## Soup search results

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### Re: Soup search results

Sphenocorona wrote:Because there's so much room with this method, there's probably a lot of room for improvement (reducing the 8 glider (!) setup of the dentral pattern to something more reasonable like 3 gliders).

Well, here's the central part in 5 gliders (for a total of 12), but I'm sure that can be improved further:

x = 14, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory11.A.A$11.2A$12.A$2.A$A.A$.2A$7.A$7.A.A$7.2A$12.2A$11.2A$13.A7$3A$2.A$.A!
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### Re: Soup search results

simeks wrote:
Sphenocorona wrote:Because there's so much room with this method, there's probably a lot of room for improvement (reducing the 8 glider (!) setup of the dentral pattern to something more reasonable like 3 gliders).

Well, here's the central part in 5 gliders (for a total of 12), but I'm sure that can be improved further:

x = 14, y = 21, rule = LifeHistory11.A.A$11.2A$12.A$2.A$A.A$.2A$7.A$7.A.A$7.2A$12.2A$11.2A$13.A7$3A$2.A$.A!

The P spark arises in 2 2-glider collisions, one of which works here, reducing this to 10 gliders:
x = 112, y = 26, rule = B3/S2384bobo$85boo$85bo3$66b3o17b3o$29bo$30bo$28b3o$64boo3boo13boo3boo13boo3boo$27b3o34bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo$o26bo26bo11bobo17bobo17bobo$boo25bo23boo11booboo15booboo15booboo$oo51boo8bo7bo11bo7bo11bo7bo$63b4ob4o11b4ob4o11b4ob4o$66bobo17bobo17bobo$15bobo10b3o6bobo23booboboboo11booboboboo11booboboboo$16boo10bo8boo24bobbobobbo11bobbobobbo11bobbobobbo$16bo12bo8bo25bobobobo13bobobobo13bobobobo$65bo3bo15bo3bo15bo3bo4$13boo25boo$12bobo25bobo$14bo25bo!
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### Re: Soup search results

Here are the fourteen missing fourteen-bitters, so that nobody else has to do the same search:
x = 243, y = 10, rule = B3/S232o17b2o16b2o3b2o11b2o4b2obo8b2o5bobo11b2o17b2o17b2o16b2o13bob2o13b2o14bobo16bo15bob2o$obobo14bobo15bobo2bo12bobo2bo2b2o8bobo3bob2o11bobo16bobo16bo2bo3b2o10bo13b2o2bo13bo14b2obo14bobo14b2obo$3b2o17bob2o14bobo15bo2bo14bo2bo17bo18bo17b2o3bo10bo17bo13bo5b2o11bo14bo2bo3b2o12b2o$5b2o16b2obo14bo17b2o16bobo18bo18bo18b2obo11b3o15b3o10b2o3bobo11bob2o10b2o3bo2bo15bob2o$5bobobo17bobo12b3o33bo20bo3b2o13bo17bobo15bo17bo11bobo15bo2bo15bobo15b2obo$8b2o18b2o14bo55bo2bo15bo33bo2b2o13bobo10b2o18bobo15bo$101bobo16bo33b2obo14bo32bo$102bo18bo$122bobo$123b2o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1794 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Soup search results I'm surprised that the 10th object in that set hasn't shown up yet--no hook motif, long diagonal chain of bits, or extended snake-ish structure. Tanner Jacobi Kazyan Posts: 860 Joined: February 6th, 2014, 11:02 pm ### Re: Soup search results Yet another natural linear-growth pattern: yl1152_1_305_23828957c259441638bcee6ea2ba8520/b3s23 Astounding - nothing for so long, and all of a sudden the floodgates are wide open. If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1025 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results Well, their histories overlap but they don't interact. This might be a call for better SE recognition. Or, since they seem to be rare enough, perhaps it will suffice to observe all flagged-as-nonstandard-SE and perform correction ourselves. Physics: sophistication from simplicity. biggiemac Posts: 504 Joined: September 17th, 2014, 12:21 am Location: California, USA ### Re: Soup search results A seed for a 28-cell still life: x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S233o4b2o$6bo2bo$7bobo$8bo$5bo$4bobo$4bobo$5bo3bo$b3o5bo$3bo5bo$2bo! This produces a mold variant: x = 10, y = 14, rule = B3/S23b2o$o2bo$obo$2o3$7bo$4b3o$3bo$3bobo$4b2o2$8b2o$8b2o! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt) $$x_1=\eta x$$ $$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$ $$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$ $$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$ http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1880 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Soup search results isaacg wrote:Check out this new type of 2 switch-engine interaction, with period 4608: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23oobobobbbooobboo$bbbboboobobobboo$booobbobboboooob$bobobobooboboooo$bbbbbbbboobbbbbb$boobobbbboboooob$bboboooobobobobb$bobbbbbbbbbbbbob$bobbobbbooobbooo$oobobboboboooboo$oboobbbboobbbbob$oboboobobboboobb$oboooboobooooobo$bbbbbbbobboobobb$obbooboooooobboo$bbobbobboboobboo!

