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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby 2718281828 » June 10th, 2019, 4:47 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:Now that's a nice rule

Yes, not too bad, still, the x (I mean the +) in indestructible. However, adding B7c makes it destructible (even in a slow salvo):
x = 16, y = 50, rule = B2an3ekr4i7c/S1c2ci3iqy4-a5678
10$11bo$10b3o$11bo6$13b2o2$14bo11$8b2o2$9bo!

while preserving most of the properties, esp. the min repeat 7/8 reflector and a small splitter (min. repeat 28):
x = 64, y = 75, rule = B2an3ekr4i7c/S1c2ci3iqy4-a5678
25$26bo11bo13bo$25b3o9b3o11b3o$24bobo9bobo11bobo6$23b2o11b2o17b2o2$24b
o12bo18bo5$36b2o$23b2o$37bo$24bo18$55b2o2$56bo!


For illustration purpose, all guns (p>6) up to p32 work in this rule as well:
x = 46, y = 387, rule = B2an3ekr4i7c/S1c2ci3iqy4-a5678
3$22bo2bo2bo$21b9o$22bo2bo2bo$22bo$21b3ob2o$22bo3$24bobo$23b3o$24bo4$
26bo$25b3o$26bobo2$22bobo$21b3obo$22bobo4$24bo$23b3o$24bobobo$23b2o2b
3o$24bo3bo$24bo2$23bo$21bobo$20b3o$21bo4$23bobo$24b3o$25bo$25b2o4$24bo
bo$23b3o$24bo4$23bo2bo$22b6o$21bobo2bo$25b2o$23bo2$23bo$24bobo$23b3o$
24bo$20bo$19b3o$20bo3$23bobo$24bo$21bobo$20b3obo$21bo4$25bo$24b3o$25bo
$25b2o3$25bo$22bobo$23b3o$24bo3bo$27b3o$28bo2$25bo$24b3o$25bo$22bo3bo$
21b3o$22bo3bo$23bobo3$25bo$24b3o$25bo4$24bo$25bo2bo$24b5o$25bo$21bobo
2bobo2bo$20bob3obo2b4o$21bobo7bo$25bo2bo3$27bobo$26b5o$27bobo$26bo$23b
obo$22b4o$23bo3$21bo2bo$20b6o$21bo2bobo$21bo2bo5bo$20b5o4b3o$21bo2bo5b
o2$24b2o2$22bobo$21b3o$22bo3$26bo$25b3o$19bo4bobo$18b3o$19bo6b2o3$23bo
$24bobo$23b3o$24bo3$22bo2bo$21b6o$16bo3bobo2bo$15b3o5bobo$16bo7b3o$23b
obo4$21bo$21bobo$21bobo$22bo3$20bo$19b3o$20bo6bo$26b3o$27bo$27b2o6$24b
obobo$23b5o$24bobo6$14bobo4bobo$13b4o6bo$12b3o$13b2o3b2o$12b4ob2o$13bo
2bo5bo$15b3o3b3o$16bo5bo6$20bobobo$18bo2b3o$19b5o$18b2o2bobo$19b3o$18b
obo$23bo$21bobo2$19b2o$21bo$20bo$19b3o$20bo$21bo5$21bo$20b3o$17bo3bo$
16bo3b3o$9bo5b3o$8b3o5bo4bobo$7b3o7bo5bo$6b3o7bobo$7bo9bo$19bobo$8bo9b
3obo$7b3o9bobo$8bo3$13bo$14bo5bobo$19bob3o$20bobo2$16bobo2bobo$15b3o5b
o$14bobo2bo3$18bo$17b3o$18bo5$21bobo$16bo6bo$12bobo3bobobo$13b3o6bo$
14bobo4b3o$22bo$21bo3$23bo$22b3o$23bo$23bo2$12bobo6bobo$11b3obo3bo3bo$
12bo2bo3bo2$23bo$22b3o$23bo6$21bo2bo$20b6o$21bo2bobo3$18bo2bobo$17b3o
3bo$18bobo2$24bo$23b3o$24bo5$16bobobo$15b7o$16bobobo4$17bo3bobo$23bo2$
16b3o$17bobo5bo$15bo4bo3b3o$14b3o3bo4bo$15bo2bobo$18bo$17b3o$18bo4$23b
o2bo$21bo2b2o2bo$19bo2b6o$18b6ob3o$19bo2bo3b2o$19bo2b2ob3o$19bo6b2o$
19bo5b3o$19bo6b2o$19bo6b3o$19bo5bobo$19bo$19bo$19bobobo$19bo3bo$18b3o$
19bo6$19bo$18b3o$19bo$18bo$19b2o3$21bobo$23bo$17bobobo$18b3o$19bo4$22b
o$21bobo$22bo$15bo5b3o$14b3obo3bo$15bobo2$21bobo$17bobo3bo$16b5o$17bob
o5$20bo$19bo$18b3o$17bob3o$20bo$17bo$16b3o2bobo$15bobo5bo3$18bob2o3bob
o$13bo4bo7b3o$12b3o5bo2bobobo$13bo$21b2o$14bo11bo$13b15o$14bo11bo!

