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Re: Soup search results
Posted: September 30th, 2017, 5:31 pm
by Apple Bottom
This time I checked jslife-osc-supplement (and jslife, and pentadecathlon.com, and the wiki, and Mark Niemiec's Life page...), but didn't find
this xp6 that recently showed up in C4_4. Does anyone recognize it, or is it a new object?
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#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp6_y3ce53zggxg8ud95uc4o0cs8gz12760346fkimf21x11zy5oke6/b3s23
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
9b2o$8bobo$7b3o$7b2o$$8b3o$7bo3bo$7b2ob4o2b2o$6b4ob2obob3o$2o3bobo3bo2b
o2bobo$obo2bo2bo3bobo3b2o$b3obob2ob4o$2b2o2b4ob2o$8bo3bo$9b3o$$11b2o$10b
3o$9bobo$9b2o!
Soup:
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#C xp6_y3ce53zggxg8ud95uc4o0cs8gz12760346fkimf21x11zy5oke6
#C C4_4 sample soup 1 of 1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp6_y3ce53zggxg8ud95uc4o0cs8gz12760346fkimf21x11zy5oke6/b3s23/C4_4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_4/m_s3xePVVyiKui7842518/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_4/bcbb99049468b8bfeb04844e1d5fe29e
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oooooobobbbbboboobbobbbooobbbboo$
ooboboooooboboobbbooboooooobbooo$
boobobobobboboobbobbobbbbboboobo$
bboobbobobbbbbobobobbooooboooboo$
bbbooobobobbbobbbobooobboooobobo$
boooooobboboobobobboboobbboobboo$
oobbobbobooboooooobooboobbobooob$
ooboobboobbbboobboobobbboobobboo$
oobobbobbbooobbbobbobobbobbbooob$
boboboobbbbboooobbbobobbbooobbob$
bobooobbooooobbbbooboobobobbbbbb$
bboboboobboobobboooboobobbobboob$
oobboooboobbbooboobbboooboobbbbb$
bobobbbobboobboboobooboboobobooo$
bboboboobboooooooooobbobooobooob$
obboboobobboooobbobbbbobbobbbbbo$
obbbbbobbobbbbobboooobboboobobbo$
booobooobobboooooooooobboobobobb$
oooboboobobooboobobboobbobbbobob$
bbbbboobooobbbooboobbboobooobboo$
boobbobboboobooobboboobboobobobb$
bbbbbbobobooboobbbbooooobbooobob$
bobbooobbbobobbboooobbbbboobobob$
booobbbobbobobbobbbooobbbobboboo$
oobboboobbboboobboobbbboobbooboo$
booobobbooboobooooooboobobbobboo$
oobboobbboobobboboboobobboooooob$
oboboooobbooobobbbobbbobobooobbb$
ooboooboooobbobobobbbbbobobboobb$
oboobobbbbbobbobboobobboboboboob$
ooobbooooooboobbbooboboooooboboo$
oobbbbooobbbobboobobbbbboboooooo!
Haul:
here (Apple Bottom)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 1st, 2017, 6:25 am
by muzik
It doesn't seem to be in DRH_oscillators either (assuming you haven't checked that), so it might be promising.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 6:12 am
by Apple Bottom
56P27 just showed up in C4_4 -- the
first xp27 in B3/S23 on Catagolue:
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#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp27_y9330gzyb1789azy08q987yfooz33yfs2ib2zy6ai2sgzy910oo/b3s23
x = 30, y = 30, rule = B3/S23
13b2o$13b2o3$16bo$15b2obo$16bo2bo$16bo$17b3o$$6bobo$5bo2bo$8bo$4b4o20b2o$
5bo22b2o$2o22bo$2o20b4o$21bo$21bo2bo$21bobo$$10b3o$13bo$10bo2bo$11bob2o$
13bo3$15b2o$15b2o!