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### Re: Soup search results

A 7 glider synthesis of an 18 bit P2 that just showed up in an asymmetric soup:

x = 53, y = 52, rule = B3/S2351bo$50bo$50b3o22$32bo$31bo$22bo8b3o$23bo$21b3o4$18b3o$20bo$19bo$23b2o$22bobo$24bo9$2o$b2o$o$4bo$4b2o$3bobo! chris_c Posts: 905 Joined: June 28th, 2014, 7:15 am ### Re: Soup search results chris_c wrote:A 7 glider synthesis of an 18 bit P2 that just showed up in an asymmetric soup: rle Cool! Apparently, one of my instances found that one. The haul has already scrolled off though. Kazyan wrote:I'm surprised that the 10th object in that set hasn't shown up yet--no hook motif, long diagonal chain of bits, or extended snake-ish structure. Now it has! http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs1 ... 34a4/b3s23 "What's purple and commutes? The Evanston Express." thunk Posts: 165 Joined: October 3rd, 2015, 8:50 pm Location: Central USA ### Re: Soup search results chris_c wrote:A 7 glider synthesis of an 18 bit P2 that just showed up in an asymmetric soup: x = 53, y = 52, rule = B3/S2351bo$50bo$50b3o22$32bo$31bo$22bo8b3o$23bo$21b3o4$18b3o$20bo$19bo$23b2o$22bobo$24bo9$2o$b2o$o$4bo$4b2o$3bobo!

Nice! One of the things I am currently working on is synthesizing all 18-bit P2 oscillators (or at least as many as possible), and this one didn't look easy. I just saw this come up on the twitter feed tonight, and from how it formed, I figured it could be made from 8 (5 gliders for the engine - 2 for traffic light + 3 for butterfly), but I thought I would check here first, to see if anyone had already done so (which you did, and more cheaply). It turns out that the engine, when left to its own devices, forms a common constellation I call "W": a ship, two blocks, and two blinkers. There are dozens of ways to make it from 3 gliders: http://codercontest.com/mniemiec/20/20shb2b2.rle. This means there are many ways to make this from just 6 gliders, e.g.:
x = 88, y = 70, rule = B3/S2366bo$66bobo$66boo26$33bobo$33boo$34bo$$30bo4boo43b3o31bo4boo29b3o3bo45boboo80bo4bo80boo3bo87bo83bobobo83boobbo24booobobbo$$4b3o$6bo$5bo! mniemiec Posts: 1045 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results The first haul: The first haul was submitted by (of course) Adam Goucher. It contained 3300 soups and can be found here: http://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23 ... 9e805bf8d5. This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Soup search results Why is quadpole on ship more common than tripole? This post was brought to you by the letter D, for dishes that Andrew J. Wade won't do. (Also Daniel, which happens to be me.) Current rule interest: B2ce3-ir4a5y/S2-c3-y drc Posts: 1664 Joined: December 3rd, 2015, 4:11 pm Location: creating useless things in OCA ### Re: Soup search results drc wrote:Why is quadpole on ship more common than tripole? Because of this common reaction: x = 10, y = 11, rule = B3/S232o$obo$b2o$3b2o$3bobo$4b2o2$6b3o$9bo$9bo$8bo!

