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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Sokwe » September 19th, 2017, 6:53 am

I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:
x = 307, y = 125, rule = B3/S23
41bob2o$41b2obo2$41b6o$35bo4bo5bo$35b3o2bobobo$38bobobob2o$35b2obobo5b
o7b2o$35bobo2bob3o2bo5bo2bo$38b2obo3b2obo3bobobo45b2obob2o43b2obob2o
43b2obob2o43b2obob2o$36b2o3bo3bo2bo2bobobo45bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobo
b2obo42bobob2obo$35bo3b2ob2obob2obo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo$35b
ob2obo3b2o4b2ob2o45b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o$36bobo3b
o3bob2o2bobo43b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo$38bo4b2ob
2o3b2obob2o39bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo$37bob3o2bo
4b2o4bob3o38b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o$37bobob2obob3ob
o2bobo4bo39bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo$32bob2obo2b
3obobo4b4ob4o43b2ob3o42b4ob3o44b2ob3o42b4ob3o$32b2obobo6bo7bo3bo2bobo
39b2obobo45bo3bo44b2obobo45bo3bo$37bo5bobo5b2obo5bobo41bo8b2o36b2obo8b
2o39bo8b2o36b2obo8b2o$32b3o2bobobo3bo8b2o5bobo38bob2o8bo39b2o8bo37bob
2o8bo39b2o8bo$32bo2bobob2ob2obob2o2b2o10bo38b2o9bo37b2o10bo38b2o9bo37b
2o10bo$34bo2b2obo4bobo6b2o7b2o37bob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o37bob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o
$33b2obo5b3o3bo3bobobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o30bobobo7bo2b2ob2o
29b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o30bobobo7bo2b2ob2o$32bo3b5obo2b3o6bobo7bobobobo35bo
6b3o2bobo33bobo7bobobobo35bo6b3o2bobo33bobo7bobobobo$33b2o9bo7b2o2bob
2o5bo2bobo30b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo31b2o2bob2o5bo2bobo30b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo
31b2o2bob2o5bo2bobo$35b3o3bob2ob2o4b4obo2bob2ob4o2b2o23b2o3b2ob2obo2bo
6b2o2b2o23b2o4b4obo2bob2ob4o2b2o23b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o23b2o4b4obo2b
ob2ob4o2b2o$35bo8bobo8bobobo4b2o3bobo24bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo24bobo6b
obobo4b2o3bobo24bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo24bobo6bobobo4b2o3bobo$39b2obob
o2bo3bo3bobob3o6b2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo25bo2bo3bobob3o6b2o2bo
25bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo25bo2bo3bobob3o6b2o2bo$36b2obo5b2obobo3b2obo4b
5o3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b5o3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo
3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b5o3b2o$32b2o6b5o3bob2obo3bob2ob4ob2obo26bo2b4o3bob
2o6b2obo26bo2b2obo3bob2ob4ob2obo26bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2obo3bob2ob
4ob2obo$32bo2bo4b3o2bobobo5b2obobo6bo2bo28bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo
5b2obobo6bo2bo28bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobo6bo2bo$33bob3o6b2ob
o2b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o
28b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o$32b2o4b2o7bo9bo2bobob5ob
o36bo2bobobo2b2obo36bo2bobob5obo36bo2bobobo2b2obo36bo2bobob5obo$35b3ob
obob4o7b4ob2ob4o5bo24b2o5b5ob2o10bo24b2o6b4ob2ob4o5bo24b2o5b5ob2o10bo
24b2o6b4ob2ob4o5bo$32b2obo2b2o3bo5b4o5bo3bo3bob3obo23bo2bob2obo3bo3bo
4b4obo23bo2b4o5bo3bo3bob3obo23bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b4obo23bo2b4o5bo3bo3bob
3obo$33bobo2bo3bob6obo3bo2bob2ob2obobo3bo24b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo24b
3obo3bo2bob2ob2obobo3bo24b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo24b3obo3bo2bob2ob2obob
o3bo$32bo2b2o4b2o2bo5bo2bobob2obo10b3o26b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o26bo2bobob
2obo10b3o26b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o26bo2bobob2obo10b3o$33b2o3bo2b2ob4ob3o
3b2o7bob2o7bo23b2o5bo9b2o7bo23b3o3b2o7bob2o7bo23b2o5bo9b2o7bo23b3o3b2o
7bob2o7bo$35b3o3bo2b2ob2o7bo7bo9b2o22bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o22bo7bo7bo9b
2o22bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o22bo7bo7bo9b2o$35bo3bo5bo4b3ob2o8bo2b2obo2bo
23bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo23bo2b3ob2o8bo2b2obo2bo23bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo23b
o2b3ob2o8bo2b2obo2bo$37b3o2b2ob5o8b2o4b3obo2bo2b2o22b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobo
bo2b2o22b2o8b2o4b3obo2bo2b2o22b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o22b2o8b2o4b3obo
2bo2b2o$40b5o6bo2b2o2b2o5bobobob2obo26bo6b2o7bobob2obo26bo2b2o2b2o5bob
obob2obo26bo6b2o7bobob2obo26bo2b2o2b2o5bobobob2obo$36bo2bobo5b3obob3o
6b2o2bob2o2bobo23b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo23b2obob3o6b2o2bob2o2bobo23b2o2b3o8b
7o2bobo23b2obob3o6b2o2bob2o2bobo$30b2o5bo5bo2bo2bo4bo15bobob2o23bobobo
9b2o5bobob2o23bo4bo15bobob2o23bobobo9b2o5bobob2o23bo4bo15bobob2o$29b2o
8b3o4bo2bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2obo3bo23bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo23bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2ob
o3bo23bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo23bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2obo3bo$31bo8bobo3b2ob2ob3o3b
2o4bo3bo2bob2o21b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o21b2ob2ob3o3b2o4bo3bo2bob2o21b
2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o21b2ob2ob3o3b2o4bo3bo2bob2o$39b2o3b2obobo3bo4b2o
4bo3b2obobo23bobo2bo13bo3b2obo23bobo3bo10bo3b2obobo23bobo2bo13bo3b2obo
23bobo3bo10bo3b2obobo$39b2ob3ob2obob2o5b2o4bo2b3obobo13b2o7bo2bob2o10b
o2bo4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o11bo2b3obobo13b2o7bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo13b2o7bo
2bob2o11bo2b3obobo13b2o$45bobobobo5bobo5bob2o2bob2o13bo7b2obobo5b3o4bo
3b2obob2o13bo7b2obobo5b2o6bob2o2bob2o13bo7b2obobo12bo3b2obob2o13bo7b2o
bobo13bob2o2bob2o13bo$46bo2bobo7bo6b2o3bo16bobo8bobo7bo6b4obo16bobo8bo
bo4bobo7b2o3bo16bobo8bobo4b3o7b4obo16bobo8bobo4b2o8b2o3bo16bobo$49b2o
20bo17b2o8b2o7bo8b2o2bo17b2o8b2o7bo12bo17b2o8b2o7bo8b2o2bo17b2o8b2o4bo
bo13bo17b2o$69b2o48b2o48b2o36bo11b2o36bo11b2o$43bo25bo49bo49bo49bo49bo
$31bo10bobo25b3o8bo11bo26b3o8bo38b3o8bo38b3o8bo38b3o8bo$29b3o13bo26bo
6b3o10b3o27bo6b3o11bo28bo6b3o40bo6b3o40bo6b3o$28bo11b2o3bo11bobo18bo
12bo13bo2bo19bo13b3o11bo21bo14bo16b2o16bo30b3o3bo12bo$3bo11b2o11b2o9bo
3bob2o6bobo9b2o11b2o10b2ob3o8bo3b2o5b2o11b2o11b2obo10b5o5b2o11b2o12b3o
11b2o2b3o2b2o11b2o13bo13b5o2bobo11b2o$3b3o9b2o23bo5bo6bo11b2o24b2o3bo
7bo3bo6b2o25bo2bo8bo11bo25bob2o9b2o4bobo2bo25b3o11b2o8bo26bo$3bobo18b
2o16bobobo6bobo3bo35bo8bo3bo34b2o10b2o37b2o10bob2obo3bo25b2o2bo11b2o4b
3o26b3o$5bo17b2obo16b2o11b2obo14b3o16bobo9bo2bo16b2o17bo11b2o17b2o30b
2o3bo28b5o12bo3b2o28bob2o$22bobob2o45b2obo30bo16bo2bo30bo16b2o48b3o13b
3o32bo13bobo$21b2obo2bo44b2obo47b2o49bo2bo46bo4bo11b2o32bob2o10bo4b2o
4bo$bo20b2o49bobo48b2o3bo44b2obo2bo43b2obo11bobobo30b2obob2o9b2ob5o3bo
$obo20b4o3bo9b2o32b2o4bo9b2o33bo4bo9b2o36bo2bo9bobo34b3o9b2obo3b2o29bo
11b2obob3o$bo29bo7bo2bo35bobo8bo2bo35b3o9bo37bobo10b2o38bo9b2o37bobo
14bo$29b3o7b2ob2o35b2o9b3o47b3o48bo98b2o8bo$29b2o10bo11b2o35b2o11b2o
48b2o48b2o48b2o26b2o20b2o$28b2o23bo49bo49bo49bo49bo14bo34bo$28bobo16bo
