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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Scorbie » August 20th, 2015, 10:54 pm

Freywa wrote:Because we are not using Achim's method, we're not getting the full spectrum of oscillators. In other words, 8 trillion objects without any phoenix among them.
Did Achim's census contain any pheonices? I don't think so...
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » August 21st, 2015, 4:39 am

Scorbie wrote:
Freywa wrote:Because we are not using Achim's method, we're not getting the full spectrum of oscillators. In other words, 8 trillion objects without any phoenix among them.
Did Achim's census contain any pheonices? I don't think so...


No, I don't think the phoenix has ever occurred naturally in an asymmetric soup.

It must just be the case that it has a frequency substantially lower than 10^-12.

What do you mean by 'Achim's method'? He used a 32-by-32 torus for one experiment, and a 2048-by-2048 torus for another.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby isaacg » August 21st, 2015, 7:14 am

I love the software, it's incredibly simple to use and effective.

I was wondering whether there was any way, via the website, to see an aggregate of the contributions of a single user? I'd like to know what I've personally produced.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Freywa » August 22nd, 2015, 12:42 am

calcyman wrote:What do you mean by 'Achim's method'? He used a 32-by-32 torus for one experiment, and a 2048-by-2048 torus for another.

The latter one. Seeing as objects need space to evolve and the Herschel travels more than 32 cells across its lifetime, I think the 2048×2048 torus was the better soup generator of the two (indeed, these ones are the source of the commonly cited object frequencies on the wiki).
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Billabob » August 26th, 2015, 4:24 pm

9 trillion objects!
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Kazyan » August 29th, 2015, 7:08 pm

Extrementhusiast wrote:It flashed by so quickly, I thought it was searching through entirely new soups, thus the confusion.

EDIT: Just for fun, I've calculated that there are exactly this many unique soups in C1 symmetry (counting rotations and reflections as the same soup):
14 474 011 154 664 524 427 946 373 126 085 988 492 632 854 416 405 335 952 223 242 430 050 012 758 016

(that's 1.4474*10^76)


I decided to expand on Extrementhusiast's calculation in the v1.0 thread after an insight based on Kiran's concept of soup propagation distance. Some soups, even if similar, might just converge in a few generations because the only difference is a dying spark or something like that. The above number will contain some soups that are identical in spirit, if not actual starting configuration.

So, I modified my script in the soup propagation distance thread to give the empirical probability that the propagation distance would not be zero for each of the cells in random 16x16 soups. If a cell's state doesn't matter (propagation distance zero), the ash is the same whatever its position, but if it does matter, the ash will be different. For reasons similar to ones outlined here, we can approximate the number of meaningfully distinct soups as ∏(1 + P(i))/16, where i is a cell, P(i) is its matching value in the attached grid, and dividing by 16 accounts for rotations and reflections. For these empirical probabilities—10,000 trials each—the total is about 3.68 * 10^71 soups.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » August 31st, 2015, 6:26 am

The program no longer segfaults in the case of patchy network connections, and instead continues the search until the Internet becomes available again.

https://gitlab.com/apgoucher/apgnano/commit/56b4ece9e11360f382e3827fcdb1af571fb0f8aa

Download v2.4 for the updated version.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby gmc_nxtman » August 31st, 2015, 11:25 am

Is something wrong with the donut chart?
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » August 31st, 2015, 1:34 pm

No, I revamped it because the old colour scheme was getting somewhat boring.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » September 2nd, 2015, 12:18 pm

What do you do with ill crystallographers? Take them to the mono-clinic!
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby dvgrn » September 2nd, 2015, 12:53 pm

calcyman wrote:10^13 objects: http://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3s23/C1

Give or take a few billion. Drat, the 10-trillion mark has scrolled off the hauls screen already, so I don't see how to find out who contributed the ten billionth object...!

I've done a successful test with apgsearch 2.4, by the way, interrupting my wifi connection for a couple of reporting cycles. Apgsearch successfully reported the accumulated results instead of segfaulting. I'd suggest anyone with an unreliable Internet connection should upgrade to v2.4 sooner rather than later.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Billabob » September 2nd, 2015, 12:57 pm

10.

TRILLION.

Objects.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Kazyan » September 2nd, 2015, 4:59 pm

In celebration of entirely too much random stuff, is it time to update LifeWiki's lists of common objects now? In particular, the "List of common oscillators" page is uncertain about rankings beyond the spark coil or thereabouts, but according to my spreadsheet of today's /textcensus, the order isn't even ambiguous until we get to 20P2 (39th most common oscillator by catagolue).
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » September 6th, 2015, 8:28 am

but according to my spreadsheet of today's /textcensus, the order isn't even ambiguous until we get to 20P2 (39th most common oscillator by catagolue).


We can definitely go as far as xp2_318czw3553 (trans-beacon and cap) without there being any ambiguity in the total order of oscillators by frequency, with the possible exception of the two varieties of queen bee shuttle.

I've now incorporated Apple Bottom's local logging into the latest commit (so you don't need to modify every version of main.cpp manually).
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby biggiemac » September 7th, 2015, 4:00 am

My soup farm has been reborn. 100 instances of unparallelized v2.4, running 40M soups per haul. Expect 90 Gigaobjects every 6 or so hours from me.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Alexey_Nigin » September 7th, 2015, 2:06 pm

Brett Berger wrote:My soup farm has been reborn. 100 instances of unparallelized v2.4, running 40M soups per haul. Expect 90 Gigaobjects every 6 or so hours from me.