Anytime there's a ship-tie-X, it likely indicates a ship-to-X component, or a fleet was disturbed during its formation. It's how I found this really weird component:
x = 16, y = 13, rule = B3/S232o$o2b2o$bo2bo$b3o$7b2o$7b2o2$10b2o$10bobo$11b2o$13b2o$13bobo$14b2o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1794 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Soup search results A very interesting still-life showed up in the soup search: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs33_xg6p7ob96z69d1e96/b3s23. What makes this so interesting is that it has rotational symmetry, and a fairly complex structure, but both halves form in completely different ways, and the object is asymmetric until the generation immediately before it stabilizes. x = 11, y = 9, rule = B3/S23b2ob2o$obobobo$o3bobo$b3obo$3bobobo$5bob3o$4bobo3bo$4bobobobo$5b2ob2o! mniemiec Posts: 1045 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results New buckaroo variant - shortened E-buckaroo with moose antlers, if I ain't mistaken: x = 23, y = 14, rule = B3/S2311b2o$10bobo$2o7b3o$2o6b3o$9b3o$10bobo5b2o$11b2o5bobo$20bo$20b2o$22bo$20b2o$20bo$18bobo$18b2o!

Sample soup (it's fully formed by generation 1211):

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bbobboobbbboobbo$oooboobbobbboobb$obbbboobboboobob$obboobbobbboboob$obboooboobobbobb$bobbobobboboobbo$bbbbboobbooobbob$boooobbbbboobobb$bbbboobboboobboo$obbboooboobobobb$ooooooobboooboob$bobobooobbbbbooo$obobbboooobbbbbb$bobobobooobobboo$obbbboobbbbooooo$bobobobbboooobob! Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 07b5a04207 EDIT: and hot on the heels of the previous one, here's another, found by doctroid: x = 24, y = 10, rule = B3/S239b2o$9b3o$2o9b2obo$2o9bo2bo$11b2obo$9b3o7b2o$9b2o8bobo$21bo$21bobo$22b2o!

Sample soup (object's fully formed by genreation 1123):

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S232o2b3o3b3o2bo$7b2obo4bo$3obob2o3bobobo$b3o3bob2o3b2o$b2o2b4ob3o$2bo4bobo3b2o$bo3bob2o2bob3o$2ob2obo2bo2b4o$o2b2obob3obo2bo$2obobobobob3obo$4b2o2b3obobo$2obo3bo3b5o$ob2o2bob2obo2b2o$ob2o2bobob2ob2o$o3bobo2b2o3b2o$2obo5b2o3bo! Haul: https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s2 ... 77e602a997 If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1025 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results Simon Rawles found Life's first naturally-occurring 37-cell still life: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xs ... 2543/b3s23 Also, a symmetric Longlife (B345/S5) soup yielded the first (to my knowledge) period 1000 oscillator in the Catagolue: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... 221/b345s5 I think this is the highest period an oscillator can have while still being detected properly and not declared pathological by apgsearch (right?). If you speak, your speech must be better than your silence would have been. — Arabian proverb Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 1025 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results Reaction which produces aforementioned 37-cell SL: x = 13, y = 12, rule = B3/S23ob3o$o$o$2bo$2bo$3bo$4bo6bo$11bo$3bo8bo$2bobo5b2o$3bo5bo$9b2o!
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### Re: Soup search results

Stop the presses, the first spaceship that's not a *WSS (or flotilla) just appeared in a C1 soup -- the Coe ship.

From this haul, submitted by Calcyman himself.

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### Re: Soup search results

P. S. Here is a simple seed:
x = 29, y = 40, rule = B3/S2327b2o$27b2o3$19b2o$19b2o5$4bo$4bo$4bo3$15b2o$15b2o8$o$obo$3o$2bo4$6bo$6bo$6bo2$2b3o3b3o2$6bo$6bo\$6bo!
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Oh my god! Congratulations!!!
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I'm shaking.
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### Re: Soup search results

Very cool! I guess it's not too surprising, since the Coe ship is almost a 2-ship flotilla.
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### Re: Soup search results

There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary and those who don't.

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xs39, by far
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