6b3o21b3o16bo6b3o22b2o16bo6b3o40bo6b3o40bo6b3o12bo27bo6b3o$28bo16b3o8b
o21bo16b3o8bo22bobo13b3o8bo22b3o13b3o8bo11b2o10b2o13b3o8bo10bobo25b3o
8bo$44bo34bo14bo34bo14bo34bo14bo35bobo11bo23bo11b3o11bo$11bo32b2o48b2o
48b2o34bo13b2o34bo13b2o34bo13b2o$11bobo6bo3b2o15bo4bo17b2o8b2o20bo17b
2o8b2o15bo4bo17b2o8b2o20bo17b2o8b2o15bo4bo17b2o8b2o5bo14bo$11b2o8bo2bo
bo14bo4bo16bobo8bobo14b3ob2o16bobo8bobo14bo4bo16bobo8bobo14b3ob2o16bob
o8bobo14bo4bo16bobo8bobo14b3ob2o$15bob2o3bobobo13b2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obo
bo13bo3bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13b2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13bo3bobob2o13bo7b
2obobo13b2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13bo3bobob2o$14bo5b2o2bob2o12bobobobobo
13b2o7bo2bob2o11b3o4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o12bobobobobo13b2o7bo2bob2o11b3o
4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o12bobobobobo13b2o7bo2bob2o11b3o4bobo$14bo3bo4b2o3bo
11b2o3b2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo23bobo3bo11b2o3b2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo23b
obo3bo11b2o3b2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo$15bo4bobobo3bo4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b
2ob3o6b2o3b2o6bob2o21b2obo3bo4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b2ob3o6b2o3b2o6bob2o21b
2obo3bo4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b2ob3o6b2o3b2o6bob2o$13bob3o4bobo3bo4b2o5b2ob
2obo3bo23bob2o2bo2b2o4b2ob3obo3bo23bo3bo4b2o5b2ob2obo3bo23bob2o2bo2b2o
4b2ob3obo3bo23bo3bo4b2o5b2ob2obo3bo23bob2o2bo2b2o4b2ob3obo3bo$12bo11bo
bo2bo8bo6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bobob2o23bobo2bo8bo6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bob
ob2o23bobo2bo8bo6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bobob2o$12b2ob3obob4obob2o8bob3obo
2bobo23b2o2b2o12b4o2bobo23b2obob2o8bob3obo2bobo23b2o2b2o12b4o2bobo23b
2obob2o8bob3obo2bobo23b2o2b2o12b4o2bobo$12b2o12bo2bo3b2o3bo5bob2obo27b
2obo2b2o3bo5bob2obo26bo2bo3b2o3bo5bob2obo27b2obo2b2o3bo5bob2obo26bo2bo
3b2o3bo5bob2obo27b2obo2b2o3bo5bob2obo$13b2o3bob5o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b
2o22b2o2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o22b2o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b2o22b2o2b2o4b2o4bo6b
o2b2o22b2o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b2o22b2o2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o$10bo6b2obo4b6o
8bobo6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo23bo2b6o8bobo6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo23bo
2b6o8bobo6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo$10b4o3b3o2b2o7bo8b2o2bo4b2o22bo3bobo
bo6b2obobo5b2o22bo7bo8b2o2bo4b2o22bo3bobobo6b2obobo5b2o22bo7bo8b2o2bo
4b2o22bo3bobobo6b2obobo5b2o$8b2o7bo3b2ob2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6bo23b3o4bo8b
o9bo23b2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6bo23b3o4bo8bo9bo23b2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6bo23b3o
4bo8bo9bo$7bo2bobo4bo2bo5bo4bob2obo2bo7b3o26b2obobob2ob4obo5b3o26bo4bo
b2obo2bo7b3o26b2obobob2ob4obo5b3o26bo4bob2obo2bo7b3o26b2obobob2ob4obo
5b3o$8bobo5bo3b5o4b2o2bob2ob4obo3bo24b3o5bo2bob2obobo2bo3bo24b3o4b2o2b
ob2ob4obo3bo24b3o5bo2bob2obobo2bo3bo24b3o4b2o2bob2ob4obo3bo24b3o5bo2bo
b2obobo2bo3bo$7b2obobobo3bo5b2obo5bo3bo3b5obo23bo2bob2obo3bo7bob3obo
23bo2b2obo5bo3bo3b5obo23bo2bob2obo3bo7bob3obo23bo2b2obo5bo3bo3b5obo23b
o2bob2obo3bo7bob3obo$10b2o2b8o5b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o2b2o3b3ob2obo8bo24b2o
4b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o2b2o3b3ob2obo8bo24b2o4b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o2b2o3b3ob2obo
8bo$7b2o4bo2bo5bo4b2o3bo2bobob2ob2obo30bobo3bo2bobo4b2obo31b2o3bo2bobo
b2ob2obo30bobo3bo2bobo4b2obo31b2o3bo2bobob2ob2obo30bobo3bo2bobo4b2obo$
8bob3o4bob2obo2b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o2b2o2bo4b3o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo
3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o2b2o2bo4b3o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o2b2o2bo
4b3o2bob2o$7bo2bo5b3obobobo5b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo3bob2obobobo2bobo2bo
28bo5b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo3bob2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobobo2bobo2bo
28bo3bob2obobobo2bobo2bo$7b2o5b2o3bo3bobob2o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2o5bob2o
bo4b2obo26bo2bob2o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2o5bob2obo4b2obo26bo2bob2o3bob2o6b
2obo26bo2b2o5bob2obo4b2obo$12bo7b2obobo3b2obo4b2ob2o3b2o25b2obobob2obo
8bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b2ob2o3b2o25b2obobob2obo8bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b2ob
2o3b2o25b2obobob2obo8bo3b2o$11b3o3b3o2bo3b2o2bobob4obo3b2o2bo25bo6bobo
b4o3bob2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obo3b2o2bo25bo6bobob4o3bob2o2bo25bo2b2o2bob
ob4obo3b2o2bo25bo6bobob4o3bob2o2bo$10bobob4obobo8bobobo3b2o4bobo24bobo
3b2obobobo2b4o3bobo24bobo6bobobo3b2o4bobo24bobo3b2obobobo2b4o3bobo24bo
bo6bobobo3b2o4bobo24bobo3b2obobobo2b4o3bobo$10b2ob2obobo2b2o6b2obo2bo
2bo2b3o2b2o23b2o4bo2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o23b2o6b2obo2bo2bo2b3o2b2o23b2o4b
o2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o23b2o6b2obo2bo2bo2b3o2b2o23b2o4bo2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b
2o$8b2o4bo4bo6b3o2bob2o3bobo2bobo31bo3bob2o3bo4bobo30b3o2bob2o3bobo2bo
bo31bo3bob2o3bo4bobo30b3o2bob2o3bobo2bobo31bo3bob2o3bo4bobo$7bo3b4o5b
3o5bo2bo8bo2bobo31bobobo7bobobobo32bo2bo8bo2bobo31bobobo7bobobobo32bo
2bo8bo2bobo31bobobo7bobobobo$8b2obo4b4o3bo2b2obobo10b2ob2o32bobo7bo2b
2ob2o29b2obobo10b2ob2o32bobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo10b2ob2o32bobo7bo2b2ob
2o$9bo2bo7bobo6b2o7b2o36b2ob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o36b2ob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o36b2ob
2o7b2o$7bo2bobob2ob4ob2o2b2o10bo39bo9bo37b2o10bo39bo9bo37b2o10bo39bo9b
o$7b3o2bobo3bobo6bob2o5bobo40b2o8bo37bob2o8bo39b2o8bo37bob2o8bo39b2o8b
o$12bo2bo2bobo5b2obo5bobo38b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b2o
36b2obo8b2o$7b2obobo6bo7bobobo2bobo42bobo45bobobo47bobo45bobobo47bobo$
7bob2obobo2bobobo4bo4b4o41bo2bob3o42bo4b3o42bo2bob3o42bo4b3o42bo2bob3o
$12bobob2obob3obo2bobo4bo39bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo
3bo40bo2bobo3bo$12bobo4bo4b2ob2obob3o38b3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o39b3ob
2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o$13bo3b3ob2o3b2obob2o39bo3b2obobo40bo
3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo$11bobobo5bob2o4bo43b2o4bo
bo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo$10bob2obobob2o4b2o2bo45b2o
2bob2o42b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o$10bo3b2o4bob2obo2bo
46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo$11b2o3bobobo2bo2bobobo45bobob2obo
42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo$13b2obobob2obo3bobobo45b
2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o$10bobo2bob3o2bo5bo2bo$
10b2obobo5bo7b2o$13bobob4o$10b3o2bobobo$10bo4bo5bo$16b6o2$16b2obo$16bo
b2o!

