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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby oh6 » February 3rd, 2012, 4:00 am

I spent a while trying oscillators from the Life Lexicon in HighLife, then got tired of doing it by hand and checked them automatically, and was surprised to discover that "popover" works, at the same period, even though it isn't strictly compatible. The b6 rule causes the stabilizing blocks to recover one generation earlier, but affects nothing else.

Two other oscillators from the Lexicon work, but differently:

"cuphook" variant, p4 instead of p3
"p3 snake pit", p4 instead of p3
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » February 16th, 2012, 6:32 am

B ship from DotLife converted into long S by a single block catalyst:
x = 13, y = 7, rule = B3/S023
2o$2o$10b3o$9b2o$8b2o2bo$9bo$10b2o!


This one makes a clean R-pentomino (to the extent that Rs can be call'd "clean" in this rule, anyway)
x = 13, y = 9, rule = B3/S023
2o$2o3$10b3o$9b2o$8b2o2bo$9bo$10b2o!


And this one works as an eater:
x = 20, y = 7, rule = B3/S023
2o$bo$17b2o$16bo$15b2o2bo$16b2o$17b3o!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » March 19th, 2012, 8:36 pm

P86 agar in Seeds
x = 288, y = 288, rule = B2/S
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Paul Tooke » July 20th, 2012, 9:39 am

Strictly speaking this wasn't found by accident - I just wasn't expecting to find anything at all. Whilst investigating the possibility of generalising gfind to search in isotropic non-totalistic two-state rules I found that I had to consider the possibility of birth with just one neighbour. In totalistic rules, no spaceship could exist with B1 since every pattern explodes at lightspeed in all directions. In non-totalistic rules there are two forms of B1 rule, in Alan Hensel's extended rule notation these are B1c (birth on a single 'corner' parent) and B1e (birth on a single 'edge' parent.) B1c causes patterns to explode, but what about B1e? As it happens, not only was I able to find a spaceship in B1e2-a/S13, but it travels at less than light speed (2c/4)!

Here is that spaceship (with the rule edited slightly, Golly can't interpret the non-totalistic rule extensions):
x = 20, y = 30, rule = B1e2-aS13
2b3o$b5o2bobo$7obobo2b5o$3ob3o2bo3bo3bo$bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$9bo3bo3b
o$2b3o4bo$2bo3b2ob2o$2bo4bo2b2o2bobo$2b4o3bo6bo$3bo5bo2b4obo$4bo
b2obob2o2b4o$3o4b3o4b2o2b2o$o2b2o2b2o5bo3b2o$obo2b7obo4bo$o3b3o2b
ob2obobobo$2bobo2bobo2bobob3o$2bo3b2o6bo$2bo2bo10bo$2bobo4bo6bo$
2bo4bo5bo$5bobo3bo3bo$5bob3obobo$bo6b2obob2o$o5bobobobo$2bobo3bo
3bobobobo$obo3bobo3bobo3bo$obobo5bo3bobo$5bo2b2o6bo$3bobo8bobo!


... and here is a rule table for this rule. Save it as B1e2-aS13.table in Golly's rules folder in order to view the pattern above in Golly.
# Golly rule-table for B1e2-a/S13.
# This is in Alan Hensel's extended rule notation for isotropic, 2-state
# non-totalistic rules.  B1e is birth on a single orthogally adjacent
# parent. B2-a is birth on two parents that aren't orthogonally
# adjacent (as in David Bell's 'Just Friends' rule. S13 have their
# usual totalistic meaning.
n_states:2
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect
var a={0,1}
var b={0,1}
var c={0,1}
var d={0,1}
0,0,0,0,a,0,0,1,0,1
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,1
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,0,1
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,1
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0,1
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,1,0
1,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,0
1,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,1,0
1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1,0,0
1,a,b,c,d,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0
1,0,a,b,1,0,1,1,1,0
1,a,b,c,1,1,0,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1,0,0
1,0,0,1,0,0,1,1,1,0
1,a,b,1,0,1,0,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0
1,0,0,1,0,1,1,1,0,0
1,0,0,1,1,0,0,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,0,1,1,0,0
1,0,0,1,1,1,0,0,1,0
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0
1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » September 7th, 2012, 2:16 am

