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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Saka » March 27th, 2016, 3:51 am

drc wrote:
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » April 5th, 2016, 9:23 pm

Largest natural sparker (at least I think so):

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp3 ... 1/b37s23-c

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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby velcrorex » April 10th, 2016, 11:36 pm

A p 73 oscillator in B38/S238
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp7 ... 11/b38s238
x = 31, y = 31, rule = B38/S238
12b2o3b2o$2b2o9bo3bo9b2o$bo2bo7b2o3b2o7bo2bo$bo2bo6bobo3bobo6bo2bo$2b
2o7b3o3b3o7b2o7$3b2o21b2o$obobo21bobobo$5o21b5o4$5o21b5o$obobo21bobobo
$3b2o21b2o7$2b2o7b3o3b3o7b2o$bo2bo6bobo3bobo6bo2bo$bo2bo7b2o3b2o7bo2bo
$2b2o9bo3bo9b2o$12b2o3b2o!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Apple Bottom » April 11th, 2016, 7:57 am

velcrorex wrote:A p 73 oscillator in B38/S238
http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp7 ... 11/b38s238


Neat! Reminds me of Beluchenko's p51.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Bullet51 » April 16th, 2016, 3:42 am

drc wrote:Largest natural sparker (at least I think so):

http://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xp3 ... 1/b37s23-c

Evolves from twin bees


A larger one (not on Catagolue):
x = 24, y = 5, rule = B34-a5an6i_S23-njr8
8bo6bo$7b3o4bobo6bo$3o3b2ob2o2bo3bo5bo$7b3o4bobo6bo$8bo6bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Apple Bottom » April 17th, 2016, 6:08 am

Period-800 spaceship in B367/S3567, xq800_27u6u2voz2733363:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B367/S3567
obooobbboobobobo$
ooboobobbboobobo$
oooobbobboobbbbb$
obooooboobooboob$
bboboobobobobobo$
oobbooboobbbbbbb$
bbboooooobbboooo$
bbboobooobobooob$
boobbbbbbbbboooo$
bobbbbbbbbobbbob$
bbobbooobboobobo$
bbooboobbboobobo$
oobbbobboobboboo$
boobbboobbbboooo$
boooooobbobboboo$
bobbooobooboobbo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby shouldsee » April 25th, 2016, 2:33 am

