## Soup search results

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### Re: Soup search results

AbhpzTa wrote:
BlinkerSpawn wrote:"22-bit p4 oscillator #2" in 14 gliders:
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10 gliders:
x = 24, y = 24, rule = B3/S2311bo$12bo$10b3o$16bo$15bo$15b3o2$10bo$9bo$9b3o$6bo14bobo$bo5b2o7b2o3b2o$b2o3b2o7b2o5bo$obo14bo$12b3o$14bo$13bo2$6b3o$8bo$7bo$11b3o$11bo$12bo! Nice! Too busy replacing other sparks to check that possibility, I guess. Flipping one of the halves to give mirror symmetry gives "22-bit p4 oscillator #1", and now with this reduction I'm sure there's a way to get there in less than 16 gliders. EDIT: "22-bit p4 oscillator #3" in 10G: x = 65, y = 22, rule = B3/S2344bo16bo$45b2o12b2o$44b2o14b2o3$8bo9bo$7bo11bo$7b3o7b3o3$31bo$30bobo$30b2o16bo8bo$47bobo6bobo$42b2o4b2o6b2o4b2o$41bobo18bobo$2o23b2o16bo18bo$b2o21b2o$o25bo$43b2o16b2o$44b2o14b2o$43bo18bo!
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### Re: Soup search results

mniemiec wrote:
Kayzan wrote:If there is a component to shorten a barberpole ...

Extrementhusiast wrote:I found a way, although it isn't applicable here: ...

Wow! Very impressive! I would not have expected such a converter to have been found for a long time (and certainly not this cheaply). One of the gliders can be moved to make this less obtrusive, and allow its use in many situations where one side the modified pattern protrudes beyond the lane the barber-pole is in on one side, but not the other.

A more expensive variant that allows protrusion on both sides:
x = 22, y = 28, rule = B3/S2317bobo$17b2o$18bo2$8bo12bo$9bo7bob2o$7b3o5bobo2b2o$16b2o2$13b2o$4bo8bobo$5bo$3b3o9bobo$8b2o8bo$9b2o6b2o$8bo3$8b3o$8bo2bo$8bo$8bo$9bobo3$2o$b2o$o! I Like My Heisenburps! (and others) Extrementhusiast Posts: 1669 Joined: June 16th, 2009, 11:24 pm Location: USA ### Re: Soup search results AbhpzTa wrote:Reduced the fourth by 1 (trivially): ... Oops! Thanks for catching this. I pasted in the "add left-pointing ship from above" template instead of the "add left-pointing ship from above w/boat bit" template that I normally use in such cases. When doing an assembly-line modification of around 150 syntheses in a row, I frequently make minor slip-ups. I catch most of them when they don't run correctly. Unfortunately, running a synthesis to completion assures correctness, but not optimum path - in much the same way that a spell checker doesn't assure proper grammar, or a grammar checker doesn't assure proper semantics. EDIT: Goldtiger997 wrote:I mistakenly thought I found this p2 16-bit oscillator in the list above and found a synthesis for it: It is quite a cheap synthesis so I'll post it anyway. What was the previously known synthesis? Here it is 12 gliders: ... AbhpzTa wrote:10G: ... Extrementhusiast posted an 8-glider synthesis on 2015-07-04. BlinkerSpawn wrote:Flipping one of the halves to give mirror symmetry gives "22-bit p4 oscillator #1" Here it is from 10 gliders: x = 91, y = 17, rule = B3/S2353bobo$53boo$49bo4bo3bo$50bo7bobo$48b3o7boo24boo$43boo20boo13b10o$30bo11bobo15bo4bobo$30bo13bo15bo4bo16boobboo$30bo29bo18b3o6b3o$21boo28boo$21boo28boo$4boo6boo41bo$4bobo4boo42boo$4bo8bo40bobo$bo60bo$boo58boo$obo58bobo! mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results A switch-engine pair puffer with a period 13x the base period: x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23bobboboboboooooooooooobobobobbob$obboboooobbbboobboobbbboooobobbo$bbobbooobobboobooboobbobooobbobb$bobooboobbboooobboooobbbooboobob$obbobbbbboooobooooboooobbbbbobbo$boobboboobbboboooobobbboobobboob$oooobbooooobboobboobbooooobboooo$boooboooboboooboobooobobooobooob$oobbboobbbboobooooboobbbboobbboo$bboboboobboobobbbboboobboobobobb$obbbobobboobbobbbbobboobbobobbbo$obboobbooobbobobbobobbooobboobbo$obooooboobboobobboboobbooboooobo$oooobbooboobboobboobbooboobboooo$ooboooobobboooboobooobbobooooboo$obobooboobbbbbobbobbbbbooboobobo$obobooboobbbbbobbobbbbbooboobobo$ooboooobobboooboobooobbobooooboo$oooobbooboobboobboobbooboobboooo$obooooboobboobobboboobbooboooobo$obboobbooobbobobbobobbooobboobbo$obbbobobboobbobbbbobboobbobobbbo$bboboboobboobobbbboboobboobobobb$oobbboobbbboobooooboobbbboobbboo$boooboooboboooboobooobobooobooob$oooobbooooobboobboobbooooobboooo$boobboboobbboboooobobbboobobboob$obbobbbbboooobooooboooobbbbbobbo$bobooboobbboooobboooobbbooboobob$bbobbooobobboobooboobbobooobbobb$obboboooobbbboobboobbbboooobobbo$bobboboboboooooooooooobobobobbob!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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### Re: Soup search results

