4B2A3B43.8B2.2A$60.2A6B2A3B36.2A5.7B$60.2AB.9B34.2B2AB2.7B$61.B
.10B26.2A6.4B2.9B$66.7B27.A5.6B.11B.2B$67.5B.A26.A.AB.22B$65.4B3.A.A
26.2AB.23B$65.2A6.2A28.25B$66.A36.28B$63.3A37.28B$63.A40.29B$105.28B$
106.28B$108.26B$107.27B$105.2AB.23B$104.A.AB.20B$104.A4.16B$103.2A3.
18B$107.20B$108.20B$111.18B$112.16B$114.13B$114.3B.2B2A5B$112.4B2.2B
2A3B$112.2A3.8B$113.A4.8B$110.3A5.8B$110.A8.7B$119.7B$111.A7.6B$110.A
.A6.6B$110.A.A6.5B$108.3A.2A4.6B$107.A4.B6.6B$108.3AB2AB3.7B$110.A.2A
B.8B$114.10B$114.6B2A3B$114.6B2A2B5.2A$114.10B5.A$113.11B2.BA.A$113.
12B.B2A$112.15B$111.16B$108.2B.16B$107.2A18B$107.2AB.17B$108.B.4B.8B
2.4B$115.7B4.4B$116.6B5.4B$118.4B6.4B$120.3BA5.4B$121.BA.A5.4B$122.A.
A6.4B$123.A8.4B$124.3A6.4B$126.A7.4B$135.4B$136.4B$137.4B$138.4B$139.
4B$140.4B$141.4B$142.4B$143.B3A$144.A3B$145.A3B$146.4B$147.4B$148.4B$
149.4B$150.4B$151.4B$152.4B$153.4B$154.4B$155.4B$156.4B$157.4B$158.4B
$159.4B$160.4B$161.4B$162.4B$163.4B$164.4B$165.4B$166.4B$167.4B$168.
4B$169.4B$170.4B$171.4B$172.4B$173.4B$174.4B$175.4B$176.4B$177.4B$
178.4B$179.4B$180.4B$181.4B$182.4B$183.4B$184.4B$185.2B2A$186.BABA$
187.A3B$188.4B$189.4B$190.4B$191.4B$192.4B$193.4B$194.4B$195.4B$196.
4B$197.4B$198.4B$199.4B$200.4B$201.4B$202.4B$203.4B$204.4B$205.4B$
206.4B$207.4B$208.4B$209.4B$210.4B$211.4B$212.4B$213.4B$214.4B$215.4B
$216.4B$217.4B$218.4B$219.4B$220.4B$221.4B$222.4B$223.3BA$224.B2AB$
225.ABAB$226.4B$227.4B$228.4B$229.4B$230.4B$231.4B$232.4B$233.4B$234.
4B$235.4B$236.4B$237.4B$238.4B$239.4B$240.4B$241.4B$242.4B$243.4B$
244.4B$245.4B$246.4B$247.4B$248.4B$249.4B$250.4B$251.4B$252.4B$253.4B
$254.4B$255.4B$256.4B$257.4B$258.4B$259.4B$260.4B$261.4B$262.B3A$263.
A3B$264.A3B$265.4B$266.4B$267.4B$268.4B$269.4B$270.4B$271.4B$272.4B$
273.4B$274.4B$275.4B$276.4B$277.4B$278.4B$279.4B$280.4B$281.4B$282.4B
$283.4B$284.4B$285.4B$286.4B$287.4B$288.4B$289.4B$290.4B$291.4B$292.
4B$293.4B$294.4B$295.4B$296.4B$297.4B$298.4B$299.4B$300.2B2A$301.2A2B
$302.BA2B$303.4B$304.4B$305.4B$306.4B$307.4B$308.4B!


The five gliders in the pattern are at spacing 170, 153, 153 and 153 giving a minimum repeat time between glider pairs of 629. The glider on the inner lane is around 100 ticks ahead of the outer glider. On average the glider pairs will be alongside each other so on average we will get a glider pair every 729 generations. We lose the ability to send singleton gliders and the repeat time suffers but it looks so simple that I can't bring myself to care.
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Re: Demonoid (diagonal Geminoid) working notes

Postby dvgrn » November 5th, 2015, 12:57 pm

chris_c wrote:I went back and had a look at using the semi-snark method and together with your idea of automatic destruction it looks like the simplest method by far... We lose the ability to send singleton gliders and the repeat time suffers but it looks so simple that I can't bring myself to care.