Strictly saying what is searched isn't a soup of random cells but a soup of random combinations of
3bo$2b4o$b9o$6ob2ob2o$b9o$2b4o$3bo!
under flashbf8df8. But here are the puffers_seed1.
Also a 8c/36 spaceship constructed.
x = 318, y = 90, rule = flashbf8df8
44.A$43.A.A35.2A$19.A17.2A3.2A.2A16.A$18.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A13.A2.A15.A2.
A$17.9A.4A3.A3.4A5.2A11.A2.B.A13.A.B.A$16.6A.2A.3A2.A2.A4.3A2.B.B2.A
12.2B.A34.A17.A15.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A$17.
9A.4A3.A3.4A5.2A10.A.3B.A13.A5.A13.A3.A13.A3.A12.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.
2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A$18.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A14.B17.A2.B15.A.B15.A.B
$19.A17.2A3.2A.2A13.A3.A16.A2.B.A15.B.A188.3A$43.A.A16.A21.B.A13.A3.A
13.A2.A173.A$83.A.A17.A190.A$84.A2$83.A$43.A.A36.A.A$19.A17.2A3.2A.2A
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A2.A4.3A2.B.B2.A8.A4.A2.A7.2A7.3A6.2A8.A2.A14.3A145.A$17.9A.4A3.A3.4A
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3A$186.A5$28.A$27.A.A16.A182.A$3.A17.2A3.2A.2A11.4A.A110.3A69.A$2.4A
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27.A.A12.A.2A.2A14.2A66.3A123.A$26.2A.2A11.A.2A.A.A83.A121.3A$26.2A.
2A11.A2.A2.3A9.2A2.A67.A$27.A.A13.2A3.2A15.A$27.A.A35.2A$27.A.A14.A
21.2A21.A$3.A17.2A3.2A.2A15.A15.2A.A2.A20.A$2.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A10.3A.2A
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A2.A4.3A2.B.B2.A8.A4.A2.A7.2A7.3A6.2A8.A2.A14.3A177.A$.9A.4A3.A3.4A5.
2A11.A2.A2.A6.A2.A6.A7.A2.A7.2A18.A175.3A$2.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A12.A.A.3A
7.2A6.3A7.2A9.A17.A$3.A17.2A3.2A.2A14.A2.2A16.2A20.A$27.A.A36.A.A$67.
A2$68.A$67.A.A17.A222.A$27.A.A16.A21.B.A13.A3.A13.A2.A205.A$3.A17.2A
3.2A.2A13.A3.A16.A2.B.A15.B.A220.3A$2.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A14.B17.A2.B15.A.
B15.A.B$.9A.4A3.A3.4A5.2A10.A.3B.A13.A5.A13.A3.A13.A3.A12.2A16.2A16.
2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A$6A.2A.3A2.A2.A4.3A2.B
.B2.A12.2B.A34.A17.A15.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.2A16.
2A16.2A16.2A$.9A.4A3.A3.4A5.2A11.A2.B.A13.A.B.A$2.4A13.A3.A4.B2.A13.A
2.A15.A2.A$3.A17.2A3.2A.2A16.A$27.A.A35.2A$28.A!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby dsmiller » April 26th, 2016, 2:37 pm

A new oblique spaceship has appeared in a C1 soup for the rule B38/S23.
It travels at a rate of (5,2)c/190 and has a minimum population of 33 cells.

x = 28, y = 40, rule = B38/S23
26b2o$26b2o5$21b3o$21bo$21b2obo$23b2o9$13bobo$13bo2bo$13bobo2$12bo$5bo
7bo$3bobo6bo$3b3o12$b2o$obo$bo!


This appears to be a previously unknown ship (at least it doesn't appear in David Eppstein's database, nor on any of the topics in this forum). It exhibits an unusual boat-dragging behavior where it shifts a boat by a (5,2) offset and then the chaos reappears at the same offset. Unfortunately, it doesn't work in any of the closely related rules (like Standard Life), mostly because it requires the 'pedestrian' behavior of this rule (that TL predecessors tend to blow up).

The Catagolue page for this ship is here: https://catagolue.appspot.com/object/xq190_33y1g88gzy133433zyeskszzyjcmm8zyx352/b38s23
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Scorbie » April 26th, 2016, 2:55 pm

The ship is made of two R engines stabilizing each other. A single R is an unstable oblique H puffer, like Life's Switch engine. The front R's exhaust is eaten by the back R. The back R's exhaust is eaten by the boat. A single R with boat is unstable due to an inconvenient block, which is cleaned by the front R in this ship. This is really a miraculous natural contraption.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » April 26th, 2016, 3:31 pm

It's amazing. the soup:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B38/S23
obbbbbobbobobobo$
oooboboobbbobbbo$
bobboobobboobbob$
obobooobbbbboooo$
bbobobbobobbbobo$
oooobbobobbbbbob$
ooooboboooboobob$
oooobbooooboobob$
bbbbboboobbbobbb$
ooobbbbobbobobob$
boobobbooooooobo$
bobboobobbboooob$
oboooobbboooobbo$
oooobbboboobboob$
bbbbobboboooboob$
booboobbbbobooob!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby dsmiller » April 26th, 2016, 8:36 pm

The new ship is easy to synthesize in 8 gliders, since it is just two Rs and a boat. (In my first go at this I missed that the R + beehive just becomes another R). Here is one example:

x = 52, y = 71, rule = B38/S23
o$b2o$2o36$12bo$10bobo$11b2o10$50bo$49b2o$2o47bobo$b2o$o$26b3o$11b2o
13bo$10bobo14bo$12bo6$17bo$16bo$16b3o2$16bo$16b2o$15bobo!