Notice that there is an output Herschel that needs to be deleted before it releases its first natural glider. Is it possible to use p4 sparkers to convert this Herschel into a glider (or, ideally, 2 gliders)? Can the other end of the track be supported by only 2 glider streams and some p4 sparkers?

Edit: It's possible to get 3 gliders out of the end of the track using the fast H-to-2G, but the streams seem to be too close together to separate:
x = 332, y = 116, rule = B3/S23
27b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o$26bobob2o
bo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo$25bo2bo46bo
2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo$25b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o42b2o
b2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o42b2ob2ob2o$23b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo41b2o
2bobobo41b2o2bobobo41b2o2bobobo$22bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo
40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo$23b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o
39b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o39b3o4bob2o$25bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo
40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo$28b2ob3o42b4ob3o44b2ob3o42b4ob3o
44b2ob3o42b4ob3o$26b2obobo45bo3bo44b2obobo45bo3bo44b2obobo45bo3bo$29bo
8b2o36b2obo8b2o39bo8b2o36b2obo8b2o39bo8b2o36b2obo8b2o$27bob2o8bo39b2o
8bo37bob2o8bo39b2o8bo37bob2o8bo39b2o8bo$27b2o9bo37b2o10bo38b2o9bo37b2o
10bo38b2o9bo37b2o10bo$27bob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o37bob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o37bob2o
7b2o39b2o7b2o$26b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o30bobobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o
30bobobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o30bobobo7bo2b2ob2o$31bo6b3o2bobo
33bobo7bobobobo35bo6b3o2bobo33bobo7bobobobo35bo6b3o2bobo33bobo7bobobob
o$26b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo31b2o2bob2o5bo2bobo30b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo31b2o2bob
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2o2b2o23b2o4b4obo2bob2ob4o2b2o23b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o23b2o4b4obo2bob
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obobo4b3o2bobo24bobo6bobobo4b2o3bobo24bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo24bobo6bo
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2bobob4obob4o2bo25bo2bo3bobob3o6b2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo25bo2bo
3bobob3o6b2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo25bo2bo3bobob3o6b2o2bo$22b2obo
3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b5o3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o25b2obo3b
2obo4b5o3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b5o3b2o$22bo2b4o3bob
2o6b2obo26bo2b2obo3bob2ob4ob2obo26bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2obo3bob2ob
4ob2obo26bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2obo3bob2ob4ob2obo$24bo2bo2b2obobobo
2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobo6bo2bo28bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobo6bo2bo
28bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobo6bo2bo$25b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o28b
3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o
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5b5ob2o10bo24b2o6b4ob2ob4o5bo24b2o5b5ob2o10bo24b2o6b4ob2ob4o5bo24b2o5b
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3obo23bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b4obo23bo2b4o5bo3bo3bob3obo23bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b
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2obobo3bo24b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo24b3obo3bo2bob2ob2obobo3bo24b3o4b2o
2bob2obob2obo3bo24b3obo3bo2bob2ob2obobo3bo$26b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o26bo
2bobob2obo10b3o26b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o26bo2bobob2obo10b3o26b2o3bob2obob
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9b2o7bo23b3o3b2o7bob2o7bo23b2o5bo9b2o7bo23b3o3b2o7bob2o7bo$23bo3bo3bo
6bo2bob2o4b2o22bo7bo7bo9b2o22bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o22bo7bo7bo9b2o22bo3b
o3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o22bo7bo7bo9b2o$22bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo23bo2b3ob2o8bo2b
2obo2bo23bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo23bo2b3ob2o8bo2b2obo2bo23bo2b2o2b2o10bob
2o3bo23bo2b3ob2o8bo2b2obo2bo$23b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o22b2o8b2o4b3obo
2bo2b2o22b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o22b2o8b2o4b3obo2bo2b2o22b3o2bo4b2o4b
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bob2obo26bo6b2o7bobob2obo26bo2b2o2b2o5bobobob2obo26bo6b2o7bobob2obo26b
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2b3o8b7o2bobo23b2obob3o6b2o2bob2o2bobo23b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo23b2obob3o6b2o
2bob2o2bobo$24bobobo9b2o5bobob2o23bo4bo15bobob2o23bobobo9b2o5bobob2o
23bo4bo15bobob2o23bobobo9b2o5bobob2o23bo4bo15bobob2o$24bob2o5b2o6b4obo
3bo23bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2obo3bo23bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo23bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2obo3b
o23bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo23bo2b3o3b2o4b3ob2obo3bo$21b2obob2o3b2o2bo5bobo2b
ob2o21b2ob2ob3o3b2o4bo3bo2bob2o21b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o21b2ob2ob3o3b
2o4bo3bo2bob2o21b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o21b2ob2ob3o3b2o4bo3bo2bob2o$22b
obo2bo3b6o4bo3b2obo23bobo3bo4b2o4bo3b2obobo23bobo2bo13bo3b2obo23bobo3b
o10bo3b2obobo23bobo2bo13bo3b2obo23bobo3bo10bo3b2obobo$21bo2bob2o5bob2o
bo2bo4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o5b2o4bo2b3obobo13b2o7bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo13b2o
7bo2bob2o11bo2b3obobo13b2o7bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o11bo2b3ob
obo13b2o$21b2obobo6b3o3bo3b2obob2o13bo7b2obobo5bobo5bob2o2bob2o13bo7b
2obobo5b3o4bo3b2obob2o13bo7b2obobo5b2o6bob2o2bob2o13bo7b2obobo12bo3b2o
bob2o13bo7b2obobo13bob2o2bob2o13bo$24bobo7bo6b4obo16bobo8bobo7bo6b2o3b
o16bobo8bobo7bo6b4obo16bobo8bobo4bobo7b2o3bo16bobo8bobo4b3o7b4obo16bob
o8bobo4b2o8b2o3bo16bobo$3o21b2o16b2o2bo17b2o8b2o20bo17b2o8b2o7bo8b2o2b
o17b2o8b2o7bo12bo17b2o8b2o7bo8b2o2bo17b2o8b2o4bobo13bo17b2o$o43b2o48b
2o48b2o48b2o36bo11b2o36bo11b2o$bo42bo23bo25bo49bo49bo49bo49bo$13bo31b
3o8bo10bobo25b3o8bo11bo26b3o8bo38b3o8bo38b3o8bo38b3o8bo$13b3o31bo6b3o
13bo26bo6b3o10b3o27bo6b3o11bo28bo6b3o40bo6b3o40bo6b3o$16bo36bo11b2o3bo
11bobo18bo12bo13bo2bo19bo13b3o11bo21bo14bo16b2o16bo30b3o3bo12bo$15b2o
11bo11b2o11b2o9bo3bob2o6bobo9b2o11b2o10b2ob3o8bo3b2o5b2o11b2o11b2obo
10b5o5b2o11b2o12b3o11b2o2b3o2b2o11b2o13bo13b5o2bobo11b2o$28b3o9b2o23bo
5bo6bo11b2o24b2o3bo7bo3bo6b2o25bo2bo8bo11bo25bob2o9b2o4bobo2bo25b3o11b
2o8bo26bo$2b2o24bobo18b2o16bobobo6bobo3bo35bo8bo3bo34b2o10b2o37b2o10bo
b2obo3bo25b2o2bo11b2o4b3o26b3o$2bobo25bo17b2obo16b2o11b2obo14b3o16bobo