Soup:
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#C xp27_y9330gzyb1789azy08q987yfooz33yfs2ib2zy6ai2sgzy910oo
#C C4_4 sample soup 1 of 1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp27_y9330gzyb1789azy08q987yfooz33yfs2ib2zy6ai2sgzy910oo/b3s23/C4_4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C4_4/m_vd8KK4YQKXCK3770756/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C4_4/d1a8f30e80ff5491e9e960d375fdf2b3
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
bobbobbbobboobooobbbbbooobobobob$
ooobbbbbbobbobbbbbbobobobboooboo$
bbobboobooobboooboobooooobooooob$
oooboobbbbooooooobooobboobbbbbbb$
boobobobobboboboboooboboooooobbo$
ooobooobboooobbboobooboobooboobb$
bbbboobboboboooooobbbooobboobobb$
obooobbobbooboobboooboobobbbbbbb$
oooooooboobobbbbooboobbobobobobo$
obobbooobobobboboooobboobbobboob$
booboboobbbbbobobbbbbbbboooboobb$
bboobobbobbooboboobbobooobooobbo$
bobooobooobbobobobooobbbbooboboo$
bbooobbobobbooooboobbobboobooobb$
bboboooooobobobboboooboboobboobo$
obboboobooboobooobobbobbbobooobo$
obooobobbbobboboooboobooboobobbo$
oboobboobobooobobboboboooooobobb$
bboooboobbobbooboooobbobobbooobb$
ooboboobbbbooobobobobbooobooobob$
obbooobooobobbooboboobbobboboobb$
bboobooobbbbbbbbobobbbbbooboboob$
boobbobboobboooobobbobobooobbobo$
obobobobobbooboobbbboboobooooooo$
bbbbbbboboobooobbooboobbobbooobo$
bboboobbooobbboooooobobobboobbbb$
bboobooboobooboobbboooobbooobooo$
obboooooobobooobobobobboboboboob$
bbbbbbboobbooobooooooobbbboobooo$
boooooboooooboobooobboooboobbobb$
oobooobbobobobbbbbbobbobbbbbbooo$
bobobobooobbbbboooboobbobbbobbob!
Haul:
here (Apple Bottom)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 2nd, 2017, 12:56 pm
by muzik
Certainly took its time - I was well expecting it to turn up earlier.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 7th, 2017, 5:56 am
by Apple Bottom
A
p60 toadflipper showed up in C2_4:
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#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp60_75777757zx8oogzzw75777757/b3s23
x = 10, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
8o$ob4obo$8o6$3b3o$4b3o6$2b8o$2bob4obo$2b8o!
Soup:
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#C xp60_75777757zx8oogzzw75777757
#C C2_4 sample soup 1 of 1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp60_75777757zx8oogzzw75777757/b3s23/C2_4
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/C2_4/m_PpfELpDWWiqQ3804609/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/C2_4/f4182397a458924e2a8dfd2bc40d08f1
x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23
oobbbboooooooobobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbooboobbobbbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obobboobboooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bobooobooobobboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbboobooobobboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obooboobboooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbboobobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
obboobobooobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobobbooboobbbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
boobbooobbbbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobboooooobobooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobobbbobobbboobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbboobbbbboobbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbobboobbooooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
oobbbboooboooooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bobbbbobobbbbbobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbbbbobobbbbob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooooobooobbbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbooooooobboobbobb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboobbbbboobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbbobobbboboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboboooooobboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbbbooobboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbbooboobboboob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobboooboboobbo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooboboobbboo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooooobbooboobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobboboooboobbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboobbobooobooobob$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboooooobboobbobo$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbobbbobbooboobbbb$
bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbboboooooooobbbboo!