A for awesome wrote:A switch-engine pair puffer with a period 13x the base period:

Cool! That's this one, right?

I saw that one on April 19 2016 in D4_x4 myself, and on May 12 2016 in D4_x1.

$grep yl1248_2_630_ad33aa0a7709f23363d301fb4f35b67a */log.*D4_x1/log.1463039666.m_beXVHEWTGpaf.txt:yl1248_2_630_ad33aa0a7709f23363d301fb4f35b67a 2D4_x1/log.1463039666.m_beXVHEWTGpaf.txt:yl1248_2_630_ad33aa0a7709f23363d301fb4f35b67a 2893524D4_x4/log.1461106992.m_cqBErhDZzaz6.txt:yl1248_2_630_ad33aa0a7709f23363d301fb4f35b67a 2D4_x4/log.1461106992.m_cqBErhDZzaz6.txt:yl1248_2_630_ad33aa0a7709f23363d301fb4f35b67a 6934651$
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### Re: Soup search results

Kayzan wrote:Another "sparse" p2 has appeared: ... Proof of concept synthesis, but not a practical one: ...

This yields this 24-glider un-optimized brute-force synthesis. I'm sure the cleanup can be greatly improved.
(It also trivially yields the two related 17- and 18-bit ones from 28 and 32 respectively via pole-extension).
x = 392, y = 287, rule = B3/S23300boo$301boo$300bo77$278bo$278bobo$253bo24boo$196bo57bo21bo$195bobo54b3o20bobo$187boo5bobo70boo5bobo$187boo5boo71boo5boo$172boo78boo$171bobo8boo67bobo8boo$166b3o3bo8bobbo61b3o3bo8bobbo$182boo78boobboo$266bobo$222bo43bo$223bo$3bo217b3o$4boo139boo78boo$3boo140boo78boo10bo$235bobo$bo26bo59bo147boo$boo25bo59bo$obo25bo59bo69boo78boo$158boo78boo$$349bo14bo84bobo84boo78boo48boo29bobo6boo13bo85boo85boo78boo48boo30boo6boo13b3o14bo59bo9bo29bobo57bobo10b3o16bobo57bobo245bo10bo19bo59bo10boo232bobo11bo73bo14boo234boo15boo86boo14bo66bo4boo3boo31bo36bo4boo3boo38bo4boo3boo28bo4boo3booboo85boo81bobo3boo3boo29bobo35bobo3boo3boo37bobo3boo3boo27bobo3boo3boo3bo169boo40boo36boo48boo38boo391boo71boo3bo74boo3bo44boo3bo34boo3bo44boo3bo87bobboo72bo4bo74bo4bo44bo4bo34bo4bo44bo4bo87boo3bo40boo30bobobbo42boo30bobobbo44bobobbo34bobobbo44bobobbo86bobo44boo78boo164b3obobo73b3obobo20bo22b3obobo33b3obobo43b3obobo171bo39boo38bo19bobo27bo39bo49bo170boo38bobo37boo19boo27boo38boo48boo212bo5171b3o4bo5bo66b3o4bo5bo178bo5bo73bo5bo178bo5bo73bo5bo$$180b3o77b3o$147boo78boo$146bobbo5boo69bobbo5boo$147bobo5bobo69bobo5bobo$144bo3boboo4bo67bo3boboo4bo$143bobo3bobbo70bobo3bobbo$143bobbo3bobo70bobbo3bobo$144boobo3bo72boobo3bo$146bobo77bobo$146bobbo76bobbo$147boo22b3o53boo22b3o$$169bo5bo73bo5bo169bo5bo73bo5bo169bo5bo73bo5bo257b3o171b3o77b3o3bo258bo1134bo4bobo4boo21343bo341bobo342boo! mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results x = 19, y = 19, rule = B3/S238b2o8bobo2b3o3bobo5bo9bo6bo16bo4b2o13b3oo2bo11bo2bo3o13b2o42bo2bo6bo2bo5bobo3b3o8bobo9b2o! edit: x = 40, y = 40, rule = B3/S23bboooobbbbobbobbooobboooobbbbbboobbbbbboooobbooobbobbobbbboooobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb! x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S23ob2o4bob3o2b2o2b3obo4b2obo4b2obobobobob2obobobobob2oo3b3o5bo2b2o2bo5b3o3boo2b2o2bob2o2bob2obo2b2obo2b2o2bob5o2bobobob4obobobo2b5ob2ob2o5bo3b2o3bo5b2ob2o2bo5b4o2b4o2b4o5bobobo3b2o5b4o5b2o3boboo3bob2obob10obob2obo3bobobo2bob3o3b4o3b3obo2boboo2b2obo2b5ob2ob5o2bob2o2bo2o3b2obobob2o4b2obobob2o3b2oobobo3bob3o2b2o2b3obo3bobobobobo4bob2o2bo2bo2b2obo4bobo4bob4o3b2o2b2o3b4obo11obo6bob11o11obo6bob11o4bob4o3b2o2b2o3b4obobobo4bob2o2bo2bo2b2obo4boboobobo3bob3o2b2o2b3obo3bobobo2o3b2obobob2o4b2obobob2o3b2oo2b2obo2b5ob2ob5o2bob2o2bobobo2bob3o3b4o3b3obo2boboo3bob2obob10obob2obo3bobobo3b2o5b4o5b2o3bobo2bo5b4o2b4o2b4o5bob2ob2o5bo3b2o3bo5b2ob2ob5o2bobobob4obobobo2b5oo2b2o2bob2o2bob2obo2b2obo2b2o2boo3b3o5bo2b2o2bo5b3o3bo4b2obobobobob2obobobobob2oob2o4bob3o2b2o2b3obo4b2obo! edit 2:(my apgsearch calls it octagon iv) x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S237b2o7b2o26b4o5bo4bo4bo6bo3bo8bo2obo8bob2o2obo8bob2o3bo8bo4bo6bo5bo4bo6b4o27b2o7b2o! x = 32, y = 32, rule = B3/S233ob2o3b3o3b2o3b3o3b2ob3o5o4b3o3b2o3b3o4b5o3ob2obo2bob2o4b2obo2bob2ob3obo2b7o2b2o2b2o2b7o2bo4o7b2obo2bob2o7b4oob2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2obo3bob5ob10ob5obo2b2o2bobob2o2b4o2b2obobo2b2o3bo2b3o14b3o2bo2obob2o7b4o7b2obob2o4o3bo3b4o2b4o3bo3b4o2o2bob2o2b5o2b5o2b2obo2b2o2bob3o3b3obo2bob3o3b3obo2b2o2bo3b2obo4bob2o3bo2b2o3b2ob2ob4o6b4ob2ob2o2o4b2obo5b2o5bob2o4b2o2o4b2obo5b2o5bob2o4b2o3b2ob2ob4o6b4ob2ob2o2b2o2bo3b2obo4bob2o3bo2b2o2bob3o3b3obo2bob3o3b3obo2o2bob2o2b5o2b5o2b2obo2b2o4o3bo3b4o2b4o3bo3b4o2obob2o7b4o7b2obob2o3bo2b3o14b3o2bo2b2o2bobob2o2b4o2b2obobo2b2o3bob5ob10ob5oboob2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2obo4o7b2obo2bob2o7b4obo2b7o2b2o2b2o2b7o2bo3ob2obo2bob2o4b2obo2bob2ob3o5o4b3o3b2o3b3o4b5o3ob2o3b3o3b2o3b3o3b2ob3o! x = 15, y = 36, rule = B38/S23-bo2bo3o1413bo12bo12b3o211bo12bo10b3o412b3o12bo13bo210bo8bobo9b2o6b2o5bobo7bo! 72c20e Posts: 52 Joined: June 10th, 2016, 5:52 am ### Re: Soup search results 72c20e wrote:... This can be made from 6 gliders. 72c20e wrote:edit: ... This is called Cross and can me made from 16 gliders. 72c20e wrote:edit 2:(my apgsearch calls it octagon iv) ... This can be made from 34 gliders. The last one is a traffic light, which can be made from just 2 gliders in many ways. mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results mniemiec wrote: 72c20e wrote:... This can be made from 6 gliders. 6G? Wow! x = 15, y = 36, rule = B38/S23-bo2bo3o1413bo12bo12b3o211bo12bo10b3o412b3o12bo13bo210bo8bobo9b2o6b2o5bobo7bo! 72c20e Posts: 52 Joined: June 10th, 2016, 5:52 am ### Re: Soup search results 72c20e wrote: mniemiec wrote: 72c20e wrote:... This can be made from 6 gliders. 