I may well be convinced by this eventually, but give me a few days to get used to the loss of 153-tick repeat times -- and singleton gliders, which are worth a lot in terms of construction efficiency. There might be a few other crazy options to consider.

How much construction difficulty might we want to deal with, to keep the circuitry down to a reasonable size? We're building two eater2s already, so maybe another one wouldn't be so bad...

x = 218, y = 236, rule = LifeHistory
121.4B$120.4B$119.4B$118.4B$117.4B$116.4B$115.4B$114.4B$113.4B6.A$
112.4B5.3A$111.4B5.A$110.4B6.2A7.2A$105.3B.4B5.4B6.A.A$105.9B2.4B8.A$
104.2A9B.5B6.2A$104.2A17B2.BA$105.B.19B3A$107.18B.B2.A$104.21B3.2A$
102.3BA20B$102.2BABA19B$102.2BA2BA18B$102.3B2A17B.B2A.A$103.7B.11B3.B
2AB3A$104.6B2.8B7.B4.A$107.2B3.7B7.2A.3A$107.B3.11B5.A.A$106.2A3.12B
4.A.A$106.A4.12B5.A$104.A.A5.11B$104.2A4.4B.4B3DB$110.2A4.4BD2B$111.A
4.2B3D2B$108.3A6.6B$108.A8.7B$117.8B$118.8B$118.8B$117.6B2.B$117.7B.B
$101.2A15.6B$102.A8.B4.8B$102.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB$103.2AB.13B2A2B$105.18B$
105.17B$106.13B$108.12B$110.10B$110.11B$111.2B.7B$111.11B$110.11B$
110.11B$110.11B$110.B3D4B2.B2A$110.2BD5B2.BA.A$110.2B3D2B6.A$110.7B6.
2A$109.7B$108.8B$107.8B$107.8B$105.2AB2.6B$104.A.AB.7B$104.A4.6B$103.
2A4.6B$109.6B$108.8B$109.8B$108.9B$108.9B$108.10B$108.5B2A3B$108.5B2A
4B3.2A$108.11B3.A$108.12BA.A$110.8B2.2A$103.2A5.7B$101.2B2AB2.7B$93.
2A6.4B2.9B$94.A5.6B.11B.2B$94.A.AB.22B$95.2AB.23B$97.25B$97.28B$97.
28B$24.3B71.29B$23.4B72.28B$22.4B74.28B$21.4B77.26B$20.4B77.27B$19.4B
76.2AB.23B$18.4B76.A.AB.20B$17.4B77.A4.16B$16.4B77.2A3.18B$15.5B81.
20B$14.8B6.2A72.20B$12.11B5.A76.18B$10.13B2.BA.A77.16B$9.14B2.B2A80.
13B$9.17B82.3B.2B2A5B$10.16B80.4B2.2B2A3B$12.14B80.2A3.8B$13.13B81.A
4.8B$13.14B77.3A5.8B$13.15B76.A8.7B$10.17B4.2A80.7B$10.17B3.B2AB71.A
7.6B$10.17B3.4B70.A.A6.6B$8.22B.3B2.B6.2A59.A.A6.5B$7.31B5.A58.3A.2A
4.6B$6.33B.BA.A57.A4.B6.6B$5.34B.B2A59.3AB2AB3.7B$4.2A35B63.A.2AB.8B$
3.A.AB3.31B67.10B$3.A8.28B68.6B2A3B$2.2A8.27B69.6B2A2B5.2A$13.2B.10B
3.10B69.10B5.A$12.2B4.11B.9B68.11B2.BA.A$11.B2AB3.20B69.12B.B2A$12.2A
4.12B.4B71.15B$19.11B.4B70.16B$17.4B.4B3DB2.3B67.2B.16B$17.2A4.4BD2B
3.B67.2A18B$18.A4.2B3D2B71.2AB.17B$15.3A6.6B72.B.4B.8B2.4B$15.A8.7B
78.7B4.4B$24.8B78.6B5.4B$25.8B79.4B6.4B$25.8B81.3BA5.B$24.6B2.B82.BA.
A$24.7B.B83.A.A$8.2A15.6B86.A$9.A8.B4.8B87.3A$9.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB90.A$
10.2AB.13B2A2B$12.18B$12.17B$13.13B$15.12B$17.10B$17.11B$18.2B.7B$18.
11B$17.11B$17.11B$17.11B$17.B3D4B2.B2A$17.2BD5B2.BA.A$17.2B3D3B5.A$
17.7B6.2A$16.7B$15.8B$14.8B$14.8B$12.2AB2.6B$11.A.AB.7B$11.A4.6B$10.
2A4.6B$16.6B$15.8B$16.8B$15.9B$15.9B$15.10B$15.5B2A3B$15.5B2A4B3.2A$
15.11B3.A$15.12BA.A$17.8B2.2A$10.2A5.7B$8.2B2AB2.7B$2A6.4B2.9B$.A5.6B
.11B.2B$.A.AB.22B$2.2AB.23B$4.25B$4.28B$4.28B$5.29B$6.28B$7.28B$9.26B
$8.27B$6.2AB.23B$5.A.AB.20B$5.A4.16B$4.2A3.18B$8.20B$9.20B$12.18B$13.
16B$15.13B$15.3B.2B2A5B$13.4B2.2B2A3B$13.2A3.8B$14.A4.8B$11.3A5.8B$
11.A8.7B$20.7B$12.A7.6B$11.A.A6.6B$11.A.A6.5B$9.3A.2A4.6B$8.A4.B6.6B$
9.3AB2AB3.7B$11.A.2AB.8B$15.10B$15.6B2A3B$15.6B2A2B5.2A$15.10B5.A$14.
11B2.BA.A$14.12B.B2A$13.15B$12.16B$9.2B.16B$8.2A18B$8.2AB.17B$9.B.4B.
8B2.4B$16.7B4.4B183.B2C$17.6B5.4B182.BCBC$19.4B6.4B182.CB$21.3BA5.4B$
22.BA.A5.4B$23.A.A6.4B$24.A8.4B$25.3A6.4B$27.A7.4B$36.4B$37.4B$38.4B$
39.4B$40.2B2C$41.BCBC$42.CB!