Not sure who found this one, the haul's gone, but it wasn't me.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 13th, 2017, 4:57 pm
by Apple Bottom
A second copy of
Rich's p16:
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#C xp16_om999e0e999mozx8kc0ck8
#C D2_+1 sample soup 2 of 2
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp16_om999e0e999mozx8kc0ck8/b3s23/D2_+1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/D2_+1/m_xRMMjgUpExws5621597/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/D2_+1/9cfdc0bc298e0d8fac97ced1ae37e39c
x = 16, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
obbbbobooobbbbob$
bboobobobbbobbbb$
oooboboooobbobob$
bobbbbbbbbbbobbo$
ooboobooobooobob$
boobbobooooooobb$
obooooooobbooobo$
bobbbbbbbobboboo$
bbboboooboobbbob$
bbbbooboooboobbb$
obbobbbobboobbbb$
bbbbobbboobbboob$
oooobooobbobbobb$
bbbbbooooboobobb$
booobooboobboooo$
bbboboobboobooob$
booobooboobboooo$
bbbbbooooboobobb$
oooobooobbobbobb$
bbbbobbboobbboob$
obbobbbobboobbbb$
bbbbooboooboobbb$
bbboboooboobbbob$
bobbbbbbbobboboo$
obooooooobbooobo$
boobbobooooooobb$
ooboobooobooobob$
bobbbbbbbbbbobbo$
oooboboooobbobob$
bboobobobbbobbbb$
obbbbobooobbbbob!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 13th, 2017, 4:59 pm
by muzik
If only we got an option to generate soups that were gutter from the very start, then we'd probably get a lot more of these.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 24th, 2017, 6:32 am
by Apple Bottom
Nice xp6 in D4_+1:
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#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp6_x25a404a52z70207nxn70207zx252101252/b3s23
x = 15, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
4bo5bo$3bobo3bobo$4bobobobo$5bo3bo$$o3b2o3b2o3bo$obob2o3b2obobo$o3b2o3b
2o3bo$$5bo3bo$4bobobobo$3bobo3bobo$4bo5bo!
Soup:
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#C xp6_x25a404a52z70207nxn70207zx252101252
#C D4_+1 sample soup 1 of 1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp6_x25a404a52z70207nxn70207zx252101252/b3s23/D4_+1
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/hashsoup/D4_+1/m_eeUaeunpjTAa1690965/b3s23
#C https://catagolue.appspot.com/haul/b3s23/D4_+1/cbaa7b9b6d98da60d42e4c7df80c4674
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B3/S23
oobboooboooobobbboboooobooobboo$
bboboboooobooobbboooboooobobobb$
obboobbbooobbbbbbbbbooobbboobbo$
bbobooboboobobbobbobooboboobobb$
oboooobooboobobbboboobooboooobo$
oobbbbobooboooboboooboobobbbboo$
boooboboooobobbbbboboooobobooob$
oobbboobbooooobobooooobboobbboo$
oobbbbbobbooobbbbbooobbobbbbboo$
bobbooobbooboobobooboobbooobbob$
oooobobobbobobooobobobboboboooo$
obboobobooobobbbbboboooboboobbo$
boboooobbobbobbbbbobbobboooobob$
obbboobboobbbooboobbboobboobbbo$
bbbbobbobobboobbboobbobobbobbbb$
oobbbobbbooboboboboboobbbobbboo$
bbbbobbobobboobbboobbobobbobbbb$
obbboobboobbbooboobbboobboobbbo$
boboooobbobbobbbbbobbobboooobob$
obboobobooobobbbbboboooboboobbo$
oooobobobbobobooobobobboboboooo$
bobbooobbooboobobooboobbooobbob$
oobbbbbobbooobbbbbooobbobbbbboo$
oobbboobbooooobobooooobboobbboo$
boooboboooobobbbbboboooobobooob$
oobbbbobooboooboboooboobobbbboo$
oboooobooboobobbboboobooboooobo$
bbobooboboobobbobbobooboboobobb$
obboobbbooobbbbbbbbbooobbboobbo$
bboboboooobooobbboooboooobobobb$
oobboooboooobobbboboooobooobboo!
Haul:
here (Apple Bottom)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 28th, 2017, 9:50 am
by Scorbie
Apple Bottom wrote:Nice xp6 in D4_+1:
Nice! This is a variant of
T-nosed p6
Oh you knew that:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp ... hw11/b3s23
Re: Soup search results
Posted: October 28th, 2017, 6:44 pm
by Apple Bottom
I'm notoriously bad at recognizing oscillators, in fact just about anything, so I didn't realize (though I had a feeling it must've been known). Thanks for the pointer!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: November 11th, 2017, 7:32 pm
by Apple Bottom
One of the last two remaining 14-bit still lifes has appeared from a C1 soup:
xs14_31248ge123:
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobooooboooooooo$
bbbooooobooboboo$
bboobobbboobbboo$
oboooobbbobboobb$
bbbboooboboobobo$
oobbboooobbobbob$
obbooobbbbobobbb$
bboobbbboobboobb$
bboobbbbbooooobb$
obooboobboobobbb$
obbbobbbooooobob$
ooboobbobbbobooo$
bobbbboobooboboo$
bboboooobobbobbb$
ooobobooobbboboo$
ooooobooooobbbob!
