A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » August 18th, 2018, 11:52 pm

I'm just wondering, why is there a 32nd state in nobili32 and hutton32 if you could just use the 27th/28? I mean, it's not like it doesn't have 2 perpendicular inputs and outputs.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by calcyman » August 19th, 2018, 12:14 pm

Redstoneboi wrote:I'm just wondering, why is there a 32nd state in nobili32 and hutton32 if you could just use the 27th/28? I mean, it's not like it doesn't have 2 perpendicular inputs and outputs.
You mean to replace the 'doubly-excited crossover' (31) with the 'confluent state in its final level of excitation' (27)? That would indeed work correctly (if I'm not mistaken) and reduce the state count to 31. I imagine the reason that's not been done is because overloading a single physical state to behave as multiple logical states (depending on context) often makes things difficult to reason about at the expense of slightly reducing the state count. Either way, you need 5 bits to represent each cell irrespective of whether the number of states is 32, 31 or 29 (or even 17).
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » August 20th, 2018, 7:28 am

Ah, thank you Calcyman.
also, i’m working on optimizing the replicator body and tape, might be able to get 1,500 ticks off of the final product. A more realistic goal would be 500, though.

currently reduced bounding box, construction recipe beginning and end are now different.
Next thing to optimize is the tape. good luck to me.

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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » August 25th, 2018, 7:06 am

I just wanna say good luck to whoever makes a compiler for this.

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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Hdjensofjfnen » August 25th, 2018, 3:32 pm

What have I done?

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x = 6, y = 7, rule = JvN29
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » August 25th, 2018, 7:08 pm

You’ve created a loop that creates an up STS, destroys it, and generates the sequence “1001 1001 1001 1001 10001” which causes the wire to move 4 times left, and 1 time up each cycle after the STS is destroyed.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » August 26th, 2018, 4:47 am

This may be worth posting, even after i edited the optimizations post. There are more ways to construct faster.
Anyway have a 4-rows-at-once construction.

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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » September 10th, 2018, 10:24 pm

calcyman wrote:I contemplated creating a variant of Nobili32 where confluent cells can't be created ex nihilo, but rather need to be collected as 'food particles' and positioned.
hmmm, seems like a nice concept: collecting food. I might be able to make an isotropic CA for that, in fact i already have some progress and it's already turing complete and probably construction universal too.

i'll be talking about such a rule in Sticky.

note: blocks can be created out of space, which i might either disable or leave it as is and make a machine that doesn't use exploits.
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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by fluffykitty » September 11th, 2018, 8:27 pm

Redstoneboi wrote:FINISHED REPLICATOR!!!
The pattern at generation 45 is exactly the same one as the new pattern at generation 221,738, therefore making the period 221,693, more than TWICE as fast as the previous completed replicator.
Anyone up to top that? :wink:

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I didn't expect this to be able to get that fast! A spaceship using these methods would probably be possible, but it would require a lot of work and I don't have the motivation.

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Re: A 1.4 million tick JvN29 replicator

Post by Redstoneboi » September 22nd, 2018, 4:36 am

Progress on the new Optimum Replicator.
The stuff on the right are what I use to construct certain cells or combinations of cells.