Noticed a small 5c/23 puffer in 124/3/3.
x = 4, y = 2, rule = 124/3/3
4A$.2A!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Extrementhusiast » September 7th, 2012, 5:13 pm

This wickstretcher gets burned twice:
x = 105, y = 9, rule = B0157/S3
28bo8bo8bo8bo9bo$2b3o15b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o2bo5b36obo$b6o3b2o7b5o5b4o5b
4o5b4o5b5ob3o39bo$15o3b7o3b6o3b6o3b6o3b7ob2o$7ob8ob8o3b6o3b6o3b6o3b7ob
2obo$6o3b15o2bob6o3b6o3b6o3b7ob2o$b2o7b6o3b2o8b4o5b4o5b4o5b5ob3o39bo$
11b3o15b3o6b3o6b3o6b3o2bo5b36obo$28bo8bo8bo8bo9bo!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » October 6th, 2012, 3:38 pm

Some large natural oscillators in a Life-derived Generations rule:
x = 9, y = 5, rule = 2367/35678/3
2A$2A$7.A$6.3A$6.2A!


This is a rotating p144; delete the block and it turns into a p80 with enormous sparks.

(Incidentally has anyone ever found a "rotating puffer"?)
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Extrementhusiast » October 6th, 2012, 5:51 pm

21c/88 diagonal rake:
x = 6, y = 16, rule = B0146/S012
bobo$3b2o$3bobo$3b2o$bobo$2b3o$b4o$2b2o$2b2o$2b2o$2b2o$2b2o$6o$2b2o$b
4o$2b2o!


(9,14)c/165 puffer:
x = 8, y = 6, rule = B368/S237
3o$obo$obo$7bo$7bo$7bo!


c/3 diagonal wickstretcher plus in-wick replicator:
x = 38, y = 38, rule = B02347/S1
37bo$34b2o$33b2obo$32b5o$31b5o$30b5o$29bob3o$28bobobo$27b3obo$26bob3o$
25bobobo$24bobobo$23bobobo$22bobobo$21bobobo$20bobobo$19b3obo$18bob3o$
17bobobo$16b3obo$15bob3o$14bobobo$13bobobo$12b3obo$11bob3o$10b3obo$9bo
b3o$8b3obo$7bob3o$6b3obo$5bob3o$4b3obo$3bob3o$2bobobo$bobobo$3obo$b3o$
2bo!


c/2 wickstretcher plus in-wick backrake:
x = 41, y = 7, rule = B0156/S0
40bo$4bob34o$2bo2b9ob7ob7ob9o$o4bo3b5o3b5o3b5o3b6o$o4bo3b5o3b5o3b5o3b
6o$2bo2b34o$4bo34bo!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » October 10th, 2012, 5:29 pm

Tropylium wrote:(Incidentally has anyone ever found a "rotating puffer"?)

Answering myself: a B-heptomino in Life + B4 from 4 diagonal neighbors is just this!

The pattern proceeds as normally until the 2nd glider. At this point, instead of a block and a ship, one side creates a new clean B (the other side creates a boat and a loaf instead of a phi spark). This then proceeds 180° in the other direction, cleans up the initial block of the 1st B with its 2nd glider (!!), creates a new B at the starting location, which finally collides with the 2nd block created by the pattern.

Also, a century becomes a 23c/110 puffer under this tweak. (For some reason, in a whole lot of nearly Life-like rules, centuries are considerably longer-lived than Rs or Bs.)
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Jackk » December 22nd, 2012, 5:47 pm

If you've got a ruletable for this, could you please post it? it sounds very interesting.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » January 16th, 2013, 6:54 pm

Sure I do. Here's a quick fork from a general "for toying around with non-totalicity" ruletable.
n_states:2
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:rotate4reflect

#B3
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1
0,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,1
0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1

#B4 from diagonals
0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1

#S0?
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

#S1?
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0
1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0

#S2?
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1

#S3?
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,1,0,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,1,0,1
1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,1,1
1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0,1
1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0,1
1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0,1
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1