I will post any further discoveries concerning this spaceship on the B38/S23 thread.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » May 6th, 2016, 4:18 pm

Will this be the first yl2 (actual period is 4)?:

x = 5, y = 4, rule = B3678/S024678
4bo$b4o$2b3o$o3bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » May 10th, 2016, 10:18 pm

p10 and p8 in B34t/S23:

x = 7, y = 15, rule = B34t_S23
3bo2bo$4o2bo$3bo2bo8$3o2$bobo2$2b3o!


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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby muzik » May 28th, 2016, 1:07 pm

Bit late wi this one, but here's a xp7:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S12
boobboooobobbboo$
bboboboobbbbboob$
oobbboobbbbooboo$
bbbbboobooobbobo$
ooobobbbobbobbob$
obooboobobbbbboo$
boobboobbobbobbb$
obbbooboobbobbbb$
oobbobbbbooobobo$
bobbobbobbbbbobo$
ooobbboobbbooboo$
obobbboooobbbobo$
oobbbobbooboooob$
bobboooobooboooo$
bobobobobbobbobb$
bobbbobobboboboo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » May 30th, 2016, 6:39 pm

854,454 gen ZZ_EXPLOSIVE soup:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B3/S02456
2o5bo4bobo$2o2bob2obob3obo$6o2bob3obo$bo2bo3b5obo$2b3o5bob2o$2obobobo$
4b3obo4bo$4bo2bob2o3bo$o2b2o3bo4bobo$3ob2o4bo2b2o$3b2obob2obo3bo$2b2o
2b2obobo2b2o$4b3obo2b3obo$ob4ob2o3b3o$3o2b5obob3o$b2ob5o4bobo!


EDIT: Root cause is this 854,297 gen methuselah:

x = 4, y = 5, rule = B3/S02456
4o$b2o$b2o$b2o$b2o!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Apple Bottom » June 9th, 2016, 6:22 pm

Period-92 twin-bees shuttle variant in B3/S23-ce:

x = 3, y = 11, rule = B3/S23-ce
2o$obo$2bo$3o4$3o$2bo$obo$2o!


I love how no external stabilization is needed there.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » June 11th, 2016, 12:47 pm

B35_S12-ae3 has A LOT of gliders:
x = 107, y = 25, rule = B35_S12-ae3
o19b2obobo17bo21bo14bobobo15bobobo$2o19bo3bo14bo4bo19bo14b2o2b2o15bo2b
2o$3o17b2obobo14bo4bo20bo17b3o17b3o$bo38bo4bo19b3o17bo19bo$o42bo21b2o
17bo19bo$o59bob2obo18bo19bo$62bo$61bo13$2bo7bobo$2b2o8bo$2bo7bob3o$o
11bo2bo$o11b3o!

Among these, you may notice a goat emoticon, frankenstein emoticon, and :P
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby drc » June 16th, 2016, 3:45 pm

Seems like by exploring B578_S4567_N31 I've broken the page again... sorry!:
https://catagolue.appspot.com/census/b3-ce4-cejnry5es2-cn3-ce4cny5e/C1
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Rich Holmes » July 7th, 2016, 10:33 pm

Hot on the heels of Rich's p16, here's a p18. It even has a certain family resemblance (D2_+1 symmetry, shuttle behavior). But it's in B357/S23, not B3/S23.