Haul:
here (benetnasch85).
This was
previously seen in D8_1.
The only remaining xs14 not yet seen in C1 is now
xs14_4ai3zwo9a4.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: November 11th, 2017, 7:53 pm
by dvgrn
Apple Bottom wrote:One of the last two remaining 14-bit still lifes has appeared from a C1 soup:
xs14_31248ge123...
About time! And it takes its time showing up in that soup, doesn't it? Fully formed at T=4305.
Here's LifeViewer running it to T=4304. If you haven't run the soup yet, see if you can pick out where this still life
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x = 5, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$4bo$3bo$2bo$bo$o$b3o$4bo$3bo$3b2o!
#C [[ THUMBNAIL ]]
is going to show up on the next tick. The above is the correct orientation.
Code:
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bobooooboooooooo$bbbooooobooboboo$bboobobbboobbboo$oboooobbbobboobb$
bbbboooboboobobo$oobbboooobbobbob$obbooobbbbobobbb$bboobbbboobboobb$
bboobbbbbooooobb$obooboobboobobbb$obbbobbbooooobob$ooboobbobbbobooo$
bobbbboobooboboo$bboboooobobbobbb$ooobobooobbboboo$ooooobooooobbbob!
#C [[ AUTOSTART ZOOM 3.5 STEP 50 STOP 4304 ]]
Re: Soup search results
Posted: November 25th, 2017, 8:16 am
by Saka
My very first
first discovery that's listed on my page (There was another one but I lost it. It used to be in my signature, can anybody find it?).
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
2o2bob3o$obobo2b3obo3bo$2o2b2obo4bobo$b2o2bobob3o$3o2bobo$bo2bob3ob5o$
b3o3bob3ob3o$bo2b3obobob2obo$4bob5ob2obo$2ob5ob2ob3o$bob5obo3b3o$2bobo
3b7o$b2o2b2obo2b5o$2obobob3obo2b2o$obo2b2ob2o3b3o$ob2obobo2bob2obo!
It's
xs18_0ggs2552zpic. I like the apgcode.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: December 3rd, 2017, 8:34 pm
by dani
This still life has only occured in g3b3s23. Here is the soup:
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = 23/3/3
obbobbbobbobbobb$
bbobbbbobooooooo$
obobboooooboobbb$
bbobbobbbbbbbobb$
ooobobooboooboob$
oboboobbbbbbbooo$
bboobobooobboooo$
booobbobooboobob$
bbobooooooobobbb$
bobbboobbobooobo$
oobbbobboobobobb$
oboooobbobbobbbb$
oooboboboobbbbbb$
oobbbboobbbboobb$
boboobobobbbobbb$
oobbobbobbbobbbb!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: December 13th, 2017, 1:20 am
by Saka
I found a maybe-synthable thing from one of my soups
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
bob2o3bob3o$2b3o2b2o2bobo$4ob2o2b2o2b2o$obob2o3bobo2bo$3b4obobo4bo$ob
2o2bobob2o2bo$b2ob8o$2ob2o2b4obob2o$b4o2b4ob2obo$b3obobob4o$o3b2ob2ob
2ob3o$3b2ob4o$3ob6obo2bo$obo3b2o2b2ob2o$obo4b3o3b3o$3b2ob2o3bob2o!
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x = 7, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5b2o2$3b4o$3bob2o$6bo$6bo$4b2o$2b3obo$2b4o$2bo$obo3bo$3b2obo!
Maybe gen 3 or 5
There's also this other SL
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
6b4obo2b2o$2obo7b2o2bo$bobo2b2ob3o$obob5obo2bo$bobob3o3bobobo$2obo2b3o
bo2b2o$4o3bo2bobob2o$5o3bob2o$2o2bobob2o2bobo$o5bobo2b3o$3bo2b4ob4o$3o
b4obob2o2bo$7b2obo2bo$o4bo3bob2obo$2b2o4b2o5bo$2ob3obobo4b2o!
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x = 8, y = 9, rule = B3/S23
6bo$5b3o$o3bob2o$o3bobo$bo2b2o$bob3o$o2b2o$bo2bo$2bo!
Gen 3 or 4?