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x = 2021, y = 88, rule = JvN29
1793.pA.2O2K4O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$1793.J.2O2KO3KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$
1793.L.2O2KOKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$1793.K.2O2KO2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$
1793.I.2O2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$1793.R.2O2K2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$
1793.T.2O2K3O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$1793.S.2O2K2OKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$
1793.Q.2O2KOK2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OKO$1795.O2KOKOK5OK3OKO15$1651.pA.2O2K
4O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO12.pA.2O2K4O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2O
K3OKO3K5OK5OKO10.pA.2O2K4O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.J.2O2KO3K
O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO11.J.2O2KO3KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2O
K3OKO3K5OK5OKO9.J.2O2KO3KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.L.2O2KOKO
3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO13.L.2O2KOKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK
3OKO3K5OK5OKO11.L.2O2KOKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.K.2O2KO2KO
3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO12.K.2O2KO2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK
3OKO3K5OK5OKO10.K.2O2KO2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.I.2O2KO3K
5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO15.I.2O2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO
3K5OK5OKO13.I.2O2KO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.R.2O2K2O3K5OKO2K
OKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO14.R.2O2K2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO3K5OK
5OKO12.R.2O2K2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.T.2O2K3O3K5OKO2KOKOK
5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO13.T.2O2K3O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO3K5OK5OKO
11.T.2O2K3O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.S.2O2K2OKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5O
K3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO12.S.2O2K2OKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO3K5OK5OKO
10.S.2O2K2OKO3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1651.Q.2O2KOK2O3K5OKO2KOKOK
5OK3OK2OK3OKOKOK5OK5OKO12.Q.2O2KOK2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO3K5OK5OK
O10.Q.2O2KOK2O3K5OKO2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK$1653.O2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKOK
OK5OK5OKO31.O2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3OKO3K5OK5OKO29.O2KOKOK5OK3OK2OK3O5K5OK3$
1796.pA.OK2OK4O3K5OK$1796.J.OK3O3KO3K5OK$1796.L.OK3OKO3K5OK$1796.K.OK
3O2KO3K5OK$1796.I.OK3O3K5OK$1796.R.OK4O3K5OK$1796.T.OK2OK3O3K5OK46.2I
$1796.S.OK4OKO3K5OK46.JLpA$1796.Q.OK3OK2O3K5OK44.2IJ.pA$1859.J2IL$
1859.J$1860.pAIpAIpAIpA2.IpAIpA2I2J$1726.pA.OK2OK4O5K5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5O
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3KO3KOK5OK5OKO27.L.OK3OKO5K5OKO3KO5K5OK28.2JLK.QJ8KLJ$1726.K.OK3O2KO
5K5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5OKO26.K.OK3O2KO5K5OKO3KO5K5OK$1726.I.OK3O5K5OKO3KO3K
OK5OK5OKO29.I.OK3O5K5OKO3KO5K5OK30.2JLJ.RpAKpAKL3KJ2pA$1726.R.OK4O5K
5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5OKO28.R.OK4O5K5OKO3KO5K5OK29.pA.KpA3K2.J.L.pAIpAJ$
1726.T.OK2OK3O5K5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5OKO26.T.OK2OK3O5K5OKO3KO5K5OK27.J5.IpA
LJ2KJ.JpAK$1726.S.OK4OKO5K5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5OKO26.S.OK4OKO5K5OKO3KO5K5OK
26.IJ4.IpAL3I.pA3IpA$1726.Q.OK3OK2O5K5OKO3KO3KOK5OK5OKO26.Q.OK3OK2O5K
5OKO3KO5K5OK26.J$1728.O3KO3KOK5OK5OKO47.O3KO5K5OK46.2IL.I2J2IL2RL.QR$
1859.JpAIpAIpAIpA2.LRpAK.R$1859.IJ.2IJ4.ILI2.pA$1859.pA.SpA$1723.pA.
3OK4OKO3K5OK5OKO42.pA.3OK4O5K5OK45.J$1723.J.3OKO3KOKO3K5OK5OKO41.J.3O
KO3KO5K5OK$1723.L.3OKOKOKO3K5OK5OKO43.L.3OKOKO5K5OK$1723.K.3OKO2KOKO
3K5OK5OKO42.K.3OKO2KO5K5OK$1723.I.3OKOKO3K5OK5OKO45.I.3OKO5K5OK$1723.
R.3OK2OKO3K5OK5OKO44.R.3OK2O5K5OK$1723.T.3OK3OKO3K5OK5OKO43.T.3OK3O5K
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5OKO42.Q.3OKOK2O5K5OK$2.2IpA3IL2.IpA3IpA.Q$2.JLpA3KIpA.pA.2IL2IpA$2IJ
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2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2K2O2KOK2OK3OK3OK3O
K3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK3OK5OK5OK5OK5OK5OKO3KO3KO3KO
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3O5K5OK!
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