x = 13, y = 5, rule = B357/S23
b2ob2ob2ob2ob$o4bobo4bo$5bobo5b$4bo3bo4b$3b3ob3o3b!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Bullet51 » July 8th, 2016, 8:45 am

drc wrote:B35_S12-ae3 has A LOT of gliders:
gliders

Among these, you may notice a goat emoticon, frankenstein emoticon, and :P


Even more:
x = 21, y = 21, rule = B35_S12-ae3
9bo$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$9bo2$2o$2o12bo$6b2o6bo4bo$6b2obo7bo2bo$6b2ob
2o6bo2bo$6b2obo7bo2bo$6b2o6bo4bo$2o12bo$2o2$9bo$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$6bo4bo$
9bo!

x = 7, y = 7, rule = B35_S12-ae3
obo$o2bo$bo$2bo2bo$3bo2bo$4bo$5b2o!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Rich Holmes » July 9th, 2016, 6:16 pm

never mind
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby simeks » July 9th, 2016, 6:35 pm

Rich Holmes wrote:(5,2)c/190 spaceship in B38/S23

Appearently the two parts can interact in several different ways - here is one:

x = 47, y = 19, rule = B38/S23
2o$2o9bo14bo$7b2obobo12bobo$7b2o2b2o11bobobo$25bobo$4b2o20bo$4bo$4bo5b
o$5bo2bob2o$6b3ob2o$8b2o$30bobo$30bo2bo$30bo2bo$31b2o$44b2o$44bobo$45b
o!

Edit: Didn't notice at first, but the two parts are actually two copies of the same engine.

Edit2: Ok, maybe this wasn't as new as we thought ;)
Still the glider rake is not exactly the same as this by AbhpzTa.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Rich Holmes » July 9th, 2016, 7:07 pm

I'd overlooked that other variants have been found already in C1 soups. On closer examination I think this is a different ship based on the same engine.
x = 53, y = 26, rule = B38/S23
5$29bo$3b2o24bo$3b2o9bo13bobo$10b2obobo13bo3bo$10b2o2b2o13bo3bo2$7b2o$
7bo$7bo5bo$8bo2bob2o$9b3ob2o19bo$11b2o21b2o$33bo2bo$34b2o$47b2o$47bobo
$48bo!


Edit:
This seems to be a predecessor to the engine.
x = 14, y = 10, rule = B38/S23
2$2b2o$2b2o2$8bob2o$7bo2bo$7bo!


Edit2:
Oh, right. I remember reading that thread back when it was posted. <facepalm>
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Rich Holmes » July 10th, 2016, 8:42 pm

In B358/S23 there's a natural 36c/72 puffer:

x = 37, y = 13, rule = B358/S23
2$16b2o$15bo2bo11bo$14b2ob2o8b3obo$4bo11bo4b2o3b3o2b2o$3bobo14b3o2b2ob
4o$3bobo4b2o9bo3bo2b3o$4bo5b2o!


I don't know who first got this (or if it was known previously). It's turned up 6 times in C1. It works also in B35/S23 but apparently hasn't evolved there so far.

One can combine two of these puffers in various ways to make spaceships. Here are six. There undoubtedly are many others.