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 7:52 am
by muzik
Found in a haul that never got committed:
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x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23
obooooboooooooob$
oboobbobbooooooo$
oboooobbboobbobo$
bbbbobobbobobobo$
ooboooooobbooooo$
ooooooooooooobbb$
ooobobboobbooboo$
oobbbobbobbooobo$
booooobbbbooboob$
bobbooobbbboobbo$
obboobboobbobooo$
obboboooobobbbbb$
bbobbobbboboboob$
obobbbooobbooooo$
ooboobobbboobooo$
ooobbbbbooooobbo!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 8:31 am
by gmc_nxtman
Seven gliders:
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x = 37, y = 36, rule = LifeHistory
14.ABA$14.B2AB$15.A3B$16.4B$17.4B$18.4B2.D2BD$5.BA4.B7.3B3D2B3D$4.ABA
B2.3B7.BD8BD$5.2A6B8.B3D2B3D$5.9B5.5B4DB$4.11B4.10B$3.6BA6B.B.5B2D4B$
3.7BA12BD2BD5B$2.6B3A13B2D7B$3.9BA9B.9B$4.8B2A7B2.7B$5.6BABA7B3.6B$7.
13B4.7B$7.3B.9B5.2B.4B$6.4B.10B8.4B$5.4B3.9B9.4B$4.4B5.8B10.4B$3.4B6.
6B13.4B$2.4B9.4B14.B3A$.A3B11.4B14.A2B$B2AB13.4B14.A$ABA15.4B$19.4B$
20.4B$21.4B$22.4B$23.4B$24.4B$25.3BA$26.B2AB$27.ABA!
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 11:29 am
by hkoenig
Time to ask-- How does one convert "LifeHistory" into simple RLE format? At a minimum, the Gliders layer.
With Safari, the LifeViewer Ctrl-C gives me "Show in Viewer" when I paste.
If there's a way in Golly to extract it, it's hidden well.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 11:56 am
by dvgrn
hkoenig wrote:Time to ask-- How does one convert "LifeHistory" into simple RLE format? At a minimum, the Gliders layer.
With Safari, the LifeViewer Ctrl-C gives me "Show in Viewer" when I paste.
If there's a way in Golly to extract it, it's hidden well.
There's a new addition to Golly 3.x -- not well advertised, partly because people who upgraded and kept their GollyPrefs won't get the default shortcuts.
On a new instance of Golly 3.x, Alt+H (Windows/Linux) or I believe Option+H (Mac) will convert a B3/S23 pattern to LifeHistory, and Alt+J / Option+J will convert LifeHistory back to plain-vanilla Life.
These shortcuts are just pointers to script files --
toLifeHistory.lua and
toLife.lua in the Scripts/Lua folder.
For older versions of Golly, there are Python versions of the scripts floating around, e.g., in the LifeHistory archive in the Rule Table Repository. But the old toLife.py is much slower for large patterns... and it's worth moving up to Golly 3.x anyway.
The Ctrl+C problem with LifeViewer is one I used to see also. I thought it had been fixed in recent builds, but I just tried it in Chrome and got the same "Show in Viewer" string. From way back, the way people are trained to get the RLE is to click the "Select All" link in the code box, then Ctrl+C. (That got broken in a recent version of Chrome, too, but it's back in working order again now.)
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 12:15 pm
by gameoflifemaniac
dvgrn wrote:hkoenig wrote:Time to ask-- How does one convert "LifeHistory" into simple RLE format? At a minimum, the Gliders layer.
With Safari, the LifeViewer Ctrl-C gives me "Show in Viewer" when I paste.
If there's a way in Golly to extract it, it's hidden well.
There's a new addition to Golly 3.x -- not well advertised, partly because people who upgraded and kept their GollyPrefs won't get the default shortcuts.
On a new instance of Golly 3.x, Alt+H (Windows/Linux) or I believe Option+H (Mac) will convert a B3/S23 pattern to LifeHistory, and Alt+J / Option+J will convert LifeHistory back to plain-vanilla Life.
These shortcuts are just pointers to script files --
toLifeHistory.lua and
toLife.lua in the Scripts/Lua folder.
For older versions of Golly, there are Python versions of the scripts floating around, e.g., in the LifeHistory archive in the Rule Table Repository. But the old toLife.py is much slower for large patterns... and it's worth moving up to Golly 3.x anyway.