9bo2bo16b2o17bo11b2o17b2o30b2o3bo28b5o12bo3b2o28bob2o$2bo10bobo31bobob
2o45b2obo30bo16bo2bo30bo16b2o48b3o13b3o32bo13bobo$12bo2bo30b2obo2bo44b
2obo47b2o49bo2bo46bo4bo11b2o32bob2o10bo4b2o4bo$12bo34b2o49bobo48b2o3bo
44b2obo2bo43b2obo11bobobo30b2obob2o9b2ob5o3bo$13b2ob2o30b4o3bo9b2o32b
2o4bo9b2o33bo4bo9b2o36bo2bo9bobo34b3o9b2obo3b2o29bo11b2obob3o$13b2obob
2o36bo7bo2bo35bobo8bo2bo35b3o9bo37bobo10b2o38bo9b2o37bobo14bo$14bo4bo
34b3o7b2ob2o35b2o9b3o47b3o48bo98b2o8bo$15b4o9b2o24b2o10bo11b2o35b2o11b
2o48b2o48b2o48b2o26b2o20b2o$16bo11bo24b2o23bo49bo49bo49bo49bo14bo34bo$
8b2o9b2o8b3o21bobo16bo6b3o21b3o16bo6b3o22b2o16bo6b3o40bo6b3o40bo6b3o
12bo27bo6b3o$7bo2bo8bo11bo21bo16b3o8bo21bo16b3o8bo22bobo13b3o8bo22b3o
13b3o8bo11b2o10b2o13b3o8bo10bobo25b3o8bo$8b2o10b3o46bo34bo14bo34bo14bo
34bo14bo35bobo11bo23bo11b3o11bo$22bo13bo32b2o48b2o48b2o34bo13b2o34bo
13b2o34bo13b2o$36bobo6bo3b2o15bo4bo17b2o8b2o20bo17b2o8b2o15bo4bo17b2o
8b2o20bo17b2o8b2o15bo4bo17b2o8b2o5bo14bo$10b2o24b2o8bo2bobo14bo4bo16bo
bo8bobo14b3ob2o16bobo8bobo14bo4bo16bobo8bobo14b3ob2o16bobo8bobo14bo4bo
16bobo8bobo14b3ob2o$10b2o28bob2o3bobobo13b2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13bo3b
obob2o13bo7b2obobo13b2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13bo3bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13b
2o2bobob2o13bo7b2obobo13bo3bobob2o$39bo5b2o2bob2o12bobobobobo13b2o7bo
2bob2o11b3o4bobo13b2o7bo2bob2o12bobobobobo13b2o7bo2bob2o11b3o4bobo13b
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2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo23bobo3bo11b2o3b2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo23bobo3bo
11b2o3b2obo23bobo4bo8b3o5bobo$40bo4bobobo3bo4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b2ob3o6b
2o3b2o6bob2o21b2obo3bo4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b2ob3o6b2o3b2o6bob2o21b2obo3bo
4b2o5b2obo2bob2o21b2ob3o6b2o3b2o6bob2o$38bob3o4bobo3bo4b2o5b2ob2obo3bo
23bob2o2bo2b2o4b2ob3obo3bo23bo3bo4b2o5b2ob2obo3bo23bob2o2bo2b2o4b2ob3o
bo3bo23bo3bo4b2o5b2ob2obo3bo23bob2o2bo2b2o4b2ob3obo3bo$37bo11bobo2bo8b
o6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bobob2o23bobo2bo8bo6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bobob2o23b
obo2bo8bo6bobob2o23bo13b2obo3bobob2o$37b2ob3obob4obob2o8bob3obo2bobo
23b2o2b2o12b4o2bobo23b2obob2o8bob3obo2bobo23b2o2b2o12b4o2bobo23b2obob
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2b2o3bo5bob2obo26bo2bo3b2o3bo5bob2obo27b2obo2b2o3bo5bob2obo26bo2bo3b2o
3bo5bob2obo27b2obo2b2o3bo5bob2obo$38b2o3bob5o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b2o22b
2o2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o22b2o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b2o22b2o2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o
22b2o2bobo3b2o5bobobobo2b2o22b2o2b2o4b2o4bo6bo2b2o$35bo6b2obo4b6o8bobo
6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo23bo2b6o8bobo6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo23bo2b6o
8bobo6bo23bo2b2o3bo7b2ob4o3bo$23bo11b4o3b3o2b2o7bo8b2o2bo4b2o22bo3bobo
bo6b2obobo5b2o22bo7bo8b2o2bo4b2o22bo3bobobo6b2obobo5b2o22bo7bo8b2o2bo
4b2o22bo3bobobo6b2obobo5b2o$23bobo7b2o7bo3b2ob2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6bo23b
3o4bo8bo9bo23b2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6bo23b3o4bo8bo9bo23b2obo2b2o5bo2b2obo6b
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5b3o26bo4bob2obo2bo7b3o26b2obobob2ob4obo5b3o26bo4bob2obo2bo7b3o26b2obo
bob2ob4obo5b3o$33bobo5bo3b5o4b2o2bob2ob4obo3bo24b3o5bo2bob2obobo2bo3bo
24b3o4b2o2bob2ob4obo3bo24b3o5bo2bob2obobo2bo3bo24b3o4b2o2bob2ob4obo3bo
24b3o5bo2bob2obobo2bo3bo$32b2obobobo3bo5b2obo5bo3bo3b5obo23bo2bob2obo
3bo7bob3obo23bo2b2obo5bo3bo3b5obo23bo2bob2obo3bo7bob3obo23bo2b2obo5bo
3bo3b5obo23bo2bob2obo3bo7bob3obo$35b2o2b8o5b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o2b2o3b3ob
2obo8bo24b2o4b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o2b2o3b3ob2obo8bo24b2o4b6ob2o2bo7bo24b2o
2b2o3b3ob2obo8bo$32b2o4bo2bo5bo4b2o3bo2bobob2ob2obo30bobo3bo2bobo4b2ob
o31b2o3bo2bobob2ob2obo30bobo3bo2bobo4b2obo31b2o3bo2bobob2ob2obo30bobo
3bo2bobo4b2obo$33bob3o4bob2obo2b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o2b2o2bo4b3o2b
ob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob2o28b2o2b2o2bo4b3o2bob2o28b3ob2o2bo3bo2bo2bob
2o28b2o2b2o2bo4b3o2bob2o$32bo2bo5b3obobobo5b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo3bob2o
bobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo3bob2obobobo2bobo2bo28bo5b2obo
bobo2bobo2bo28bo3bob2obobobo2bobo2bo$32b2o5b2o3bo3bobob2o3bob2o6b2obo
26bo2b2o5bob2obo4b2obo26bo2bob2o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2o5bob2obo4b2obo26bo
2bob2o3bob2o6b2obo26bo2b2o5bob2obo4b2obo$37bo7b2obobo3b2obo4b2ob2o3b2o
25b2obobob2obo8bo3b2o25b2obo3b2obo4b2ob2o3b2o25b2obobob2obo8bo3b2o25b
2obo3b2obo4b2ob2o3b2o25b2obobob2obo8bo3b2o$36b3o3b3o2bo3b2o2bobob4obo
3b2o2bo25bo6bobob4o3bob2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obo3b2o2bo25bo6bobob4o3bob
2o2bo25bo2b2o2bobob4obo3b2o2bo25bo6bobob4o3bob2o2bo$35bobob4obobo8bobo
bo3b2o4bobo24bobo3b2obobobo2b4o3bobo24bobo6bobobo3b2o4bobo24bobo3b2obo
bobo2b4o3bobo24bobo6bobobo3b2o4bobo24bobo3b2obobobo2b4o3bobo$35b2ob2ob
obo2b2o6b2obo2bo2bo2b3o2b2o23b2o4bo2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o23b2o6b2obo2bo2b
o2b3o2b2o23b2o4bo2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o23b2o6b2obo2bo2bo2b3o2b2o23b2o4bo
2bobo2bo2bo3b2o2b2o$33b2o4bo4bo6b3o2bob2o3bobo2bobo31bo3bob2o3bo4bobo
30b3o2bob2o3bobo2bobo31bo3bob2o3bo4bobo30b3o2bob2o3bobo2bobo31bo3bob2o
3bo4bobo$32bo3b4o5b3o5bo2bo8bo2bobo31bobobo7bobobobo32bo2bo8bo2bobo31b
obobo7bobobobo32bo2bo8bo2bobo31bobobo7bobobobo$33b2obo4b4o3bo2b2obobo
10b2ob2o32bobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo10b2ob2o32bobo7bo2b2ob2o29b2obobo10b
2ob2o32bobo7bo2b2ob2o$34bo2bo7bobo6b2o7b2o36b2ob2o7b2o39b2o7b2o36b2ob
2o7b2o39b2o7b2o36b2ob2o7b2o$32bo2bobob2ob4ob2o2b2o10bo39bo9bo37b2o10bo
39bo9bo37b2o10bo39bo9bo$32b3o2bobo3bobo6bob2o5bobo40b2o8bo37bob2o8bo
39b2o8bo37bob2o8bo39b2o8bo$37bo2bo2bobo5b2obo5bobo38b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b
2o36b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b2o36b2obo8b2o$32b2obobo6bo7bobobo2bobo42bobo45bo
bobo47bobo45bobobo47bobo$32bob2obobo2bobobo4bo4b4o41bo2bob3o42bo4b3o
42bo2bob3o42bo4b3o42bo2bob3o$37bobob2obob3obo2bobo4bo39bo2bobo3bo40bo
2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo40bo2bobo3bo$37bobo4bo4b2ob2obob3o38b
3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o39b3ob2obob2o$38bo3b
3ob2o3b2obob2o39bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2obobo40bo3b2o
bobo$36bobobo5bob2o4bo43b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bobo41b2o4bo
bo$35bob2obobob2o4b2o2bo45b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o42b2o2bob2o
42b2o2bob2o$35bo3b2o4bob2obo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo46bo2bo$36b
2o3bobobo2bo2bobobo45bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob2obo42bobob
2obo$38b2obobob2obo3bobobo45b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b2obob2o43b
2obob2o$35bobo2bob3o2bo5bo2bo$35b2obobo5bo7b2o$38bobob4o$35b3o2bobobo$
35bo4bo5bo$41b6o2$41b2obo$41bob2o!