#S4?
1,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,0
1,1,1,0,1,1,0,0,0,0
1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,0
1,1,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,0
1,1,1,0,1,0,0,0,1,0
1,1,1,0,0,1,1,0,0,0
1,1,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,0
1,1,1,0,0,1,0,0,1,0
1,1,1,0,0,0,1,1,0,0
1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0

#S5?
1,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,0,1,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,1,0,1,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,0
1,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,0
1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,1,0
1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,1,0
1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,1,0
1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0

#S6?
1,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,1,1,0,1,1,1,1,0
1,0,1,1,1,0,1,1,1,0
1,1,0,1,0,1,1,1,1,0
1,1,0,1,1,1,0,1,1,0

#S7?
1,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0
1,1,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0

#S8?
1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0


And a B and a C for the benefit of those who don't remember offhand what they look like:
x = 4, y = 3, rule = rotatingb
2bo$b3o$2obo!

x = 4, y = 3, rule = rotatingb
2bo$b3o$2o!


Other than these two it doesn't seem like a particularly divergent near-Life rule though. Traffic lights and honey farms develop as usual, and a decent amount of basic technology including some rakes/puffer engines, pentadecathlons & the Gosper gun etc. still work. (A MMS breeder creating century puffers is almost certainly possible, not sure if a cordership analogue would be as it's fairly dirty.)

Edit: yeah, here are two 12-cell breeders.
x = 33, y = 3, rule = rotatingb
2bo28bo$b3o26b3o$2o27b2o!

x = 43, y = 3, rule = rotatingb
2bo38bo$b3o36b3o$2o37b2o!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » January 25th, 2013, 9:32 pm

A small p10 oscillator I find somehow fascinating:
x = 4, y = 4, rule = B34/S46
b3o$3o$b3o$3o!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Lewis » January 26th, 2013, 12:54 pm

Various things in the rule B345/S27, which either stabilises fairly quickly or grows forever depending on the size and density of the starting seed:

c/6 orthogonal ship (occurs naturally occasionally):
x = 4, y = 6, rule = B345/S27
4o$2obo$ob2o$ob2o$2obo$4o!


c/21 and c/10 orthogonal ships (taken from http://fano.ics.uci.edu/ca/rules/b345s27/):
x = 10, y = 26, rule = B345/S27
6bobo$8bo$2bo3b2o$3o3bo$2bo3b2o$8bo$6bobo8$5bo$5b2o$5bobo$8bo$5bobobo$
5bo3bo$5bo3bo$5bobobo$8bo$5bobo$5b2o$5bo!