Edit1:extended gun list to p32.

Edit2:
A fancy p109:
x = 22, y = 22, rule = B2an3ekr4i7c/S1c2ci3iqy4-a5678
bo18bo$ob18obo$bo18bo$bo18bo$bo11bo6bo$bo10b3o5bo$bo11bo6bo$bo12bo5bo$bo18bo$
bo10b2o6bo$bo18bo$bo16bobo$bo15bo2bo$bo14b3obo$bo15bo2bo$bo18bo$bo18bo$bo18bo
$bo18bo$bo18bo$ob18obo$bo18bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby 2718281828 » June 11th, 2019, 7:24 pm

A gun principle that works for arbitrary large ships. Here a p31 version:
x = 81, y = 55, rule = B2an3ekr4i7c/S1c2ci3iqy4-a5678
7$64bo$63b3o$64bo4bo$52bo10bo4b3o$51bo12bo4bo$68b3o$69bo$61bobobo2bo$
60bob3o$61bobo2$bo$3o51bobo$bobo13bo36bo13bobo$15bobo51b3o$49b2o19bo$
75bo$8bobo39bo23b3o$7b3obo47bo13bobo$3bo2bobobo48bobo$2bo$b3o$2bo4bo
46bo11bobo$b3o4bo44bobo9bob3o$2bo4bo46bo11bobobo2bo$6b3o26bobobo13b3o
3bobo12bo$7bo26b7o13bo3b5o10b3o$35bobobo15bo5bo7bo4bo$68bo4b3o$69bo4bo
$49bo5bobobo8b3o$48bo7b5o8bo$47b3o7bobo$48bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby muzik » August 14th, 2019, 8:48 am

Massive natural block:

x = 16, y = 16, rule = B2c3aj4ajqrw5-cenr6-cn7e8/S01e2-ck3air4ainqrt5aci6a78
b3ob10o$bo6bob3obo$2o8b2ob2o$2ob5obo4b2o$obob11o$ob2o3b4ob2obo$ob2obob
2obo4bo$o2b3o3bobob2o$bob3o2b2o5bo$bo2bo2b2o3bo2bo$2b2o2bob2o3b2o$bo3b
2o2b2ob3o$2bobo2b2o2bob3o$o9b4obo$5o2b6o2bo$2ob3ob2obobo2bo!


Can anyone get anything bigger to show up?
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Moosey » August 14th, 2019, 3:32 pm

That rule is cool:
x = 103, y = 62, rule = B2c3aj4ajqrw5-cenr6-cn7e8/S01e2-ck3air4ainqrt5aci6a78
39b2o$39b2o2$44bo$42b2o3bo$41b6o3bo$40b10o3bo$39b14o3bo$38b18o3bo$37b
22o3bo$36b26o$21b49o$21b49o10$38b2o$38b2o2$43bo$41b2o3bo$40b6o4bo$39b
11o4bo$38b16o4bo$37b21o4bo$36b26o$21b49o11$44bo$42b2o3bo$41b6o3bo$40b
10o3bo$39b14o3bo$38b18o3bo$37b22o3bo$36b26o$21b49o$21b49o2$76bo$74b2o
3bo$73b6o4bo$72b11o4bo$71b16o4bo$20bo49b21o4bo$18b2o49b26o$103o!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby testitemqlstudop » August 15th, 2019, 8:11 am

Here's a variant of the top rule with a smaller reflector:

x = 81, y = 30, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3i4
bo$obo5$b2o2$2bo4$2o2$o5$74bo4bo$73bo4bobo$b2o$74b2o$bo$79bo$73bobo4bo
$74bo4bo$2o2$bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Moosey » August 15th, 2019, 5:12 pm

testitemqlstudop wrote:Here's a variant of the top rule with a smaller reflector:

x = 81, y = 30, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3i4
bo$obo5$b2o2$2bo4$2o2$o5$74bo4bo$73bo4bobo$b2o$74b2o$bo$79bo$73bobo4bo
$74bo4bo$2o2$bo!

that rule has nice tech-- but I like this relative better. Memcell thing:
x = 11, y = 17, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
bo$3o$bo2$5bo$4b3o$5bo$4bo$9bo$8b3o$9bo4$4b2o2$4bo!