Maybe the hive and block can be replaced by a p4 sparker to get a glider on a different path.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Kazyan » September 19th, 2017, 10:58 am

I think this simply calls for a smaller WLS result--if the large sparkers can be reduced in such a way that glider streams can escape in the middle of the trace, the hard part is over.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Sokwe » September 19th, 2017, 4:59 pm

Kazyan wrote:I think this simply calls for a smaller WLS result--if the large sparkers can be reduced in such a way that glider streams can escape in the middle of the trace, the hard part is over.

I spent a lot of time on that, but I've been unsuccessful so far. There's just so little room to work with.

I just now noticed that there are two potential locations for the p4 oscillators. compare these two patterns:
x = 110, y = 69, rule = B3/S23
95b2o$25b2o69bo$26bo69bobo$26bobo68b2o$27b2o$100b3o$89bo10bo2bo$19bo
10b3o54b3o9bobo$17b3o10b3o53bo11b3obo$16bo11b2o3bo39b2o11b2o10b3o3b2o$
3b2o11b2o10bo2b3o39b2o7bo21b2o$3b2o23b4o2bo46b4o16bo2b2o$13bo16bob3o
44b2o3b2o15b3o$11b2obo17bo45bo3bo18b3o$10bo3bo63bo3bo$10bo2b2o63b2o2bo
16bo$10b2ob2o65bo3bo13b3o$12b2o3bo10b2o58bo8bob2o$18b2o7bo2bo58b2o5b2o
2b2o$17b2o8bo2bo57b2o7b4o$28bobo67b3o$17bo70bo$16b2o17bo51b2o17bo$16bo
bo14b3o51bobo14b3o$32bo70bo$32b2o38b2o29b2o$2b2o8b2o16b2o2bo36bobo9b2o
16b2o2bo$bobo8bobo14b4obo36bo11bobo14b4obo$bo7b2obobo12bo3b2obob2o32b
2o8b2obobo12bo3b2obob2o$2o7bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo43bo2bob2o10bo2bo4bobo$
10bobo2bo13bo3b2obo44bobo2bo13bo3b2obo$9b2obob2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o42b2obo
b2o5b2o6bobo2bob2o$12bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo44bob2o5b2o6b4obo3bo$12bobobo9b
2o5bobob2o44bobobo9b2o5bobob2o$11b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo44b2o2b3o8b7o2bobo$
14bo6b2o7bobob2obo47bo6b2o7bobob2obo$11b3o2bo4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o43b3o2b
o4b2o4b2obobobo2b2o$10bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo44bo2b2o2b2o10bob2o3bo$11bo
3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o43bo3bo3bo6bo2bob2o4b2o$12b2o5bo9b2o7bo44b2o5bo9b2o
7bo$14b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o47b2o3bob2obobo2bo5b3o$10b3o4b2o2bob2obob2ob
o3bo45b3o4b2o2bob2obob2obo3bo$9bo2bob2obo3bo3bo4b4obo44bo2bob2obo3bo3b
o4b4obo$9b2o5b5ob2o10bo45b2o5b5ob2o10bo$20bo2bobobo2b2obo57bo2bobobo2b
2obo$13b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o49b2obobo2bo3b4o2bob2o$12bo2bo2b2obobobo2bo
bo2bo49bo2bo2b2obobobo2bobo2bo$10bo2b4o3bob2o6b2obo47bo2b4o3bob2o6b2ob
o$10b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o46b2obo3b2obo4bo3bo3b2o$11bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o
2bo46bo2b2o2bobob4obob4o2bo$9bobo3b2obobobo4b3o2bobo45bobo3b2obobobo4b
3o2bobo$9b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o44b2o3b2ob2obo2bo6b2o2b2o$14b2o3bob2o
3b2o3bobo51b2o3bob2o3b2o3bobo$19bo6b3o2bobo56bo6b3o2bobo$14b2obobo7bo
2b2ob2o50b2obobo7bo2b2ob2o$15bob2o7b2o58bob2o7b2o$15b2o9bo59b2o9bo$15b
ob2o8bo58bob2o8bo$17bo8b2o60bo8b2o$14b2obobo65b2obobo$16b2ob3o65b2ob3o
$13bo2bobo3bo61bo2bobo3bo$11b3o4bob2o60b3o4bob2o$10bo3b2obobo61bo3b2ob
obo$11b2o2bobobo62b2o2bobobo$13b2ob2ob2o63b2ob2ob2o$13bo2bo67bo2bo$14b
obob2obo63bobob2obo$15b2obob2o64b2obob2o!

I have only ever tried the placement on the left. Here is a JLS file showing the necessary cell settings for the placement on the left (change the extension to .jdf after downloading):
p52-necessary-cells.txt
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The pattern on the right gives less room near the output glider, but more room near the Herschel track.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby muzik » October 4th, 2017, 5:27 pm

Not particularly interesting:
x = 30, y = 36, rule = B3/S23
5b2o16b2o$5b2o16b2o11$3b5o14b5o$2bob3obo12bob3obo$3bo3bo14bo3bo$4b3o
16b3o$5bo18bo2$14b2o$14b2o$3bo22bo$3bo22bo$2bobo5bo3b2o3bo5bobo$b2ob2o
2bobo3b2o3bobo2b2ob2o$o5bo2b2o8b2o2bo5bo$3bo22bo$2o3b2o16b2o3b2o3$2bo
24bo$2bo24bo$bo26bo3$3b2o20b2o$3b2o20b2o!


pn LWSS gun -> p2n oscillator:
x = 118, y = 45, rule = B3/S23
b2o5b2o98b2o5b2o$b2o5b2o98b2o5b2o16$2obo3bob2o96b2obo3bob2o$o2bo3bo2bo
96bo2bo3bo2bo$b3o3b3o98b3o3b3o5$41bo2bo28bo2bo$19b4o22bo26bo22b4o$18bo
3bo18bo3bo26bo3bo18bo3bo$b2o19bo19b4o26b4o19bo19b2o$b2o15bo2bo74bo2bo
15b2o2$58b2o$58b2o$37b3o8b2o18b2o8b3o$21b2o12bo3bo8b2o18b2o8bo3bo12b2o
$12bo7b2o12bo4bo38bo4bo12b2o7bo$b2o8b2o9bo11bo3bo40bo3bo11bo9b2o8b2o$b
2o7b2o94b2o7b2o$11b2o2b2o17bo3bo40bo3bo17b2o2b2o$34bo4bo38bo4bo$35bo3b
o8b2o18b2o8bo3bo$37b3o8b2o18b2o8b3o$11b2o2b2o84b2o2b2o$b2o7b2o94b2o7b
2o$b2o8b2o92b2o8b2o$12bo92bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby SebTvHd » October 12th, 2017, 9:02 pm

A beacon and cover replacing 1 of the tubs of the first post's p17, not sure whether this is trivial or not.
10b2o$10b2o$5b2ob2o$6bob2o$6bo$7b3o$9bo2b2o$13bo$7b6o$6bo3bo2b3o$6b2o3b2o3bob2o$10bo2bo2bobobo$6b5obobobo3bo2bo$5bo8bobo3bobobo$5bo2b5obob2ob2o2bo$2b2obobo3bob2o3bobo$2bobobobobo3bobobobobo$4bobo3b2obo3bobob2o$bo2b2ob2obob5o2bo$obobo3bobo8bo$bo2bo3bobobob5o$4bobobo2bo2bo$5b2obo3b2o3b2o$9b3o2bo3bo$12b6o$11bo$11b2o2bo$14bobo$15bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby dvgrn » October 12th, 2017, 9:12 pm

SebTvHd wrote:A beacon and cover replacing 1 of the tubs of the first post's p17, not sure whether this is trivial or not...

Yup, that's trivial by the definition. No period 34 cells, only p1 and p2 and p17 ones.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby AbhpzTa » October 15th, 2017, 5:16 pm

Sokwe wrote:I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:...