This isn't quite good enough, I think, because there are five relative positions where the A inserter would interfere with the B glider. That's a relief, because it wouldn't be much fun to build the eater2 and the joined eaters at that distance from the construction lanes. So what's the most workable combination along these lines?

Another attempt -- too long, and contains an Fx119, but Spartan besides the syringe, and only one eater in the construction lanes:

x = 218, y = 317, rule = LifeHistory
117.4B6.4B$116.4B6.4B$115.4B6.4B$114.4B6.4B$113.4B6.4B$112.4B6.4B$
111.4B6.4B$110.4B6.4B$109.4B6.4B$108.4B6.4B$107.4B6.4B$106.4B6.4B$
105.4B6.4B$104.4B6.4B$103.4B6.4B$102.4B6.4B$101.4B6.4B$100.4B6.4B$99.
4B6.4B$98.4B6.4B$97.4B6.4B$96.4B6.4B$95.4B6.4B$94.4B6.4B$93.4B6.4B$
92.4B6.4B$91.4B6.4B$90.4B6.4B$89.4B6.4B$88.4B6.4B$87.4B6.4B$86.4B6.4B
$85.4B6.4B$84.4B6.4B$83.4B6.4B$82.4B6.4B$81.4B6.4B$80.4B6.4B$79.4B6.
4B$78.4B6.5B$77.4B6.8B6.2A$76.4B5.11B5.A$75.4B4.13B2.BA.A$74.4B4.14B
2.B2A$73.4B5.17B$72.4B7.16B$71.4B10.14B$70.4B12.13B$69.4B13.14B$68.4B
14.15B$67.4B12.17B4.2A$66.4B13.17B3.B2AB$65.4B14.17B3.4B$64.4B13.22B.
3B2.B6.2A$63.4B13.31B5.A$62.4B13.33B.BA.A$61.4B13.34B.B2A$60.4B13.2A
35B$59.4B13.A.AB3.31B$58.4B14.A8.28B$57.4B14.2A8.27B$56.4B26.2B.10B3.
10B$55.4B26.2B4.11B.9B$54.4B26.B2AB3.20B$53.4B28.2A4.12B.4B$52.4B36.
11B.4B16.B$51.4B35.4B.8B2.3B14.4B$50.4B36.2A4.7B3.B15.6B$49.4B38.A4.
7B18.9B$48.4B36.3A6.6B15.13B$47.4B37.A8.7B12.16B$46.4B47.8B11.16B$45.
4B49.8B3.B5.17B$44.4B50.9B.25B$43.4B50.38B$42.4B51.39B$41.4B53.39B$
40.4B51.2B.40B$39.4B51.2A4B2A36B$38.4B52.2AB.2B2A6B.26B2.B2A$37.4B54.
B2.5B2.B4.25B2.BA.A$36.4B57.6B8.23B6.A$35.4B58.4B10.23B6.2A$34.4B59.
2B2AB8.20B2.B$33.4B58.2AB.2A9.19B$32.4B58.A.AB10.16B.2B$31.4B59.A13.
2A2.8B.3B$30.4B59.2A14.A2.9B$29.4B73.3A3.9B$28.4B74.A5.6B2.B2A$27.4B
80.7B2.BA.A$26.4B80.8B5.A$25.4B80.8B6.2A$24.4B80.9B$23.4B80.2A2B.6B$
22.4B80.ABAB.7B$21.4B81.A2B2.6B15.2A$20.4B81.2AB3.8B4.B8.A$19.4B83.B
5.B2A6B.4B3.BA.A$18.4B89.2B2A13B.B2A$17.4B91.18B$16.4B93.17B$15.4B97.
13B$14.4B97.12B$13.5B97.10B$12.8B6.2A86.11B$10.11B5.A87.7B.2B$8.13B2.