Various oscillators (many of which occur fairly frequently from random ash):
x = 200, y = 142, rule = B345/S27
obobo4bo6bo7b2o5b2o78bo$9bo5bo2bo4bo3bo4bo77b3o$4bo4bo5bo2bo3bob2obo3b
o$17b2o3bo3bo4b2o76bo3bo$obobo12bo6b2o65bobobo12b2o3b2o$107bo7bo$o90bo
3bo10b2o2b3o2b2o$32b2o70bo4bo3bo4bo$obobo18bo2bo7bo56bobobo7b2o4bo3bo
4b2o$8bobo6bo6b2o6bo71bo4bo3bo4bo64b4o$8bo2bo3bo2bo3bo4bo5bo61bo10b2o
2b3o2b2o64bobo2bobo$9bobo3bo2bo5b2o5bo75bo7bo67bo2bo$16bo6bo2bo5b2o57b
obobo12b2o3b2o41bobobo2bobobo13bobo2bobo$109bo3bo$160bo2bo13bobo10bobo
$110b3o$111bo44bobobo2bobobo8b4o10b4o$176bo16bo$156bo10bo8bo16bo$176b
4o10b4o$obobo151bobobo2bobobo$88bo2bobobo18b3o60bobo10bobo$4bo5b2o100b
2o2b2o$9bo2bo75bo2bo3bo4b2o9b2o4bo63bobo2bobo$obobo4bo2bo89b2o7bo2b2o
2bo64bo2bo$10b2o76bo2bo3bo4b2o9bo2b2o2bo62bobo2bobo$4bo97b2o8bo4b2o64b
4o$88bo2bo3bo16b2o2b2o$obobo108b3o$88bo2bobobo3$156bobobo2bobobo$117bo
58bo$o3bo17bo45bo19bo2bobobo24bo39bo2bo3bo7bo$21bobo4b4o5b2obo5b2o6b3o
12bo36b2o9bo3bo11bobo38b2o2bo$o3bo4bo5bo4bo3bo3bob3o3b2o8b2o5b2o2bo8bo
bo19bo6bo11bo8b2o3b2obo7b2o22bobobo2bobobo5b2obo$9b2o3b2o6bo5b4o4bo3bo
5b2o5bo3bo6b5o33bob3o8bo3bo11b2ob2o36bo2bob2o$obobo4b2o5bo3bo3bo5bo8b
2o5b2o8b2o6bobo21bo2bobobo6bo15b3o12b2o21bo6bo3bo8b2o$9bo11bobo12bob2o
6b2o5bob2o6bo38bob3o12bo3bo7bo2bo39bobo$4bo41b2o16bo23bo2bo15bo6bob2o
3b2o8bo2bo21bobobo2bobobo$106b2o9bo3bo10bo$4bo83bo2bobobo22bo$121bo2$
187b4o$186bo4bo$88bo2bo3bo9b3o78bo4bo$104bo3bo77bo4bo$obobo83bo2bo3bo
8bo2bo79b4o$104b2o$o10bobo6bobo65bo2bobobo7b2o$10bo3b2o2b2o3bo80b2o50b
obobo2bobobo$obobo6bo3bo2bo3bo65bo6bo8bo2bo71b3o14b3o$11bo3bo2bo3bo81b
o3bo51bo2bo3bo10bo3bo5b2o5bo3bo$4bo5bo3b2o2b2o3bo64bo6bo9b3o70bo3bo4bo
2bo4bo3bo$11bobo6bobo133bobobo2bobobo10bo3bo4bo2bo4bo3bo$obobo173bo3bo
5b2o5bo3bo$160bo2bo3bo11b3o14b3o$88bo2bobobo$156bobobo2bobobo$88bo2bo$
101b5o81b4o$88bo2bobobo90bo4bo$22b2o31b4o42b5o80bo4bo$obobo15bo4bo13b
2o14bo2bo29bo2bo3bo90bo4bo$22b2o13bo4bo11b2o2b2o127b4o$o10b2o5bo3b2o3b
o9bob2obo10bo2b2o2bo27bo2bobobo$9bo3bo8b2o10b5o2b5o5b3o2b2o2b3o$obobo
3bo2b2o4bob3o2b3obo5bo3bo2bo3bo5bo2b2o2b2o2bo$9b4o4bob3o2b3obo5bo3bo2b
o3bo5bo2b2o2b2o2bo$o3bo4b2o2bo8b2o10b5o2b5o5b3o2b2o2b3o25bo2bobobo$8bo
3bo5bo3b2o3bo9bob2obo10bo2b2o2bo41bobo$obobo4b2o11b2o13bo4bo11b2o2b2o
28bo2bo3bo5bo2bo$20bo4bo13b2o14bo2bo44bob2o$22b2o31b4o29bo2bobobo5b2ob
o$103bo2bo$88bo2bo3bo7bobo2$88bo2bobobo60bobobo2bobobo2$156bo10bo$24bo
bo152b3o$9b4ob4o70bo2bobobo60bobobo6bo10bo3bo4b2o$9bo2b3o2bo6b3obo149b
o3bo6bo$9bo2b3o2bo8bo61bo2bo3bo6b4o54bo6bo10bo3bo6bo$9b4ob4o9b2obo70bo
4bo71bo3bo4b2o$28bo59bo2bobobo5bo4bo49bobobo6bo11b3o$28bobo70bo4bo$88b
o6bo6b4o2$88bo2bobobo2$obobo2$4bo7b2o$11bo$4bo5bo2bo$9bo$4bo4bobo167bo
bo$156bobobo2bobobo10bo2bo$4bo173b2o3b2o$160bo6bo15bobo$42b4o61b4ob4o
60b2o$40bob4obo59bo2b3o2bo44bo2bobobo16b2o$43b2o39bobobo2bobobo11bo3bo
3bo60bobo$obobo36bob2obo57b4ob2ob2ob4o41bo2bo13b2o3b2o$23b2o16bo4bo41b
o2bo3bo8bo3b2o3b2o3bo61bo2bo$o3bo4b6o7b4o15bo4bo17b4o36bo2b2obobob2o2b
o41bo2bobobo12bobo$10b4o8b4o58bobobo2bo3bo8b2obobo3bobob2o$obobo4b6o5b
3o2b3o6bo8b2o8bo8bo6bo35b2o9b2o$20b3o2b3o8b3o10b3o10bo6bo14bo6bo3bo8b
2obobo3bobob2o$o3bo16b5o7b2o7bo2bo7b2o7bob4obo34bo2b2obobob2o2bo$33b4o
3bo2b2o2bo3b4o7bob4obo14bobobo2bobobo8bo3b2o3b2o3bo$obobo28b4o3bo2b2o
2bo3b4o7bo6bo34b4ob2ob2ob4o$33b2o7bo2bo7b2o7bo6bo37bo3bo3bo$36b3o10b3o
55bo2b3o2bo$34bo8b2o8bo10b4o39b4ob4o2$22bobo16bo4bo$11b2o8bo2bo16bo4bo
$9bo4bo5bo4bo15bob2obo$9bob2obo11b2o15b2o$9b2o2b2o5b2o18bob4obo$10bo2b
o8bo4bo14b4o107bobobo2bobobo$8b3o2b3o7bo2bo$23bobo131bo2bo14b3o16b3o$
83bobobo2bobobo79bo3bo5bo2bo5bo3bo$106bo50bo2bobobo9bo3bo5bo2bo5bo3bo$
87bo6bo10b3o66bo3bo5bo2bo5bo3bo$46bo61bo48bo2bo3bo9bo3bo5bo2bo5bo3bo$
47bo35bobobo2bobobo8bo2bob2o65b3o16b3o$43b5o54b2obo2bo48bo2bobobo$10b
2o2b2o11bob2obo10bo2bob2o33bo6bo12bo$9bobo2bobo8bo8bo6b2o6bo54b3o$7bo
4b2o4bo7bo2b2o2bo6bob2ob2o2bo33bobobo2bobobo10bo$8bob2o2b2obo9b2o2b2o
9bo2b2ob2obo$8bob2o2b2obo9b2o2b2o9bo6b2o$7bo4b2o4bo7bo2b2o2bo8b2obo2bo
$9bobo2bobo8bo8bo9b5o$10b2o2b2o11bob2obo11bo$45bo!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » January 27th, 2013, 6:13 am