Alt-H/Alt-J doesn't work for me. I'm on Windows 10.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 12:21 pm
by dvgrn
gameoflifemaniac wrote:Alt-H/Alt-J doesn't work for me. I'm on Windows 10.
If you had an old GollyPrefs on your system from a 2.x version of Golly, then that's what will happen -- Golly won't overwrite your existing preferences with new default ones. (But I seem to remember you're familiar with that).
You can make Alt+H and Alt+J work, very easily. Go to File > Preferences > Keyboard, type Alt+H, and choose the file
Scripts/Lua/toLifeHistory.lua ... then do the same for Alt+J, choosing
toLife.lua .
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 12:43 pm
by mniemiec
hkoenig wrote:Time to ask-- How does one convert "LifeHistory" into simple RLE format? At a minimum, the Gliders layer.
dvgrn wrote:There's a new addition to Golly 3.x -- not well advertised, partly because people who upgraded and kept their GollyPrefs won't get the default shortcuts. ...
I haven't yet upgraded to Golly 3.x, so I can't try that yet. One thing I have done in the past is to manually switch the rule from LifeHistory to Life, but the results were rarely usable (i.e. the shadow cells turned into living cells). What I usually do is to take the LifeHistory RLE, paste it into Notepad, and then do manual global replaces of A (and occasionally some other letters) by o, all other letters (typically B) by b, and . by b. As this only takes a few seconds, I don't feel it overly cumbersome.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 1:09 pm
by dvgrn
mniemiec wrote:dvgrn wrote:There's a new addition to Golly 3.x -- not well advertised, partly because people who upgraded and kept their GollyPrefs won't get the default shortcuts. ...
I haven't yet upgraded to Golly 3.x, so I can't try that yet. One thing I have done in the past is to manually switch the rule from LifeHistory to Life, but the results were rarely usable (i.e. the shadow cells turned into living cells). What I usually do is to take the LifeHistory RLE, paste it into Notepad, and then do manual global replaces of A (and occasionally some other letters) by o, all other letters (typically B) by b, and . by b. As this only takes a few seconds, I don't feel it overly cumbersome.
Yeah, I do the same thing whenever I'm stuck on some foreign computer and just want to clean up one LifeHistory file. But that's not really something to recommend to people who aren't entirely comfortable with the details of RLE format.
It also only takes a few seconds to set up a keyboard shortcut to point to a LifeHistory-to-Life conversion script -- and then you have really instantaneous cleanup available in Golly, even if it's an older version. Here's a
good Python LifeHistory-to-Life script by simsim314 -- handles all the marked states and gray cells correctly.
In the other direction, if you want a keyboard shortcut, you can actually set up the key combination of your choice to open a rule file directly, like
Rules/Life.rule.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 2:51 pm
by hkoenig
Okay. Setting up the keyboard equivalent worked.
I haven't yet upgraded to Golly 3.x, so I can't try that yet. One thing I have done in the past is to manually switch the rule from LifeHistory to Life, but the results were rarely usable (i.e. the shadow cells turned into living cells). What I usually do is to take the LifeHistory RLE, paste it into Notepad, and then do manual global replaces of A (and occasionally some other letters) by o, all other letters (typically B) by b, and . by b. As this only takes a few seconds, I don't feel it overly cumbersome.
Thanks. I couldn't even find a description of the encoding, either. Now at least I should have enough information that I should be able to add this converter as yet another feature in my LifeUtils app.
Re: Soup search results
Posted: January 12th, 2018, 3:18 pm
by dvgrn
hkoenig wrote:I couldn't even find a description of the encoding, either. Now at least I should have enough information that I should be able to add this converter as yet another feature in my LifeUtils app.
A complete summary of multistate RLE format is in
Golly's "File Formats" help document.
It's straightforward-ish for rules with up to 24 states, but then gets a little arbitrary after that.
For two-state rules, a "b" represents an off cell, and a "o" represents an on cell. For rules with more than two states, a "." represents a zero state; states 1..24 are represented by "A".."X", states 25..48 by "pA".."pX", states 49..72 by "qA".."qX", and on up to states 241..255 represented by "yA".."yO". The pattern reader is flexible and will permit "b" and "." interchangeably and "o" and "A" interchangeably.