x = 388, y = 189, rule = B358/S23
12$61bo$35b2o9bo13b4o264bo3bo38bo$34bobo11b2o10b2ob2o262bo2bo2bo14b4ob
o2bobo9b3obo$36bo8bo3bo7b2o5b2o147b3o131bo3bo2bobob2o7b3o2b2o$37bo11bo
6b4o3b2o148bo14b2o117bob3o5b2o7b2ob4o$26b2o8b3o10bo7b4o152bo4bo12b2o
90b2o3bobobo15bo7bobo2bo4bo2b3o$26b2o6b2o2bo7bobo9b3o138bobo12bo12b2ob
o2bo89b2o3bo3bo20bobo4bo$33b2ob2obo7bo151bobo14bo2bo4bo3bob2obo95bobo
12b2o12b3o$35b2o2bo175b2o2bo4bo3bo2b3o96bo3b3o6bo14bo$40bo165b2o6bo4bo
4bo119b2o$39bo159bobo4b2o6bo4b2o4bo2bo102b3o$35bo163bobo13bo4bo6bo102b
o2bo$35b3o178bo113bo$217bo112b4o$206b3o123b2o31bo$59bo146bo14b2o107b2o
31bo2bo$33b2o9bo13b4o111bo32bo4bo12b2o104b2o3bo26bo$32bobo11b2o10b2ob
2o108bobo33bo12b2obo2bo108bo11b2o2b2o3b2o8bo2b3o$34bo8bo3bo7b2o5b2o
106bo38bo2bo4bo3bob2obo104b2o2bo10bobob3o2b3o8bob2obo$35bo11bo6b4o3b2o
108b3o34b2o2bo4bo3bo2b3o98b3o3b2ob2o10b3o2bobo5bo2bo2b2obo2bo$24b2o8b
3o10bo7b4o112bob2o32bo4bo4bo104b2o2bo2bo2b3o17b3ob3o2bo7b2o$24b2o6b2o
2bo7bobo9b3o113b2o33bo4b2o4bo2bo100b2o3b2obob2o19b2o3b2o6b2o$31b2ob2ob
o7bo126b2o34bo4bo6bo122bo12b3o$33b2o2bo171bo119bobo11b2o$38bo134b2o35b
o119bo12b2o$37bo137bo156b2o$33bo297b4o$33b3o295b4o$333bo102$22bo3bo38b
o$21bo2bo2bo14b4obo2bobo9b3obo$41bo3bo2bobob2o7b3o2b2o251b3o52b2o$41bo
b3o5b2o7b2ob4o139b2o108bob2o57b2o$17b2o3bobobo15bo7bobo2bo4bo2b3o106bo
34bob2o9bo6b3o85b3obobo29b5o8bobo6b2obo2bo$17b2o3bo3bo20bobo4bo116b2o
34bob2o8b2o4bo2bob2o83b2o3bo29bob2ob2o7b2obo2bo3bob2obo$23bobo12b2o12b
3o115b4o5b3o26b3o3b2o4bo3bo6bo121b2o10bob2obo3bo2b3o$24bo12bo14bo119bo
3bo2b3o32b2o2b3o3bo6bo112b2o20bobobo$38b2o125b2o4b2o3bo3bo20b2o10b3o3b
2o3b4o2bo113b2o7bo12b2o3bo2bo$26bo3b2o133b2o3bobo3bo24b2o10bo5bo8bo
123bo20bo$26bo4b2o136bo39bobo138b5o$26bo149bo32b3o137b3o$66bo101bo3bob
3o33bo138b3o2bobo$28b2o34bo2bo99b2o180b3o3bobo$63bo103bob2o178b2o5bo$
48b2o2b2o3b2o8bo2b3o95b2o4b3o173b2o$31b2o14bobob3o2b3o8bob2obo104b2o
32b2o160bo$30bo2bo13b3o2bobo5bo2bo2b2obo2bo99bo4b2o30b5o13bo123b2o9b3o
4b4o2bo$23b2o3bobo2bo19b3ob3o2bo7b2o99bobo3b2o30b2ob2o11bo2bo131b2o7bo
6bo$23b2o3b5o21b2o3b2o6b2o105bo2bo32b2o2bo9bo127b7obo5b2obo6bo$44bo12b
3o110bo3bo2bo34b5o6bo4bo2b3o118b5o2b5o6bo2bob2o$44b2o123b3obo39bob3o3b
2o5bob2obo110b2o6bo12bobo4b3o$44b2o123b3o42bo2b2o2b2obo2b2obo2bo110b2o
12bo7bo$33b2o169b2o9b2o5b2o7b2o119b2o$32b4o168b2o8b2ob2o9b2o121b2obo$
32b4o176b3o137bobo$34bo178bo139bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Apple Bottom » July 11th, 2016, 5:26 am

Rich Holmes wrote:I don't know who first got this (or if it was known previously).


First haul to contain it appears to be this, submitted in late April last year by Josh Ball.
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