Here's an interesting reaction involving the c/8 glider from 2×2 and similar rules:
x = 6, y = 4, rule = B36/S125
2o3bo$3b2o$o$bobo!


One extra cell added near the tail ends up "unreflecting" the glider over its half-period. If this could be repeated (by means of a suitable tagalong) this would make a c/4 orthogonal spaceship.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Tropylium » March 16th, 2013, 5:00 pm

B2/S356 Generations rules turn out to have a *tiny* natural gun:
x = 4, y = 4, rule = 356/2/4
4C$4A$4A$4C!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Pteriforever » April 22nd, 2013, 2:55 am

I was using a program to generate ruletables for jelly-like rules which alternate between a B2 and a B3 rule each generation, and the alarmingly simple rule

B3/S1 <--> B2/S

contains an extremely bizarre object; it's a replicator, except it produces spaceships in addition to copies of itself.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby EricG » April 22nd, 2013, 12:15 pm

Pteriforever,

Nice find! I've seen similar gun/replicators in other rules, but they've had to be constructed. For example, you might be interested in comparing and constrasting your find with the following pattern, in which two ordinary replicators are placed side by side to generate spaceships. It is your call to say whether these two patterns are interestingly different from each other or not!

x = 15, y = 18, rule = Ben's-Rule-99
12bo$10bobobo$10b2ob2o$3bo7bobo$bobobo$b2ob2o$2bobo$3bo$2b3o$o2bo2bo$o
bobobo$o2bo2bo$2b3o$3bo$2bobo$b2ob2o$bobobo$3bo!