BA.A86.11B$7.14B2.B2A88.11B$7.17B90.11B$8.16B90.11B$10.14B88.2A2B.8B$
11.13B87.A.AB2.8B$11.14B86.A5.8B$11.15B84.2A6.7B$8.17B4.2A88.7B$8.17B
3.B2AB87.8B$8.17B3.4B88.8B$6.22B.3B2.B6.2A77.9B$5.31B5.A77.6B.4B$4.
33B.BA.A77.7B.4B$3.34B.B2A62.2A15.6B2.4B$2.2A35B65.A8.B4.8B3.4B$.A.AB
3.31B65.A.AB3.4B.6B2AB5.4B$.A8.28B67.2AB.13B2A2B5.4B$2A8.27B70.18B7.
4B$11.2B.10B3.10B70.17B9.4B$10.2B4.11B.9B71.13B13.4B$9.B2AB3.20B74.
12B13.4B$10.2A4.12B.4B79.10B14.4B$17.11B.4B79.11B14.4B$15.4B.8B2.3B
80.2B.7B15.4B$15.2A4.7B3.B81.11B15.4B$16.A4.7B84.11B17.4B$13.3A6.6B
84.11B18.4B$13.A8.7B83.11B19.4B$22.8B82.8B2.B2A18.4B$23.8B81.8B2.BA.A
18.4B$23.8B81.8B5.A19.4B$22.6B2.B2A79.7B6.2A19.4B$22.7B.BA.A77.7B29.
4B$23.6B4.A76.8B30.4B$23.6B4.2A74.8B32.4B$23.6B80.8B33.4B$22.8B77.2AB
2.6B33.4B$21.8B77.A.AB.7B34.4B$21.9B76.A4.6B36.4B$21.9B75.2A4.6B37.4B
$20.10B81.6B38.4B$20.3B2A5B80.8B38.4B$14.2A3.4B2A5B81.8B38.4B$15.A3.
11B80.9B39.4B$15.A.A12B80.9B40.4B$16.2A2.8B82.10B40.4B$21.7B82.5B2A3B
41.4B$22.6B82.5B2A4B3.2A36.4B$22.7B81.11B3.A38.4B$21.7B5.2A75.12BA.A
39.4B$21.8B3.A.A77.8B2.2A41.3B$21.8B3.A72.2A5.7B47.2B$21.9B.2A70.2B2A
B2.7B50.B$20.11B64.2A6.4B2.9B$19.12B65.A5.6B.11B.2B$19.12B65.A.AB.22B
$12.2A6.10B67.2AB.23B$13.A7.11B67.25B$13.A.AB.14B67.28B$14.2AB.13B2A
66.28B$16.15B2A67.29B$15.15B.B69.28B$16.14B72.28B$14.2AB.11B75.26B$
13.A.AB3.9B74.27B$13.A8.8B71.2AB.23B$12.2A9.7B70.A.AB.20B$20.11B69.A
4.16B$19.12B68.2A3.18B$19.12B72.20B$19.11B74.20B$19.8B.4B75.18B$19.7B
4.2A76.16B$19.7B4.A79.13B$19.6B6.3A76.3B.2B2A5B$18.7B8.A74.4B2.2B2A3B
$17.8B83.2A3.8B$16.8B85.A4.8B$16.8B82.3A5.8B$14.2AB2.6B81.A8.7B$13.A.
AB.7B90.7B$13.A4.6B15.2A66.A7.6B$12.2A4.8B4.B8.A66.A.A6.6B$19.B2A6B.
4B3.BA.A66.A.A6.5B$18.2B2A13B.B2A65.3A.2A4.6B$19.18B66.A4.B6.6B$20.
17B67.3AB2AB3.7B$23.13B70.A.2AB.8B$22.12B76.10B$22.10B78.6B2A3B$21.
11B78.6B2A2B5.2A$21.7B.2B79.10B5.A$20.11B78.11B2.BA.A$21.11B77.12B.B
2A$21.11B76.15B$21.11B75.16B$19.2A2B.8B72.2B.16B$18.A.AB2.8B71.2A18B$
18.A5.8B71.2AB.17B$17.2A6.7B72.B.4B.8B2.4B$26.7B78.7B4.4B$26.8B78.6B