Now that deserves praise! Thank you very much!
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby gmc_nxtman » September 7th, 2015, 7:38 pm

A tremendous 11 (EDIT:Now 12!) trillion objects! I wonder if we'll ever reach a quadrillion?
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Billabob » September 24th, 2015, 1:34 pm

There is spam on this page. (The latest comment was me, as I was testing if the "Post comment" button worked with no text in the box. It does.)
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby gameoflifeboy » September 24th, 2015, 1:42 pm

It happened on a lot of pages, with empty comments each time. Fortunately there's a very easy filter - which would also prevent users from accidentally pressing the "post" button with out commenting.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby Apple Bottom » September 27th, 2015, 5:45 am

Neat, a new variant of the mold showed up last night:

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gmc_nxtman wrote:A tremendous 11 (EDIT:Now 12!) trillion objects! I wonder if we'll ever reach a quadrillion?


Only if we manage to get more users on board, I think. And for that I think isaacg's suggestion would go a long way:

isaacg wrote:I love the software, it's incredibly simple to use and effective.

I was wondering whether there was any way, via the website, to see an aggregate of the contributions of a single user? I'd like to know what I've personally produced.


Some sort of dashboard with statistics, graphs (e.g. "your contribution over time"), objects of interest (e.g. "objects first seen by you") and so on, perhaps?

Or we could go a step further and add XP, levels, medals, unlockable achievements etc. as well. (Kidding.)

EDIT: BTW, I noticed that a few weeks ago one of my searcher instances identified a new pattern I'd not seen before, yl1152_1_275_a3591abbc6ddbf461332c01353cae282. However, it doesn't appear in the census now, there's no yl1152 objects, and the haul it came from isn't available either (anymore?).

Here's the haul's log:

payosha256:pay_token:ps2tdca18057e23754217a18:805330

@VERSION v2.4
@MD5 5401f93319614036f41a4231931c2e7c
@ROOT n_RnmcmwQc9ELq
@RULE B3S23
@SYMMETRY C1
@NUM_SOUPS 10000000
@NUM_OBJECTS 218414821

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The sample soup ID's the same as for the pathological object, but nonetheless I'm curious what exactly is going on there.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » September 28th, 2015, 11:21 am

Apple Bottom wrote:The sample soup ID's the same as for the pathological object, but nonetheless I'm curious what exactly is going on there.


Oh, it got rejected for containing a pathological object (since pre-v2.42 releases had a bug where a long-lasting glider impacting with distant junk and spawning a switch-engine caused mistaken reports of pathological objects, and I didn't want those false positives in the census). I cleared out the rejected hauls without checking them properly, assuming that they were all caused by the pre-v2.42 bug.

As for the mistaken pathological in your latest soup, that was a piece of exhaust which stabilises into the disjoint union of some still-lifes, oscillators and a glider. Since [the disjoint union] is aperiodic due to the receding glider, but was identified as a single object, this was classified as pathological. I've now amended this bug in v2.43.

So, yes, I suggest you upgrade to v2.43 as soon as possible. (Also, sorry about the bugs that keep getting discovered. It's difficult to prepare for rare events that appear with a frequency of less than 10^-12.)

By the way, I'm re-computing and committing your yl1152 haul at the moment (and correctly attributing it to your account). It should enter the system in a couple of hours or so.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » September 29th, 2015, 10:27 pm

isaacg wrote:I was wondering whether there was any way, via the website, to see an aggregate of the contributions of a single user? I'd like to know what I've personally produced.


That's an excellent idea; thanks for suggesting it! Indeed, it was sufficiently excellent to warrant implementation.

At the moment the user pages are very primitive (only listing high-period oscillators and infinite-growth objects, together with a link to your most recent hauls posted today or later), but the following is a preliminary step towards the 'user contributions' pages you requested:


There's a link to your own user page(s) on https://catagolue.appspot.com/payosha256 if you don't want to guess the URL. I could also make the pie chart sectors similarly clickable, but I need to sleep first.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby gameoflifeboy » September 29th, 2015, 10:43 pm

Wow! I had no idea I found the second E-buckaroo, that someone got excited about! I remember I also found one of the first natural MWSS on MWSSes, so this should probably show spaceships too.
Also, does the haul list just show what people have found in asymmetric Life, or does it cover all rules/symmetries?
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby calcyman » September 30th, 2015, 11:52 am

gameoflifeboy wrote:Wow! I had no idea I found the second E-buckaroo, that someone got excited about! I remember I also found one of the first natural MWSS on MWSSes, so this should probably show spaceships too.


I've now added discoveries from xp3 and xq4.

https://catagolue.appspot.com/user/EricABQ

It appears you found the third xq4_27dee6z4eb776 and the 17th xq4_0791h1az8smec. Also, you're the unique discoverer of https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp3_0q52z122qj871/b3s23 (a weird candlefrobra variant).

Also, does the haul list just show what people have found in asymmetric Life, or does it cover all rules/symmetries?


Only b3s23/C1. Also, there isn't yet a scheduled task to perform the attributions, so it has to be called manually for each object or tabulation. EDIT: Now it's done automatically by the regular cron process.
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Re: apgsearch v2.2

Postby gmc_nxtman » September 30th, 2015, 6:56 pm

Does the haul page only show hauls that are recent enough to be featured? If so, perhaps you should increase the limit. And apparently the only notable thing I've found even the fifth of is this...

http://catagolue.appspot.com/user/gmc_nxtman

Also, what about adding extra symmetries? I feel that it would be much easier than extra rules, because it only* requires improving the random soup generator and making the field slightly better.

*I have no idea what I'm talking about.
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