Ben's-Rule-99 is in this collection: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=935 But for everyone's convenience, here is a ruletree for B3/S1 + B2_S, and below that, a ruletree for Ben's-Rule_99

B3_S1+B2_S.tree
num_states=3
num_neighbors=8
num_nodes=54
1 0 0 0
1 0 2 0
2 0 1 1
2 1 0 0
1 1 0 0
2 1 0 4
3 2 3 5
1 2 0 0
2 0 7 7
2 0 7 0
3 3 8 9
2 4 0 0
3 5 9 11
4 6 10 12
2 7 0 0
3 8 14 14
2 0 0 0
3 9 14 16
4 10 15 17
3 11 16 16
4 12 17 19
5 13 18 20
3 14 16 16
4 15 22 22
3 16 16 16
4 17 22 24
5 18 23 25
4 19 24 24
5 20 25 27
6 21 26 28
4 22 24 24
5 23 30 30
4 24 24 24
5 25 30 32
6 26 31 33
5 27 32 32
6 28 33 35
7 29 34 36
5 30 32 32
6 31 38 38
5 32 32 32
6 33 38 40
7 34 39 41
6 35 40 40
7 36 41 43
8 37 42 44
6 38 40 40
7 39 46 46
6 40 40 40
7 41 46 48
8 42 47 49
7 43 48 48
8 44 49 51
9 45 50 52

Ben's-Rule-99.tree
num_states=2
num_neighbors=8
num_nodes=43
1 0 0
2 0 0
1 1 0
2 0 2
3 1 3
2 2 2
3 3 5
4 4 6
1 1 1
2 2 8
3 5 9
4 6 10
5 7 11
1 0 1
2 13 13
2 13 0
3 14 15
2 0 8
3 15 17
4 16 18
2 8 0
3 17 20
4 18 21
5 19 22
6 12 23
3 9 20
3 20 1
4 25 26
3 1 1
4 26 28
5 27 29
6 23 30
7 24 31
4 28 28
5 29 33
6 30 34
7 31 35
8 32 36
5 33 33
6 34 38
7 35 39
8 36 40
9 37 41
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Pteriforever » April 24th, 2013, 3:37 am

And to take the weirdness one step higher:

n_states:3
neighborhood:Moore
symmetries:permute
var a={1,2}
var b={1,2}
var c={1,2}
var d={1,2}
var e={1,2}
var f={1,2}
var g={1,2}
var h={1,2}
var s={0,1,2}
var t={0,1,2}
var u={0,1,2}
var v={0,1,2}
var w={0,1,2}
var x={0,1,2}
var y={0,1,2}
var z={0,1,2}
0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,2
0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,2
0,1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,2
0,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
1,1,1,1,0,0,0,0,0,2
1,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2
0,2,2,0,0,0,0,0,0,1
2,2,2,2,2,2,0,0,0,1
1,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,0
2,s,t,u,v,w,x,y,z,0


(Sry for the hugely inefficient table, I got a program to make it for me)

#CXRLE Pos=-4,-9
x = 6, y = 7, rule = b3478_s13+b2_s5
4.B$5.B$B$B4.B$5.B$B$.B!


I could not believe what I was looking at when I saw this.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby EricG » April 24th, 2013, 5:02 am

:shock: That was awesome.

Sometimes, if you look in related rules, you can find failed replicators which turn into spaceships. You might find a proper oblique ship that way.