6G? Wow! On page: http://codercontest.com/mniemiec/bits-lg.htm#p3-lg synthesis: http://codercontest.com/mniemiec/lg/36p3sd.rle This is erroneously labelled there as Snake Dance (which shares the same rotor). With this stator, it is actually called Snake Pit 2. mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results A rather interesting 33-cell SL: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bbbbbooooobooboboooboooboboooobobobobbooobbbobobbbbbobbbooboobbbobbbbbboobobboobobobobooobobbbbbooobbbbooobobooobobooboobooobbbbbobbbbooobbboboboobooooooobooobobboobboooobbbbbbboboobooobobbooobooboooooboooobbooobbbobbobobbbbooooboboooboobobbobobboobobboooo! x₁=ηx V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη) K=(Λu²)/2 Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)$$x_1=\eta xV^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$http://conwaylife.com/wiki/A_for_all Aidan F. Pierce A for awesome Posts: 1555 Joined: September 13th, 2014, 5:36 pm Location: 0x-1 ### Re: Soup search results Wow! [Well, it only scored a 19, but...] x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bbooobooboobboboobbooooooobbbbooboooooboobbobbobooobooooobooooobbbobbobobbooooboobbooboobboobbbooobobobbobbbbbobbobbbbooboooobooboooooooooobobbbooboobbbbbbbbooooobbobbbbobobbbbbbbbobbooooobbbbooobbbboobbbbobbbobbobobboooobobobobboooooboboboobbooobboboboboo! Life is hard. Deal with it. Pattern of the month (September 2017): #C [[ AUTOFIT ]]x = 7, y = 9, rule = B34tw/S232o2o4b2o6bo3bo2bo6bo4b2o2o2o! Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 383 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: (394234, -234231) ### Re: Soup search results A for awesome wrote:A rather interesting 33-cell SL: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bbbbbooooobooboboooboooboboooobobobobbooobbbobobbbbbobbbooboobbbobbbbbboobobboobobobobooobobbbbbooobbbbooobobooobobooboobooobbbbbobbbbooobbboboboobooooooobooobobboobboooobbbbbbboboobooobobbooobooboooooboooobbooobbbobbobobbbbooooboboooboobobbobobboobobboooo! This might shape up to be a nice synthesis, if we can get the middle part: x = 13, y = 18, rule = B3/S2311bo10bo10b3o36b3o44b5o4b2ob2o4b2ob2o25b3o5b3ob2o7b2oo2bo5bo2bob2o7b2o! EDIT: Oops! This is a related 17-bitter Life is hard. Deal with it. Pattern of the month (September 2017): #C [[ AUTOFIT ]]x = 7, y = 9, rule = B34tw/S232o2o4b2o6bo3bo2bo6bo4b2o2o2o! Hdjensofjfnen Posts: 383 Joined: March 15th, 2016, 6:41 pm Location: (394234, -234231) ### Re: Soup search results You mean this? x = 13, y = 21, rule = B3/S2311bo7bo3bo7bobo7b2o44b5o4b2ob2o4b2ob2o25b3o5b3ob2o7b2oo2bo5bo2bob2o7b2o26bo5bobo5bobo6bo! LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1592 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Soup search results A for awesome wrote:A rather interesting 33-cell SL: x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S23bbbbbooooobooboboooboooboboooobobobobbooobbbobobbbbbobbbooboobbbobbbbbboobobboobobobobooobobbbbbooobbbbooobobooobobooboobooobbbbbobbbbooobbboboboobooooooobooobobboobboooobbbbbbboboobooobobbooobooboooooboooobbooobbbobbobobbbbooooboboooboobobbobobboobobboooo! 13 gliders: x = 216, y = 39, rule = 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! Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) : 965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608). AbhpzTa Posts: 373 Joined: April 13th, 2016, 9:40 am Location: Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan ### Re: Soup search results Not a new object, but a fourth occurrence of 68P32.1 just.. uh, occurred in D4_+1. (This is one of my hauls. The first occurrence was also mine; the third's thunk's, I'm not sure about the second one, I only know that was not mine.) According to the LifeWiki, the best known synthesis uses 37 gliders. Can any of the following soups be used to improve this? Soup 1: x = 31, y = 31, rule = 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! Soup 2 (yields just the oscillator, no extra fluff): x = 31, y = 31, rule = 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! Soup 3 (takes a long time to form the oscillator, ~1200 gens): x = 31, y = 31, rule = 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! Soup 4 (new, takes 250+ generations to form the oscillator): x = 31, y = 31, rule = 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! Living proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 842 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results Well, it's a start: x = 84, y = 63, rule = B3/S232bo23boobo23bobob2o23b2o54bo19bo5b2o15b2o4b2o17b2o711b3ob3o11bo5bo41bo23bo12bo3bo42bo23bo60bo2bo15bo2bo60bo2bo15bo2bo61b3o15b3o264b2o3b2ob2o3b2o7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o41bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo41b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o964b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o41bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo41b2o3b2ob2o3b2o7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o61b3o15b3o60bo2bo15bo2bo60bo2bo15bo2bo59bo23bo59bo23bo12bo3bo11bo5bo11b3ob3o74b2o17b2o5b2o15b2o4bo19bo5b2o23b2oobo23bobo2bo23bo! LifeWiki: Like Wikipedia but with more spaceships. [citation needed] BlinkerSpawn Posts: 1592 Joined: November 8th, 2014, 8:48 pm Location: Getting a snacker from R-Bee's ### Re: Soup search results Apple Bottom wrote:According to the LifeWiki, the best known synthesis uses 37 gliders. The wiki is (or rather, was) outdated. Chris Cain posted a 24-glider synthesis here. -Matthias Merzenich Sokwe Moderator Posts: 1180 Joined: July 9th, 2009, 2:44 pm ### Re: Soup search results BlinkerSpawn wrote:Well, it's a start: x = 84, y = 63, rule = B3/S232bo23boobo23bobob2o23b2o54bo19bo5b2o15b2o4b2o17b2o711b3ob3o11bo5bo41bo23bo12bo3bo42bo23bo60bo2bo15bo2bo60bo2bo15bo2bo61b3o15b3o264b2o3b2ob2o3b2o7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o41bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo41b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o964b2o11b2o7b2o11b2o41bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo41b2o3b2ob2o3b2o7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o61b3o15b3o60bo2bo15bo2bo60bo2bo15bo2bo59bo23bo59bo23bo12bo3bo11bo5bo11b3ob3o74b2o17b2o5b2o15b2o4bo19bo5b2o23b2oobo23bobo2bo23bo! x = 31, y = 65, rule = B3/S232bo25boobo25bobob2o25b2o54bo21bo5b2o17b2o4b2o19b2o810b4o3b4o9bo3bo3bo3bo13bo3bo9bo2bo5bo2bo58b2o3b2ob2o3b2o7bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o11b2o108b2o11b2o7bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo8b2o3b2ob2o3b2o59bo2bo5bo2bo13bo3bo9bo3bo3bo3bo10b4o3b4o84b2o19b2o5b2o17b2o4bo21bo5b2o25b2oobo25bobo2bo25bo! or? x = 29, y = 63, rule = B3/S232bo23boobo23bobob2o23b2o54bo11bo5b2o10b2o4b2o10b2o711b3o9b3o11bo11bo12bo11bo67b2o3b2ob2o3b2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo7b2o11b2o107b2o11b2o6bo2bo2b2ob2o2bo2bo7b2o3b2ob2o3b2o612bo11bo11bo11bo11b3o9b3o74b2o10b2o5b2o10b2o4bo11bo5b2o23b2oobo23bobo2bo23bo! PHPBB12345 Posts: 393 Joined: August 5th, 2015, 11:55 pm ### Re: Soup search results BlinkerSpawn wrote:Well, it's a start... I really liked the looks of soups 3 and 4, too, but it would be hard to work them down to below 24 gliders, from what looks like 30+ cost: x = 137, y = 69, rule = 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! dvgrn Moderator Posts: 4253 Joined: May 17th, 2009, 11:00 pm Location: Madison, WI ### Re: Soup search results Sokwe wrote: Apple Bottom wrote:According to the LifeWiki, the best known synthesis uses 37 gliders. The wiki is (or rather, was) outdated. Chris Cain posted a 24-glider synthesis here. Oh, I didn't know! I'd also checked Mark Niemiec's site to be sure, but he also listed it as 37 gliders, so I assumed that really was the best. Living proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Catagolue: Apple Bottom • Life Wiki: Apple Bottom • Twitter: @_AppleBottom_ Proud member of the Pattern Raiders! Apple Bottom Posts: 842 Joined: July 27th, 2015, 2:06 pm ### Re: Soup search results A lightweight emulator stator variant came up in soup: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp4_2596o696zw6fvz4a961696/b3s23. This yields the following predecessor, which should hopefully not be too difficult to synthesize: x = 71, y = 24, rule = B3/S23bo44bobbo42bo3o42b3o358bo10bo57bobo8bobo11b3o3bo12bo3b3o20bobbobboobbobbo10bo5boo12boo5bo20boobb4obboo10bo4boo14boo4bo22b8o58boo8boo11bo4bo14bo4bo20bobbo6bobbo58boo8boo14boo16boo88boo28boo7bobo28bobo9bo28bo! EDIT: Synthesis from 29 gliders. This can probably be optimized, as it involves 4 R-pentominos, all of which are made sub-optimally, plus a kickback reaction: x = 211, y = 67, rule = B3/S23144bobo14bobo143bo20bo143bo20bo143bobbo14bobbo143b3o16b3o7121bobo60bobo122boo60boo122bo62bo7128bo50bo129bo48bo127b3o48b3o$$157bo8bobo$155boo9boo$156boo9bo$obo3bo$booboo$bo3boo$$123bo60bo4boo20boo28boo38boo23bobo32boo26bobo3bobo22bo29bo39bo23boo34bo25boo5bo19bo16bo12bo9bo29bo59bo26boo15bo12boo6bo31boo58boo41b3o20b3o19bo14bo44bo14bo85bobo12bobo42bobo12bobo44b3o14b3o21bobo12bobo42bobo12bobo35boo8boo46bo14bo24bo14bo44bo14bo35bobbobobbobobbo45bo16bo135boo8boo200boo4boo34bobo34bobo8bo22bo36bo22bo32boobb4obboo35boo34boo9bo22bo36bo22bo31bobbo6bobbo35bo36bo9bo22bo36bo22bo31bobo8bobo198bo10bo37boo30boo38boo28boo37bo32bo7124b3o54b3o126bo54bo125bo56bo7114b3o74b3o116bo74bo115bo76bo! mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results