How about...
#C p52 2G-to-B
x = 155, y = 104, rule = B3/S23
80bo$80b3o$83bo$82b2o3$92b2o$92b2o4$86bo$85b3o$84b6o$83b2o4b3o$82b2o4b
2o2bo$83b2o3bo4bo$78b2o4bo7b2o$77bobo9bobob3o$77bo12bo3bobo$76b2o7bo
10bo$84bo11b2o$85bo16b2o$79b2o20bobo$78bobo18b3o$80bo2b2o10b2obo3bo$
83b2o8bo5bob2o$93bo5bo$93bo5bob2o$87b3o5b2obo3bo$87bo11b3o$88bo12bobo$
83b2o17b2o$82bobo$82bo$81b2o$66b2o$65bobo$67bo4$100b3o$100bo$101bo5$
53b2o$52bobo$54bo4$113b3o$113bo$114bo5$40b2o$39bobo$41bo4$126b3o$126bo
$127bo5$27b2o$26bobo$28bo4$139b3o$139bo$140bo5$14b2o$13bobo$15bo4$152b
3o$152bo$153bo5$b2o$obo$2bo!
#C p52 (H+G)-to-(H+G) , from "13131"
x = 249, y = 102, rule = B3/S23
59b3o$59bo$60bo4$52b2o27bo$51b2o27b2o$53bo26bobo4$44b2o$44bobo25b3o26b
2o$44bo27bo28bobo$73bo27bo3$37bo$36b2o27b2o27bo$36bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o$
66bo26bobo25b2o$115b2o6bo9b2o$117bo15bo4bo3b2o$117bob2o18bob2obo$28b3o
26b2o55b3o4bo15bobo3bo$28bo28bobo25b3o2b3o28bo10bo2b2ob3o$29bo20b2o5bo
27bo7bo4b3o18b3o10b2obo3b2o$50bobo14b4ob2o3b2o7bo3b2obo6bo32b2o8bo$49b
2ob3o14b5o3bobo12b3o3bobo42bo$49b2o3b2o16bo2bo3bo13b2o3b2o$21b2o3b2o5b
o21b2o9bo2b2o3bo$20b2o3b2obo5bo20bo11b4o3bo4bo$b2o4b2o3bo9bo2b2obo5b2o
18bo20bo3bo26b2o$3b5o4b2o14b2o3b2o3b2o37bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$ob2o9b2o14b
o3bo44bo27bo27bo28bobo$b4obo2b5o121bo27bo$5bo3b4obo$12b3o27bo$12b2o27b
2o27b2o27bo$14bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$71bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o$
128bo26bobo25b2o$185bo2$33b3o26b2o$33bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$34bo27bo27bo
28bobo25b3o26b2o$91bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o$148bo27bo27bo$205bo$55bo$54b
2o27b2o27bo$54bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$84bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$
141bo26bobo25b2o27b2o$198bo26bobo2$75b2o$75bobo25b3o26b2o$75bo27bo28bo
bo25b3o26b2o$104bo27bo27bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$161bo27bo27bo28bobo$218bo
27bo2$96b2o27bo$95b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$97bo26bobo25b2o27b2o27b2o27bo$154b
o26bobo25b2o27b2o$211bo26bobo3$116b3o26b2o$116bo28bobo25b3o26b2o$117bo
27bo27bo28bobo25b3o$174bo27bo27bo$231bo2$138bo$137b2o27b2o27bo$137bobo
25b2o27b2o27b2o$167bo26bobo25b2o$224bo3$158b2o$158bobo25b3o26b2o$158bo
27bo28bobo$187bo27bo4$179b2o27bo$178b2o27b2o$180bo26bobo5$199b3o$199bo
$200bo!
???
Iteration of sigma(n)+tau(n)-n [sigma(n)+tau(n)-n : OEIS A163163] (e.g. 16,20,28,34,24,44,46,30,50,49,11,3,3, ...) :
965808 is period 336 (max = 207085118608).
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby calcyman » October 15th, 2017, 5:56 pm

AbhpzTa wrote:
Sokwe wrote:I've been thinking about a potential p52 gun recently. A p52 Herschel track is possible, but I have only been able to get gliders out of the very end of the track:...


How about...


They do look enticing, but they're incompatible with the p52 track; we need a method to suppress the red glider:

x = 543, y = 152, rule = LifeHistory
479.2A.A$479.A.2A2$477.6A$94.A382.A3.B.A4.A$93.2AB383.A.ABA2.3A$93.AB
AB381.2ABA.A.A$94.4B370.2A7.A3.B.A.A.2A$95.4B368.A2.A5.A2.3A.A2.A.A$
96.4B165.2A.A.2A43.2A.A.2A43.2A.A.2A43.2A.A.2A45.A.A.A3.A.2A.B.A.2A$
97.4B164.A.2A.A.A42.A.2A.A.A42.A.2A.A.A42.A.2A.A.A45.A.A.A2.A2.A.B.A
3.2A$85.3A10.4B12.2A154.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A46.A2.A.2A.A.2A.2A3.
A$85.A3B10.4B11.ABA149.2A.2A.2A42.2A.2A.2A42.2A.2A.2A42.2A.2A.2A45.2A
.2A4.2A.B.A.2A.A$86.A3B10.4B10.A3B149.A.A.A2.2A41.A.A.A2.2A41.A.A.A2.
2A41.A.A.A2.2A43.A.A2.2A.A3.A.B.A.A$87.4B10.4B10.4B148.A.A.2A3.A40.A.
A.2A3.A40.A.A.2A3.A40.A.A.2A3.A39.2A.A.2A3.2A.2A3B.A36.2A$88.4B10.4B
10.4B145.2A.A.2B.3A39.2A.A.2B.3A39.2A.A.2B.3A39.2A.A.2B.3A38.3A.A.2B.
2A4.A2.3A.A34.2B2A$89.4B10.4B10.4B143.A3.A.A2.A40.A3.A.A2.A40.A3.A.A
2.A40.A3.A.A2.A39.A4.A.A2.A.3A.A.2A.A.A33.2BAB$78.2A10.4B10.3BA10.4B
143.3A.4A42.3A.2A2B42.3A.4A42.3A.2A2B41.4A.4A4.A.A.3AB.A.2A.A27.4B$
77.2A2B10.4B10.B2AB10.4B12.2A130.A.B.AB44.A.A.2A44.A.B.AB44.A.A.2A39.
A.A2.A.B.AB6.A.2B2.BA.A.2A26.4B$78.BA2B10.4B10.ABAB10.4B10.2A2B121.2A
8.A.2A36.2A8.A.2B36.2A8.A.2A36.2A8.A.2B38.A.A5.A.2A5.A.A.2B2.A30.4B$
79.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.BA2B120.A8.2A.B37.A8.2A.A37.A8.2A.B37.A8.2A.A
38.A.A5.2A.B6.A.2BA.A.A2.3A24.4B$80.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B120.A9.B2A
37.A9.2AB37.A9.B2A37.A9.2AB37.A9.B2A2.2A.AB2AB2A.A.A2.A23.4B$81.4B10.
4B10.4B10.4B10.4B118.2A7.2A.2B36.2A7.2A.AB36.2A7.2A.2B36.2A7.2A.AB36.
2A7.2A.2B3.A.A2.B.AB2A2.A24.4B$70.2A10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B110.2A.
2A2.A7.A.A.AB29.2A.2A2.A7.A.A.2A29.2A.2A2.A7.A.A.AB29.2A.2A2.A7.A.A.
2A29.2A.2A2.A7.A.A.AB2.A3.3A2B3.A.2A22.4B$70.ABA10.4B10.B3A10.4B10.2B
2A10.4B110.A.A.ABAB6.A.A2B31.A.A.B3A6.A.3B31.A.A.ABAB6.A.A2B31.A.A.B
3A6.A.3B31.A.A.ABAB6.A.A2B4.3A2.AB5A3.A20.4B$70.A3B10.4B10.A3B10.4B
10.BABA10.4B11.3A95.A.A2.A2B3.2A.A2.2AB30.A.A2.B2A3.2A.A2.B2A30.A.A2.
A2B3.2A.A2.2AB30.A.A2.B2A3.2A.A2.B2A30.A.A2.A2B3.2A.A2.2AB6.A.4B4.2A
20.4B$71.4B10.4B10.A3B10.4B10.A3B10.4B10.A3B92.2A2.4A.2A.A2.A.4AB3.2A
23.2A2.2A2B.2B.A2.A.2AB2A3.2A23.2A2.4A.2A.A2.A.4AB3.2A23.2A2.2A2B.2B.
A2.A.2AB2A3.2A23.2A2.4A.2A.A2.A.4AB3.2A.2A.A.2B3A21.4B$72.4B10.4B10.
4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.A3B92.A.A2.B2A2B2.A.A.A.2B3.A.A24.A.A2.3A2B2.A.A.
A.2A3.A.A24.A.A2.B2A2B2.A.A.A.2B3.A.A24.A.A2.3A2B2.A.A.A.2A3.A.A24.A.
A2.B2A2B2.A.A.A.2B5.A.A.4B.B.A20.2A2B$73.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B
10.4B90.A2.2A2B.B.B3A.A.A2.BA2.A25.A2.4A.A.4A.A.A2.2A2.A25.A2.2A2B.B.
B3A.A.A2.BA2.A25.A2.4A.A.4A.A.A2.2A2.A25.A2.2A2B.B.B3A.A.A2.BA3.A2.AB
A.2A3B20.2B2A$63.A10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B90.2A3.5A4.A.2A.
B.A.2A25.2A3.A3BA4.A.2A.B.A.2A25.2A3.5A4.A.2A.B.A.2A25.2A3.A3BA4.A.2A
.B.A.2A25.2A3.5A4.A.2A.B.A.A.2A5.AB2A19.2BAB$62.2AB10.4B10.2B2A10.4B
10.3BA10.4B10.4B10.4B90.A.2A.4A.2A.A3.AB2A2.A26.A.2A.4B.2A.A3.4A2.A
26.A.2A.4A.2A.A3.AB2A2.A26.A.2A.4B.2A.A3.4A2.A26.A.2A.4A.2A.A3.AB2A.A
3.5A2B.B2.2A14.4B$62.ABAB10.4B10.2A2B10.4B10.B2AB10.4B10.2B2A10.4B13.
A75.A2.A.B2.B.A.A.2A.2B2.A28.A2.A.A2.A.A.A.2A.BA2.A28.A2.A.B2.B.A.A.
2A.2B2.A28.A2.A.A2.A.A.A.2A.BA2.A28.A2.A.B2.B.A.A.2A.2B2.A.A.A.B3A4.A
2.A13.4B$63.4B10.4B10.BA2B10.4B10.ABAB10.4B10.2A2B10.4B11.2AB73.2A.A
2.A2BA3.A2.2AB3A28.2A.A2.4A3.A2.ABAB2A28.2A.A2.A2BA3.A2.2AB3A28.2A.A
2.4A3.A2.ABAB2A28.2A.A2.A2BA3.A2.2AB3A2.A.2A.5B3A.A13.4B$64.4B10.4B
10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.BA2B10.4B10.ABAB73.A.5A.A.A2.A3.3B30.A.2A2BA.A
.A2.A3.3B30.A.5A.A.A2.A3.3B30.A.2A2BA.A.A2.A3.3B30.A.5A.A.A2.A3.3B3.A
3.B.2B2A4.2A11.4B$65.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B71.A5.
4A.2A.4A4B2.2A24.A5.4B.2A.5A3B2.2A24.A5.4A.2A.4A4B2.2A24.A5.4B.2A.5A
3B2.2A24.A5.4A.2A.4A4B3.4ABABAB3A13.4B$66.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B
10.4B10.4B10.4B69.A.3ABA3.A3.A3.B.4A2.A23.A.4AB3.A3.A3.A.2ABA2.A23.A.
3ABA3.A3.A3.B.4A2.A23.A.4AB3.A3.A3.A.2ABA2.A23.A.3ABA3.A3.A3.B.4A5.A
2.B2AB.A.2A9.4B$54.3A10.4B10.2B2A10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B10.4B
68.A3.A.AB2A.2A.A2.AB2.A.3A24.A3.A.2ABA.2A.A2.2A2.B.3A24.A3.A.AB2A.2A
.A2.AB2.A.3A24.A3.A.2ABA.2A.A2.2A2.B.3A24.A3.A.AB2A.2A.A2.AB2.A.6A.AB
.BAB.A.A9.4B$54.A3B10.4B10.BABA10.4B10.B3A10.4B10.2B2A10.4B10.4B10.4B
65.3A5.B.3BA.2A.A.A.BA26.3A5.A.BABA.2A.A.B.2A26.3A5.B.3BA.2A.A.A.BA
26.3A5.A.BABA.2A.A.B.2A26.3A5.B.3BA.2A.A.A.BA5.A2.2A2B.B2A2.A7.4B$55.
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10.4B!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby 83bismuth38 » October 15th, 2017, 9:28 pm