Cool catalysis:
x = 10, y = 14, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
obo4bobo$bo6bo$o8bo$bo6bo$3o4b3o$bo6bo6$4b2o2$4bo!

Hey! You look familiar!
x = 4, y = 8, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
2o$2o4$2bo$3bo$2bo!

Almost-180° reflector:
x = 21, y = 31, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
bo17bo$obo17bo$19bo12$10bo$11bo6bobo$bo8bo8bo$o$bo10$6bobo$8bo2bobo$
12bo!

Simpler:
x = 9, y = 18, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
5bobo$4bo3bo$3bobobo13$obo$2bo2bobo$6bo!

Semisnark:
x = 5, y = 17, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o2$2o3$o2$2o8$4bo$3bo!


If there's a gun in this rule then there's an inverter:
x = 15, y = 38, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
2bo2$2b2o8$2bo2$2b2o15$2bo4bo$6bo$2b2o$12bobo$12bo2$2bobo$3bo$5bo$o3bo
$bo!

Though this would make more sense:
x = 28, y = 22, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
5bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo2bobo$5bo4bo4bo4bo4bo3$2o2$o3$2o2$o8$2o2$o!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » August 15th, 2019, 10:34 pm

Moosey wrote:Hey! You look familiar!
x = 4, y = 8, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
2o$2o4$2bo$3bo$2bo!

A wholesome variant:
x = 3, y = 8, rule = B2an3r4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
2o$2o4$2bo$bo$2bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Moosey » August 16th, 2019, 6:48 pm

we should probably move discussion of this rulespace to another thread.
Here's a relative preserving testitem's reflector and catalysts but also allowing the n-cell bar action:
x = 1, y = 21, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o$o!

Challenge: construct a counter and a counter counter/tetrational sawtooth
Small ships:
x = 11, y = 3, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
2bo7bo$obo6b2o$10bo!


Strange behavior:
x = 19, y = 4, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
17bo$o15bobo$o$o!

Gun:
x = 16, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
bo12bo$o12bobo$bo8bo$10bo$10bo!


It's adjustable, too-- in multiple ways:
x = 74, y = 17, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
71bo$72bo10$bo12bo$o12bobo$bo8bo$10bo$10bo62bo$72bo!



Almost high-period gun:
x = 134, y = 104, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
123bo$10bo113bo$10bo$bo8bo$o12bobo$bo12bo14$131bo$132bo10$61bo12bo$60b
o12bobo$61bo8bo$70bo$70bo62bo$132bo$45bo$46bo24$52b2o2$52bobo$59bobobo
3bobobo3bobo$59bobo5bobo5b3o6bo$75bobo$71bobo12bo$72bo12bo$52b2o2$52b
2o2$53bo4$52b2o2$52b2o2$53bo4$52b2o2$52b2o$50bo$49bo3bo$50bo3$51b3o4$
51bobo4$51bobo$49bobo$50bo!


Smallest version of gun:
x = 22, y = 12, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
19bo$20bo5$bo12bo$o12bobo$bo8bo$10bo$10bo10bo$20bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby testitemqlstudop » August 16th, 2019, 11:42 pm

Is this a record for smallest loggrow in terms of population? (predecessor, but yn
x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o3bo$o3bo$o3bo$12bo$11bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby fluffykitty » September 2nd, 2019, 5:24 pm

That's invalid because it uses an unbounded replicator, which has growth rate n^0.507 or something like that.
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby danny » September 3rd, 2019, 9:35 am

testitemqlstudop wrote:Is this a record for smallest loggrow in terms of population? (predecessor, but yn
x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o3bo$o3bo$o3bo$12bo$11bo!

Smaller version, 5 cells instead of 8:
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o$o$o$10bo$9bo!
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Re: Soup search results in rules other than Conway's Life

Postby Hdjensofjfnen » September 6th, 2019, 8:27 pm

danny wrote:
testitemqlstudop wrote:Is this a record for smallest loggrow in terms of population? (predecessor, but yn
x = 13, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o3bo$o3bo$o3bo$12bo$11bo!

Smaller version, 5 cells instead of 8:
x = 11, y = 5, rule = B2an3ir4ei/S1c2ci3ci4
o$o$o$10bo$9bo!

toroidalet found a 2-cell log-growth, I believe.
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