5.4B$27.8B79.4B6.4B$27.9B80.3BA5.4B$26.6B.4B80.BA.A5.4B$26.7B.4B80.A.
A6.4B$10.2A15.6B2.4B80.A8.4B$11.A8.B4.8B3.4B80.3A6.4B$11.A.AB3.4B.6B
2AB5.4B81.A7.4B$12.2AB.13B2A2B5.4B89.4B$14.18B7.4B89.4B$14.17B9.4B89.
4B$15.13B13.4B89.4B$17.12B13.4B89.4B$19.10B14.4B89.4B$19.11B14.4B89.
4B$20.2B.7B15.4B89.4B$20.11B15.4B89.4B$19.11B17.4B89.4B$19.11B18.4B
89.4B$19.11B19.4B89.4B$19.8B2.B2A18.4B89.4B$19.8B2.BA.A18.4B89.4B$19.
8B5.A19.4B89.4B$19.7B6.2A19.4B89.4B$18.7B29.4B89.4B$17.8B30.4B89.4B$
16.8B32.4B89.4B$16.8B33.4B89.4B$14.2AB2.6B33.4B89.4B$13.A.AB.7B34.4B
89.4B$13.A4.6B36.4B89.4B$12.2A4.6B37.4B89.4B$18.6B38.4B89.4B$17.8B38.
4B89.4B$18.8B38.4B89.4B$17.9B39.4B89.4B$17.9B40.4B89.4B$17.10B40.4B
89.4B$17.5B2A3B41.4B89.4B$17.5B2A4B3.2A36.4B89.4B$17.11B3.A38.4B89.4B
$17.12BA.A39.4B89.4B$19.8B2.2A41.4B89.3B$12.2A5.7B47.4B89.2B$10.2B2AB
2.7B50.4B89.B$2.2A6.4B2.9B50.4B$3.A5.6B.11B.2B46.4B$3.A.AB.22B47.4B$
4.2AB.23B47.4B$6.25B48.4B$6.28B46.4B$6.28B47.4B$7.29B46.4B$8.28B47.4B
$9.28B47.4B$11.26B48.4B$10.27B49.4B$8.2AB.23B52.4B$7.A.AB.20B56.4B$7.
A4.16B61.4B$6.2A3.18B61.4B$10.20B61.4B$11.20B61.4B$14.18B61.4B$15.16B
63.4B$17.13B65.4B$17.3B.2B2A5B66.4B$15.4B2.2B2A3B69.4B$15.2A3.8B70.4B
$16.A4.8B70.4B$13.3A5.8B71.4B$13.A8.7B72.4B$22.7B73.4B$14.A7.6B75.4B$
13.A.A6.6B76.4B$13.A.A6.5B78.4B$11.3A.2A4.6B79.4B$10.A4.B6.6B79.4B$
11.3AB2AB3.7B80.4B$13.A.2AB.8B82.4B$17.10B83.4B$17.6B2A3B83.4B$17.6B
2A2B5.2A78.4B$17.10B5.A80.4B$16.11B2.BA.A81.4B$16.12B.B2A83.4B$15.15B
86.4B$14.16B87.4B$11.2B.16B88.4B$10.2A18B89.4B$10.2AB.17B89.4B$11.B.
4B.8B2.4B89.4B90.3C$18.7B4.4B89.4B89.C$19.6B5.4B89.4B89.C$21.4B6.4B
89.4B$23.3BA5.4B89.4B$24.BA.A5.4B89.4B$25.A.A6.4B89.4B$26.A8.4B89.4B$
27.3A6.4B89.4B$29.A7.4B89.4B$38.4B89.4B$39.4B89.4B$40.4B89.4B$41.4B
89.4B$42.2B2C$43.BCBC$44.CB!

If we do go back to semi-Snarks, is there a geometry that allows only one semi-Snark instead of two? Or we have Spartan G0 emitters that could get past one semi-Snark with no loss of data... but then we're back to a much higher repeat time again. Drat, bother, and humbug.
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