OH MY GOODNESS IS THIS A NEW PHOENIX(technically it's not an expansion of phoenix 1):
x = 20, y = 20, rule = B3/S23
10bo$8bobo$12bo$6b2o$12b2o$6bo$4bo9bobo$2bobo11bo$18bo$2o$18b2o$bo$3bo
11bobo$3bobo9bo$13bo$6b2o$12b2o$7bo$9bobo$9bo!

EDIT: what about this?:
x = 10, y = 12, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5bobo$3bo$8b2o$2b2o$8bo$bo$6b2o$2o$6bo$2bobo$4bo!
or this:
x = 14, y = 14, rule = B3/S23
5bo$5bobo$3bo5bo$9bobo$2b2o$12b2o$bo$12bo$2o$10b2o$2bobo$4bo5bo$6bobo$
8bo!
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Sokwe » October 15th, 2017, 9:52 pm

Regarding a potential p52 gun, the original p52 reflector creates a large piece of debris that needs to be deleted by an eater3. Crashing a glider into the debris or applying a p4 sparker might give something useful. Here's a 180-degree reflection reaction that seems useless:
x = 40, y = 51, rule = B3/S23
20b2o$16b2o2bobo$16bo2bob2o$18b3obob2o$14b4o3bo2bo$14bo3bo5bo$16bobob
4o$15b2ob2o$18bo2b3o$18bo5bo$5b2o9bobo5bo12bobo$5b3o7bobob4obob2o9b2o$
14bo2bob4ob2obo10bo$5bo2bo4bo3bo$5bobo6b3o2bo2bob3o$7bo8bobo6bobo$17b
2o3b2o3bo$5bo6bo5b2ob2ob3o$2o2b3o3b2o2bo4bo2bobo$2o3bobo6b2o$6b3o2b2ob
2o3bo3bo$7bo13bo2$24bobo$6b2o16b2o$6b2o17bo$13bo$13bo$2b2o8bobo$3bo9bo
bo$3bob2o6b3o9b2o$4bo2bo6bo10bobo$6b2o19bo$27b2o2$21bobo$22b2o$22bo4$
6b2o$7b2o$6bo5$34bobo$35b2o$35bo!


83bismuth38 wrote:Is this a new phoenix?

No, those are all well-known.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby mniemiec » October 15th, 2017, 11:42 pm

83bismuth38 wrote:OH MY GOODNESS IS THIS A NEW PHOENIX(technically it's not an expansion of phoenix 1): ... EDIT: what about this?: ... or this: ...

It is ridiculously easy to create period 2 oscillators by combining small pieces together as one would toy train tracks. It's even easy to create glider syntheses of rectangular phoenixes like your last two examples. I have syntheses for those two that were last updated in 2002, and I think Dave Buckingham first synthesized them in the 1990s or earlier. You should familiarize yourself with some of the existing pattern collections, like jslife. You will find many expandable oscillators like this one there.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby hkoenig » October 16th, 2017, 1:49 am

A long time ago I did some investigations into Period 2 oscillators, trying to classify the various rotors and their constituent parts, and understand how to fit those parts together. I've still got some pages I last edited back in 2006 at http://pentadecathlon.com/rotors/rotors.php?page=0 on this subject.

Also, somewhere in these forums I posted a few RLE patterns showing some of the large oscillators that can be constructed from all of these parts. They demonstrated that there's a lot of very simple parts that can be combined together in fairly complicated ways.

Also, Nicolai Beluchenko published "Oscichemistry" back around 2004, a more developed investigation into this topic. I think David Greene made that available on his server, and I'm sure there are links to it floating around here.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Apple Bottom » October 16th, 2017, 5:09 am

hkoenig wrote:Also, Nicolai Beluchenko published "Oscichemistry" back around 2004, a more developed investigation into this topic. I think David Greene made that available on his server, and I'm sure there are links to it floating around here.