On the general subject of alternating between two lifelike rules, there is a thread for that subject:
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=719&p=5588&hilit=alternating+rules#p5588

I'll post one of my favorite alternating rules there.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby BartekChom » April 27th, 2013, 12:23 pm

Tropylium wrote:B2/S356 Generations rules turn out to have a *tiny* natural gun:

This breeder (I removed three cells) appeared during evolution of a random pattern
x = 43, y = 61, rule = 356/2/4
.C$2.B$.A.C$.B.B4.C$CAC2.2A$B2.BABAB$ACACA3C$.B$.ACAC$2.B.B$2.AC.A$3.
B.B$3.AC.C$4.B.B$4.ACA$5.B$5.AC32.AC$6.B32.2B$6.ACA.C.AC23.C2.CA$7.B.
B.B.B23.B.B.B$7.AC2A.C25.C.2AC$8.B33.B$8.ACA.2CB21.B2C.ACA$9.B.B.C23.
C.B.B$9.ACA4.C17.C4.ACA$10.B6.B15.B6.B$10.AC4.C17.C4.CA$11.B27.B$11.A
C2.2CBC13.CB2C2.CA$12.B25.B$12.ACAC19.CACA$13.B.B19.B.B$13.ACA19.ACA$
14.B21.B$14.AC19.CA$15.B9.C9.B$15.AC17.CA$16.B17.B$16.AC15.CA$17.B15.
B$17.ACA.A7.A.ACA$18.B.BAB5.BAB.B$18.AC.CAC3.CAC.CA$19.B.B2.ABA2.B.B$
19.AC.A2CB2CA.CA$20.B.B5.B.B$20.ACA2.C2.ACA$21.B7.B$21.AC5.CA$22.B5.B
$22.ACA.ACA$23.B.B.B$23.AC.CA$24.B.B$24.ACA$25.B$25.AC2.C$26.B2.B$26.
A2CA$27.2B$27.2A!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Pteriforever » May 7th, 2013, 3:19 am

I found this really pretty agar in B2/S45678:
x = 100, y = 100, rule = B2/S45678:T100,100
obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bob
o3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bob
o3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bo
bo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3b
obobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobo
bo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$
6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobob
obo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobob
obo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo
bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobo
bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bob
o3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bo
bobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobo
bo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo
3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobo
bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo
9bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobob
obo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9b
o9bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobob
o3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3b
o3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo
3bo$bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bo
bo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo
3bobo$obobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobo
bobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bo$bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3b
obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$obo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bob
o3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobob
obo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo3bobobobo$obo3bo3bobo
3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo$bo
9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$6bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo9bo$bo3bobo3bo
3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo3bo3bobo!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Sphenocorona » May 24th, 2013, 8:09 pm

I found that this simple 4x4 naturally occuring spaceship in B0125/S015 and a few related rules:

x = 4, y = 4, rule = B0125/S015
b3o$o2bo$3bo$bo!

I was suprised to find that it doesn't have a page on the glider database at http://fano.ics.uci.edu/ca/rules/b0125s5/. I don't know why it isn't there, because it is not a trivial change to any of the spaceships known for that set of rules, and it also it the smallest glide reflective spaceship in that rule. It also appears from random soups. I just ran a 50x50 soup to check that, and sure enough at generation 2232 this spaceship appeared.
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Alex3627ca » June 10th, 2013, 8:02 pm

Found a really weird highlife-specific oscillator...

I don't really think I need to post it - simply run Golly's 'lightspeed telegraph' pattern in highlife, and eventually the thing will appear in the 'receiving' end of the pattern.

If I do, here:

x = 6, y = 7, rule = B36/S23
3b2o$2bo2bo$3b2o$2b2o$b2o$o2bo$b2o!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Sphenocorona » June 10th, 2013, 8:56 pm

That reminded me of an odd HighLife p10 oscillator I found that is, interestingly, a decamino in two phases (both the same shape though, as it reflects itself back and forth):
x = 2, y = 6, rule = B36/S23
2o$2o$o$2o$o$2o!


EDIT: I found this extensible oscillator:
x = 9, y = 14, rule = B36/S23
6b3o2$6b3o$7bo$3o4bo$7bo$3o3b3o$bo$bo4b3o$bo$6b3o$7bo$7bo$7bo!
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Re: Thread for Your Accidental Discoveries that Aren't in CGOL

Postby Extrementhusiast » June 13th, 2013, 4:28 pm

In SansDomino S13, the basic spaceship is extensible in both directions!
x = 35, y = 34, rule = sansdomino_s13
o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo
3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$
b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o
2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o3$o3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo3bo$b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b2o2b
2o2b2o2b2o!


And no, this isn't a pseudo-spaceship.
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