mniemiec wrote:A lightweight emulator stator variant came up in soup: http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp4_2596o696zw6fvz4a961696/b3s23. This yields the following predecessor, which should hopefully not be too difficult to synthesize: x = 71, y = 24, rule = B3/S23bo44bobbo42bo3o42b3o358bo10bo57bobo8bobo11b3o3bo12bo3b3o20bobbobboobbobbo10bo5boo12boo5bo20boobb4obboo10bo4boo14boo4bo22b8o58boo8boo11bo4bo14bo4bo20bobbo6bobbo58boo8boo14boo16boo88boo28boo7bobo28bobo9bo28bo! EDIT: Synthesis from 29 gliders. This can probably be optimized, as it involves 4 R-pentominos, all of which are made sub-optimally, plus a kickback reaction: x = 211, y = 67, rule = B3/S23144bobo14bobo143bo20bo143bo20bo143bobbo14bobbo143b3o16b3o7121bobo60bobo122boo60boo122bo62bo7128bo50bo129bo48bo127b3o48b3o$$157bo8bobo$155boo9boo$156boo9bo$obo3bo$booboo$bo3boo123bo60bo$4boo20boo28boo38boo23bobo32boo26bobo$3bobo22bo29bo39bo23boo34bo25boo$5bo19bo16bo12bo9bo29bo59bo$26boo15bo12boo6bo31boo58boo$41b3o20b3o19bo14bo44bo14bo$85bobo12bobo42bobo12bobo$44b3o14b3o21bobo12bobo42bobo12bobo35boo8boo$46bo14bo24bo14bo44bo14bo35bobbobobbobobbo$45bo16bo135boo8boo$200boo4boo$34bobo34bobo8bo22bo36bo22bo32boobb4obboo$35boo34boo9bo22bo36bo22bo31bobbo6bobbo$35bo36bo9bo22bo36bo22bo31bobo8bobo$198bo10bo$37boo30boo$38boo28boo$37bo32bo7$124b3o54b3o$126bo54bo$125bo56bo7$114b3o74b3o$116bo74bo$115bo76bo! 13 gliders: x = 70, y = 46, rule = B3/S23o68bo$b2o64b2o$2o66b2o$15bo38bo$16bo36bo$14b3o36b3o$30bo$31bo$23bobo3b3o$24b2o$24bo15$19b3o$21bo$20bo2$10b3o44b3o$12bo44bo$11bo46bo$14b3o36b3o$16bo36bo$15bo38bo9$8bo52bo$8b2o50b2o$7bobo50bobo! Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) : 965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608). AbhpzTa Posts: 373 Joined: April 13th, 2016, 9:40 am Location: Ishikawa Prefecture, Japan ### Re: Soup search results mniemiec wrote:A lightweight emulator stator variant came up in soup: ... Synthesis from 29 gliders. ... AbhpzTa wrote:13 gliders: ... Impressive! I would have expected this to take at least 16, not counting kickbacks! (By the way, even if I rarely comment on them, I find most of your reductions quite remarkable!) mniemiec Posts: 878 Joined: June 1st, 2013, 12:00 am ### Re: Soup search results New twin bees shuttle variant in D4_+1: x = 11, y = 30, rule = B3/S23b2o5b2ob$bobo3bobob$2bobobobo2b$4bobo4b$3b2ob2o3b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$b3o3b3ob$o2bo3bo2bo$2obo3bob2o$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$11b$3b2ob2o3b$4bobo4b$2bobobobo2b$2b2o3b2o2b!

Soup:

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