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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby 83bismuth38 » October 16th, 2017, 7:32 am

ah, oh well. i got super excited but reminded myself it was VERY small so I shouldn't get my hopes up... oh well, it's fine. saves more potential for later :P
x = 8, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
3b2o$3b2o$2b3o$4bobo$2obobobo$3bo2bo$2bobo2bo$2bo4bo$2bo4bo$2bo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby A for awesome » October 16th, 2017, 11:07 am

Monomer form of the p18 honey farm hassler:
x = 34, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
3bo$3b3o16b2o$6bo14bo2bo$5bo11b2o2bob2o3b2o$5bo3bo7bobobo2bobo2bo$10bo
8bobo2bob2obob2o$5bo5bo6bobobobobo2bobo$5bo5bo6bo5bobob2o2bo$5bo5bo15b
o2bobo$2b2o2bo3bo7b3o7bobob2o$bobo3b3o17bo2bobo$bo16bo5bobob2o2bo$2o
16bobobobobo2bobo$5b2o12bobo2bob2obob2o$6bo10bobobo2bobo2bo$3b3o11b2o
2bob2o3b2o$3bo17bo2bo$22b2o!


EDIT: 4 new p7s derived from a component here:
x = 70, y = 18, rule = B3/S23
5bobo15bobo15bobo20bobo$2o2bob2o2bo7b2o2bob2o2bo7b2o2bob2o2bo12b2o2bob
2o2bo$o3bo3b3o7bo3bo3b3o7bo3bo3b3o12bo3bo3b3o$b3ob2o12b3ob2o12b3ob2o
17b3ob2o$3bobob2o12bobob2o12bobob2o17bobob2o$7bobo15bobo15bobo20bobo$
5b2obo14b2obo14b2obo19b2obo5$6bob2o15bob2o15bob2o16b2obo$5bobo16bobo
16bobo20bobo$6b2obobo13b2obobo13b2obobo12bobob2o$8b2ob3o13b2ob3o13b2ob
3o8b3ob2o$4b3o3bo3bo8b3o3bo3bo8b3o3bo3bo6bo3bo3b3o$4bo2b2obo2b2o8bo2b
2obo2b2o8bo2b2obo2b2o6b2o2bob2o2bo$7bobo16bobo16bobo16bobo!
x₁=ηx
V ⃰_η=c²√(Λη)
K=(Λu²)/2
Pₐ=1−1/(∫^∞_t₀(p(t)ˡ⁽ᵗ⁾)dt)

$$x_1=\eta x$$
$$V^*_\eta=c^2\sqrt{\Lambda\eta}$$
$$K=\frac{\Lambda u^2}2$$
$$P_a=1-\frac1{\int^\infty_{t_0}p(t)^{l(t)}dt}$$

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Kazyan » October 20th, 2017, 10:16 pm

p46 shuttles have a new friend:

x = 26, y = 13, rule = B3/S23
14bo$3b2o7b2ob2o$3b2o7b2ob2o5bob2o$22b2obo2$2b2o$3bo$3o$o13bo$13bobobob2o$12bob2ob2obo$12bo$11b2o!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby dvgrn » October 20th, 2017, 10:48 pm

Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend...

Wow! I wish it had been p41 instead of p46, but maybe that will be the next new high-period oscillator. Meanwhile -- very nice phi spark! And obviously pretty simple to construct, though I don't think slmake can quite do it without a few hints added to the bespoke folder.

x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
22bo$22bobo$22b2o6$24b2o$3b2o19bo$3b2o17bobo$8b2o12b2o$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$
3o$o13bo$13bobobo$12bob2ob3o$12bo7bo$11b2o6b2o!

Was that a case of finding a clearly hopeless PL38P conduit, and then thinking, "No, that PR8P conduit couldn't possibly make that connection"... and then it did? Or did you run a speculative search for something to move the PR8P output back to its input?
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Kazyan » October 20th, 2017, 11:20 pm

dvgrn wrote:Wow! I wish it had been p41 instead of p46, but maybe that will be the next new high-period oscillator. Meanwhile -- very nice phi spark! And obviously pretty simple to construct, though I don't think slmake can quite do it without a few hints added to the bespoke folder.

x = 26, y = 21, rule = B3/S23
22bo$22bobo$22b2o6$24b2o$3b2o19bo$3b2o17bobo$8b2o12b2o$8b2o$2b2o$3bo$
3o$o13bo$13bobobo$12bob2ob3o$12bo7bo$11b2o6b2o!

Was that a case of finding a clearly hopeless PL38P conduit, and then thinking, "No, that PR8P conduit couldn't possibly make that connection"... and then it did? Or did you run a speculative search for something to move the PR8P output back to its input?


Closer to the latter--I'd wanted to restore a block near a PR8P in such a way that a glider could make a matching Pi for a new G-to-X, but then I was tweaking one of the search results and the thing started oscillating on me. I'll be happy even if nothing else comes out of that search. :D
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby mniemiec » October 21st, 2017, 12:03 am

Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend: ...

Very nice! Here is a trivial 19-glider synthesis. (The pi can be made directly without needing a block).
x = 146, y = 88, rule = B3/S23
120bo$120bobo$120boo10$102bo$101bo$20bobo78b3o$21boo108boo$21bo110bo$
23bo13boobo16boobo13booboobo21b3o9booboobo11bobooboobo$18boobbo14boboo
12boobboboo12boboboboo21bo10boboboboo12boboboboo$17boo3b3o29boo18bo28b
o10bo19bo$19bo33bo$14boo$15boo$14bo12$3bo7boo38boo38boo38boo$4bo7bo39b
o39bo39bo$bb3o7bobooboobo31bobooboobo31bobooboobo31bobooboobo$13bobobo
boo32boboboboo32boboboboo32boboboboo$bo12bo25bo13bo25bo13bo25bo13bo$b
oo37b3o37b3o37b3o$obo40bo39bo39bo$6bo35boo38boo38boo$5boo$5bobo$123boo
$83b3o37boo$83bo$84bo$80b3o$82bo$81bo14$11boo38boo38boo38boo$12bo39bo
39bo39bo$12bobooboobo31bobooboobo31bobooboobo31bobooboobo$13boboboboo
32boboboboo32boboboboo32boboboboo$o13bo25bo13bo25bo13bo25bo13bo$3o37b
3o37b3o37b3o$3bo39bo39bo39bo$bboo38boo38boo38boo$$62boobo36boobo36boob
o$3boo14b3o21boo17boboo17boo17boboo17boo7booboo5boboo$3boo16bobboo17b
oo38boo38boo7booboo$20bobboo3b3o103bo$25bobbo$19bo9bo$19boo$18bobo64bo
$85boo$84bobo$$105boo$105bobo$105bo!
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby gmc_nxtman » October 21st, 2017, 1:15 am

Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend...


Wow.
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby dbell » October 21st, 2017, 1:31 am

Here is a p46 glider gun built from this new oscillator and a single p46 shuttle.

x = 31, y = 44
17boo5boo$17boo5boo11$17bo7bo$15boboo5boobo$15bo3booboo3bo$16bo3bobo3b
o$17b3o3b3o10$14bo14bo$13b3o14bo$12bobobo11b3o$12bobobo$10boob3oboo$9b
obooboboobo$3boo3boobo5boboo$3boo4boobo3boboobboboo$10b3o3b3o3boobo$$
bboo$3bo$3o$o13bo$13boboboboo$12bobooboobo$12bo$11boo!

I looked a bit, but didn't find a gun using two of the new oscillators.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Cclee » October 21st, 2017, 1:40 am

NIce new osc
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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Saka » October 21st, 2017, 1:52 am

dbell wrote:Here is a p46 glider gun built from this new oscillator and a single p46 shuttle...
I looked a bit, but didn't find a gun using two of the new oscillators.

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Cool and welcome to the forums!
Please put the pattern RLE around code tags, like this:
[code ]RLE[/code ] but without the spaces
x = 31, y = 44
17boo5boo$17boo5boo11$17bo7bo$15boboo5boobo$15bo3booboo3bo$16bo3bobo3b
o$17b3o3b3o10$14bo14bo$13b3o14bo$12bobobo11b3o$12bobobo$10boob3oboo$9b
obooboboobo$3boo3boobo5boboo$3boo4boobo3boboobboboo$10b3o3b3o3boobo$$
bboo$3bo$3o$o13bo$13boboboboo$12bobooboobo$12bo$11boo!


Also, I'm guessing you're David Bell?
Everyone, please stop posting B/S about CA
x = 17, y = 10, rule = B3/S23
b2ob2obo5b2o$11b4obo$2bob3o2bo2b3o$bo3b2o4b2o$o2bo2bob2o3b4o$bob2obo5b
o2b2o$2b2o4bobo2b3o$bo3b5ob2obobo$2bo5bob2o$4bob2o2bobobo!

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby dbell » October 21st, 2017, 2:10 am

You guessed correctly. It is me.

Thanks for reposting my pattern in the preferred format. I'll do it correctly in the future.

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Re: Oscillator Discussion Thread

Postby Apple Bottom » October 21st, 2017, 6:32 am

Kazyan wrote:p46 shuttles have a new friend:


Very cool! (That's xp46_wbdz0ggy2bdz2ddy125b8ozz066wc4ozy311, BTW.)

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